Why do so many Balkan people who move abroad only hang out with people from their countries / other Balkaners?
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Nothing_Special_23@reddit
Though, that's not always the case.
CmdrJemison@reddit
This. I was born in Germany and realized very late how people looked down on immigrants. Had many german "friends".
So nowadays my best mates around are a Greek and a croat.
Salt-Wolverine-6367@reddit
Hmm interesting. Ya in canada and usa they wont really care. If youre visibly “white” then you are not treated any differently than anyone else.
I think over here youre judged much more on how you look rather than your specific country of origin like in europe.
Observe_Report_@reddit
MUCH easier to assimilate in the United States.
CmdrJemison@reddit
Why would someone want to assimilate?
Observe_Report_@reddit
I’m not implying that someone turn their back on their language and culture, but it certainly is inevitable and beneficial to ultimately melt into your new society. To suggest fighting that tooth and nail generation after generation is silly.
CmdrJemison@reddit
I think you mistake integration with assimilation
Observe_Report_@reddit
Integrate is near term but assimilate will happen ultimately, but if we are referencing newly arrived immigrants, as people are discussing in this threat, then integrate
CmdrJemison@reddit
And why should someone adapt to become a school shooter or fent addict
Observe_Report_@reddit
Yes, there are 350,000,000 school shooters and Fentanyl addicts in the US
CockamouseGoesWee@reddit
I disagree. I was born and raised in England and live in Ohio currently. Maybe some ways it is easier, but the US is much more backstabby and uncertain in general.
I'd much rather just have someone call me a greaseball and move on than have someone pretend to be my friend and then say and do things behind my back.
MartinBP@reddit
What you described was my exact experience in England so I wouldn't draw conclusions. After all you grew up in England and have a local experience and accent, while you were a migrant in the US. Two completely different scenarios.
Imperever@reddit
Americans are too politically correct
Timepass10@reddit
Because 'american' is a civic identity whereas many europeans have more of a ethno-linguistic self-conception which leads to exclusion even though they might not tell you that to your face.
jessyDrip93@reddit
that is the classic diaspora trap. the locals will treat you like a permanent guest no matter how well you speak the language or how long you have lived there. eventually you just stop trying to gain approval from people who are never going to give it to you. sticking with your own is just a survival tactic at that point.
MartinBP@reddit
That's only partly true. I've spent a lot of time in Western Europe and while it's true that locals keep to themselves in most countries, a lot of it is also down to culture. Most countries people migrate to are further north (Germany, Sweden) where people in general stop making new friends past highschool/university (sometimes even earlier) and are quite closed off. It also primarily applies to men in my experience. All the women I know who went abroad had no issue being accepted, but migrant men from Central/Eastern Europe/Balkans are treated with suspicion. We also regularly see articles talking about the loneliness epidemic men are facing in the developed world, so the problem is twofold.
Sensitive-Mango7155@reddit
This definitely applies for Europe. I think maybe in the United States it’s a bit different. At least from my experience. In Western Europe I was always a “guest” and was made sure to always know it. In the US I feel like I belong a lot more!
Horror_Chipmunk3580@reddit
It’s definitely a thing in US. Some people just don’t realize it, because it doesn’t become obvious until you step out of your lane and start advancing further than locals. That’s when they start making it clear that you’re not.
I made a comment about it last week and like three people got butt hurt about it. Sure, as long as you’re being useful, being underpaid busting your ass working for three people and “assimilate,”* you’re their “generic white guy”. Step out of your lane, stop being useful or start doing better than them, and your special foreigner status isn’t that special anymore.
Assimilation: You can read about one of most notorious cases of a Balkaner “assimilating” by marrying into US politics, changing his name to sound more American and completely disowning his Balkan identity by order his book on Amazon: Framed, Fucked, and Freed: A Governor's Odyssey— a memoir by former Illinois Governor Rod R. Blagojevich.
CmdrJemison@reddit
Been there, done that.
