Implement more AI so we don't have to hire people all while we stack the C suite

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Trust_8067@reddit

I don't believe any of this nonsense. I don't think any companies are thinking that way at all. They're thinking "How can we grow our business with AI" not "How can we replace our staff with AI".

"Automation is going to take our jobs" is what sysadmins have been saying since at least 20 years when I started out. Nothing has changed.

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american-soundtrack@reddit (OP)

Believe what you want but the CEO said to my face that he wanted more AI so that he doesn't have to hire more employees, all while hiring more VPs & Chiefs

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Trust_8067@reddit

He said he wants AI so he can hire more VP's?

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american-soundtrack@reddit (OP)

Huh?

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Trust_8067@reddit

You're claiming the CEO of your company told you that he wants to hire more VP's and C-suite executives.

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american-soundtrack@reddit (OP)

I never said that. Read it again homie

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Trust_8067@reddit

Well that's what you're trying to imply. Otherwise you're conflating two very different things either out of pure ignorance and stupidity, or just to mislead people into agreeing with you.

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american-soundtrack@reddit (OP)

I'm not implying anything. It's literally what is fucking happening....

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Trust_8067@reddit

Oh, so ignorance and stupidity, got it.

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Just remember, it's not AI. It's an advanced version of T9 texting thats extremely inefficient expensive to run. There is something like 600 billion dollars of missing revenue in the AI sector to make the data center investments make sense. This is a bubble, none of the AI companies are making money and we are still decades from actual AGI. It's going to pop by the end of next year at the latest. It's going to be a bloodbath for the brain rotted CEOs who are obsessed with this stuff and we'll be there watching with popcorn.

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Pearmoat@reddit

That's like saying a MacBook Pro is just an advanced calculator.

It's safe to say that LLMs are here to stay and the number of use cases will go up.

While frontier models are expensive to run, there are a lot of models which use much less resources, and they are also getting more capable.

If the bubble bursts, there'll be a lot of memory on the market for local LLMs.

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Crotean@reddit

LLMs aren't here to stay, outside of a few specific large data set cases in science and certain coding situations they suck at what they do. Once you have to pay what it actually costs to run them or try to build the models yourself they will mostly go away

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Pearmoat@reddit

Programming and science isn't nothing, is it? Then there are a lot of text based applications, like translations. I see that LLMs can already help a lot doing initial research for a topic - even local LLMs.

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Scurro@reddit

Programming and science isn't nothing, is it?

Aren't these primarily using them for what was their original purpose; autocompletes?

Dev's that copy more than one line from an LLM prompt are going to have a steep increase in bugs.

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hutacars@reddit

Are you from 2023?

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Scurro@reddit

I use VS Code with the latest free models (copilot and claude haiku 4.5) and I'm not coding anything more complex than scripting languages (powershell, bash, php, sql, javascript).

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Cubewood@reddit

Shows you how behind you are. Nobody is copying lines of code from an LLM anymore. Since around November last year Claude Code and Codex got so good Devs are simply letting an agent run wild in a CLI, then spawn another agent which will execute the code, have another agent with desktop usage perform QA testing, and then hand it over to another agent which is performing a security review on the code. You guys are all still thinking of LLM's like they used to be two years ago, these tools are progressing so rapidly, if you haven't used one for three months you are already far behind its current capabilities.

Don't get me wrong - I also don't like the impact this is going to have on the job market, but this simple denialism of the capabilities you keep seeing posted here really doesn't help anyone.

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Scurro@reddit

So...what about the LLMs that can't even get one line of powershell code correct without hallucinating cmdlets?

Doesn't count? Not the same? I don't know what I'm doing?

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Cubewood@reddit

Again. This just shows you that the last time you used an AI model must be two years ago. Because Opus 4.8 is more than capable of creating Powershell. If you install Claude Code in your terminal it will even test the Powershell code and debug it prior to providing you the script. You guys are still thinking of ChatGPT 3.5, use something like Claude Code or Codex and you will never see these problems.

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Scurro@reddit

This just shows you that the last time you used an AI model must be two years ago.

This is a sysadmin reddit. I use VS Code with the latest free models copilot and claude haiku 4.5 and I'm not coding on anything more complex than scripting languages (powershell, php, sql, javascript).

Their isn't any way my org is going to purchase tokens and agents for these tasks so I'm basing my experience on what I can use for free.

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Pearmoat@reddit

Lately an OpenAI model disproved a famous hypothesis in combinatory geometry.

