Why all the 6.5 creedmore hate?
Posted by BidiDuck@reddit | Firearms | View on Reddit | 136 comments
So i recently bought a 6.5 creedmore ar10 and every one of my friends that I've shown it to has told me I wont like it. They say it's not a deer cartridge and that I wont like the bullet trajectory. I should have got a .308 they say. It travels to fast to ne practical they said. I didnt even get this for deer that's what my .270 is for. Just curious why all the hate for the 6.5 creedmore
torrent7@reddit
Youre friends dont understand ballistics
And anyone who says a caliber isnt a "deer cartridge" doesnt know the difference between a caliber, cartidge, and bullet design
There are 6.5 caliber bullets designed for hunting. There is 6.5CM ammo designed for hunting. Your friends are dumb
deathlokke@reddit
270 Winchester has taken so many deer it isn't funny, and that's basically 6.5mm. in short, OP, your friends don't know what they're talking about. Take the 6.5 and show them all up.
BuckHunt3r@reddit
A better comparison would be 243 and 6.5 Creedmore. The 270 has a much longer case.
Aggie74-DP@reddit
Not really. 270's AND 6.5CM pretty much use 129gr and 140gr bullets.
The 243 barely goes over 105gr.
Yea the 270 CAN hold more powder and CAN maybe be 75-100 fps faster. But the 6.5 is going to be all over 2600fps.
IMHO that's why the CM compares better with the 270 than the 243.
BuckHunt3r@reddit
Fair points. My small brain sees the 243 and 6.5 cm as 6 mm bullets with a 308 parent casing, and the 270 as a 30 caliber bullet with a 30-06 parent case. I understand the 270 isn’t quite a 30, but I feel it’s closer to a 30 than a 6mm.
Aggie74-DP@reddit
Wholw there is a little known parent case to the 30.06. That case brought us the 270 Win, the 260 (also 6.5) Remington. The 25.06 and probably a few more in 'long action' . Then there were the series or 'short action' for the 243 & 308. Then later the 6.5 CM. Pretty sure the 6mm CM too! I'm sure there are a lot more.
But ALL those have the same base. It aint funny, but I have a couple of 243 cases that were shot in a long action chamber. There is No Neck showing. Not sure those could have been fired in a .06, a 270 or 260.
So a 243 is mostly the same as a 6mm The 6.5CM is a .264 bullet, ditto the 260. A 270 is .270" in dia. And a 308, 30.06 are 30 cal, .308 dia. Both convert to 7.62mm. Hense the 7.62x51mm
But get this the Brit 303 & 7.62x39 AK round a .311" dia bullets.
Story was the 30.06 became the 308 at military request, because they got the same performance with modern smokeless powders and soldiers could carry more ammo with the same weight.
BandedLutz@reddit
6.5 centimeter ammo for huntering? Hunting what, sauropods?
/s
BarryHalls@reddit
It's this right here.
General the workhorse 30 calibers, 300 blk 7.26x39, 30-30, 308, 30-06, 300 mag, etc perform pretty well for whitetail across a wide range of applications and weights and designs.
With smaller bores and higher velocities you have to be more selective about ammo, but recoil is less and the trajectories are flatter.
No one says .243 isn't a deer cartridge anymore and it has every complaint about the 6.5, magnified.
Neko_Boi_Core@reddit
7.26x39 lol
TURBOWyMiaTaToR@reddit
Don't let fuds know their .30-30 is pretty much the same as 762x39
shit_poster9000@reddit
.30-30, 7.62x39, .300blk, and .300HAMR are all way closer to one another than people are willing to admit
TURBOWyMiaTaToR@reddit
Dont forget brend new .30 Epic
And not gonna lie, they kinda cooked with the name
shit_poster9000@reddit
Just looked that up, interesting… not sure if it will take off, it isn’t the first time anyone’s necked up 6.8 SPC, and offshoots of that cartridge have a history of flopping, but I can’t lie, I’m interested.
sHoRtBuSseR@reddit
To be fair, I've never seen a model 94 in x39.
(it was a gift don't roast me. I do love it)
But also AK go brrrrrt
_Zero_Fux_@reddit
They told me that an ar15 with 6.5 Grendel was the best way to hunt feral hogs. They said you need the ar15 for multiple quick shots. They said don’t bother getting anything else.
I hunt feral hogs with a lever action 45-70 and they’re all in awe of the devastation it does.
