Anon asks the big questions

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Zesty-Lem0n@reddit

Both can create unrealistic expectations that end up damaging someone's life. Gooners desensitize themselves to normal women and lose out on normal relationships that would probably make them happier. W*men read this regarded shit slop and gaslight themselves into thinking they deserve to be treated like royalty instead of an equal partner, thus losing out on normal relationships that would probably make them happier.

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Mr__Castle_@reddit

I just want to put it in her butthole, I'm not asking for Satan to worship me.

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ibetyouliketes@reddit

Putting your penis inside an anal cavity instead of a vagina is a psy-op. They make the sacred profane and the profane sacred.

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simp4malvina@reddit

very allegorical.

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Mr__Castle_@reddit

I do both so they cancel each other out.

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JohnBGaming@reddit

Based

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Adept-Platypus6676@reddit

Differentiation of fiction from reality is dead

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JustChillin3456@reddit

Men just want to look at big booby women and self insert as the man who dominates them

Women read about being brutally raped by monsters or if it’s a man they are domestically abused

Both kinds of gooners deserve one another

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wtfcarl@reddit

At least these women aren't objectifying and dehumanizing a real person when they read fantasy smut. Porn isn't bad because it gets people off, it's bad because real people are being harmed and exploited and you're getting off to it.

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philmarcracken@reddit

it's bad because real people are being harmed and exploited and you're getting off to it

The worst example in recent memory was GDP, and many of them have repeat appearances, which weakens your argument for lacking autonomy.

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wtfcarl@reddit

i didn't say anything about lacking autonomy. Exploitation happens even if there's consent. Harm happens even if there's consent. People agree to things that they don't want to do when they're desperate for money or mentally ill.

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philmarcracken@reddit

Someone banging their head against a wall isn't being exploited, by the wall.

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wtfcarl@reddit

no but if someone starts filming and sells the video to a bunch of men who have a fetish for people banging their heads against a wall, then yeah that person is being exploited.

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JustChillin3456@reddit

I agree, so would you be in favor of banning porn? Why are the biggest advocates of porn/ sex work women themselves?

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wtfcarl@reddit

Do you have a source for the "biggest advocates of porn/sex work" being women? Because the consumer base of porn / sex work is overwhelming male.

No I'm not in favor of banning porn on principle I just think it's insane to compare getting off to fictional stories to getting off to actual people who are more likely than not exploited and abused.

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JustChillin3456@reddit

“Porn exploits and abuses women but I’m not in favor of banning it”

🤦🏻‍♂️

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wtfcarl@reddit

I think banning it altogether is censorship and ultimately pointless. I'm in favor of more regulation in working conditions and safety measures.

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-StalkedByDeath-@reddit

Sold. That just makes it hotter

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ChatiAnne@reddit

One demands it at every media they consume, the other keeps it in the fanfics.

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cell689@reddit

I'm confused, which is which?

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Wtch91@reddit

Aren't we supposed to fantasize about being the big booby woman getting railed by the man's big sweaty hairy cock?

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Ptar_Migan@reddit

Dude, that's gay as fuck, fantasizing about being a woman smh my head. I fantasize about being the big testicle man getting railed by the man's big sweaty hairy cock, much less gay that way.

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JustChillin3456@reddit

Anything but being the cum receptacle for alien babies

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wordjedi@reddit

Remember a few years ago they were trying to convince everyone their rɐpe fantasies were really about being so hot a man loses control and MUST have them

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-_I_I_Sea_I_I_-@reddit

The copium levels women have are to be studied

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CuTTyFL4M@reddit

It's just lust. The desire to be desired.

It's so simple it's confusing.

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baudmiksen@reddit

gif

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PinBeneficial1366@reddit

Both become degenerate after spending enough time doing that

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LuvMeChippy@reddit

At least people who consume porn all day are self aware it's something degenerate

Women who read smut are deluded to the point where they think they are automatically better than half of the population because "muh literature"

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19Alexastias@reddit

I’m not entirely sure that first sentence is true tbh

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Apprehensive-Toe4160@reddit

Number of book readers would plummet if you would remove smut and self help books.

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sisterfister27@reddit

Do you think the venn diagram of smut readers and people that buy self help books is basically a circle?

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Bloodhoven_aka_Loner@reddit

nearly

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DogSerious1971@reddit

you forgot about all the males that try to find "enlightenment" via spirituality, financial "advice" or alpha male garbage that buy loads of guru slop

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FuckRedditIsLame@reddit

Men really try to find enlightenment in any meaningful numbers? That doesn't really ring true, certainly not from my experience.