It still needed mathematicians to get that result. But the reasoning LLM combined approaches from different fields to lay the foundation and point the experts in the right direction. In my opinion, that's way more than just "autocomplete".

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Scurro@reddit

Sorry my statement was directed at the programming portion of that question.

"Disproving" in my eyes also seems in the realm of autocomplete imo.

You throw enough what-ifs on the wall until you find a result that the answer doesn't match.

Something that could be accomplished with brute force and trillions of attempts.

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SemiAutoAvocado@reddit

Yeah this is like when uber's were $2 to get from one side of SF to another in 2012.

Now it's $100.

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sybrwookie@reddit

It's safe to say that NFTs are here to stay and the number of use cases will go up. <- You 5 years ago

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Pearmoat@reddit

You sound like a one trick pony.

NFTs were a rather trivial idea on top of blockchain. There was marketing and some hype, but almost no real applications. Solution looking for problem.

LLMs are daily tools for hundreds of millions of people, are used in many applications and are not a "finished concept" but still evolving.

If you think that developers will stop using LLMs in the near future, then I bet everything against you.

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sybrwookie@reddit

LLMs were tried and rejected by hundreds of millions of people, used for free to make jokes by just as many as they were free, and adopted and thrown out by millions of companies once the real cost started to come time to pay and they realized it's not actually replacing people.

They're NFTs with more marketing and idiots with too much money behind them, only still propelled at all by CEOs blinded by the promise of money and fear if they miss out on something.

It's already falling apart as data center projects are stalled everywhere, prices are skyrocketing, and free use of it is drying up.

Once again, you're the same as the NFT bros and the crypto bros before them.

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SemiAutoAvocado@reddit

decades from actual AGI

I don't think this is ever happening. It's beyond us as a species.

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Scurro@reddit

I've said it before and got downvoted but I agree that it won't happen on silicon but it will be a possibility on biocomputing.

We are already training brain cells on a chip and selling it: CL1

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ChemicalExample218@reddit

It's never happening with LLMs. That's the silly part.

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RabidTaquito@reddit

Just remember, it's not AI.

This is exactly why I strictly refer to it as LLM(s). gods I wish others would smell the coffee already.

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Crotean@reddit

Yep same rule for me.

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Scurro@reddit

Man there were threads like this the weeks after release of chatgpt where I had sad the same thing about these chatbots not being AI but autocomplete.

They were downvoted by the hive mind.

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Ninjabeaver212@reddit

Unfortunately it still gets downvoted into oblivion. People have been on the Kool-aid for too long at this point.

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SemiAutoAvocado@reddit

I like to call is machine learning, which is is what we were calling it 8 years ago.

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ArthurStevensNZ@reddit

If it really does go pear shaped, they'll find a way to take money from Joe Public, just like they did during the GFC. A lot of innocent people will lose their shirts.

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angrydeuce@reddit

Yep, this will be framed as a national security issue due to China and bailouts will be large and predominately borne on the backs of Joe Taxpayer.

There is no way they will allow them to feel the consequences directly, consequences are only for the poors.

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Ninjabeaver212@reddit

My theory is that OpenAI jumped onto those government contracts like a moth to a flame for this specific reason. The looming IPO is the dead giveaway.

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benuntu@reddit

Privatize profits, socialize losses. Much like the housing bubble and bank collapses, they really love socialism when it bails them out.

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sybrwookie@reddit

It's worth noting that with the banks, we got paid back every penny of that bailout, plus (a low amount of) interest.

The problem there is those bailouts didn't come along with rules put in place to make sure that kind of thing couldn't happen again (like reinstating Glass–Steagall, so if places wanted to act irresponsibly then when they crashed and burned, that was their problem, not ours).

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Miserygut@reddit

The current plan is to offload the losses incurred on to US worker's 401Ks by getting these wildly unprofitable AI companies fast tracked on to the NASDAQ100 index. Once they're on the index it forces all of the funds tracking the index to buy those shares, thus shoring up their value:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X6YzlY_8tM

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AnDanDan@reddit

Can't happen soon enough.

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Crotean@reddit

It very will might be this year. Open AI needs another 100 billion in venture capital and it doesn't seem like anyone is gonna give it to them.

