Has anyone here been diagnosed as neurodivergent (autism/adhd) in adulthood? What was the process like?
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33 year old here who has never felt like they "fit" well in the world and after a conversation with 2 seperate and well meaning, lovely colleagues, I may look into seeing if my lifelong oddness feeling may actually be something. What are you experiences? Did you go NHS or Private? Thank you š
decentlyfair@reddit
Unofficially diagnosed in my 30s and didnāt follow up. Officially diagnosed when I was 58 as life just got harder and harder to navigate. As there was a 10 year waiting list in my area I paid privately and continue to do so for follow up appointments.
UnderstandingLow5979@reddit
43, currently going through Autism diagnosis. I'm going through the NHS but using right to choose which makes it much quicker.
Insideout_Ink_Demon@reddit
ADHD diagnosed at 44.
It was a strange one. Having a diagnosis didn't solve anything, but it was nice to know it wasn't just in my head.
Unfortunately the world didn't change to accommodate me, but it gave me a direction to look for workarounds and solutions.
Bubbly_North_2180@reddit
Just to jump in, but did the doctors give you an advice on how to handle your diagnosis? Like any pointers towards helpful sources etc?
Insideout_Ink_Demon@reddit
Not a lot, I was pushed towards meds (mixed results, harsh side effects). I'm waiting to start ADHD coaching on the NHS, but it's been years on the waiting list, I need to chase it
FlakyCelebration2405@reddit
Mine seem to acitvely avoid the topic in South Manchester.
Had to go to therapy and he was the one to suggest I may be
Not sure how it is in other areas - I heard Scotland GPs are refusing, too
FlakyCelebration2405@reddit
Went private because of the NHS waiting times.
Diagnosed Adhd-Combined to nobodies shock.
Got on medication, changed my life.
No more regular doctors visits for anxiety and depression, eating better etc.
Then GP refused take shared care, and laughed when I asked them why multiple times without grasping the true reason
Now I'm paying 133 a month for some get up and go and focus.
I'm left with a bad taste, just because of the price etc.
Oh, and nobody talks about when you're diagnosed - people get really sick of it really quickly. Try not to bang on about it too much.. lol
Bubbly_North_2180@reddit
Hi sorry if this is intrusive but how did handling it differ to handling depression and anxiety? Iāve had several people gently nudge me that I should get tested and I sound the same as you in terms of struggling on. I donāt want to waste anyoneās time š
FlakyCelebration2405@reddit
I think it's the diagnosis - it made me realise personally why I acted in certain ways, which led to understanding and I'm in the process of accepting it now lol.
Combined means hyperactive (internal, external or both) impulsive and inattentive - those three words summed up my whole life.
The medication gives you the dopamine to help control impulses, helps you stay attentive and believe it or not, slows down hyperactivity. Especially with me.
Life changing, just an absolute ball ache of a cost
Bubbly_North_2180@reddit
Thanks for your honesty - much appreciated! Iāve been private before for another life long diagnosis after the NHS dragged their feet for 8 years ā¦ itās a shame we have to resort to that š
Iām glad you got diagnosed and itās made things a littler clearer for you!
katherinemma987@reddit
ADHD in the last year. Went through NHS right to choose and it was appalling, they lost my details and cancelled appointments then at 6am one day I had a 40 minute appointment and they said I donāt have ADHD. After some support and encouragement from friend I went private and had a great experience. The Dr was horrified at the report I shared from the right to choose dr, diagnosed me and helped me with medication and support.
Cold_Timely@reddit
Right to choose is private, it's not NHS, you choose a private provider, btw.
mitchley@reddit
Generally private means you pay out of pocket for it, right to chose means NHS pay a private provider for it. Not all private diagnosis are recognised by the NHS so it's an important distinction.
Alive_Forever_9541@reddit
Hi there. After going private, does the NHS support the diagnosis and provide medication?
Was the medication titration process fully completed on the private process?