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Envi_Sci_Guy@reddit

The only difference between a chick with healing crystals and a dude with a magnetic bracelet that improves his stamina is how they frame it. Bro-science fills the same void as spirituality

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FuckRedditIsLame@reddit

I clearly mix with very different people, I had no idea this stuff even exists.

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rayz0101@reddit

No I work in a library, i.e. majority women. It's a shitshow and the women are extremely judgmental about reading habits more so than the few guys working here. Anything related to finance or stoicism or particularly The Art of War, or 48 Laws of Power or anything Robert Greene is seen as "bro-philosophy" which is a major "red-flag" and derided endlessly (tbf it is kinda really misrepresentative of history and overgeneralizes and cherry-picks a lot). If you aren't reading the most hardcore feminist slop you're a "low-key misogynistic" the more alt lifestyle/goth ones tend to read lot of wiccan/paganism/tarot card shit unironically, or historical romance, or sci fi romance, or biographies which are usually detailed accounts of romances. They buy mostly comics/manga and manuals/academic materials for men as that's what sees the most traffic for the demo or the spy thriller like Tom Clancy and sci fi or Stephen King etc.

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Apprehensive-Toe4160@reddit

Damn, I forgot witchcraft stuff. Hovewer it surprises me. Women being crazy about magic, crystals, astrology and stuff like that is nothing new. But I didnt realize that it is big even in book world.

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Apprehensive-Toe4160@reddit

On the contrary. You are either smut enjoyer or enlightened CEO of your own life reading self help.

I just think that those two trash genres govern majority of book sales.

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Darkenmal@reddit

Good.

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buttgrapist@reddit

They think they're well read too even though they never read anything educational, it's all harlequin fantasy slop

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highso@reddit

They jerk off a few times a week and brag about reading 100 books

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buttgrapist@reddit

More like a few times a day

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Positive-Face1705@reddit

Bro just made ts up.

Erotica is for ugly girls who get no play in real life, and they think the opposite of being better than half the population. Don't ask me how I know.

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FlowerRoomLord@reddit

How do you know?

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Positive-Face1705@reddit

A friend told it to me.

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FlowerRoomLord@reddit

I believe you. Tumblr has got a bunch of lonely starving femcels like this. It's genuinely worse than it was a decade ago.

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Legend13CNS@reddit

starving

Most of them are definitely not starving

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FlowerRoomLord@reddit

I meant starved for love and lust not food lol

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Cumsocktornado@reddit

anecdotally the amount of married and dating women I knew who raved about 50 shades when it came on the scene (sic) gives me pause

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Valuable-Chipmunk784@reddit

Stop talking like a neighbor.

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Positive-Face1705@reddit

No, my neighbor.

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koifarming@reddit

Idk if they think that though, and if they do, who really cares? My only concern is that they might expect too much because of romantic stories, like things have to be "perfect korean romcom" tier. Thankfully my gf isn't like this, but I can imagine how that shit can affect someone else. Hope this makes sense lol.

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PinBeneficial1366@reddit

Well, there are a lot of ugly fucks who watch hentai/anime harem shit and expect that every girl gonna do everything to meet him and be his "asian wife" , that's why I said that it's works both ways

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cybrfunk@reddit

Woman who read smut are absolute freaks

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Cumsocktornado@reddit

Porn addicts are generally gross but are rightly identifiable and even will admit to it being gross as a whole.

Erotica consumers will play all kinds of word games or even take umbrage at the comparison, they are in denial.

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buttgrapist@reddit

Smut novels are worse because it flies under the radar

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ChatiAnne@reddit

Lol.

As if boys don't consume porn since before they turn 10.

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Ptar_Migan@reddit

I didn't. I was linked to meatspin when I was like 11, but other than that, I was about 14 before I started watching pornography, most of it starring your mother.

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ChatiAnne@reddit

This is a weird way of saying that at the age of 11 you saw your mother doing porn.

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Paratrooper101x@reddit

Kids have internet on everything now. You think they aren’t watching porn?

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outfoxingthefoxes@reddit

Back in 2010 I used to watch porn on my fucking Wii

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oni_no_onii-chan@reddit

Did it had motion control mechanics too?

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buttgrapist@reddit

You don't think that's a problem?

