How similar are the Amish and the Mormons? Do they generally live in the same regions?

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DeanKoontssy@reddit

Completely different, completely different parts of the country. Both vaguely Christian, otherwise nothing in common.

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yurinator71@reddit

Amish are very Christian, Mormonism is considered a Christian cult.

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ChatBot42@reddit

In what sense? The "church of Jesus christ" sounds pretty Christian, but I'm no expert I guess. 🤷

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Positive-Avocado-881@reddit

They actually don’t have the same beliefs about Jesus which is the core belief that all other Christians agree on. There’s other things, but that’s the most obvious one.

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ChatBot42@reddit

How do the differ? How do you know which one is right?

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Positive-Avocado-881@reddit

Honestly, I think Google could explain it better than I could 😅

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ChatBot42@reddit

And you've read both? Is there something in the Mormon Book that is at odds? I'm not a theology guy and haven't read either one really.

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zpierson79@reddit

The Book of Mormon is wildly different from the rest of Christian teaching.

Catholics, Orthodox & Protestant churches all consider the same books to be the bible. All agree on the Nicene Creed, which defines trinitarian Christianity.

Their differences are in interpretation of those same basics. (And various arguments about tradition vs direct biblical interpretation.). There are some Christian denominations that are non-trinitarian, but do use the same bible - those are often viewed as non-Christian (or Arian Christian) by the major denominations.

There is some grey area for the major churches where it comes down to some very old disagreements about Christ’s exact nature that some of the early split offs from the main church had, those are viewed a little differently, as they are trinitarian, but with different ideas about the exact nature of Christ. (The Catholic & Orthodox churches were generally OK with the Coptic Church, they acknowledged that they had differences in doctrine, but avoided ever considering them heretical - in fact, the Catholics tried to reintegrate them into the Catholic Church while allowing them to keep their rites - there is a Catholic Coptic Church branch today.)

Mormons use as their primary religious book a book not accepted by any other Christian creed.

While the other Christian denominations can argue from the same book that their views are correct, Mormons are using a completely different basis for their faith. It doesn’t lead to their views being in accord with the other denominations.

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ChatBot42@reddit

Why is "being in accord" the goal? Since Protestant sects splintered from Catholicism the similarity is not really two independent "votes" if you will.

Mormons do seem to use the Bible as well. Is that not so?

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zpierson79@reddit

Not primarily.

The Book of Mormon is their primary book that they consider to have superseded the New Testament.

On the other hand, from the Catholic Church to JW’s, everyone else uses the same Bible, just interpreting it differently & putting different emphasis on historical traditions that aren’t found in the Bible.

Most of the other denominations recognize each other as Christian, even if they have major disagreements. (The Catholic Church recognizes Baptist baptism as valid, for instance, and they don’t really tend to get along at all.)

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ChatBot42@reddit

Interesting you mention JWs - who also do not believe in the trinity.

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zpierson79@reddit

Yes, they could be considered Arian Christians.

They completely reject all traditions & work directly from their interpretation of the Bible.

Most other denominations consider the Nicene creed to be one of the defining characteristics of Christianity, JW’s do not. (It was the council of the early church that first defined a unified Christianity.)

They are not the only non-trinitarian Christians, but they are probably the best known. (Oneness Pentecostalism, Iglesia ni Cristo, Swedenborgianism are some others.)

The Mormons, however, use a different primary text, so unlike the JWs, who base their religion on their interpretation of the Bible, the Mormons use the Book of Mormon as a primary source.

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ChatBot42@reddit

The council of Nicea was just a product of a committee.

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_higglety@reddit

Well first off they added a whole other book of the Bible that they say builds on and supersedes the old and new testaments. I'm Jewish, and when the Christians did that to OUR book, they definitely branched off into a new religion.

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Positive-Avocado-881@reddit

I actually grew up being friends with several Mormons so I’ve read some of it and have had some discussions. I have my beliefs and they have theirs. I’m not sure why I got downvoted. If you asked a Mormon, they would say they’re right.

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Curmudgy@reddit

How do you know which one is right?

Without getting into the actual debate, I’ll just point out that from a strictly logical position, it’s possible that neither is right.

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ChatBot42@reddit

Fair to add that in. And how would you know that?

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Curmudgy@reddit

How do I know that it’s possible neither is right? Or how do I know that it’s true neither is right?

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Roar-Lions-Roar@reddit

Mormonism is non-trinitarian.