Thank you.
little_seahorse1991@reddit
Just jumping on as my husband is going through this and Iām a psych nurse so kinda familiar with the process. Initiating and titrating the medication will have to be done by an ADHD specialist, so if youāve gone private they will have to start the meds and get you to a stable dose. Once youāre happy with the medication, the psychiatrist who managed the medication can request for your GP to continue prescribing under a shared care agreement. GPs differ in how willing they are to do this - I checked with ours before pursuing the private assessment and they said there would be no problem, but some other GPs can be more wary. If they agree, happy days, GP will prescribe. If you later want to adjust the medication (type or dose) this canāt really be done by the GP, and you would have to go back to private, or be referred to the NHS waiting list (which in my area is 7 years)
Alive_Forever_9541@reddit
Thank you. I've heard of differences by NHS authority and their policy, but hadn't appreciated variance by GP.
So great advice to ask the GP first.
little_seahorse1991@reddit
Another thing I just remembered, which unfortunately no one has control over, is that there have been major supply issues with a lot of ADHD meds for at least a couple of years now? As the GP cannot change your prescription, if you find that your prescribed medication is out of stock everywhere with no idea when it will be back, you would have to go through the whole private/endless NHS referral waitlist to have the meds switched to something available.
celestial-bloom@reddit
I've been on adhd meds my whole adult life, what I do is phone my pharmacy, ask what they do have, and then my GP can change my prescription as long as the total daily dosage equals 60mg. (And I have shared care with a private provider bc they take care of my other mental health issues also)
fickle_tartan@reddit
Seconding this because yeah, my GP are a very firm no on shared care for ADHD prescriptions, so even though I went via Right To Choose rather than fully private, I'll have to pay my provider Ā£20 a month to dispense my prescriptions (on top of the NHS prescription cost), and if they shut down then I'll be kind of screwed actually.
NaturalDisaster2582@reddit
Iāve read that some providers send your script over to another RTC provider who can continue it, or something along those lines
fickle_tartan@reddit
Ahh good to know, hopefully won't have to worry about it anyway but still.
elliebattt@reddit
Fully private. Diagnosed Over 2 years ago. Very thorough 3 hour assessment. Quality of care has been brilliant but costs add up. Was told I could get shared care by GP several years ago. (Waited 6 months before starting titration to stabilise an eating disorder.) Titrated slowly, tried diffent medication and have been on a stable dose for 6 months. Local GP policy is now to refuse all ADHD shared care. Because of my dosage I am paying A LOT.
Lizbelizi@reddit
Can you share what it cost you to do it privately?
And how much did it take to go through the NHS pathway from beginning to end?
elliebattt@reddit
Fully private. Adhd assessment Ā£1500. Medication assessment Ā£250 Monthly med reviews ~Ā£120 incl prescription postage. Monthly medication Ā£120-Ā£289 depending on dosage/boosters
Alive_Forever_9541@reddit
So, one off cost of Ā£1500+Ā£250 medication reviews (during titration period only?) Ā£120 (6 months?)
So one off costs over Ā£2000(ish)
Then medication = Ā£2400 annually(ish)
Thank you for sharing.
elliebattt@reddit
Pretty much what I paid. Monthly reviews are during titration but its recomended to review every 6months/year when on a stable dose (gp would be unable to review) or if any issues/side effects need addressing.
If you get lucky, titration can be concluded in 6 months. If you need to try different medication/higher doses it can definitely take a lot longer and this is something to bear in mind. Mine has taken over a year so far. I slowly titrated up to max dose of lisdexamfetamine, then switched and titrated methylphenidate instead due to low efficacy. Turned out methylphenidate was even worse for me so switched back to lisdexamfetamine and currently trying additional booster doses to combat afternoon crash/wearing off too quick.
lasarus29@reddit
Just had my second no-show for my appointment after waking up early to suit their schedule -.-
No apology yet, no acknowledgement, no way to directly contact them. Wild.
EcstaticAdvance684@reddit
I have 2 children with autism and have realised over the years I probably have the same. I have been told by many people to go and get a diagnosis but what would this actually change ive made it to nearly 40 years ,you've made it 33 why do we need a diagnosis this far in life. We are who we are and it is not going to change a thing diagnosed or not.
Unstableavo@reddit
Yes it doesn't change the condition getting diagnosed as an adult. But if you've felt your whole life like your broken, a freak & weirdo to find out your not any of things you just happen to have a condition can be a relief
Lopsided_Toe867@reddit
Kinda agree. We donāt need a label to define us, but at the same time Iād like to know why I am the way I am sometimes. Iām 45f and have had so many jobs over the years, including been ālet goā twice for performance issues. I struggle to follow instructions sometimes, and my communication skills are not great. It would be good to knowĀ
pointsofellie@reddit
I agree to an extent, but I read a quote on social media that really stuck with me. It was "Behind every late diagnosed woman is a little girl who knew this world was never made for her but could never explain why." That resonated because I had no idea what was "wrong" with me all my life. Since being diagnosed with autism in my 30s, I know I'm different rather than wrong. It does help me at work too because if someone thinks I've behaved oddly I can explain the reason and that it's not intentional.
