Anon is Indian | TheaterFire

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Violent_Paprika@reddit

What changed was poor indians getting phones and internet. India was cool and exotic when people were only exposed to rich Indians. Now people can see how poor Indians live and it's tragic and revolting.

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DrProfSrRyan@reddit

More vocal dislike of Indian people also seems to coincide with the countries they choose to immigrate to.

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An_Draoidh_Uaine@reddit

I live in a part of England where half the people living here are Indian.

I'd say two-thirds are very lovely, integrate well, and help run the community events.

The other third literally piss and shit in the streets, even though every house in England has a toilet.

So it's a mixed bag.

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DrProfSrRyan@reddit

Too mixed.

A 33% chance they are a street shitting degenerate is way too high.

At my most open, I’d accept 1%.

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Doppel2ganger@reddit

You'd accept 1% shitting in the streets?

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JPowTheDayTrader@reddit

If you live in San Francisco, you're already accepting more than 1%.

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DrProfSrRyan@reddit

At my most open, being as gracious as physically possible, giving as much benefit of the doubt to the person I was responding to.

In reality its zero.

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spikejonze14@reddit

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Devil-Eater24@reddit

I live in India and 1/3 of the population definitely doesn't shit in the streets. I think there is some sampling bias at play here, maybe people who shit in the streets are more likely to emigrate to the UK? (Assuming you're not just BSing)

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FalconRelevant@reddit

80% of India is rural that the English speaking middle class is almost zero contact with.

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hagamablabla@reddit

A few bad apples spoils the bunch unfortunately. People don't remember the immigrant they walked by on the street, they remember the one throwing a fit at the store.

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AustinDanger_Powers@reddit

If 1/3 of your apples are bad, you stop buying from that orchard.

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FalconRelevant@reddit

Selection bias tends to distort the perception of ratios. If you ignore 9 of of ten 10 people who aren't problematic and then see one who is, you'd think it was 50:50.

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DrProfSrRyan@reddit

Unless you don't ignore 9 of of 10 people and still decide that 5% problematic is still too many.

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W4FF13_G0D@reddit

You got a 30% chance of running into a MAGAt in America, and now they’re seen as the laughing stock of the world, so it definitely is enough to taint a good reputation

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-SandorClegane-@reddit

Americans didn't have a great rep to begin with, if we're being honest.

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LonelyPermit2306@reddit

That was previously out of jealousy, but now it's more out of jealousy and an inferiority-superiority complex. Like "these guys suck, why are they the most powerful country in the world!"

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SOFAthegreat@reddit

There is an interesting idea that racism comes from the fear of the "other", and that once you are regularly exposed to people from that culture they stop being scary and weird, and you begin to realize that they are human just like you. India and Indians however seem to show the reverse as true. Countries that have allowed mass Indian migration seem to be having alot of friction with the new arrivals

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FalconRelevant@reddit

Mass migration in general does that. There was friction with the Irish and Southern Italians back when they were fleeing en masse.

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ThatCactusOfficial@reddit

Once a developing country gets wealthy enough that immigration to developed countries is attainable to the general population and not just the rich, the opinion held about their diaspora by people from said developed countries tends to decline.

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DrProfSrRyan@reddit

I think it’s often that people hold little or neutral opinion until they do. So, it’s less that it sours, but that it hadn’t been developed yet.

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ThatCactusOfficial@reddit

I disagree. In my experience, people used to stereotype Indians as super smart the same way that east asians are stereotyped even as recently as a few years ago.

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DrProfSrRyan@reddit

I meant in general as in the case with the comment I was responding to.

When I was growing up, Indians were differentiated from other Asians, as two different groups because they had different stereotypes.

It was East Asians, or just Asians and South Asians or just Indians.

But, I will agree the opinions on Indians have gotten worse. Though it think there’s a distinction between first and second+ generation Indian immigrants.

I meant more people don’t currently have an opinion on, for example people from Chad, at least in particular separate from Africans, one way or another.

If people from Chad started immigrating in mass, people would start building an opinion of them.

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puff_of_fluff@reddit

Totally not more complicated than that

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DrProfSrRyan@reddit

I didn’t make any claim on the complexity of the cause, just a comment on the effect.

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JPowTheDayTrader@reddit

Nah that's not it. It's the rape culture and the national past time of outdoors defecation.