Gaburski@reddit
One reason I've heard often from people who came back to Bulgaria is money, they go abroad for the higher salaries, do their job, leave, send some back home, repeat. They didn't want to make new friends, just earn for their families. Unfortunately with higher salaries comes higher standard of living so they often come back with less than they had when they went.
foxyvolumnia@reddit
I like that how easy for us to have discussions, to clash ideas, to disagree etc. I actually only realized this is how I communicate after I moved to Germany. It didn't work well with the people I have met here. I guess they felt intimidated or uncomfortable. I couldn't find the input I was looking for. I was craving to hear an unpopular opinon, an out-there idea, an unhinged take... Then one day I have met a Balkan immigrant when I was waiting for a delayed train. On the train, we discussed a lot of things from the current political situation from our countries to being an immigrant in Germany. We had a little discussion about whose country was more corrupt. We even talked about the Gaza genocide which is of course especially difficult to talk about in Germany. It was an unreserved conversation where both of us were genuinely curious to hear the other's opinion. We have become friends and now I have someone to talk to the way I am used to talk to people.
prajeala@reddit
I remember my time when I was studying in Portugal, part of an Erasmus study mobility. I could easily say I blended in the whole realm due to my physical features, but the moment I got in touch with a romanian girl surely felt like a breath of fresh air, since I was able to speak my language once again, not only via video call. As well as having a Bulgarian drive a rented car in the most familiar way possible, with the personal touch not making sense to any other traffic participants.
Dazzling-Meringue810@reddit
I’m Bosnian. My best friends in Canada were an Iranian guy and an orthodox Palestinian.
I have my former Yugo community, but I was raised with posters of Tito so it became harder to stay connected to them when they all cosplayed as super nationalists (Serbs, Croats, Bosnians).
I think immigrants in general stick to immigrants beyond just our own backgrounds.
MartinBP@reddit
It really depends on their cultural background and the country in question, as well as how large the community is. For instance in the UK most migration is Asian and these communities tend to aggressively segregate religiously. Pakistanis and to a lesser degree Indians are infamous for this, but the same applies for instance to Russians in the Balkans, Baltics and Caucasus. Chinese students in Western Europe also do not interact much with non-Chinese. Once the community is sufficiently large to form its own corners in neighbourhoods and open businesses offering services in their native language, the pressure to integrate disappears.
Dazzling-Meringue810@reddit
I agree to some extend. People of colour are often also less socially accepted in white western spaces.
Us Balkans have it much easier than Pakistanis for example.
alii94@reddit
Yea..as an Iranian..this needs to end and people need to assimilate.
Dazzling-Meringue810@reddit
Assimilation is hard. Especially because not everyone has the privilege of living in big cities like Toronto, New York, etc.
Far-Might9290@reddit
Yes, assimiliation is hard especially when the new country offered way more privilege to the locals. Dispite all the language difficulty, there is a lot of envy and pain in this comparison because immigrants see what they sometimes never had and never will have. So many don’t want to loose their pride by assimilating and pretending to fit in. And if you behave the way You truly are, You Most likely will not be accepted or judged. Let’s face it, it feels like pretending.
Dazzling-Meringue810@reddit
Agree
markohf12@reddit
Because when I worked in NL I realized that the convo. with the Swedes/Finns and Czechs about how amazing vegan burgers have become do not hit the same as the convo. with the Bulgarian colleague on what an amazing deal he got on a S63 AMG with 200K KM on it, I realized I fit in with the Bulgarian a lot more.
PecansPecanss@reddit
The small talk I often have to have with Swedes is just so exhausting 😫
Tarothil@reddit
I know. We're socially incompetent by culture and upbringing. I'm married to a turkish lady and only have greek and turkish friends these days. Life is so much better and more fun 🤣
I guess the swedes want to ask you about your real estate plans, their DIY projects at home and complain about house mortgage interest rates and loans?
hubbabubbameqershi@reddit
😂😂
Illustrious-Fly5332@reddit
i mean it is a great deal.