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AnDanDan@reddit

Im hoping that this crash will come that soon and it will be the end to the decade of tech rushing that's let nowhere. Crypto, NFTs, AI. All things that were band wagoned hard and are either in the dirt, irrelevant on launch, or about to burst into flames. Ideally too it would result in companies looking at such ventures with a degree more risk, but I know that wont happen.

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brundlfly@reddit

I'll be the first to admit I know bupkis about economics, but I can look at Tesla or Detroit parking lots and see the folly of producing more than the market demands. Marketing only does so much. This sub understands the folly of rushing out immature tech, as well. Big bada boom.

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AnDanDan@reddit

In those cases there is a few problems. Tesla has a bit of a marketing problem these days that cut its potential markets down. The biggest thing is uptake by both consumers and by the world at large. Sure if the public wants a product and it sells, but its something that requires infrastructure and upkeep, you need some sort of buy in from the world to keep it going. See for example any charging station deserts where you simply cant make the trip due to range limitations and no chargers available.

I will never not blame the marketing industry for some many of todays woes.

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brundlfly@reddit

Meanwhile, China is poised to globally dominate with EVs. Plenty of things done right.

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Darury@reddit

You see this repeatedly in food franchises. On the donut front, I watched both Krispy Kreme and Tim Horton's do the massive expansion thing and both fail miserably and shut down after a couple years. When Chick-Fil-A finally opened around me they started with TWO locations on different ends of the metro area. When those 2 were successful, they opened a couple more. They did not open 34 locations all at once assuming the demand would support it.

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sybrwookie@reddit

Krispy Kreme also went from "if we have that Hot Donuts Now sign lit up, that means we just made a batch and you can come in and get a fresh, still hot donut!" to "we leave that sign on most of the time, we'll just microwave a donut for you."

It wasn't just expansion there, it was also enshittification.

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brundlfly@reddit

I gotta say, my first actual fresh KK donut was ^(life changing). I DIDN'T KNOW. Great Googly Moogly.

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Crotean@reddit

For all the rightful shit VC takes, they didn't actually spend that much on crypto and NFTS. The current AI bubble is something we havent really seen in our lifetimes, where normally smart, if evil, people just lose their damn mind based on the sci-fi potential of a technology that doesn't exist and burn hundreds of billions on it. They are acting like we have AGI, which will change the world or possibly kill us all, and we don't. Not even remotely and it's going to explode the global economy.

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sybrwookie@reddit

You say that, but we've watched Zuck alone burn $80 billion on the Metaverse nonsense which absolutely no one wants and VR headsets which went from "has some potential but way too expensive right now" to "this is cheaper, but now is trash" in his...what, decade now overseeing them.

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Crotean@reddit

Zuck isn't a VC company

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SuperDaveOzborne@reddit

"The current AI bubble is something we havent really seen in our lifetimes, where normally smart, if evil, people just lose their damn mind based on the sci-fi potential of a technology that doesn't exist and burn hundreds of billions on it."

I don't know about that, I see a lot of similarities to the dotcom bubble and the lost decade it created.

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Crotean@reddit

The dotcom bubble was too much money rushing into a proven technology that hadnt figured out a business model yet on the enterprise scale. They didn't understand how to fund and build on the Internet yet, but it was clear the technology was there and general people were already seeing it's value, liked the technology and even teenager's were figuring out how to make profitable websites with almost no investment on the non enterprise scale.

None of that is true with LLMs. AGI didn't exist, there is no underlying solid technology that profit can be built from, people hate them and they cost a ton of money to implement and run. All things different from the dotcom era.

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SuperDaveOzborne@reddit

Just because the Internet was a somewhat proven tech a lot of money was thrown at companies that had poor businesses models and tech.

Also while I really kind of hate the LLM tech even i can see the business uses for it. Yes it is overhyped and oversold, but there is a valid tech there that is here to stay unfortunately. Will it be cost effective for all the uses they are promising? No, but they will find some uses it is.

Also I know it's not exactly the same i just think there are similarities, especially with investors throwing money at companies that have no chance of giving the returns they are promising.

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inbeforethelube@reddit

I'm not going to touch on the validity of what these LLM's could become, but as someone who grew up in and through the dot com era, this comment is strikingly similar to ones that were said of the internet.

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AnDanDan@reddit

Yeah Crypto and NFT was its own bubble, an attempt by new money and gamblers to create their own ecosystem as a way to become old money down the line.