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Kallonistic@reddit

I don’t know how nerds have the energy to consume so much and chat non stop on Discord

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A_Stoned_Smurf@reddit

As opposed to doom scrolling TikTok, Instagram, Snapchat, Twitter, and chatting with everyone there like everyone else? I have multiple monitors, so I play games, chat with my friends and share memes in between painting minifigs, practicing guitar, and meeting up to play board games. Discord is just an easy way to talk with my buds halfway across the continent and world no matter the time zone.

Public servers are turbo cringe, but using it as a better group chat with your homies is the way to go.

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nEwBiEKC@reddit

How do you even find friends online?

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Lionheart8397@reddit

Could be gaming.

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Bazzyboss@reddit

I made a bunch of friends playing online games when I was younger, stuff like warband Napoleonic wars regiments. Similar to real life having regular social activities where you continuously do stuff with the same people breeds friendships.

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A_Stoned_Smurf@reddit

Mostly the same ones I've had since high school. A group of actual friends I know irl, and then some I've added from League (when I used to play), cool people you meet in Steam, etc. Those people have their own friends, so they invite them, and they have their own, and so on. Same way you'd normally make friends, the exact same principles apply; hang out in shared spaces, find someone that jives with you, then add them. I'm pretty content with my friend group so I mostly just accept requests at this point instead of going out of my way to add people.

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TestyBoy13@reddit

”Introverted”

”Chats online all day”

Anon is LARPing so hard

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Master_Tamma@reddit

Online text is a very low risk interaction.

• You only have to engage if you want to. Many lurkers online (like me)

• You have all the time you need to come up with a good response, structure a good sentence and check your grammar (low risk of embarrassment from failure to communicate)

• In big servers with lots of activity you can toss your opinion on the pile and sometimes that turns into a micro conversation.

• Highly specialised communities allow someone with a niche hobby to feel confident in his/her knowledge on the subject and speak freely.

Might be other reasons too but that's just off the top of my head.

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Hussor@reddit

The joys of unemployment

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Hanza-Malz@reddit

3 screens and it's all running at the same time.

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MenguecheTrolazo@reddit

They're scammers, shit on the streets, steal jobs from locals and then hire each other, bad immigrants, smell awful, view women as sex objects, play the victim and ask the government for money as compensation.

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Swimmydrowns@reddit

Garlic and onions with no deo

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DragonofArmageddon@reddit

Don't forget the horrible culture that makes you believe you're superior within your own people via the use of castes even though you've done/achieved nothing substantial.

Superiority based on an inferior religion.

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xXxNoSc0p3dYoUxXx@reddit

im against the caste system myself mate but you cant follow your completely valid argument with the words ‘superiority based on an inferior religion’ and show urself directly contradict ur own reasonable statement

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DragonofArmageddon@reddit

Any religion that teaches people to disrespect others is very much an inferior religion now granted that includes most religions which I would say the same for.

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-SandorClegane-@reddit

That's all religions. Any social architecture that allows for hierarchy is a problem.

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DragonofArmageddon@reddit

Yet that social hierarchy isn't ingrained as a part of any religion other than hinduism. The concept is so ingrained into the religion it's become part of the culture(chicken or egg situation with this part honestly but it was/has become deeply rooted in modern indian society) which makes them apply it to people outside their religion. Not hindu = low caste = automatically lesser than me. So their thought automatically drifts to "why must I listen or integrate with this person's culture who is below me and it doesn't help that the indian government propaganda keeps putting india on a platform as a "superpower" even though it's not while keeping the masses "improperly educated" which is why you sometimes see even people with PhD's still resort to that ignorant way of thinking.

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thatweirdguyted@reddit

Maybe two straight decades of scamming everyone with access to a phone or computer has made the rest if the world see India in a negative light?

Also there was that whole business of Indian "engineers" working abroad with no knowledge of local code requirements, resulting in some rather fucky builds.

Lately in my country the ones that have been coming over speak nothing but their original language. They live in their own isolated communities and have absolutely no interest in interacting with the locals. They practice caste discrimination despite it being illegal here. I could go on but that's probably enough.

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Stable_Immediate@reddit

Canada?

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thatweirdguyted@reddit

Yes

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FalconRelevant@reddit

Canada was being opportunistic, thinking they could get tap into the brain drain that US was benefiting from.

