Riders who have tried multiple styles...
Posted by odix@reddit | ebikes | View on Reddit | 15 comments
What would you say is the best all around bike to choose? I love my tiny $200 bike to get around, just doesn't handle bumps well. My new fat tire is ok. I am now leaning on returning the fat tire and getting a mountain bike style.
I will not ride anything below 120nm or a 20ah battery, learned my lesson. I weigh 220.
What size engine should I be shooting for and torque? I want something that will immediately track a high grade hill from a stop. Dual hub is the way I may go next.
RichGuarantee7482@reddit
You didnt mention the budget.
NewspaperMuted6858@reddit
You have actually fallen into the classic trap of chasing massive raw spec numbers because your previous budget bikes couldn't handle hills, but a dual-hub setup is actually the exact opposite of what you need. Hub motors operate completely independent of your mechanical gears, meaning if you try to dead-start a 220lb rider up a steep grade from 0mph, a hub motor operates at peak inefficiency and essentially turns all that battery power into heat rather than forward motion. If your genuine goal is to effortlessly launch up a steep hill from a dead stop, you absolutely must abandon hub motors entirely and buy a **Mid-Drive** electric mountain bike. A mid-drive motor directly leverages your physical rear gear cassette; if you shift down into first gear, an 85Nm mid-drive will completely obliterate a 150Nm hub motor on a hill climb because it is mechanically multiplying its torque through your gears. A traditional mid-drive hardtail mountain bike (running standard 29-inch tires instead of sluggish, heavy fat tires) is the undisputed king of "all-around" bikes because it rolls incredibly fast on pavement, absorbs bumps beautifully, and gives you raw, tractor-like pulling power from a dead stop on any hill!
odix@reddit (OP)
thank you for this answer
Applecity82@reddit
I have a emtb for when my son and I go on actual single track mtb trails. We have city e-bikes for when we ride gravel or paved. Don’t get a mtb for paved or gravel. It wouldn’t make sense, would be like taking a 4-wheeler down the highway. It runs but definitely not ideal
massiv_deuce@reddit
I prefer doggystyle
cj191@reddit
And does he prefer that too?
Duke_SuperNova@reddit
Massive_deuce surely has to be a guy 💩
Superb_Raccoon@reddit
It was supposed to be massive_douche
Sypsy@reddit
Got a velotric discover 3 recently. Very comfy, lots of zoom
I don't like fat tires, suspension seat post included, great features.
Velotric Summit 2 for more torque, but 75nm is plenty for me and I weigh 195 right now
Relative-Display-676@reddit
OP, go try lightweight emtb. And when I say lightweight, I mean a bike under 40lbs. You will notice that you'll be riding on air even if you don't have dual hub motors or 120nm torque. Sometimes handling is more important and that's where the premium price tag comes in.
mellofello808@reddit
I have tried several styles of a ebikes. 3 fat tires, a mountain, and a commuter style. All of those had their ups and downs.
I am now riding a Giant yamaha mid drive with 650b wheels, and paniers. It is just about perfect for me. It rides like a regular bike, requires effort to move, but provides just enough assistance to allow me to arrive to a location without being sweaty even in the depths of summer.
That is exactly what I was looking for.
EMTBs are awesome, but they are not ideal for riding on the road in my experience.
Electronic-Habit8679@reddit
After trying a few styles, I'd take a decent hardtail MTB over a fat tire bike for most riding. Better handling, less rolling resistance, and still plenty comfortable with the right tire pressure.
RazzmatazzEastern786@reddit
What kind of riding is this for? A mountain bike makes for a crap commuting/run around bike...
I am 225lbs and live in a hillt place and have no problems with an 85Nm mid-drive motor. Have not lacked power or climbing ability yet and I ride often with 90-100lbs of kids and another 50lbs of our crap...
EmmaBell553@reddit
If you’re leaning MTB style, you’re probably heading in the right direction already it’s usually the most balanced platform for what you’re describing.
Worried_Document8668@reddit
e-gravel and hardtail e-mtb in the 100-120mm travel range, both equipped with rack and fenders, are probably the most allround bikes you can have and further customize with tyre choice.
pick a mid-drive that matches your fitness level and off you go on any hill.
400-800w peak and about 50-90nm will cover anything(cargobikes notwithstanding)