Please dont tell me im the only one who has ever done this...
Posted by Large_Cap55@reddit | flying | View on Reddit | 64 comments
Im a student pilot with about 10 hours. This happened few days ago when i was making my initial call for taxi clearance with ground.
The airport that i fly out of was redoing the taxiways, and i would have to cross the runway to get to the other side which was in use. After i made my call for taxi clearance atc almost immedietly gave it, unfortunately it wasnt for me, it was for someone with a very similar tail number, who was trying to do almost the same thing.
So i read back this clearance as soon as possible and without really thinking, only for my instructor to tell me that that call wasnt for us and then atc said "i dont know who replied to that but that wasnt for you".
I apologized when i requested taxi clearance again and it wasnt a big deal but please tell me im not the only one who has replied to the wrong call.
sniper4273@reddit
It's happened to basically everyone. Almost a daily occurrence to someone up in the flight levels.
nitrowired@reddit
Specially frequent in a zone where your company has a lot of traffic with almost same callsigns
insomnia657@reddit
This is why I don’t really like using the company call signs. It’s like ya if there’s four of us up here, and we’re all called Company 32, Company 23, Company 43 and Company 33, then hell ya we’re gonna accidentally reply to each others calls brother. Is this some kind of SICK JOKE!?
PilotBurner44@reddit
Had a real shit show in LAX late one night when us and another company aircraft had similar call signs (791/719). They were giving out full clearance reroutes on ground frequency while also running ground ops. Company took our clearance, ATC gave us their taxi instructions (which didn't make sense to us), it turned into a major cluster fuck. Finally the controller told us to wait, he'd get company out to the runway and then come back for us because things just weren't working.
Similar call signs and tail numbers are a problem at every level and it seems like something that could be easily dealt with.
jusgonnasendit@reddit
I mess up sometimes so badly that I need to apologize on frequency as well and start over even with a thousand hours. It happens to everyone. I do reiterate to all my students that you should NEVER move the airplane (especially while holding short a runway) unless you are certain you know what you’ve been instructed to do by ATC. If in doubt, ask.
hakisbak@reddit
Listen mate my ~800 hour CFI picked the wrong airport beacon on a night XC and were it not for flight following and coming the right direction, we may have busted Langley's airspace. Mistakes happen because pilots are human.
Mike93747743@reddit
On my initial OE years ago, I must have crapped on every single frequency at Denver Intl when I got my switching panel screwed up. Like throwing gasoline on a fire. It happens.
lnxguy@reddit
Happens all the time. When I was a student, it was the golden age of flying and there were always five or six Cessnas in the patterns and we got mixed up regularly.
rkba260@reddit
Homie, I've done it as recently as last month and I have thousands of hours flying 121.
Mega-Eclipse@reddit
That has never happened to me...
What I did was totally different....I was flying to another airport...and proceeded to call in to that tower with my tower's name...THEN I answered a someone else's radio call (so tower had to say, that wasn't for me).
So, what I did was completely different.
Last_Koala9340@reddit
That’s nothing. One time when I was a mechanic we were taxiing around LaGuardia one night talking to Kennedy tower.
lexicon_music@reddit
Absolutely not a big deal, and as previously stated it happens to everyone. You specifically did EXACTLY what you should have by reading back the clearance with your callsign. Nothing to be embarrassed about, in fact you should feel good that your read back prevented you from actually taxiing without clearance - THAT would have been a problem.
cincocerodos@reddit
I used to regularly do a trip that had sequential flight numbers for 4 legs, then eventually they changed the last leg to something else and another crew was doing the flight number that was the last in the number sequence. Definitely took their handoff one time and came back to the original frequency to some confusion.
CaptMcMooney@reddit
shrug, it happens.
you should really be paranoid, if you ever feel there's something off, please check.
there was a time i was flying and two different aircraft were responding to atc due to the tail numbers being extremely sim, was even the same type of aircraft. ATC didn't catch it, Pilots didn't say anything, no one even noticed till i mentioned to ATC you have two ac replying.
tldr be extra paranoid esp in busy airspace
areoman99@reddit
Didn't have this scenario happen, but was told by ATC "frequency change approved sqwauk VFR." I acknowledged and said good day. I totally forgot to change frequency to the uncontrolled airport I was landing at. It was only after I gave my position, and intentions that I heard a familiar female voice say "cherokee 6919W you are still on my frequency. Frequency change approved, sqwauk 1200." I became a tomatoe, and acknowledged once again and made sure to change frequency. I looked dead at my CFI and he said "I was hoping you'd pick up on it without my guidance." I never told him Samuel L Jackson was screaming MOTHERFUCKER in my head, but you best believe that landing was smoother than a babies ass lmao
TemporaryAmbassador1@reddit
I hear professional pilots and ATC mix up similar calls during almost every flight. You’re good Mr student pilot.
justarandomguy07@reddit
Hey, you only have 10 hours. It happens. On my long solo XC I read back instructions approach gave to another plane.