Put another way, Christians believe Jesus IS God while Mormons see Jesus as more of an equal to Satan in a sort of weird yin-yang thing.

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HottestestestMess@reddit

It’s the Jesus Christ Church of Latter Day Saints, and they are generally referred to by the second half of the name, LDS. The second half is where the unorthodoxy comes in. (I have no skin this game, I just find it interesting)

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ChatBot42@reddit

The full name is "The church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints".

For any sect though, unorthodox compared to whom? Some other competing religion, right? Like Christianity itself is a heretical unorthodox breakaway sect of Judaism.

Orthodoxy is in the eye of the beholder it seems.

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airmantharp@reddit

Christianity from the New Testament is pretty straightforward.

Mormonism is…. Something the fuck else.

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ChatBot42@reddit

Like?

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airmantharp@reddit

It's own separate cult?

Compare Jesus to Joseph Smith.

One is arguably a prophet (at least), the other a literal grifter.

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ChatBot42@reddit

Do mormons put Joseph Smith on par with Jesus? That is not my understanding at all.

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HottestestestMess@reddit

Above my pay grade 🤷‍♀️

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ChatBot42@reddit

Well if our souls are at stake, I guess it is meant to be our pay grade

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HottestestestMess@reddit

Whether our souls are at stake is also above my pay grade (I’m agnostic)

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somedaymyDRwillcome@reddit

Another big difference is that they’re non-Trinitarian. Catholic, Orthodox, and most mainstream and non-denominational Christian churches teach that Jesus and the Holy Spirit are united in one divine being with God the Father. The LDS does not, which is one of the reasons Christians often view Mormons as outside of Christianity.

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ChatBot42@reddit

Lots of Christians reasonably question the idea of a literal trinity if they think about it at all. If Jesus was resurrected, but now he's part of a single amorphos entity, where'd his body go? Why be ressurected at all?

How did Stephen see God and Jesus on his right hand while being filled with the Holy Spirit in Acts? And if he didn't, why include the story at all?

It's not really so cut and dried.

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albertnormandy@reddit

Individuals may question it but the Trinity is still church doctrine. It is not church doctrine for the LDS church.

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ChatBot42@reddit

But they are not alone in Christian sects who don't believe in the trinity.

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albertnormandy@reddit

Who decides what the word “Christian” means? If we go by numbers alone, the vast majority of practicing Christians consider the Trinity the sine qua non of Christianity.

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Yourlilemogirl@reddit

They believe black folk are black cuz they did something morally lacking to be punished for and to show their sin on their skin. And eventually all will be white, at least, that's what my neighbor told me when trying to convert me back in the late 90s. To be fair though, we were about 10yrs old at the time.

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BecauseImBatmanFilms@reddit

No we don't and that has literally never been doctrine.

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Positive-Avocado-881@reddit

You guys never tied the curses of Cain and Ham to Black people? Ever? Black men weren’t banned from the priesthood?? Okay

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BecauseImBatmanFilms@reddit

The Curse of Cain was never official Church doctrine. Just a belief that was held by some of the early converts who had inherited it from years of Protestantism. Joseph Smith actively baptized and ordained black people, but, following his death, old prejudices were allowed to grow back up

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Positive-Avocado-881@reddit

Sweep it under the rug and blame Protestantism, got it. 😂

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JulesInIllinois@reddit

Yeah ... they change their stories, histories and rules often over the years, usually because of wealthy potential members. They had no problem with Michael Jackson being black.

It's sure an interesting cult. But, they are always happy to take your money.

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Positive-Avocado-881@reddit

Michael Jackson was a Jehovah’s Witness. Another interesting cult.

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JulesInIllinois@reddit

Yes. Sorry. But, LDS is all about getting that money.

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TomPastey@reddit

The list of LDS leaders who have taught that dark skin was a curse from God is long, and Brigham Young leads the list:

"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind. The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings. This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race—that they should be the ‘servant of servants;’ and they will be, until that curse is removed;"

Also:

"Why are so many of the inhabitants of the earth cursed with a sin of blackness? It comes in consequence of their fathers rejecting the power of the Holy Priesthood, and the law of God. They will go down to death. And when all the rest of the children have received their blessings in the Holy Priesthood, then that curse will be removed from the seed of Cain."