Competitive-Ad1439@reddit
Classic purchase 🤣🤣
Glass-Criticism101@reddit
I know this is the Balkan subreddit so people tend to overplay our similarities, but at least as a Greek, this isn't a case at all. Then again this is probably more so about the Slavic Balkan countries.
colonel_vgp@reddit
Why is Bulgaria also doing the Albanian eagle thing? Do we have the pass, guys?
rrrzrrr@reddit
Yes you can say the Shq-word
Minute_Juggernaut806@reddit
Shaqiri?
Sivbrajt@reddit
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nilastani@reddit
Because they don’t know other languages and/or are not that open towards other cultures.
NanaSD1996@reddit
Honestly, i just find them more fun. I don’t have to be politically correct, we appreciate dark humor, we can relate to one another on many aspects (such as childhood memories, music taste etc.).
MrArmedRobbery@reddit
lol i only have one friend who is from the balkans (serb) and no albanian friends at all
Edepsizhamur@reddit
Real friendships
hubbabubbameqershi@reddit
Because we are the same in every aspect and outside our native borders we play different games, and we like to play with each other.
napstrike@reddit
Racism. Either on our side or the host countries side.
Whit3_Raven@reddit
“*Gansta recognizes gansta*”
New-Suspect-1290@reddit
dats right
Few-Audience9921@reddit
usually they move to western europe, germanic nations, where people are culturally autistic
OilZestyclose6677@reddit
i swear it's not even a cap, and germans are normal when compared to the scandis.
Few-Audience9921@reddit
Ehhhh, maybe a little. But scandis genuinely are like an alien species in social behavior. Like if you ever hung out with them, it's like you don't even exist. They all behave like they are alone, just next to other people.
Esdoorn-Acer@reddit
Also to Slovenia!
Imperever@reddit
Slovenia Central Europe?
Esdoorn-Acer@reddit
Yes that Slovenia
Imperever@reddit
Nice, I heard Bratislava is nice in the summer
Esdoorn-Acer@reddit
It’s beautiful
LorettaDiPalio@reddit
😂😂😂
Remarkable_Pepper281@reddit
That's not always the case. I mean in London where i am rn, a lot of balkaners are friends with tons of ethnicities. It may be different from the rest of Europe im not sure but in London, they dont mind hanging out with other people
Few-Audience9921@reddit
englishmen are different from say germans or swedes
Imperever@reddit
Yes, they tend to drink alchohol way more
Few-Audience9921@reddit
they are also significantly more open
Imperever@reddit
Yeah, English ppl are friendlier than Northern Europeans
loco_mixer@reddit
as a former yugo guy i only see fellow balkaners as ex yu people... i wouldnt be drawn to some greek/bulgarian/turkish person to hang out with.
CollarPlus7786@reddit
My uncle and his coworkers (dutch turkish greek and a bulgarian) formed a language. when they speak among them nobody from outside could understand them cuz it was mix of greek turkish dutch and bulgarian and they were working in germany😂😂
JoJo_1993@reddit
But what if you don’t know about the culture and have trouble to settle in would be awesome if you have friends from same country
Imperever@reddit
Balkaneers don't self-censor themselves and speak their hearts and minds
Westerners tend to be kinda fake, smiling externslly when their hearts ain't smiling internally, very politically correct who get upset with you if you use the wrong pronoun.
Motor_Source7397@reddit
Preach! Westerners are snowflakes and fakes and super individualistic mindset.
Balkans will spit/slap you in the face ("but it's for your own good") but will shelter, protect and feed you every single time you need it, even if you don't want it.
Motor_Source7397@reddit
Because those people actually love and care for eachother, they fist eachother in the face but they love eachother. And that's how it should be, hope it doesn't change ever. Balkan rules!