ShineAtom@reddit
For ADHD, the medications can be useful I believe.
mitchley@reddit
r/autismuk has a lot of information.
I got diagnosed autistic this year at 38, through right to choose. Took about 10months from first GP appointment to diagnosis. Hasn't really changed anything apart from every now and then I have a memory and I go "ooooh, autism really explains why that happened".
Nydiwen17@reddit
I first got peer reviewed neurodiverse years and years ago by friends but didn't bother with formal diagnosis for until after I crashed out when Covid happened. š
I went through the NHS, but using right to choose (a private provider that the NHS paid for to cut down on waiting time). I found the standard process is still mostly geared for a child/young adult diagnosis. The forms can lean more on the experiences in school and wanted someone who "knew me in childhood" to do the external witness bit, but I spoke to the team and had my fiancƩ do it and there were 0 problems with that. When I spoke to the psychiatrist, they asked about my past but also focussed on how it affects my job and adult life.
I'm really glad I did it, although I surprised how emotional it made me. It felt like someone shone a light on lots of things in my life that weren't connected but are, or like jigsaw pieces clicking into place: being a weird kid bullied at school, why certain friendships and relationships didn't work out, feeling "other" or not fitting in at work... It's quite common to feel a sort of grief about it? When I was growing up autism was a severe learning disorder and ADHD was for naughty boys, not young girls who were doing well academically.
But, it's really helped with my self-acceptance and love and like I'm able to get an instruction guide on me. I've joined a local ND group and made some friends who I feel I click with and feel more confident in who I am.
Unstableavo@reddit
For me getting the diagnosis letter like 10 pages of heres everything you've ever struggled with and how you've been doing life wrong was actually really hard.
Unstableavo@reddit
Diagnosed with autism at 28. Other Dr's had mentioned it so asked gp to refer me to right to choose. Did a form. GP said I think you've got it. Got referred to psychiatry uk. I'd say it took 3-6 months. Filled out lots of forms. Had a meeting with them.
I felt relief as I knew something was wrong with me. My whole life I've never fitted. A square peg in a world full of round holes. I was always quirky. But i also felt sad because my lives been really hard especially teenage.
Knowing gave me an explanation of why I feel and think the way I do. Prior to diagnosis I'd get really angry at myself. "Why can't you be normal?. What is wrong with me? I'm a freak" Life is still difficult now but knowing helps. I try to gentle parent myself.
You do get some discount things like benefits, railcards, bus passes & access cards that changes by knowing. But id rather be " normal"
purple_crow34@reddit
Got diagnosed with ADHD around the end of last year at 23.
I was already diagnosed autistic, and had been pretty firmly convinced I had ADHD already because basically every symptom seemed incredibly me-coded. Got an appointment at a private digital clinic for Ā£400 (?) and was diagnosed & medicated rapidly.
The diagnosis itself was mostly just relief. I *kinda* began loathing myself a little less at first because it felt like an āexplanationā. But then remembered I donāt believe in free will anyway, everyone has a neurochemical āexplanationā for their behaviour that theyāre ultimately not in control of, and my little medical diagnosis doesnāt change things. So I continued with the standard levels of self-loathing after that, and otherwise donāt really feel any different if you discount the effect of the meds. Personally I wouldnāt have bothered if I couldnāt get meds for it, but I also already knew I was neurodivergent as hell.
The meds though are fucking great. I had issues with crashes and it was a bit messy at first, but it my methylphenidate (āritalinā for the yanks) eliminates a lot of the mental fatigue & motivation issues I had before. Huge change, and absolutely worth the Ā£1,000 or so this entire ordeal has cost me. Iām on shared care now too so I get the prescription on the NHS. Main downsides are that it can wreck your sleep if you take it too close to bedtime, and it makes eating very unappealing & difficult.
feebsiegee@reddit
I was diagnosed with adhd aged 30, 3 years ago. I'd seen a lot of videos about adhd symptoms on tiktok that really resonated, so did lots of googling and wrote down every symptom with examples. Then I handed that to my GP, who told me my life sounded miserable. And it was.