John Taylor:

"The descendants of Ham, besides a black skin which has ever been a curse that has followed an apostate of the holy priesthood, as well as a black heart, have been servants to both Shem and Jepheth, and the abolitionists are trying to make void the curse of God"

Wilford Woodruff:

"The Lord said I will not kill Cane But I will put a mark upon him and it is seen in the [face?] of every Negro on the Earth And it is the decree of God that that mark shall remain upon the seed of Cane & the Curse [remain] untill all the seed of Abel should be re[deem?]ed"

Joseph Fielding Smith:

"There were no neutrals in the war in heaven. All took sides either with Christ or with Satan. Every man had his agency there, and men receive rewards here based upon their actions there, just as they will receive rewards hereafter for deeds done in the body. The Negro, evidently, is receiving the reward he merits"

Also:

"That the negro race, for instance, have been placed under restrictions because of their attitude in the world of spirits, few will doubt."

Melvin J Ballard:

"Why is it in this Church we do not grant the priesthood to the Negroes? It is alleged that the Prophet Joseph said—and I have no reason to dispute it—that it is because of some act committed by them before they came into this life."

George F Richards:

"The Negro race have been forbidden the priesthood, and the higher temple blessings, presumably because of their not having been valiant while in the spirit."

Mark E Petersen:

"We cannot escape the conclusion that because of performance in the pre-existence some of us are born as Chinese, some as Japanese, some as Indians, some as Negroes, some as Americans, some as Latter-day Saints. These are rewards and punishments, fully in harmony with His established policy in dealing with sinners and saints, rewarding all according to their deeds"

There are many more. A lot of LDS leaders have said a lot of terrible things about non-white people.

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Yourlilemogirl@reddit

Then I'm guessing my neighbor was full of shit, that lil punk

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DowntownGas428@reddit

To be fair, there was a racist subculture among many early members. A lot of the extreme views people connect to Mormons come from cultural and not religious views

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MaeClementine@reddit

Naw they did used to teach that. They have since changed it though. They do that a lot. They even try to collect and destroy all the outdated Books of Mormon to replace them with the new teachings.

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Yourlilemogirl@reddit

Man now I wish I had held onto that Mormon book he snuck me to check. My mom was very weirded out by his family and felt it blasphemous to have "another religions holy book in the house" but she was too scared of the social Faux Pas if they ever came around again and asked to see the book their son gave me in earnest. So she just buried it under a lot of chicken noodle soup for the soul books.

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VernapatorCur@reddit

Go watch the South Park episode on Mormonism. It's Scientology before Scientology.

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Curmudgy@reddit

How does The Book of Mormon musical compare to the South Park episode, given their common roots?

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Accomplished_Cell768@reddit

I mean with that logic the Nazis were socialists and North Korea is a democracy. The way people choose to name their group can say as much or more about how they want to be perceived than how they actually are.

Their main holy book is not the Bible and the Bible really isn’t very important, they (particularly historically) don’t use the cross as a symbol, Jesus was real but isn’t anywhere near as important as the living prophets, God has a physical body, they don’t believe in the trinity, all well behaving Mormons become gods themselves in the celestial afterlife that rule over their own planets, Christians believe God created the universe from nothing and Mormons believe everything existed in premortal form, and on and on. I’m sure ex Mormons can give more examples using scripture and teachings about the way that they aren’t really that similar to mainstream Christian religions. Joseph Smith basically used the most fundamental parts of Christianity as a jumping off point and then went all sci-fi fanfic on it to create Mormonism. These days the church is trying to downplay the crazy stuff and brand themselves as Christians, but most Christians familiar with their beliefs disagree.

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No-Lunch4249@reddit

Well the whole foundation of their belief as a distinct "branch" of Christianity is built on this actual recorded person from like the 1800s who claimed to have gotten a personal message from God on gold engraved tablets

So while I think "Christian Cult" is a bit aggressive it's close enough to fair that I'm not going to argue against it either

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ChatBot42@reddit

Is it a stranger origin story than a leader of a bunch of refugees going up a mountain and getting tablets of stone and starting Judaism?

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No-Lunch4249@reddit

It's a lot easier to accept "poetic liscense" for shit that happened several thousand years ago versus a guy who we almost certainly have a photograph (well, Daguerreotype) of

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ggbookworm@reddit

Mainstream Christianity is not based on messages from aliens like the Mormon cult is. John Smith based the religion on supposed messages from aliens.

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DowntownGas428@reddit

It’s angels. That’s like saying the Bible is full of aliens

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ChatBot42@reddit

Angels, I think.

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yurinator71@reddit

You will have to do your own research. I wil not be that can of worms today!