Many_Independent_243@reddit
Because culturally and behaviorally we are very similar. It's like the case of Latinos in the United States, where they prefer to find someone similar to themselves. It's like a cultural "refuge." As someone who is half Serbian and half Mexican, I can understand those feelings from both sides of wanting to find someone similar to you in another nation with a different mentality and culture.
I studied in Ireland and work in Germany, and I can confirm that my best friends were a Japanese man, a Bulgarian man, and a Croatian woman. Even my ex-girlfriend was Turkish.
bigasslemons@reddit
Because most Germans are cheap and shamelessly ask for handouts, something no Balkan person I’ve met has ever done. My closest friends are from Poland, Iran and Croatia and I like it this way.
snotxgiv@reddit
Funnily enough, here in Belgium, Armenians and Assyrians usually get along the best with Turks. There's this slight tension especially with Armenians but usually in commerce and as neighbors, relationships are pretty okay.
AchillesDev@reddit
In my city in the US, there's a large northern Greek (especially northwestern Greek) and Albanian community. Despite being on opposite sides during WW2 (often, not always), the communities seem to have gotten along really well together, since by necessity each spoke the other's language, often better than English.
AchillesDev@reddit
This isn't unique to Balkan countries. It's much easier/more comforting to be with similar people in an unfamiliar place, especially if there are language difficulties. My grandmother came to the US as a teenager, a refugee from the Greek civil war, like many people in our area, and the Greek community was very strong: entire villages moved to the same city and lived in the same neighborhood together.
In the US, at least, there were two other factors: 1) Greeks (and in our case, also Albanians) hired each other for their businesses, especially in the wake of the civil war. A major bakery owned by a Greek immigrant family in our city hired basically anyone who came as a refugee from WW2 and the civil war, and diners were popular and largely owned by Greeks, and they hired their relatives and countrymen heavily as well. 2) Chain migration is a US immigration policy (and maybe elsewhere), where people can vouch for their relatives and make it easier for them to come to the country and naturalize. For decades my grandfather did this, hired the relatives (usually cousins) in his pizza shop, taught them the business, and once they were confident, they would open their own pizza shop in another town and bring over their families, and on and on. These people worked together, lived together (often the patriarch of a family would buy a "triple decker" apartment building and house the entire family in each of the 3 apartments, as they were built as cheap immigrant housing), and so formed their own insular communities that lasted a few generations.
All of this stuff is almost like a law of nature for immigrant communities, and you see it regardless of the community especially when there is a big language and cultural difference between old and new countries.
HighGlutenTolerance@reddit
The food.
freqiszen@reddit
real people
-Passenger-@reddit
Do they?
MyPlantsDieSometimes@reddit
Been abroad 20 years and the amount of Balkan friends I e had I can count on one hand
-Passenger-@reddit
That people from one country gather in a Cultural Center to keep up some traditions is something that is/was a thing, but I havent seen cross Balkans anywhere
The Croatian Cultural Center in my town was in the same building with the Greeks and we never really had contact.
LorettaDiPalio@reddit
I met a Croatian guy on the train from Munich to Athens many years ago. We went to Athens just for 2 days, for a basket ball game Cibona vs Real. We became friends I went often to Zagreb his sister cam to Vienna and Athens. The kindness and hospitality of the family was unforgettable !! Unfortunately my friend passed but he’s always on my heart.
Substratas@reddit (OP)
One finger for me. 💀
Observe_Report_@reddit
This explains everything.
Substratas@reddit (OP)
So does this.
Observe_Report_@reddit
Not tracking
Township_Roller@reddit
Many do. During my study abroad 90% of all Bulgarians were hanging exclusively with other Bulgariams.
NoFlamingosHere@reddit
We don't.
It's probably easier for folks who don't speak the local language for any reason, but if they do then they generally socialize with other people based on common interests... Like humans do.
LorettaDiPalio@reddit
Studied in Germany and Austria and had friends from everywhere, Greeks among them too. Not only Balkans but Italians French and Dutch had their own microcosmos too, so I think that applies to all nationalities.