A couple of weeks later, I got a text from psych UK asking me to make an account, and I was diagnosed 3 months after that. I had to get my heart checked out before starting meds, so I only started them about a year ago.
I thought I was broken. I thought that the world hated me. I didn't understand why I couldn't just be normal. I didn't understand why I couldn't just clean my fucking house. The world doesn't actually hate me, it's just not built for me. I've never been normal, that won't change. I still really struggle with housework, but that is slowly getting better overall.
If you feel like adhd or autism may be something you have, chase it up. I was on antidepressants for years, and they never worked - because the depression was a symptom of unmanaged adhd.
Bubbly_North_2180@reddit
Do you find that getting the diagnosis helped you? Like did the meds help dull the noise or make things more bearable?
feebsiegee@reddit
I can function better on meds. My brain makes more sense, even though it's just as loud. It's easier for me to list and prioritise my tasks mentally, I still struggle with starting tasks but it's definitely easier now. I still have my Shit Brain Radio, which is annoying but fine. My brain still never shuts up, so I still struggle with sleep but that has been lifelong so it's fine.
I am less irritable on meds, overall. It's so nice not to be angry every second of the day!
The diagnosis helped me to be kinder to myself about the things I struggle with, which means that I don't stress as much. That also means I am easier to be around. And happier. Once I was medicated, all of that improved as well. I'm still nowhere near normal, but I like being weird.
I'd say the meds make everything more bearable. I'm still an anxiety ridden mess, but that is usually in the background most of the time now. I do have my struggles, they won't go away, but I'm way less harsh on myself and I communicate more with the people around me a lot easier.
Bubbly_North_2180@reddit
Thanks for the detailed reply - I appreciate the honesty! Im glad theyāre helping you āŗļø
Lopsided_Toe867@reddit
Iām 45f and been on the waiting list for an autism assessment (referred from my gp) for over a year.Ā
I got an email recently to say thereās no appointments available now until next financial year, so Iāll be waiting yet another year. Itās frustrating, but I expected it. I canāt afford to go private.Ā
gorroval@reddit
35F, diagnosed about 5 years ago. Getting to the assessment took ages, not helped by how the local NHS service was "restructuring" and then COVID happened.
The assessment itself was very odd from an adult perspective. Like, tell a story with these objects, put these jigsaw pieces together, now we're going to leave the room for five minutes, just do something on your own for a moment. It felt like I was an alien being graded on how human I could appear, like I was going undercover š
If you do go down that route, can I recommend making a list of any particular symptoms that concern you. When you're there in the assessment, you'll almost certainly forget half of them! My team dithered for a while about whether they thought I was autistic. It only occurred to me later that if at some point I'd said "oh, and if I think I've done something wrong I have sobbing meltdowns and hurt myself" they might have been less unsure š
Mr_Bumcrest@reddit
Diagnosed at 36. Went private. Explained a lot of things to me but hasn't helped
WallflowerWhitler@reddit
35F here, diagnosed in April this year, having spent the Covid realising why I never felt I fit in. Having felt there was autism there, as I thought further, I knew there was a chance I had inattentive ADHD, too.
I approached it with my therapist in March, as I was terrified of saying it out that it became real. He agreed there was some spiciness there, and wrote me a letter for my GP to get a referral. Iām very lucky heās been incredibly supportive, I cried when he said, āIāve got you.ā
I was fortunate enough to go through private medical insurance, so the process was around 6 weeks start to finish. I had to get the NHS GP referral to get the autism assessment process started, but was underwhelmed with the initial response. The GP didnāt want to see me, and just sent me a referral form where they ask you and either a parent/someone who knew you in childhood, to fill the forms out. Itās to ensure that the traits were present in childhood, and how you changed throughout.
Not sure of the NHS process after that, but in my pathway, they will do a dual assessment of you and your parent/childhood person, and talk through your lived experience. Within the session, you can say you suspect ADHD and they will ask questions that can point to it.
As the diagnosis is still somewhat leaning on the male standard, if you are female, itās important to note your lived experience, especially when it comes to masking.