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carisjax@reddit

He said a Christian cult.

A cult is formally defined as a cohesive, often small group of people characterized by excessive, uncritical devotion to a leader, dogma, or set of beliefs, often utilizing coercive persuasion techniques and operating in an insular manner that is contrary to the established mainstream. According to Merriam Webster.

The poster is applying a certain amount of subjectivism, but I don't disagree with their assessment.

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DeanKoontssy@reddit

To say Mormonism is a cult and the Amish aren't seems crazy to me.

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Suppafly@reddit

To say Mormonism is a cult and the Amish aren't seems crazy to me.

I think they are both more or less cults, but at least the Amish keep to themselves and mostly don't bother anyone. They also don't seem to do anything to keep people from leaving, a key component of cults.

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anneofgraygardens@reddit

They keep people undereducated, which is a huge obstacle for people who might consider leaving.

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yurinator71@reddit

Just to clarify, the Amish religion holds the major beliefs that are considered essential to Christianity. Mormonism has many beliefs and a whole Bible that differ greatly from Christianity. Mormons believe they are the true followers of Christ, while most Christian groups don't consider Mormonism to be true Christianity.

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DeanKoontssy@reddit

So you can't hold the beliefs essential to Christianity and also be a cult? Christianity is cult proof?

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yurinator71@reddit

I am not going to argue over the definition of a cult. Everything is a cult to someone. I was just trying to point out the difference. Mormonism is a variation of Christianity. They aren't evil. There are thousands of Christian cults, just ask the Catholics.

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Meekanado@reddit

Some Amish groups are pretty cult-like too.

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yurinator71@reddit

I don't know about that, but I think their core beliefs do align with major Christian tenants.

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MortimerDongle@reddit

Yes, Amish theology is pretty much orthodox Christianity. Their primary deviation from other protestants is the age of baptism, which tends to be 16 or older, so even older than is typical among other protestants that practice "adult" baptism.

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deedeejayzee@reddit

I live in an Amish area, two of the types of Amish are definitely cults.

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Roomaroo27@reddit

All religions are cults. Mormons are no different. The Christian hierarchy of “we’re better than you” when it’s all just a fairy tale anyway is obnoxious, off-putting, and exclusionary.
No thanks. I’ll stay an atheist.
Also I’m wondering if OP meant Mennonites.

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yurinator71@reddit

I think they probably meant Mennonite. A better way of clarifying my point would be to say that Mormonism is based upon Christianity, but they hold beliefs that separate them from most of Christianity.

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MangaMaven@reddit

Many former Amish consider Amish a cult too.

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Additional_Low8050@reddit

I lived on an Amish farm for 6 mos. In Penn. we rented a cottage from them & I paid to have a telephone pole & line strung to our cabin. They were horrified, but we paid for it & paid extra rent. In the evenings we would see their kids at the bar \~ they all had race cars\~ Camaros, Mustangs & parked em off in cornfields or in the barn under hay. Their daddies knew\~
It was called the wilding year\~ it was a terrific experience! The women wouldn’t speak to me as I wore hip- hugger blue jeans & crop tops! I went to “town” & bought a 👗 & that didn’t work either…my husband went to go buy vegetables from them on the farm & helped them “raise a barn” & it was a stunning display of workmanship. I’m 70\~ I was in my 20’s then… live & learn!

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HobsHere@reddit

Some congregations definitely are. Others not. Each congregation or small group of congregations make their own rules and practices. There is no top level organization at all.

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Mediocre_Daikon6935@reddit

I doubt you would find many Amish, Ana Baptist’s in general, Protestants, or Catholics that would consider LDS Christian…

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FMLwtfDoID@reddit

Catholics don’t generally make that call on whether or not someone else’s Christian religion is “Christian enough”.

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SpinosaurRingTone@reddit

You should consider educating yourself on this topic before contributing to the conversation.

Catholics and Protestants agree with each other much more than they agree with Mormons. Hell, Catholics, Protestants, Jews, and Muslims agree with each other much more than they agree with Mormons.

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Suppafly@reddit

Catholics and Protestants agree with each other much more than they agree with Mormons.

True, but that doesn't change the fact that:

Catholics don’t generally make that call on whether or not someone else’s Christian religion is “Christian enough”.

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FMLwtfDoID@reddit

Mormons have never called me a ‘dirty papist’ as a child, like American Protestant evangelicals have done. I think I’m fairly well versed on what I was taught in Catholic School.