UnderstandingCool574@reddit
Because we are fun, we understand eachother and we had similar upbringing so we can also relate to eachother.
begforitnicely@reddit
also there is zero need to explain why you like your childhood home to some guy from midwestern united states who thinks eating yogurt is a personality trait. sticking to your own is just easier when you dont want to spend three hours explaining basic geography to a confused coworker.
No_Magazine_6806@reddit
The proper question is why does people move from any country mainly socialise with people from their home country or close one (like British and Irish etc).
It is universally true in almost everywhere for almost every nationality.
CapabIeToe@reddit
Because nobody else like us 😃
Far-Might9290@reddit
Because we sometimes simply want to be and not just do. With my german friends there are two hours to update or do some Sports or so and then they don’t enjoy the closeness anymore.
bubuguaiguai@reddit
We move for the opportunity to earn. Social life we are used to doesn't exist in most of the countries we move to.
internet-n1k@reddit
I am greek. My close circle are 4 turks, 3 greeks, one Cypriot,2 bulgarians and one albanian. Oh i almost forgot a turk who has the local doner place and ALWAYS gives me another one for free. He doesn't accept no as an answer.
Maisy20207@reddit
I don’t find this to be true from my experience. I moved to the UK as a child and all of my friends I have gained and lost over the years have been from various places, some native English others not . I have never specifically hung out with someone just because they are from my neck of the woods.
Anxious_Lake_5566@reddit
I genuinely find Germans to be xenophobic as hell while I do have German friends and even a German husband, the minute they have a glass too much I hear so many racist jokes, so many complaints about immigrants and so on, and then I’m like “hi guys I’m an Ausländer too” and they’re like “oh no not you” while it’s me too of course. Not all Germans, but many. I have Croat, Serb and Albanian fiends - I’m Serbian and a little Croatian. Albanians hate Serbs in our face, which I appreciate and we joke about it. Germans hate everyone just politely.
w0mbatina@reddit
Everyone else sucks.
Burning_MatchStick@reddit
Me is the Opposite i have only one friend from the Balkans 😅🤷🏻♂️
Minoanatide@reddit
Every nationalities do that when they're abroad.
When trying to fit in a country where maybe you don't know the rules, the language, the culture you naturally connect with people of your ethnicity to get tips, support, job opportunity, cultural events etc ... It's networking. And from that network you make friends
I'm currently in a country I'm not from, and guess what ? Americans do the same, as well as the french, as well as the germans, the sudanese, Chinese, gineans, ....
OilZestyclose6677@reddit
HEY HEY HEY! Don't be racist! Musl-BRI'ISH PARE GANGS HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASSOCIATE!
GoofyRobot@reddit
Why would hanging out with people with similar culture be more fun?
OilZestyclose6677@reddit
You can call your colleague a foaming at the mouth retard unironically and have some beer with the same dude w/o coming off as "offending". Your kid causes a ruckus at the mall? Slap him, it's fine. Also the balkaners won't fall for the obvious psyops: communism, veganism et al.
Cruel19weakness@reddit
you do not have to explain the same jokes or wait for people to get your references every single time you open your mouth. sometimes it is just nice to exist in a space where everyone understands exactly how unhinged the baseline is without you having to translate it for them.
GroggAll@reddit
They don't go abroad because they don't like the people, the culture etc. but because their economy is s**t.
PlayThePlayable@reddit
After 30 years in Italy i moved back to Croatia. My Original Nationality has been a negative argument too many times for too many people. It's useless to debate or to explain. For them you're a stranger that's stealing work to their people. But the last drop that made me decide to went back to Croatia has been when the carabinieri stopped me and treated me like a criminal only because of my Slavic surname...that was too much and Adios.
Timepass10@reddit
Interesting. I would have thought italians would treat croatians better. I've personally never held italians in high regard but some albanians try to act like there's this deep connection between us (which there isn't).