The hype around AI is backed by years of artists depictions of what the potential future of this could look like: uber intelligent machines that can do anything. In a cruel twist of fate, one of the current 'use cases' for current AI is replacing these artists, a canary in the cave scenario. There is also the flip side, the 'I want AI to do my dishes' argument that seems to posit that current AI should be able to do that, ignoring that robots to do so would be prohibitive expensive, and honestly less cost efficient than hiring house keepers.

People constantly love to talk about how this is the worst it will ever be again. Maybe youre right, but put it back in the oven for another two decades before you force raw food down my throat thanks.

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Valdaraak@reddit

The bubble will pop as soon as the big investors start demanding a return. Specifically, a return at a level that the industry isn't able to provide. That's when those investors will start pulling their money out and putting it in more profitable areas.

VC firms expect something like 20-25% returns. From what I've read, AI as a whole is expected to hit 7% in a best case scenario within the next few year.

Most places would be perfectly fine with a 7% return. Not VC vultures though.

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Crotean@reddit

And the reality is every time we see some data leak on AI companies it's not a 7% return, it's tens or hundreds of billions spent with zero path to profitability.

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Valdaraak@reddit

Correct.

The profitability path would be figuring out how to make it way, way less resource intensive. This constant treadmill of training the next super advanced logic model costs an absolutely metric shitload of money and resources that it will never recoup before the next one comes out.

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sybrwookie@reddit

It's already started, as we've seen multiple of them shutting down their video services, clamping down on free use, and raising prices.

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colossalpunch@reddit

They haven’t made money yet because they haven’t completely hooked AI up to the ad revenue streams that they make all their other money with yet.

They’re lulling users in right now with relatively unspoiled results, but “sponsored results” are where the real gold mine is, especially as they replace traditional search with AI. People are using AI for all sorts of recommendations from products to full vacation itineraries. Being on those lists is priceless.

And what’s even better is they have high-quality ad targeting data as more and more users spill their deepest darkest secrets to their favorite AI chatbot.

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Miserygut@reddit

https://isaiprofitable.com/ :)

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purplemonkeymad@reddit

At least it's allowed Nvidia to make some money.

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JordanMiller406@reddit

Like Levi Strauss in the California gold rush.

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Crotean@reddit

Ha that's neat.

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Euclid_Jr@reddit

Is this Ed Zitron’s Reddit account lol?

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Crotean@reddit

Ha no, but I do read a lot of Ed. His reporting his incredible.

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vitaroignolo@reddit

I wish this were the case but unfortunately, the c suites are in their positions because they're spinmasters. They will come up with some way to ease the crash and the pain will mostly be felt in the salaries and employment status of those below them. Not a bang, a whimper.

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Ferretau@reddit

It's already making me question whether I want to continue or look for something more beneficial to society like holding a stop sign and controlling traffic.

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rav-age@reddit

grow potatoes

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MechanicalTurkish@reddit

What’s taters, precious?

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american-soundtrack@reddit (OP)

Yeah I certain have some desire to just get out of tech all together but it pays the bills and I seemingly have no other skills

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Greerio@reddit

The most replaceable jobs by AI are the C suite. Wait until they figure it out.

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nutbiggums@reddit

That's when laws are passed to protect them while we get thrown to the wolves

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p3t3or@reddit

Yeah the older I get the more I realize that laws are simply to protect those with money. Full stop.

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BisexualCaveman@reddit

Just like cops....

I love cops, but the way, but the system they work for needs to go play in traffic.

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Cooleb09@reddit

Preach

Everyone wants to say 'fuck the police' but really we all just want to feel safe.

Spend enough time watching body worn camera footage and seeing them having to deal with the dregs of society acting like dangerous and beligerant todlers almost makes you wish for more police brutality.

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sybrwookie@reddit

almost makes you wish for more police brutality

Nope, that's just terrible people who think that....and you.

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Cooleb09@reddit

Nah, go watch some body worn camera footage on youtube.

Plenty of times you just have social trash being violent and non cooperative, and an officer injury could have been avoided if the person had been tazed/made compliant sooner.

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roboticfoxdeer@reddit

Fuck you man

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BCIT_Richard@reddit

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One_Monk_2777@reddit

I wish you put 30 more seconds of thought into why you hate a system but support the people running said system

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BisexualCaveman@reddit

Took a couple criminal justice classes, a few sociology glasses, listen to leftist media daily...

I think about it, I'm just not really able to fix it with my current resources.

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compmanio36@reddit

Think about it though: the system is powerless without the order followers you say you love.