Ancient-Dust3077@reddit
i read back radar contact on my first long solo XC
justarandomguy07@reddit
On one of my first flights to a towered airport, I said "[airport] traffic, N12345 clear 26." It was embarrassing lol. My CFI took over and made a proper taxi request with ground.
Pure-Suspect-8890@reddit
I used to read back ATC position reports for other aircraft they were telling me about in the pattern
konperson@reddit
Had a ppl student on course with me in a da20 read back vectors given to an air Canada 737 with the 737 callsign in his readback instead of his own. I'm certain what you did happened multiple times on that course and I don't remember those stories, so I really wouldn't lose sleep over it.
ReflectionLarge2719@reddit
I have 300 hours, and read back taxi instructions for another plane while still on the ILS…
It happens, it’s why we read back instructions
I_ALWAYS_UPVOTE_CATS@reddit
I have done this in the jet before when someone else got assigned a heading. Tbh I can't remember who was actually PF at the time but neither of us realised until after we'd started turning.
felixzer0@reddit
If you are already managing the radio by yourself at 10 hours, you are doing really well. Making mistakes is part of the learning process.
BazingaBeeKay@reddit
It happens to a lot of people.
It’s happened to me as a student with 18 hours, and my CFI that has 1k hours also has done it when I was in the left seat with him.
It happens.
Empty-See@reddit
Wow, you were both in the left seat! Sounds a bit cozier than I prefer but whatever works for you!
BazingaBeeKay@reddit
Makes it a little easier to reach the rudder pedals 😂
fusionlove@reddit
One of the things about aviation is that it really makes us confront and develop the ways we notice, address, debrief and prevent mistakes of many different kinds. There are thousands of videos on youtube analysing our mistakes in detail. Imagine if driving cars was like that.
stevedropnroll@reddit
Eventually you'll get the controller who calls you and gives a clearance for something you didn't request and are in no position to do, and you'll see from the other side of it that it happens and it's not the end of the world.
I was just departing a class D to go do some maneuvers with my instructor, maybe had 12 or 13 hours at the time. We're about 3 miles south of the airport and climbing. Tower gives me a landing clearance. I told my instructor that I thought he might have meant to call someone else (there were 5 other planes on the airfield from this club, and the controllers talk to the same 6 tail numbers all day every day). He told me to tell Tower, and we got it all figured out.
320sim@reddit
My favorite is that clip of ATC repeatedly telling an RJ to "stop moving" while on their departure until they realized they were confusing callsigns
nascent_aviator@reddit
Happened to me already as a solo student pilot. Quiet frequency and suddenly I heard ", was that you?" And then almost immediately "roger, , radar services terminated, squawk VFR, contact tower."
CmdrButts@reddit
I once radioed final instead of overhead (brain fart mid join, not intent). Tower had fun with that.
TheDrMonocle@reddit
Don't sweat it. Every so often I'll say "Skywest 1234 contact approach on 123.45" and N789XZ will respond.
Neither_Cap6958@reddit
Damn AC. A&P,an PPL, went for the trifecta i see.
falcopilot@reddit
I've had a CFI not familiar with my panel leave me transmitting, variously, on Guard, a field's ASOS (they contacted me to tell me on Guard), Seattle Center while flying laps at my home podunk golf...
Fortunately, you have a two word magic phrase that smooths things over: "Student Pilot"
VermicelliMoney5421@reddit
Which is why it's important to put your callsign at the end of a readback.
DogFurDiamond@reddit
You have nothing on me dude: calling for taxi clearance x3 times and hearing nothing, only to find out my volume was down and I was blindly stepping on everyone and their mom including a Boeing test flight.
Why-R-People-So-Dumb@reddit
I did that...at Logan.
KaptainLex@reddit
Don’t even worry about it! Everyone has responded to the wrong call at some point, some folks even after several hundred hours of flying. Ask me how I know. We’re all humans out here, so be kinder to yourself and don’t beat yourself up.
For what it’s worth, talking on the radio does get easier, I promise. Keep it up!
Unique_Logic@reddit
It's called "confirmation bias". You are hearing what you expect to hear, not what is being said.