DrunkenArmadillo@reddit
Yeah, but have you seen the .45-70 Auto in an AR-10 platform?
Inspi@reddit
If 45-70 can be used to hunt a T-Rex then a boar is no problem.
Leptonshavenocolor@reddit
.458 SOCOM has entered the chat…
IHeartSm3gma@reddit
Nemo Omen Nitemare has kool-aid manned himself to the chat
sat_ops@reddit
I've wanted an Omen for a long time.
Unfortunately, I live in Ohio, where they think bottleneck cartridges mean ricochets and 600 yard shots with no backstop, and my local range maxes out at 600 yards.
Several_Mousse_9485@reddit
I've considered a 458 build and I keep getting closer.
Leptonshavenocolor@reddit
I just bought the parts to do a SBR one myself. No need for it, just living in a state that’s banning stuff so I had to get in everything I could think of.
grivooga@reddit
I've had a 450 Bushmaster for a while. I've never used it for anything practical but it's amazingly good at spreading watermelon seeds.
S7eveThePira7e@reddit
You know... I have a spare reciever set laying around.... dammit.... you just cost me a lot of money lol.
Leptonshavenocolor@reddit
Make sure it’s a big mouth.
_Zero_Fux_@reddit
lol i'm good with the 45-70
duffchaser@reddit
boomers
TurboEncabulator_1@reddit
Fudds that don't like "small" calibers. The same type of people that call .223/5.56 a "poodle shooter" and say .30 carbine would bounce of of wool coats.
Ignore your "friends". 6.5 is great.
_jubal_@reddit
How many 170lb humans have been killed by 556? A lot
Inspi@reddit
Seriously. If it can drop a 170lb dude in military gear at 300 yards it can handle the 140 lb or whatever deer at 100.
jking7734@reddit
I like to say if it’ll drop a white boy itll work for white tail… js
_QUICKDRAW_GODSPEED@reddit
Lol .556 is one of the more devastating rounds to a person, same concept as 545 x39 compared to 7.62, 545 actually kills people more effectively due to the amount of energy it dumps inside the target compared to the piercing power of 7 62
caboose001@reddit
“Bounce off of a wool coat” at that point the easiest argument is to tell them to put a coat on, go down range and let you pop off a few rounds lol
Perfect-Dimension356@reddit
"It shoots too flat, you won't like it" is the fuddiest take I've heard in quite some time.
-UserOfNames@reddit
Next thing you know, your steak will be too juicy and your lobster too buttery
Chrisscott25@reddit
I ask my boss to keep half my paycheck because too much money in my bank account is bad…
jking7734@reddit
Funny I’ve never had the bank call me to come get some of my money out because I had too much in there ! But I’m waiting lol
rmp881@reddit
Damn, wanna come work for me?
Chrisscott25@reddit
Only if you can promise slave wages with none of that cooperate bs like overtime, vacation, 401k or bonuses.
Fluffy-Map-5998@reddit
youll be salaried at those wages so you can work unlimited amounts of overtime without getting any extra money, ill even make you pay for your own health insurance
rmp881@reddit
Bitch, I'll make you pay me for the privilege of working.
Alita-Gunnm@reddit
Oh no! My chocolate cake is too chocolaty! It's far too moist and delicious! What ever shall I do?!
Jaruut@reddit
I shot one for the first time at an event a few weeks ago at about 500 yards. I aimed slightly higher than the target to guage the drop, and it was like a laser beam, nailed all 3 shots. I'm fully sold, I don't get the hate.
shit_poster9000@reddit
Same folks would probably bitch and moan about how much .300BLK and HAMR drops at 300 yards as an excuse for why they make shitty hunting cartridges.
Stielgranate@reddit
Many people over look the .260 Rem.
I don’t hate the 6.5 creedmoor but wont ever buy one. The variety of .30 cals I own cover everything I need to do and then some.
thereddaikon@reddit
Huh, weird. Would you look at that?
6.5 is excellent on deer. Bullet selection trumps caliber here. There's good bullets for hunting and bad ones. I wouldn't use an OTM meant for match shooting on a deer. But I wouldn't use a hunting soft point for a match either. Your buddies are idiots. Ask them to explain what makes a 243 and a 30-06 good for deer but a 6.5 bad. They probably can't.
YERAFIREARMS@reddit
Find a new friend
Weird-Passage155@reddit
I mean, it’s a perfectly capable rifle for killing deer with the right ammo. I’ve noticed that 6.5CM rifles feel a bit more ammo sensitive than .308 rifles.