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SpinosaurRingTone@reddit

Your personal interactions with either group has no bearing on you being wrong.

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FMLwtfDoID@reddit

You encouraged me to educate myself on my lived experiences.

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MyUsername2459@reddit

You're being encouraged to study the matter outside your limited personal experience.

There are a list of specific doctrinal and historical reasons that Mormons are not Christian, and how Protestants and Catholics agree with each other far more on belief than either agrees with Mormons. .

. . .and nothing in your personal experience changes that.

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MyUsername2459@reddit

This is not a Catholic thing.

They don't fit basic definitions of Christianity that existed before the Roman Catholic Church was founded.

They directly contradict basic elements of Christianity going back to the Early Church.

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Megalocerus@reddit

If they aren't Catholic, they are all in rebellion against the True Church./s

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Mediocre_Daikon6935@reddit

That’s because Protestants became very heavily armed.

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MyUsername2459@reddit

They literally don't meet the basic standard going back to antiquity for being Christian.

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SphericalCrawfish@reddit

All the protestant slop is the same to a proper Catholic.

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Euphoric-Bat7582@reddit

Protestants and Catholics both believe in the Nicene Creed, which is often view as the litmus test for Christianity. Mormons do not believe in it.

Mormons believe Jesus to be a separate entity to and a literal son of God. They believe God joined to another deity to create Jesus.

It’s not very similar.

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Environmental_Bar824@reddit

They also believe that Satan is a brother of Jesus.

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Keelera2@reddit

The more I learn about the history surrounding the Nicene creed, the more I find it WILD that people would use that moment in history to define whether or not someone today is “Christian enough.”

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SpinosaurRingTone@reddit

I'm a Catholic. There's a big difference between Lutheranism and Anglicanism and Pastor Joe's Non Denominational Bible Church.

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Lower_Neck_1432@reddit

Could we not reinact the Troubles, please.

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Grand-Rabbit-4368@reddit

All the Catholics I know refer to Episcopals and Anglicans as Catholic light (a third less guilt). And Lutherans (not Missouri) as close cousins. Baptists though, that's where things get confusing. And the whole no drinking at a Methodist wedding makes our heads spin. LDS is like aliens...

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Cheap_Coffee@reddit

The Methodist aversion to alcohol only is in effect during communion. Wonder bread and grape juice FTW!

- former Methodist

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Character_Log_5444@reddit

Methodists definitely drink at weddings, LOL.

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eyetracker@reddit

They were very severe about alcohol a bit after being founded by Wesley. At least the UMC flavor has long left that belief system.

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FMLwtfDoID@reddit

Why not Missouri Lutherans..?

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ursa_subpar@reddit

Missouri Synod is just the name of a separate sect of Lutheranism. They're slightly more ok with gay people.

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Curmudgy@reddit

Two other comments described them as more conservative. Wouldn’t that suggest less ok with gay people?

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HobsHere@reddit

I don't know about the various Lutheran groups, but conservative theology and conservative practice don't always go together. The Episcopalians, for example, are extremely conservative (in the sense of orthodox) theologically and liturgically, but generally very liberal in their practices. The opposite would be some megachurches that are very socially conservative (down on LBGT folks, etc.) but have " made it up as they went along" theology.

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ursa_subpar@reddit

Ok, its the Evangelical Lutherans that allow gay pastors. I had them mixed up, my bad. Then I have no idea why they would be the ones the Catholic Church doesn't like.

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Grand-Rabbit-4368@reddit

We're differently conservative, although probably equally unrealistic in our rules. For instance being gay and Catholic is fine as long as you lead a celibate life. When my parents were young there was some loophole for 3-5 years (I forget which) of birth control? So lots of precisely spaced kids. My mom was a covert so she liked to point out the foibles to my dad.

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superfastmomma@reddit

To be clear it's not literally Lutherans in the state of Missouri being discussed. Missouri Synod (and Wisconsin synod) are entirely different organizations from ELCA Lutherans. Very different. They just have the started in their names but are nationwide.

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FMLwtfDoID@reddit

Ok thank you. I was confused bc I’ve been to a handful of Lutheran services in a majority Jesuit Catholic (Missouri) area, and they were very, very similar in vibe, which was much more relaxed. I did not know that Lutherans even had a more conservative branch, or that it started in Missouri.