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Paratrooper101x@reddit

I think porn is bad for everyone. But my point was to say how can smut be worse because kids can access it? Kids can access porn too

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buttgrapist@reddit

Smut novels is porn, ideally kids shouldn't have access to either and they definitely shouldn't be able to check it out from a school library

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Paratrooper101x@reddit

I agree.

If smut ends up in a school library, it was probably because whoever put it there didn’t know it was smut. It’s not like you can walk into a school library and find the smut shelf

While we are on the subject, kids shouldn’t be kept coddled from challenging subject matter. I checked out “The things they carried” from my middle school library. I’d argue that book was darker than any porn I could get my hands on at that age. But it was a good, substantive read.

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HonestLemon25@reddit

Because one of them is promoted by our education system

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Paratrooper101x@reddit

Sure it is

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mo7233@reddit

Smut is promoted by our education system?

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Kryslor@reddit

ThInK oF ThE cHiLdrEn!!1!!

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ElKuhnTucker@reddit

Dude don't think of children when watching porn

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Ptar_Migan@reddit

How can I not when they're the stars?

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Hour-Passenger-7077@reddit

Yes.

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LooseButtPlug@reddit

Found the people handing a Nabokov novel to children.

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Cute_Prune6981@reddit

True. I remember having the realisation years later that the book that a girl from my class in the 8th grade presented was basically a porn book.

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Positive-Face1705@reddit

LMAO tons of corn sites let anyone in.

Toddlers on their phones could look up ts.

You think a four year old couldn't click on tue "Are you 18 and above?" popup?

It's far more accessible than books at school, and nobody reads these days.

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Medium_Cranberry4096@reddit

corn

Kek

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greystar07@reddit

You can say porn. Let go of TikTok self censorship brain washing.

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Positive-Face1705@reddit

I have eyes I see other people using the word in the comments. I'm censoring for myself. Because I want to.

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greystar07@reddit

Genuinely weird behavior. Imagine what propaganda can do to you. Lmfao.

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LooseButtPlug@reddit

Gross

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-StalkedByDeath-@reddit

Unprovoked self censorship on the internet is wild

Don't worry, you won't get demonetized. Like what? lol

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DrillTheThirdHole@reddit

yeah but school libraries dont accidentally stock pornhub. you can (and should) keep your kids off the internet unsupervised until theyre old enough for that kind of thing, but you can't prevent them from picking up a smut book a school library accidentally stocked until they already have it.

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COCK_SUCKEM@reddit

>corn

You have to leave.

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Happy_Ocelot_4945@reddit

Don't kink shame. I recognize their user name from farmersonly

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ali_stronk_guy@reddit

corn

Choke on a bad dragon

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NoPossibility4178@reddit

Time to go back to burning books.... Oh wait

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TheFlaskQualityGuy@reddit

Yes, burning evil books is good.

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ErectoCooler@reddit

What a braindead take

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greystar07@reddit

I mean it is correct tho, I’ve seen it w my own eyes.

But to imply the same thing isn’t true for porn is indeed braindead. In this regard, I wouldn’t say one is worse than the other.

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hiiresare@reddit

holy fucking Claude in that book

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T3X4ss@reddit

That writing is abysmal dogshit

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philmarcracken@reddit

Its AI generated

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JablesRadio@reddit

Anyone who reads this shit is as much a degenerate as gooners.

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dragonbeorn@reddit

I have no problem with smut, but from reading a number of them I gotta say they’re almost all awfully written. Like middle school level writing mistakes. I recommend any aspiring authors read smut, it will boost your confidence as a writer.

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lornlynx89@reddit

The same can be said about porn. In the end you get off and stop caring.

Oh my god I just realised, women having a bookshelf of romance novels is just the same as a man having one full of dvd pornos.

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DylanBlair69@reddit

Damn... this changed everything

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lornlynx89@reddit

Gi....gigitti!

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Prestigious_Wrap_932@reddit

Both will burn when we remake the world.

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Curiouso_Giorgio@reddit

Worse than either is people who think they get to judge other people because they enjoy erotic materials.

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DiogenesTheHound@reddit

The smut reading is such a waste of time compared to watching a minute of porn and rubbing one out though. They do it to make it seem like an elevated intellectual practice. I know girls that read hundreds of these dogshit books when they could’ve watched 30 seconds of porn and read something thats actually well written or beneficial.

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The romance genre is machine than human at this point.

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