Happy to chat through if you have any questions āŗļø
Belterhaze31@reddit
Canāt really help you with the process as someone who has been diagnosed as a child I truly donāt think getting a diagnosis will help the situation
Nothing changes, you just get a little label to yourself reminding you that your different from others
Might feel different as an adult, but it certainly wasnāt great as a child and greatly hindered my upbringing and kept me in a bad space
starsandshards@reddit
I was diagnosed 10 years ago on the NHS. I wouldn't be able to work without my meds, they (and the diagnosis and subsequent self-acceptance) have changed my life.
Background-Purple244@reddit
I had a good experience, I had NHS diagnosis within 9 months of referral. I was already under another NHS mental health service though so I think that sped the process up as the assessment could be done internally. After diagnosis I was referred to the adult autism and ADHD service who gave me 6 sessions with an occupational therapist which I found really useful, they helped me put in place accommodations and stuff which really made my life so much easier!!
zamoflo@reddit
I always felt a bit ādifferentā and struggled with a lot of things from childhood despite being bright and a high achiever. It took me a while to decide whether to go for a diagnosis, and once I did I was on the NHS waiting list for around 18 months, then moved area and had to start again at the back of the queue and it would have been a minimum 2 year wait so went private because I was really struggling - checked with my GP first that they would accept shared care with my chosen provider beforehand and they agreed. And I got an assessment date within days! Luckily I managed to claim some money back through my workplace private healthcare plan which softened the blow a bit too. Then I was able to start tritiation about two weeks after diagnosis. The practitioner I saw did mention that he felt Iād also meet the criteria for autism but I havenāt decided on whether to look into that yet.
Once my medication tritiation was done I moved onto shared care and get my meds through my GP, and now I just have to pay for a private review twice a year with the private provider (which will go down to once a year after the first 12 months medicated).
Honestly even if you donāt go down the meds route I would recommend it. For me it was a good experience, both my provider and GP have been supportive and itās enabled me to get some extra help with work. And on top of that itās been validating to know that there is a reason why Iāve always felt weird - itās not just in my head! Despite all of that Iāve not told a lot of people in āreal lifeā apart from those Iām closest to because I feel like Iāll get the āwell everyoneās ADHD now because itās trendy!ā comments and I canāt be bothered with it!
GapDifficult7@reddit
ADHD at 30. I went to my gp and got an NHS diagnosis through right to choose.
Psychiatry UK have been incredible. I have complex medical needs and they have worked alround health challenges really well and even talk to my other NHS consultants. Both the psychiatrist and nurse prescriber have been amazing.
Took a few attempts to find the right medication for me. Had some side effects. But the meds have been transformative.
Diagnositic proceedure was good. I had a 2 hour long interview, and myself and my husband filled in very long questionaires. It was very thorough, as it should be. The psychiatrist was kind throughout. You need to meet criteria for diagnosis both as an adult and at school, so it looks at alot.
My local primary care wont accept shared care aggrements with private providers, meaning I cant get my meds on my normal repeat prescription. However, psychiatry UK continued to prescribe them and just bill the NHS. So unless you can afford indefinite medication, go through the NHS.
Agitated_District@reddit
Autism last year at 27. I was quite fortunate to be referred from the perinatal mental health team for post partum anxiety. Took 2.5 years for an assessment, got the results a month later.
Bubbly_North_2180@reddit
Sorry if this is intrusive but how did you know the difference between the anxiety and autism? Iām an anxious person but multiple people (including our disabilities team at work) have gently nudged me to pursuing further testing š
e-pancake@reddit
I got my autism diagnosis three or four years ago as an adult. went the NHS route which was predicted as a wait of three and a half years, thankfully an external/private service contacted me 8 months into the wait saying theyāre taking on NHS patients to lower the waitlist and I went that route. super kind and smooth process and I def feel better about myself now
knittingkate@reddit
I went private for my autism diagnosis. The psychiatrist was lovely, didnāt rush me through anything but was really thorough. They were even ok with me not having someone whoād known me as a child - just asked me questions about what I remembered.
Adult Autism Practice - Iād highly recommend them.
GladAd2948@reddit
Just diagnosed with AUDH through the nhs.
VastComfortable9925@reddit
If you can Iād advise you request to be tested for both adhd and ASD.