I don’t like 6.5CM mostly because it’s boring to shoot at easily accessible ranges. I fully accept and agree that it’s a better cartridge than .308, but that makes it a bit boring. For competition or 800+ yds, I reach for 6.5CM, for fun I reach for .308 (for the reasons that make it a worse cartridge)
Waallenz@reddit
I absolutely prefer my 6.5 CM over my .308. If the barrel wear was even close to equal between the 2 id think about selling my 308 off and only shoot the 6.5. But its not, and i put an expensive Proof Research barrel in my 6.5, so i only bring it out a couple times a year and primarily shoot the 308 to tickle my long range shooting itch.
Icelock@reddit
quickscopemcjerkoff@reddit
6.5 cm is a great deer round. Of course you need to use hunting ammo, and leave the match target ammo for ringing steel at long range. It’s a great round with manageable recoil, flat trajectory, and plenty of velocity and bullet weight to take medium sized game. There are few downsides to 6.5 creedmoor for target shooting and deer hunting.
Your friends and family are just scared to admit that better options have shown up since they invested in whatever calibers they use.
JDubbya2@reddit
My nephew started hunting a couple years ago and got nothing for two years. My brother owned 2 30-06 for hunting but my nephew wasn't able to handle those comfortably. We all went to the range and he handled 6.5 just fine and took it hunting that year. 2 for 2 in hunting seasons now and he wants to keep it cause it's lucky lol
JackFuckCockBag@reddit
Shoots too flat is wild. I wonder what his reasoning for that is.
bikumz@reddit
A lot of people find they don’t like 6.5 because they’ve shot with 308 their whole lives. Switching calibers is tough.
But they are right, it’s not really a deer cartridge. That doesn’t mean it’s bad, just means it’s a bit overkill compared to 308 due to effective accuracy lol
smitbret@reddit
That's just silly. What makes a bullet a "deer cartridge"?
bikumz@reddit
A deer cartridge would be a round that wasn’t designed for long range precision shooting lol
Most deer in this country isn’t taken at even at half the range where the advantages of 6.5 creedmore shine.
smitbret@reddit
OK, I think I understand now.
The 6.5 CM can take down a deer up to 300 yards just as easily as a .270 or .308 so that makes it "OK".
But we have to consider that it will actually do a better job at taking down that deer at 500 yards and that makes it "Not a Deer Cartridge". What?
Someone should ask the deer.
Nostalgia is a helluva drug.
bikumz@reddit
Sigh man. You’re not getting it and that’s cool. Crack is one hell of a drug. It’s early man relax.
smitbret@reddit
You haven't given me a single reason that makes any sense why it isn't a "Deer Cartridge".
bikumz@reddit
Idk man, you’ve edited your comment like 4 times now adding and taking out paragraphs. Makes it kinda hard to respond to anything you say.
smitbret@reddit
I did one edit
Anyway, give me your concise reason(s) why 6.5 Creedmoor is any less of a "Deer Cartridge" than something like a .270 or .308.
"It wasn't designed as a deer cartridge" isn't one of those reasons.
bikumz@reddit
Man lots of edits still coming is crazy. You can say one, think I saw at least 2, and then 1 or 2 on this comment I’m replying to. Kinda wild not gonna lie. Just leave it let me respond kiddo.
Real world it’s literally just not suited for deer. I’m not sure how many have even killed deer at the distance where the better ballistics comes into play. That’s why it’s not a deer cartridge to me. Can it take deer? Sure. Is it a round most people should consider for it? No, and that’s just what it comes down to. Using the term deer cartridge to refer to the rounds well suited for deer and the kinds hunting it brings.
300 blackout is my hunting round of choice. No way I’m calling that a deer cartridge despite using it as such.
hafetysazard@reddit
Not too fast, not too slow, and has the right bullet weight construction to penetrate well. There is nothing inherently off about 6.5 creedmoor that would make it unsuitable, in the least.
It is more of a target cartridge, and some of the high bc cup and core, “hunting bullets,” are less suitable than purpose built hunting bullets. Just use bonded bullets, or copper expanding monolithics, and you’re good to go.
smitbret@reddit
Naturally. There is nothing more frustrating than having my bullet go too straight and arrive at the deer too quickly.