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BisexualCaveman@reddit

I work for similarly evil employers.

Anything else I could do pays half as much.

I'm not equipped for the violent overthrow of the existing authorities so for now, I'm cashing checks so I can afford to sleep indoors.

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Excellent-Chemist-69@reddit

The cops you "love" are a massive part of that system "they work for."

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Nietechz@reddit

Yep, they pay the political career of politicians.

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sdrawkcabineter@reddit

Gotta keep the con artists satiated so they don't instigate a revolt.

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Radiant_Selection-@reddit

And most laws only penalize those that don’t have it.

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fnordhole@reddit

Wilhoit’s Law

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tapwater86@reddit

They may already exist. I remember reading something about how AI can’t replace a CEO because a human needs to be accountable to the board and regulators or some bull. Not that any executive in recent memory has been held accountable for illegal actions of their company.

Of course I’m lazy and never bothered to research if this is true.

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Johnny_BigHacker@reddit

Ultimately, the C suite is who the board of directors interact with. They are the first "on the ground" voice. They will never go anywhere.

AT BEST you are looking at say, the COO absorbing the CFO's role in a failing company trying to stay above water type of scenario.

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pseudoanon@reddit

I mean that's the whole point of a free market. If they're not necessary, eventually businesses that eschew them will eat their lunch.

Obviously we don't have a perfectly free market, but if it's sufficiently free, it will happen eventually.

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thatsmybush@reddit

In that scenario it more likely would be the opposite.

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1stUserEver@reddit

“Mirror mirror on the wall, What is the most replaceable job of them all….Except c-suite”

-Some c-suite probably

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The_Wkwied@reddit

Much like the notion that food, clothing, and shelter are basic human rights, their reply will be 'no no, you don't understand the problem to the question!'

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SpudCaleb@reddit

The ABILITY to obtain your own food/clothing/shelter should be a human right, not food/clothing/shelter as a right outright,

because then you are saying everyone is entitled to something that requires labor to produce and that’s ultimately ends up with some kind of theft or slavery.

The case against these corpos controlling these necessities is never going to get anywhere if we don’t argue the right points.

judges will let corpos own all the water supplies because the case against it was “do all the work and give it to us for free because human rights” instead of “you can’t monopolize and manipulate the limited sources of water.”

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shrimplifier@reddit

The notion that my ability to live somehow requires labour is slavery.

And the theft here is society taking that away from it's most vulnerable. The alternative to this is letting children, disabled people, and the elderly die in the streets. Individualism is inhuman.

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TheRealPitabred@reddit

Yeah, disabled people and others should just die, right? They aren't contributing any value to society, and can't earn anything. Children as well. Never mind that the surplus production that we currently have is more than enough to feed and clothe and house everyone, but it's all being captured by the ultra rich and locked away as a scorecard of wealth and not actually benefiting anybody except them.

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haklor@reddit

Same reason Bezos was just trying hard to reframe the conversation to removing taxes on the median and lower earners and continue to cut spending. They know that taxing wealth is coming but they will fight it every step of the way.

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spid3rfly@reddit

I wouldn't mind a C suite deathmatch as companies across the world.

AI can be the referees.

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StiffAssedBrit@reddit

Not sure how much of an urban myth it is, but I did read an article about a complete who deployed an AI agent to identify people who weren't contributing and issue a redundancy letter. It sacked the entire board!

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Opposite_Bag_7434@reddit

This really is true.

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sccmjd@reddit

Yeah, I heard that recently somewhere too. Feed AI "all the info" and let it pick directions and priorities. Get rid of the CEOs since they won't need those large salaries. Adjust the AI replacement-CEO every few years when it picks a bad direction, just like heads come and go every so many years. The salaries saved will pay for the AI. Plus, the AI is running, processing, and available 24/7 where as a human exec can't possibly perform that much.

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mpbh@reddit

How does an AI schmooze clients?

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ducktape8856@reddit

Which clients? No job -> No disposable income -> No clients. Even if they are B2B only: Some company down the chain sells B2C.

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juicyorange23@reddit

Wait till the *shareholders* figure that out.

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User1539@reddit

I heard an investor saying the idea he's hearing is the CEO has no middle management. Just 'department of 1' people, where those people are so effective because of AI that the CEO can run a business with a handful of people who all act like an entire department of people do now.

Then I started hearing people say 'Department of 1' at work.

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p47guitars@reddit

It's the shareholders that have to figure that out.