I was diagnosed about 2 years ago via the NHS. I asked to be assessed for both but they changed the way they do them so Iāve sat on a waiting list to be assessed for ASD for ages and will sit it on it ages more before they get to me (if they ever do, a lot of places are apparently āclosing their referrals listā).
You might be like me, get diagnosed with ADHD and realise when you start the meds that your ASD traits become more pronounced. I eventually figured it out and apparently itās massively common. I wish someone had told me.
Also if you are female itās worth looking into the impact of perimenopause on both ADHD and ASD. Good luck!
KatVanWall@reddit
My bf is currently going through assessments for either/both; he's 39.
I have to say, everything he is telling me about the process so far has me saying 'wait what - but that's normal though isn't it?!' and now wondering about myself ... but at 46 I honestly can't be arsed. The world isn't going to adapt to me so I'll keep on surviving lol
NaturalDisaster2582@reddit
ADHD at 34, went though the Right to Choose route. Different providers have different wait times and my GP referred me to Psychiatry-UK. I always meant to change it as they have the longest wait time but we know how ADHD isā¦
That being said once I got to tritiation my prescriber (not sure these are doctors at this stage or just someone trained in prescribing) I have no arguments against them. Sheās been wonderful and Iāve spoken to her on the phone a few times to discuss treatment plans and symptoms. Iāve been told some peoples prescribers arent great so I might be one of the lucky ones.
Lizbelizi@reddit
How long did you have to wait?
NaturalDisaster2582@reddit
For the assessment and the tritiation it was almost a year each.
Thereās providers with significantly less wait times which you can ask your GP to refer to instead, this website has a runs through them - https://adhduk.co.uk/right-to-choose/right-to-choose-wait-times/
meatypinkness@reddit
I went through Right to Choose for an autism assessment aged 20 and it was just 12 weeks wait from my referral to my appointment. Had to ask my GP first then they did a basic screening and referred me onwards to Psychiatry UK. Couldnāt fault the process at all given that it cost me absolutely nothing but not how much this applies to today as this was 3 years ago.
I canāt comment on the process of getting prescriptions/treatment as it was more for myself getting answers than it was to get any treatment afterwards. I hated self-diagnosing myself so wanted it āofficialā. I was offered CBT as an option but have had it in the past and hated it so didnāt bother. Life makes so much more sense now I have an answer as to why things like school and socialising as an adult are the way they are. Iāve improved my own life so much after my diagnosis just with that context.
Namerakable@reddit
I was diagnosed with autism 3 or so years ago.
I went private, but it was with a psychiatrist we were recommended as a specialist in autism via people we know working in CAMHS.
Petrichor_ness@reddit
I (F) was diagnosed two years ago (when I was 37) with ASD.
By this point I'd already designed my life to be comfortable for me (self employed, WFH, moved to the middle of nowhere Highlands). But I just wanted to know for my own peace of mind. I knew my mother was autistic, I knew I had a lot of her traits and I knew how miserable she made her own life and didn't want to end up like that.
I ended up getting a private assessment done because the NHS kicked me off their waiting list after a year.
It hasn't changed my life in a movie kinda way but I do find life a lot easier now and find it easier to push myself into things I couldn't do before and know when it's OK to unmask and when it's not.
kazxam@reddit
I'm currently waiting for an ASD assessment. I've gone via NHS right to choose.
I'm in my 30s, I know getting a diagnosis won't change anything but it will hopefully help with making things make sense.
Key-Practice5213@reddit
I was diagnosed by the NHS over a decade ago at the ago 40. I was thrown a huge amount of medication with no support whatsoever. I believed at the time medication was the answer and trust the medical model and the professionals. I was rattling round like I donāt know what my hair fell out and couldnāt eat or sleep. So I stopped all the pills and ended up with psychosis with no support. I pulled through ate well and started the gym although I still didnāt feel right. Fast forward the NHS missed the Autism and Edās/heds gut functions and bendy brain profile( see Dr Jessica Eccles work). https://linktr.ee/bendybrain Itās like the blind leading the blind with lack of and no resources through NHS. I have educated my self and do a lot meditation š§ lots of inner work and found support groups
idekkanymoree_@reddit
My brother, 25 went through right to choose and got diagnosed with both the inattentive and hyperactive types of adhd last year. Would have been better if he didnāt have to do his assessment via video call in Tenerife but it still worked out for him!
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