PlayThePlayable@reddit
Yes, i went to Italy when i was 7 and did all schools. After school i worked for 15 years and then i went back to my Country. Connection with Albanians?? I could tell you so many offenses that i heard from SOME Italians versus Albanians...overall back in the nineties when Albanians where trying to escape the Dictature and came to Italy via Sea.
Salt-Wolverine-6367@reddit
well i guess partly because they end up all moving to a specific area lol.
For example in toronto a lot of balkaners moved to one specific region of the city, so they inevitably have to be together and their kids go to school together.
Substratas@reddit (OP)
Which part of Toronto is that?
In Stockholm, it’s mostly people from Africa & Middle East who tend to ”prefer” certain neighbourhoods. Balkaners are spread all over the city.
nghb09@reddit
Rinkeby?
Substratas@reddit (OP)
Salt-Wolverine-6367@reddit
Etobicoke
Relative_Cicada_2487@reddit
I imagine it’s no different than an American and Canadian in Poland being friends. Birds of a feather flock together
Artemis_1944@reddit
shared balkan trauma
Deriviera@reddit
Do you think people who moves into Balkans hang out with locals? Difference in mentality. The knowledge of the local language.
sta6gwraia@reddit
They are all Romans, that's why.
Leather-Hovercraft61@reddit
I hang out with the Balkans :). In the end I think it mainly comes down to us all not being from the city we live in. We all had to get new friends.
phantoms1n@reddit
I dont hangout with anyone from the Balkans, living in Canada for 20 yrs
i_want_shokola@reddit
Im simply Canadian but i need some balkan bros to adopt me lol
phantoms1n@reddit
People think I am Canadian, until they see my first and last name and I have to explain the lack of vowels 😆
i_want_shokola@reddit
xD i guess at the end of the day, we all come from the same continent.
terra_filius@reddit
its how human brains work
Esdoorn-Acer@reddit
That’s also what happens in Slovenia when Balkan people move here. They even speak their own languages.
Imperever@reddit
Slovenia, the Scandinavian country?
Esdoorn-Acer@reddit
Yes exactly
Imperever@reddit
https://youtu.be/C1ihBcrbsmM
Esdoorn-Acer@reddit
Funny! Just don’t take it too seriously 😉
bubba198@reddit
Because they're incapable of assimilating; the immigrant topic of discrimination is a sad excuse and an attempt to avoid the hard questions; it starts with inability to learn, master, and think in another language, it's all downhill from there. It's like a life sentence that very few can ever escape
Imperever@reddit
thus speaketh bubba198, the all-knowing
Creepy-Cherry6231@reddit
Balkan people have 2 things in common: rakia & grill
Michael---Scott@reddit
You can’t get bill grout of balkaner
Imperever@reddit
Village is where eternity resides
Regular_Umpire9420@reddit
Wherever you live if there are immigrants they tend to live closer and hang out and gather with their own especially new immigrants. The children probably more assimilated .. language culture and food usually bring these immigrants closer together
Winter-Flower5480@reddit
Not true, Romanian people often hang out with Polish people abroad. We have common love for barbecue and drinking.
alkorisno@reddit
Germans dont want to be our friends, think we are inferior race
Pmike9@reddit
Because the west is gay duh
RT_456@reddit
Well most immigrants tend to hang out with their own kind. It's not really new or surprising.
DarkBladeSethan@reddit
Clearly you have not seen asians then. Huddle up, live, marry and hire solely on similarly
Substratas@reddit (OP)
What do you mean? One of my closest friends is from Japan and she is married to a Swede.
https://i.redd.it/hdygo8do9o4h1.gif
TheCharalampos@reddit
Fear. Lack of language skills.
Suvigirl@reddit
That's something that all nationalities do. How else would there be little Italy or Chinatown areas in other cities. Many neighborhoods are specifically full of people from the same home areas.
jaleach@reddit
Every group does this when they come to America. It's why there are so many places called Little Italy, Little China, etc. There's a Little Bosnia in St. Louis, Missouri. Assimilation takes a couple of generations to kick in.