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BoysenberryDue3637@reddit

The problem with that is the person who controls the budget isn't going to eliminate their golf buddies.

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kerosene31@reddit

AI might be too smart at this point. Have to dumb it down a little.

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glotzerhotze@reddit

What a joke. If you get to the real problems, your statement needs ro be reversed! AI ain‘t smart! People are smart!

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Phreakiture@reddit

The C-suite's job is to shoulder risk. No AI has that ability. The only thing that can replace the C-suite is a literal insurance policy.

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CaptainZhon@reddit

That is the way it is supposed to work, but the c-suite will throw anyone under the bus but them if the time comes- and if they must resign- they get a nice golden parachute.

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MIGreene85@reddit

That’s cute, the C-suite never takes any risk. The employees take the risk and get laid off when poor decisions are made from the top, then the C suite gets golden parachutes and fail upward.

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ArthurStevensNZ@reddit

Right? Constantly making up lies, sellling them as truth and glazing people non-stop is something that current LLMs do really well.

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lemao_squash@reddit

That's just not true at all.

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sagarpatel1244@reddit

The "replace the team with AI" pitch always comes from people who've never been the one paged at 2am. AI is genuinely useful in IT: triage, drafting docs, summarizing logs, first-line ticket deflection. What it can't do is own an outage, make a judgment call with incomplete information, or be accountable when it's wrong. That's most of the job.

What happens when a company tries "AI instead of headcount":

The easy 60% gets handled, which demos beautifully.
The hard 40%, the real work, now has nobody on it, because they cut the person who did it.
Six months later they're quietly hiring again, after an incident.

The honest framing is AI lets a team do more, not "a smaller team does the same." If leadership heard "we can fire people," they misunderstood the tool. Judgment and accountability don't automate, and IT is mostly judgment and accountability wearing a ticket queue.

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D3k4s@reddit

You're not alone, i got fired precisely because management were not happy about the progress of AI Integration. As if implementing it on top of my responsibilities was something easy to do. Well good luck to the next guy, hope he can figure our fucked up infra without any KB's while at the same time implement an AI tool that's compliant with all the BS.

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Ninjabeaver212@reddit

Our AI guy resigned for what was outwardly explained as personal issues, but we all know that management was demanding way more AI integration than we currently have and he just didn't have the heart to do it( IE automating people out of jobs).

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american-soundtrack@reddit (OP)

I actually have a genuine concern that this is going to happen to me too

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japanfrog@reddit

As someone that at some point was involved in Greek life, c-suite hiring is basically a fraternity get together for a bbq and deciding to hire each other over beers.

There’s a reason c-suite that rise up in the companies stops interacting with us lowly employees. There’s a ‘fit’ they have to abide by.

At my old company a guy that was in our team rose up into an executive position. He became an asshole, started dressing like he was at the Hamptons, and last I heard he demands product visibility.

It’s such a toxic ‘class’ within the workplace that should be eliminated for the long term health of a product. Huge conflicts of interest in there too.

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ParsnipSure5095@reddit

Ai

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eptiliom@reddit

The only moral dilemma is keeping a roof over your head and food for your family. The rest of it can bend in this current situation.

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SemiAutoAvocado@reddit

I am seriously considering taking a pretty evil job over it.

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natious@reddit

The only moral dilemma is beating quarterly earnings estimates and preserving shareholder value. /s

Look, at some point that survivalist mentally is what kills the rest of us. We got to stand up to this stuff together so there's anything left for all of us.

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Street-Telephone9065@reddit

Yes, keep the job for 6 months longer and then lose it to AI…

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eptiliom@reddit

6 months of paycheck with a plan is much better than no months of paycheck.

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draggar@reddit

Yep. 6 months to find a new job. 6 months to network, fine tune that resume, 6 months to learn something...

A 6 month head start can be huge.

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reserved_seating@reddit

Shhhh, you aren’t being negative enough.

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DarraignTheSane@reddit

It's called AI psychosis, and it's gripping much of corporate America at least.

They go to business conferences, lunches, or golfing with their C-suite associates, and they all talk and ask each other about "what is your company doing with AI" with the knowing implication that you absolutely must be doing something with it in order to be a productive org in this day and age of course don't you know, and the ones without much of an answer are looked down upon so they come back with their bruised hyper-egos and have to of course do something with AI so that the next time they're on the golf course with their business bros they have something they can swing their AI dick about.