This reminds me of that scene in Major League where a ball is hit and is obviously going to be a home run and one of the fans is arguing "No, it's to high" and the other fan is like "Too High? What is that?"
hafetysazard@reddit
Accuracy isn’t the issue at all, it is what the bullet does to the deer when it hits it.
smitbret@reddit
And what doesn't 1600 lb/ft of energy from an ELD-X not do to a deer that you need it to do.
hafetysazard@reddit
Stay in one piece.
smitbret@reddit
So you are saying that the 6.5 Creedmoor does more damage to a deer at 300 yards than a .308?
hafetysazard@reddit
No.
rationis@reddit
Certain special number combinations. For example "243" is a deer cartridge, but "6.5" isn't because 243 is a bigger number than 6.5. So we must logically conclude that bigger number mean better.
smitbret@reddit
Duh, why didn't I notice that.
Hopefully I knocked some sense into myself
TURBOWyMiaTaToR@reddit
I need every bit of mechanical accuracy to compensate my lack of skill xD
PanixButton@reddit
My only qualm with 6.5 is the cost of ammo in conjunction with the barrel life compared to a .308.
Bortjort@reddit
I thought the cost of hunting/match rounds are about the same for 6.5 creed and 308 these days
PanixButton@reddit
I don't have a lot of insight into hunting, but it's pretty close for match (within like 10-15 cpr).
1Crusty_Old_Man@reddit
Your friends are idiots, why do you hang out with them?
GreenJavelin@reddit
You only have highly intelligent friends that you agree with on everything?
I argue with my closest friends much more than acquaintances.
lil__squeaky@reddit
6.5 is great for its designated purpose, long range target shooting, sure you can use it for deer just like you can use .223 for deer. it just isn’t the best option.
TN_REDDIT@reddit
I dont understand why folks are down voting your comment. It's not the "best" That doesn't mean it's not adequate or good.
Flazer@reddit
People like to be contrarian
TN_REDDIT@reddit
not always :-)
rocketstovewizzard@reddit
It'll do what you want as long as you don't expect it to be a 30-06. Very effective an efficient caliber that's pretty close to the 260 Remington. Enjoy it and don't worry about the haters.
BidiDuck@reddit (OP)
I honestly dont plan on using it for any kind of hunting. I just seen it for under half price and I dont have anything in 6.5 so I was like I'm buying lol
Averagecrabenjoyer69@reddit
If you don't plan on using it for hunting then ignore the critiques and enjoy.
Averagecrabenjoyer69@reddit
I mean for target shooting or competition its great. As a hunting round its quote controversial. Also people got sick and tired of the 6.5 cultists pushing it as the end all be all caliber to end all calibers from 2020-2023 during the long distance shooting craze, when frankly not only was that not true but there's calibers out now that outpace the 6.5 in both hunting and target shooting.
_QUICKDRAW_GODSPEED@reddit
Well maybe it's not for deer..
whiskey_tang0_hotel@reddit
6.5 CM is great. I run it for PRS. It gets a lot of hate in that circle because it’s not just 6mm. Fuck em - I can shoot the balls off a fly from 1,000 yards out with my setup.
.270 is a great hunting round. 308 is a classic. I shot it for years before switching - moving to 6.5 was like putting in a cheat code though.
BidiDuck@reddit (OP)
I might use it for hinting idk yet. I gotta get more time with it
whiskey_tang0_hotel@reddit
My sniper partner swears by it.
There’s a lot to be said about standardizing on one specific round. That helps you memorize your dope, master recoil, and be hella accurate.
-Damn_It_Bobby-@reddit
Do it. I've shot everything from coyotes to deer to hog and have no complaints other than my choice of rifle. 1 shot 1 kill and very little tracking.
I was hunting with an M1a and wanted a lighter rifle to carry longer distances. Where I messed up is I bought a rifle unseen and it ended up being a bull barrel, so much for lighter, but in the end it shoots soooo nice.
smithywesson@reddit
I don’t think it’s fair to say the PRS crowd hates on it…tons of people run this cartridge and it’s experiencing a resurgence as equipment and recoil control techniques improve.
whiskey_tang0_hotel@reddit
Not long ago it caught hell for not being gay tiger or 6mm barrel burning creedmoor.
The PRS lot can’t ever keep their minds made up.
BAHGate@reddit
This is true almost all the rifle competitions I see 6.5CM is the winner or at least top 3.