ProfessionalShock425@reddit
You wouldn't understand.
Substratas@reddit (OP)
https://i.redd.it/2fspgnydwn4h1.gif
ProfessionalShock425@reddit
Barbak86@reddit
Because we are more similar than we think we are when we are living back home. As soon as you move out of the Balkans, you see the similarities, and it's easier to connect with people that have similar way of ticking, similar humor and so on. I'm ashamed to say, but I've made even Serb friends and acquaintances now. May the Gods forgive me.
Stverghame@reddit
Personally, I'd avoid doing that. Less Balkaners - less drama. Exception would be made for Greeks and Romanians, and of course, my own people.
tilda0x1@reddit
Because we think, act and live the same way?
PartialIntegration@reddit
Apparently they leave the Balkans, but the Balkans never leave them. As much as they insist and exaggerate the differences between us while they are at home, when they meet in a foreign land they realize that our mentalities are ridiculously similar, if not exactly the same. Plus, the locals look down on them 90% of the time.
Longdem1se18@reddit
Because explaining why the neighbor's rakija is better than the local beer takes way too much energy to do in a second language every single time.
nomemory@reddit
Because it clicks. The Balkan behavior is more or less predictable to other balkaners. This gives at sense of safety at a subconscious level.
With western people you need to behave in a certain way, making sure you are not "offending" them, etc. With balkaners you can have a beer and barbecue and speak freely.
krsCarrots@reddit
Outside we da same
Mountain-Yard-928@reddit
You spend time talking about your favourite series with people who have actually watched, don't you?
It's a tad bit more complicated than that but that's the gist of it.
Best-Feature603@reddit
to be honest while I was studying abroad (Bulgarian girl here) I would either hang out with other Bulgarians or with Polish people who were super friendly to us... Poland is still Eastern Europe but not in the Balkan region...
Substratas@reddit (OP)
Polish people have an innate skill to be friends with anyone. They are amazing.
Best-Feature603@reddit
Yes they are lovely people...
I also had a friend from Lithuania briefly but in general from the Baltics were more cold and not as friendly...
I guess we get along best with other Eastern Europeans (and Asians btw) but not necessarily with other Balkan nations... Surprisingly Indians like Bulgarians lol. The French and Italians like us too I think... People from Spain and Portugal were really nice too.
Township_Roller@reddit
because they are dumb
Sharp-Membership-633@reddit
Calling people dumb doesn’t make you look very smart
JoJo_1993@reddit
You will do the same things be honest
Township_Roller@reddit
Of course not
JoJo_1993@reddit
Ok have great day sir
Township_Roller@reddit
You too, brother
Kebabenjoyer3@reddit
Damn what could the reason be
AI_abuser@reddit
Because they can understand each other.
P-l-Staker@reddit
That's what humans do. Conform.
noOB_226@reddit
I don't but during my short trips, I always had other romanians come to me, be it sightseeing or going to the pub for a beer.
I think it feels nice to be able to speak in your own language with someone
OldYogurt7161@reddit
For me Western Europeans especially British represent their feelings in different way, that is why I can not communicate or understand what they feel or think about. By the Way I add Eastern Europeans too to Balkaners in this case.
This is not a cultural thing, this is just we are different human-beings. Belong different society.
Due-Agency-1875@reddit
because they have same culture
MaiZa01@reddit
more similar mentality, easier time 'getting' each other
ephesusa@reddit
It’s same for all cultures
8-exaequo@reddit
Most Balkaners leave their country for economy and job opportunities. I don't think they're leaving their own country because they hate their own people, hence why they're often still hanging out with people of similar culture and background. Their main goal when they go abroad isn't exactly to befriend the locals
Top-Turnip-415@reddit
I don’t usually see that tbh. Aside from some people sticking with their own communities, which I guess is universal Balkan or not.