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ziphyr_@reddit

Tale as old as time even before AI come along.

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apple_tech_admin@reddit

You better listen to those burnout symptoms. I pushed past them for six years and now I’m epileptic af. That doesn’t even run in my family. F**k the suits. Your health comes first.

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User1539@reddit

Oh, definitely.

The term I'm hearing is 'Department of 1'. They want me alone, doing the whole job from provisioning hardware, standing up servers, setting up firewall rules, getting Docker running, building a docker setup, coding the entire project, testing and launching.

Great ... as long as I never get hit by a bus?

I assume they think the next guy will just come in with AI, and be able to do all the maintinence ... and maybe he will?

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Miserable-Text8249@reddit

Fwiw the AI mandate coming from the top almost never has a real implementation plan behind it. Half the time it fizzles out in six months when they realize it doesnt replace headcount the way the board deck promised. The burnout piece is the more urgent thing to address imo.

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Kraft-cheese-enjoyer@reddit

I am in the C suite (startup so head of engineering is also sysadmin) and I am fighting culture like this tooth and nail from the top.

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El_Jeffe_De_Jeffe@reddit

You are not alone in feeling like this. 30 years in the biz, started w/ Netware 3.5, DOS, and Banyan Vines. Burnout & sick of the GREED to AI the 💩out of everything.

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jazzymajority@reddit

the squeeze is real and it sucks, but you're not the one making these calls so don't let it eat you alive. i've watched three shops try the "automate everything and keep headcount flat" play and every single one imploded when the remaining team just couldn't keep up. systems still need actual humans to touch them when stuff breaks at 2am, and no chatbot is handling that yet. your burnout is valid but it's also a sign the company is running too lean, not a personal failing on your end. start looking while you're still employed even if the market feels rough, because staying somewhere that treats you like a cost to eliminate is gonna tank your mental health way faster than job hunting will.

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SpaceChimps98@reddit

I've been through two buyouts for hospitals in the past. When one bigger hospital system eats a smaller hospital system, the upper management is the first weight to be cut. I wouldn't feel safe being higher up in the system.

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Stryker1-1@reddit

Dealing with this daily. Constant ask to do more with less and find ways to cut 10s and 100s of thousands from the budget allows while seeing a new C level employee hired almost weekly

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Tilt23Degrees@reddit

Spend as much money as you possibly can and bankrupt them.

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Valdaraak@reddit

Specifically make sure it's in the highly advanced, frontier reasoning models. Those are reportedly the least profitable for the AI companies to the point where some might be breaking even or losing money at current token prices.

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Zer0CoolXI@reddit

This isn’t a new thing, for sysadmins or workers in general. Suits are always trying to cut corners, pinch pennies and reduce workforce so lines on this weeks/months chart go up. Has been this way since at least the 80’s.

The only thing thats changed is the excuse the Suits use to do it that moment. From dumb buzz words like “agility/agile” to “restructuring”, AI to outsourcing, buyouts and pump and dump.

Thats what separates the suits from us…you see it as a moral dilemma but for them, morality doesn’t even factor into the equation. So do what’s BEST for you, be selfish…start putting out applications while you have a job if your unhappy, its a lot easier than in 6 months when they figure they can drop a few more IT folks in favor of Jan in HR just using an AI prompt to get help.

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OkBaconBurger@reddit

It’s the corporate playbook. Mass layoffs. Won’t backfill. Here is a new C suite hire for leadership and communication. 💯

Oh and your health premiums are going way up.

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ilrosewood@reddit

Yes - my team couldn’t get budget to hire. Then we got a new person in the C suite. Pissed everyone off. I had two people quit. 2 more on their way.

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fnordhole@reddit

Great. Enough money now available to hire two new Executive Assistants to write prompts for your C Suiters.

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theMightBoop@reddit

If only people would pass laws for worker protections and vote in candidate who do that.

All I see is people complain about work conditions and they do nothing about it.

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groundhogcow@reddit

Ride the wave.

AI will do what AI can. IT will create as sloppy code as it does art.

People will make a market for human code.

I never got the discrimination against droids in star wars until suddenly here they are.

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Sobeman@reddit

our whole PMO is just AI now. They consume large amounts of hours on projects just to send out AI transcripts.

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Wolfram_And_Hart@reddit

Do your best and go home.

Give into what every crazy demand they make. Spend thousands of dollars. And then 5 years from now they will hate it, retire, or die. We know what the future hold even if they don’t.