Ultra 9 285k or something else?
Posted by BonHarley@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 33 comments
Hey everyone I’m wanting the best cpu price to performance right now. My use cases would be video editing (davinci), music production, streaming, and gaming (nothing extreme). I keep seeing intel is going to be better for editing h.265 files, is this true? Let me know if there’s something better than the 285k for these tasks. Thanks
Also, should I get 5070ti or 5080 noctua? Again price to performance right now. Wanting things as queit as possible too
aminy23@reddit
270K Plus with 48GB or more DDR5-7200 and a decent Gen 5 NVMe SSD will be my suggestion.
The 270K Plus despite the name is basically a newer refreshed version of the 285K.
For tasks like video editing/processing, the faster RAM and SSD helps it load, save, etc faster. 6400 is officially supported by the 285K and 7200 is officially supported by the 270K Plus so it's not even an overclock.
The CPU price already nullifies most of the cost with this.
285K basic example
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270K Premium Example
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NerlFartley@reddit
What mobo do you recommend to go with the 270K Plus Premium BOM you spec'd?
aminy23@reddit
I personally use a 250K Plus + Z890 Aorus Master.
The Z890 Aorus Master is typically a $500 board that's now going for under $300. It beats almost any other sub-$300 board. Other $500+ boards have little actual advantage.
The Asus ProArt would be my other recommendation, but it's about 50% more for a comparable board.
It has an 8 layer PCB + 18 stage x 110A VRM which is excellent. It has all the key features like BIOS post code display, 10GBE Ethernet, dual TB4, ESS DAC, etc
Otherwise Asus STRIX, Gigabyte Aorus Pro, MSI Carbon would be the more mainstream high end.
But Z890 would be the chipset to get.
NerlFartley@reddit
Thank you. Your helping me narrow down the choices for my BOM.
albinoking80@reddit
I thought the 285k was still a little faster, especially for multitasking. Either way, I’d go with 285k or 9950x, possibly 270k Plus, depending on the particular software being used.
BonHarley@reddit (OP)
I was looking to get the fury g5 4tb for the ssd. I noticed it doesn’t have heatsink though. Would that be a problem you think?
kaje@reddit
Depends on what motherboard you're getting. Decent mobos tend to have heatsinks for their M.2 slots. You can't install those over top of a heatsink that comes with an SSD.
BonHarley@reddit (OP)
I was going to get the asus strix AMD AM5 X870 ATX
Serious_Newspaper823@reddit
That doesnt work. X870 AM5 is for amd cpus. You need an LGA1851 mobo, so either a b860 or z890 (technically h810 works aswell).
BonHarley@reddit (OP)
Oh shoot that’s right. I originally was going to get the 9950x3d. Would the intel be a better idea for the tasks I need?
Serious_Newspaper823@reddit
Yeah the 270k plus offers better price/performance in productivity, while still being good for gaming.
kaje@reddit
AM5 X870 is for AMD CPUs. That's not compatible with an Intel CPU. You LGA 1851, like a Z890.
Tiny-Chipmunk7211@reddit
You can buy heatsinks on amazon for like $5 lol
SweetBacon923@reddit
Yes 270k Plus.
5070ti will be plenty.
Suggest you one good ultrawide monitor. It will help in editing videos or music.
BonHarley@reddit (OP)
Which one would you recommend
SweetBacon923@reddit
Look up AOC 34 ultrawide should be around €250.
BonHarley@reddit (OP)
I see that it’s 180hz. Shouldn’t I be looking for something that’s 240?
SweetBacon923@reddit
I'm certain they do have 240hz model as well. Check other retailers if Amazon is out of stock.
Just avoid cheap Chinese weird brand name models. Get from AOC, MSI, LG, Asus etc only.
zacharylop@reddit
270k plus would be better
Tiny-Chipmunk7211@reddit
Ultra 7 270k is the same thing but probably cheaper
Tiny-Chipmunk7211@reddit
yes for h265 intel is amazing. My 265k is amazing at it. And if you want the best price for performance in a GPU you will probably need to go AMD but I'm sure you've already seen benchmarks for all that stuff
KingBrave1@reddit
I was gonna say the same think. I love my 265K and I have an AMD card, too.
Tiny-Chipmunk7211@reddit
The only reason I still rock nvidia is because my 2080ti I got early last year on marketplace was a killer deal with the PC I got it in, it was originally a 9900k rig that was fully custom water cooled. Still is water cooled lol. I only upgraded the rest of the machine because the 9900k mobo decided to have some burn marks in my NVME slot
KingBrave1@reddit
My last card was a 2060ti! I still have it in case something goes wrong with my new one.
BonHarley@reddit (OP)
I actually haven’t, all I keep seeing is 5070ti and the 5080 isn’t worth it. Which amd would you go with?
LLuk333@reddit
Well there’s no better option than an RX 9070XT, I have one myself, and an 4080. they perform basically the same, tho I like the AMD software a lot more. Paid 650€ for it which is a good price. Idk if you can get them that cheap but they perform about the same.
BonHarley@reddit (OP)
I’m seeing them for 7-800 dollars right now
Tiny-Chipmunk7211@reddit
I mean for your workflow nvidia might be better because of CUDA and whatnot so you need to see if anything you do requires an Nvidia GPU or works better with it. Look at benchmarks and how each brand compares. I think I would choose a 9070 or 9070xt personally. But if you think you need more than that the 5080 is your only real option it is a whole class of GPU above both the 70 class card options from AMD and Nvidia obviously
Tiny-Chipmunk7211@reddit
I am less familiar with your workload in particular so nvidia might be what you need in the end for your GPU
aminy23@reddit
AMD GPUs are designed for gaming. For gaming it's the best value, but outside of gaming the performance is typically unremarkable at best. They are an exceptional value for gaming because of the limited utility outside of it.
Nvidia GPUs are over 80% not gaming. They thoroughly dominate other industries and most of these trickle down to gaming GPU.
One example of this is the latest AMD GPUs finally have decent hardware for video streaming, but these hardware encoders can't do 4:4:4 color which Nvidia's can and would be preferred for most video editing projects where you wouldn't want to sacrifice color quality.
CUDA is also often utilized for video processing and effects.
ZwhGCfJdVAy558gD@reddit
I use a 265K for video encoding with x265. The slightly faster 270K is now available for under $300. Nothing at this price class can touch it for software encoding.
notadroid@reddit
for video editing and streaming you're going to want to go with an NVIDIA gpu. their encoders for streaming are just plain better and they work better with programs like Davinci.
get a 5070Ti. it has two encoding chips on it and still does very well at 1440p high/ultra quality in gaming.
I'm saying all of the above as someone who is brand neutral. if price/performance was your goal and you weren't doing davinci or creating content, I would have absolutely recommended a 9060XT.
for the CPU go with the new 270K Plus.
Sousuke-Sagara@reddit
If you want to go with Intel the best is the 270k plus and cheaper than the 285k. And outperforms it slightly.