Ancient-Bat8274@reddit
…I shoot 6.5 cm😭
AnEvilToastyBagel@reddit
So in the south we call this “deer armor” if you hang around the game check station you will hear dudes taking about how anything less than a belted magnum is an ineffective deer load. Cause you know, the deer wear armor. In reality, it’s cause they can’t shoot for shit and need the hardest hitting cartridge possible due to poor shot placement.
My brother and I have taken a whole herd of deer over the years with 11” AR15s in 5.56 pushing Barnes TSXs using neck shots. Like flipping a light switch. 6.5Cm is more than sufficient for deer.
shit_poster9000@reddit
Jesus that would be loud as shit without earpro lol.
There are folks who bag deer with 5.7x28mm out of handguns, and if you go perusing through old newspapers, you’ll find articles talking about county record bucks taken with various flavors of .22 and .32 rimfire.
AnEvilToastyBagel@reddit
We run them suppressed. It takes the edge off, but it is far from quiet.
greyeyedsniper@reddit
There's a certain subset of folks that want nuclear level power for deer cartridges. I assume they've winged animals in the past and blamed their wounded animal on the arrow rather than the archer. Someone I know went to some absurd cartridge after this experience, I think he's shooting 450 bushmaster now.
sat_ops@reddit
I when Ohio legalized it, I switched to a 450 BM. Even a marginal shot dropped a deer in its tracks, but the recoil was a lot. I switched to 350 Legend. I started with Federal soft points and never tracked a deer less than 75 yards, even on textbook shots. Switched to Barnes TTSX two years ago and a heart shot still went 50 yard this year (open field), but it was less "let it bed down and die" and more "she had some adrenaline". Before I found the TTSX, I was about to go back to 450 just because I'm only hunting on 75 acres and one of the neighbors is not friendly to recovery.
greyeyedsniper@reddit
Gotcha. Yeah I think that's what my buddy was hoping for, just the no question bomb that he could drop at will. He moved from a shotgun only state and was I think used to slugs and sabots at short distance. I forget what he down shifted into, but I bet it was a bigger drop in performance than he'd anticipated.
Traveller7142@reddit
Sorry, but your friends are stupid
shit_poster9000@reddit
6.5x55mm Mauser’s popular for hunting moose in Scandinavia for a reason. Bullet selection might not be as great here in the US compared to 7.62, but they’re about as well proven on more dangerous game than whitetail.
You’d think more people would put respect on the projectile size, given how much Arisaka’s made our ancestors bleed, but alas…
JustSomeGuyMedia@reddit
“It travels too fast to be practical”
…Huh?
2MGR@reddit
My bullets too fast, my powder burn too efficient.
Extra_Drop_6081@reddit
that could potentially cause problems though
JustSomeGuyMedia@reddit
My ballistic coefficient too good.
Aggie74-DP@reddit
Ballistics are real close the the 270 and heavier/almost as fast as the 243. Bith of which have been Whitetail deer guns for decades.
garandruger@reddit
Myself I don’t care for 6.5 Creedmore but understand why people like it. It’s a good cartridge but I think it seriously gets overglazed for all the more it is and how other cartridges seem to already do what it does except the fact that it’s a short action cartridge for bolt actions and can work in AR10 type rifles as well as being able to use some heavier bullet weights which I guess is more of the big deal
I’m still a die hard .308 guy more so because I grew up around the .30cal battle rifle when I was getting my start into shooting so it might be a bit biased. Plus I live in SW Pennsylvania where there really isn’t much places to shoot 6.5 Creedmore at to really take advantage of it especially when most rifle ranges only seem to go out to 300 yards at best. Yea it’s easier to shoot small little steel plates at those distances but still
BigBack313@reddit
I love mine and looking to pick up a 22 creedmoor
evagnier@reddit
Invite em to a long range match/ shoot. Opinions change quickly on 6.5 when distance is added
xxmadshark33xx@reddit
6.5 creedmore is great, I just don’t shoot it because .308 is good enough for my needs. The improvement in ballistics isn’t big enough for myself to justify stockpiling another ammo type.
imneuromancer@reddit
.308 is a great cartridge and is cheaper than 6.5 creed. But if you have the money to spend shooting it, then 6.5 creed is pretty great.
Not sure where "you won't like it" comes from, that is weird.
TURBOWyMiaTaToR@reddit
They can blame their missed shots on the mechanical inaccuracy of the rifle lol
BidiDuck@reddit (OP)
Welcome to my friends lol. No idea what any of them mrant hence why I asked here lol
TURBOWyMiaTaToR@reddit
Ask them about all the game killed by bring back 6.5 Arisakas after WW2
N5tp4nts@reddit
Your friends are dumb, and it is spelled Creedmoor.