Tuggernuggets@reddit
If I had a dollar for every time I messed up a radio call I’d have been able to fund all my flight training 🤣
Rangeexpert3@reddit
I've had it happen to me where somebody answered several of my clearances to land while in the traffic pattern. It happens.
karantza@reddit
Just wait until you ask for your taxi clearance on guard because you mixed up radios, and have every pilot in range reply "YER ON GUARD"
Impossible-Bad-2291@reddit
Just meow an apology and move on...
yocray@reddit
Been there, done that. Controllers make this mistake pretty frequently too.
fighterace00@reddit
Hey it could always be worse. I learned at an untowered field so my first flight to a class D was a major ordeal. I called up taxi clearance and today replied ready to go "but you might want to buckle your seatbelt first." Sure enough, there was my seatbelt hanging out the side with the door closed on it. Eternal embarrassment.
Creative-Grocery2581@reddit
It happens. No biggie
JimTheJerseyGuy@reddit
I’ve heard this same scenario happen except it was NY Approach that screwed the tail numbers up…and then excoriated the individual pilots for “messing up”. And I quote, “come on guys this isn’t rocket science!”
Mach_v_manchild@reddit
Bro I did thay with center last week. Everyone mishears tail numbers. No big unless you break a reg or do something dangerous.
CaptHugemeat@reddit
I especially like when ATC gives me a heads up that there’s a similar tail number on frequency, I’m ready for it, and I still respond to the other guys instructions from ATC.
OriginalJayVee@reddit
Bro, this stuff happens all the time. If that’s the worst thing you do as a student then you’re doing pretty fukkin well!
Ratty_BeardFace@reddit
I have heard one guy check in (Person A). another guy (person B) mix up his call sign with person A and answer the following call, have a conversation as person A and change frequency to the next sector still as person A. Luckily they were both going to the same place and ATC was understanding
aftcg@reddit
Lol I just did it the other day in LAX in an airliner. Still making n00b mistakes after 27 years of airlining.
AjaxBU@reddit
When I was instructing, we had two planes and I was in one for about 5 hours one day then my last flight was in the other. I was out with a PPL student and the other tail was up with the chief flight instructor doing instrument work training. I read back his entire approach clearance. That got a chuckle from my boss on the other side of town. My presolo student had no idea what happened.
Fly3rBoi@reddit
Such the importance of read backs! Most of not all pilots have done this in some way, shape or form.
Learn and try not to do it again, but you will and that’s ok.
nascent_aviator@reddit
There are three types of pilots: pilots this has happened to, pilots who haven't been flying very long, and liars.
BandicootOnly4598@reddit
The night our school spun up its second RV12, I was out on a maintenance flight in the first one, and an instructor who has been flying the pants off that first plane for the previous 6 months called for taxi with my tail number, while in the second plane. I had just gotten taxi clearance, and we were on the same taxiway, so everybody including the ground controller was very confused for a while. It happens.
Additional_Name_867@reddit
I just announced “left pattern 19”, which is useless because everyone is flying left pattern. Should have said “left downwind”. In my defense, there’s very little traffic at my airport and today we had six people in the pattern so I was a bit distracted. 😅
ChestertonsFence1929@reddit
Happens to everyone. You’ll make many more mistakes; just don’t wallow in them. Flying is a process of piling on failures until you succeed. It’s how you get better.
CBRChimpy@reddit
This is why we have the whole process of reading back clearances.
Also why students with 10 hours have an instructor next to them lmao
bobnuthead@reddit
Sounds like one of the airports in my flair, lol. Mistakes happen! Not the end of the world, just be attentive and listen for your callsign. Easy to let confirmation bias cause a little slip, but that’s why ATC is listening for your callsign too.
LADR_Official@reddit
radios are hard for basically everyone, and even super experienced pilots/atc goof on the radio still lol
EpicRedhead13@reddit
I’ve heard it plenty, done it myself a time or two, etc.
rFlyingTower@reddit
This is a copy of the original post body for posterity:
Im a student pilot with about 10 hours. This happened few days ago when i was making my initial call for taxi clearance with ground.
The airport that i fly out of was redoing the taxiways, and i would have to cross the runway to get to the other side which was in use. After i made my call for taxi clearance atc almost immedietly gave it, unfortunately it wasnt for me, it was for someone with a very similar tail number, who was trying to do almost the same thing.
So i read back this clearance as soon as possible and without really thinking, only for my instructor to tell me that that call wasnt for us and then atc said "i dont know who replied to that but that wasnt for you".
I apologized when i requested taxi clearance again and it wasnt a big deal but please tell me im not the only one who has replied to the wrong call.
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