Your policymakers, however, forgot to actually give businesses a reason to be there. When you make things really easy for labor yet ignore businesses, the quality of labor than enters and stays will be low.

The tech giants that have offices in Canada that employ Indian immigrants only do so to give those who lost the H1B lottery a few months to transfer their skills to their replacements in the US before firing them or transferring them to the offices in India (or back to the US).

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Ok_Interest3555@reddit

That's why we get Hispanics because they want to work hard and are much more likely to follow the basic social contract than Indians.

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thatweirdguyted@reddit

I have no issue with people coming to Canada. I welcome them. Nor do I blame them for any of the job issues here.

I blame companies looking to sidestep our labour laws with visa labour, and I blame educational institutions for becoming diploma mills for foreign students.

Having said that, I do blame the Indian immigrants who choose not to integrate at all, and who bring the problems of their home country here. Canada is already racist enough, we don't need any more of that, thanks.

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FalconRelevant@reddit

You can and should blame the ones that don't integrate, however the responsibility also lies on those who opened the doors to all and refused to even hire an usher with discerning eyes, and now wonder why the riffraff has made its way in.

Personal input: I've integrated well into US despite being a temporary non-immigrant from the country of origin in question. I'm sure I could easily integrate up north as well, however I have no intention to even visit Canada, because the same signals that attract leeches repel me.

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DrProfSrRyan@reddit

In my country, they also have no regard for the diversity laws that got them a chance to begin with. If you give an Indian a chance, they will exclusively hire fellow Indians.

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thatweirdguyted@reddit

Canada? Because its like that here.

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AnDanDan@reddit

It's fucked up that Indian social media had videos saying you can just go to food banks for free food, encouraging people to abuse social security nets just because. This was three years ago.

Reminds of things like the 'grab hag' thing from China, where people will take anything and everything they can thats free, because it's free. I saw one video on the topic - so there may be some inherent bias there - about how thats the reason why some amenities like toilet paper arent freely available in public bathrooms.

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DrProfSrRyan@reddit

Some cultures can handle a 'Community Library', others cannot.

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PerpetualPermaban2@reddit

And the US

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DrProfSrRyan@reddit

Germany.

Apparently it’s the new destination for Indians once Canada started denying them.

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StarSpliter@reddit

Germany is already ~20% first generation (immigrants). I really wonder how their society would react to even more. I've unfortunately heard and seen terrible things about their various cities e.g. Frankfurt.

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Zeraw420@reddit

Exactly, it's their own governments fault for letting scamming run rampant. And of course the million other ways they are fucking up their country.

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CareerLegitimate7662@reddit

You let the problematic ones get free internet

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Perfect_Upstairs_848@reddit

Strongly disagree with a lot of the anti-Indian sentiment I see online. Personally, I've only had completely positive experiences interacting with Indians & visiting Indian majority neighborhoods. The part of my city that was the most dangerous in the 1980s & 1990s is now a quiet suburb of Indian families.

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snesericreturns@reddit

Ignore them OP. Indoor plumbing is overrated.

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MothWaifu1711@reddit

“Other abominations”

OP is intentionally skewing the results by leaving out valuable data.

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mynotsoprecious@reddit

I’m sure people in the comments won’t excuse hating innocent indians on account of terrible indians existence

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orclownorlegend@reddit

They think he's a creep AND a weirdo? Man what the hell is this guy doing here. He doesn't belong here.

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alphaMrWave@reddit

"other abominations" "think I'm a rude nazi"

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DragonofArmageddon@reddit

Up until 100 years ago they wanted to be us

No Anon no one wants to be an indian, not even indians.

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jujubaba_12@reddit

Are you a jjk fan or what. Anon clearly wrote 'with us'

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aspie_electrician@reddit

Bingo. I once had an Indian uber driver (I’m in Canada) he’s been here for 50 years, retired from a steel plant in Hamilton, speaks perfect English. He was telling me that even he hates the new generation of Indians that come into Canada as they just freeload the system, and don’t try to integrate into society.

That’s how you know it’s bad… when your own people hate you and want you gone.

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Up until a 100 years ago the entire world wanted to be with us.

Didn’t realize there had been a change of opinion.

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Arstanishe@reddit

fake: anon thought that people in discord praise him

gay: only way he can get laid