-UserOfNames@reddit
*Creedmoor
NNTPgrip@reddit
IDK, I too have a rifle in 6.5 Manbun. I bought once and cried one with an MPA.
Generally I have something long range to generally learn the skill, but I sort of look at as combining all the boring of fishing with math.
Shoot what you like. Or, I like what Ben Stoeger said, "Shoot what you are excited to shoot" Whatever gets you motivated to train/compete/hunt so it doesn't just collect dust in the safe.
ZacInSC@reddit
The 6.5 Creedmore is very similar and slightly superior to the 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser, which if my memory serves me correctly, has historically taken more moose and stag than any other cartridge in Northern Europe and Scandinavia. If it’s good enough for Moose, it’s good enough for deer. Just select a cartridge with the right bullet for the job, and you’re good.
Ok_Rub_4962@reddit
If you read Jack O Connor you will see that 100 years ago people had the exact same hate on a .270 Winchester. It did ok. Bullet selection for purpose is key. The 6.5 creedmore has its place. It’s designed to be a long distance rifle. But with a bullet like an ELDX or a Barnes LRX it’s an excellent hunting rifle. If we listened to grouchy old men we would only have a 12gauge , a 22 and a 30-06
cobrakai15@reddit
I have a .300 wsm and took a 6.5 axis off my dad’s hands, I’d dear hunt with the 6.5, I use the .300 wsm cause it’s really steep and I don’t want to follow blood trails. My uncle killed many a deer with a .243 Remington (the old one where the safety may or may not work) I’ve also known a couple guys to shoot them behind the ear with a .22 mag but those are a special breed of hunter/country boy.
PooC-Masta@reddit
Most people I know that hunt whitetail have a spot 40-80yds. 6.5 is way too much for them. I have out to 400yds and still use my .308 religiously without issue. The 6.5 I use for varmints and targets. Flawless for both but not needed for deer.
Remarkable_Attorney3@reddit
I run 6.5 to poke the same hole in paper at 600 yds. Who cares about deer?
Strong-Platform786@reddit
After seeing what a 22 hornet will do to a cow at 50yards with a barnes bullets. I fully believe a 6.5 is enough, with the right bullet, range, and a good shot
smallmonzter@reddit
Your friends are just repeating shit they read. Do they have a 6.5 they hunt deer with? Probably not so they use no ACTUAL EXPERIENCE. The Swedes have been shooting moose and caribou for over 100 years with 6.5 caliber bullets. It works. I’d trust the word of literal thousands of Swedes against three of my dipshit friends any day. 🤣🤣🤣 Not because Swedes are great. I just hang out with goobers.
Warrmak@reddit
When it comes to marksmanship, the Swedes have a pretty good track record.
wiltchamberlain1356@reddit
6.5 cm is a solid round that is very common in long range target and game hunting (not as common as 308, but still very common) and is very capable or else it wouldnt be such a commonly offered cartridge in hunting rifles
Beebjank@reddit
My only gripe with it is the wear it has on barrels. Barrel life on them is incredibly short to say 308. But it’s more effective at distance than 308.
Dragonnuttz@reddit
Squirrel_Works@reddit
" That there's a darn gimmick sonny"
Drummer123456789@reddit
6.5 is a common bullet size in Europe and Japan. A lot of people and animals died to 6.5x55 and 6.5x50
MediocreVibrations@reddit
First buck I took was with a 6.5 Ruger American Predator. Also took a wild hog with it. Both 200+lbs on the hoof, in one shot, at approx. 150 yards. You’ll be fine.
vostokvanguard@reddit
This feels like engagement bait… But just in case, one of the reasons is that .308 has been around since the 1950s while 6.5 Creedmore was introduced in the 2000s. People tend to be loyal to what has already been established and used by multiple militaries in multiple conflicts.
I’d love to build a 12.5 6.5 creedmore pistol lol
WiseDirt@reddit
By that logic, you'd think we'd have more companies building stuff for 8mm Mauser
BidiDuck@reddit (OP)
Mine is a 22 inch barrel ar10 by stag I got out for a grand
Guarder22@reddit
Your friends are fudds, fudds hate anything different. 6.5, 308, and 270 are all excellent deer cartridges and 6.5 is pleasant to shoot and is very flat shooting at long ranges.