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Character_Log_5444@reddit

I think this is a type of Lutheran. I believe it is referred to as the Missouri Synod. I had a friend whose grandfather was a Lutheran minister. The Missouri Synod was a much more conservative arm of the church.

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plated_lead@reddit

They know what they did.

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One_Advantage793@reddit

Missourri Synod being the conservative branch of Lutherans - they're different

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Grand-Rabbit-4368@reddit

Missouri Synod goes more with Methodists. Adding extra rules. We have enough already.

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aynber@reddit

Considering there are at least three major Baptist conventions, it does get confusing. I grew up in American Baptist churches, and I’m scared to wander into the wrong baptist church now that I live in the south.

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shinyviper@reddit

Never take a Baptist fishing. He’ll drink all your beer.

Take two Baptists instead, and neither will drink.

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HobsHere@reddit

And there are different sorts of Baptists with beliefs that vary widely. Some are very Calvinist, others very Arminian. A belief in adult Baptism seems to be the only thing they all have in common.

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oswin13@reddit

The Orthodox laughing in the corner

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HueyLongest@reddit

Mormons aren't Protestants

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HobsHere@reddit

Amish aren't either, by their own reckoning. They were not part of the Lutheran, Calvinist, or Anglican movements, and their theology differs from any of these.

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HueyLongest@reddit

Right, the anabaptists were also their own thing during the reformation

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AndrasEllon@reddit

As everyone knows, proper Catholics ignore Vatican 2. Every proper Catholic knows the Pope was definitely wrong there. Hey, maybe you should do some kind of protest about it?

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Dreamweaver5823@reddit

Not one who is knowledgeable about the doctrines of various protestant faiths. There is a huge difference between the beliefs of, for example, Lutherans and Mormons.

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Quirky_Spinach_6308@reddit

Read a book about religious divisions, and the author stated that there 10,000 kinds of Christians in the US, and half of them do not acknowledge the other half.

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Doomdoomkittydoom@reddit

And all that protestant slop doesn't consider the Whore of Babylon to be proper Christians.

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ProbablyAPotato1939@reddit

Raised Lutheran, not religious, but still loosely practicing, and I consider Mormons to be closer to Muslims than Christians.

Polygamy, no alcohol, etc.

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Keelera2@reddit

Muslims believe Jesus to just be a prophet, but the LDS see him as Savior Lord and King, and the only way to salvation. Also, Christians do believe that sometimes polygamy is okay, or else they would have denounced Abraham, Jacob/Israel, David, Solomon, etc.

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ITrCool@reddit

The FLDS, as an example...........a literal cult of extremist fundamentalists within the Mormon world.

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Mediocre_Daikon6935@reddit

I hve to say I think you’re being unfair to moslems.

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DeanKoontssy@reddit

I'm not consulting the opinion of other's on the subject, I'm making my own judgement call that if you think Jesus Christ was the son of the god and the messiah, you are essentially Christian. Where other people would draw the line is ultimately inconsequential to me because ultimately all of these religions are equally fake.

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Utterlybored@reddit

I don’t consider many Christians to be Christian.

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VegetableSquirrel@reddit

There is that.

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Appropriate-Food1757@reddit

Very true

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SinfullySinatra@reddit

I think the only group that considers Mormons to be Christian is Mormons

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Relative-Channel7749@reddit

Protestants are heretics.

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ScammedByBankman@reddit

LDS are not Christian.

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Mr_Kittlesworth@reddit

Literally speak different languages

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newimprovedmoo@reddit

Not very. Both are Christian sects that tend to be socially conservative but that's about where the similarities end.

Amish live in small conclaves, mostly in Pennsylvania or certain parts of the midwest. They eschew most modern technology, don't get involved in politics, and make an effort for their communities to be self-sufficient and separate from what they refer to as "English" society. Some still speak Plattdeutsch (a dialect of German) among themselves rather than English. Mormons are a significantly newer movement and live pretty much everywhere, though with a larger concentration in the Southwest, especially Utah where their church is headquartered. They participate fully and enthusiastically in most aspects of mainstream society, politics, etc. They're almost too All-American in the way they generally live their lives. Speaking as someone with both Amish and Jewish family I would say the Amish are much more like Charedim than they are like Mormons (though still very different in many ways too.)

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JumpingJonquils@reddit

I think you are confusing Mormons and Mennonites. Mennonites have some cultural similarities as the Amish.

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PhantomdiverDidIt@reddit

Right. IIRC, the Amish are an offshoot of the Mennonites. And there are a ton of different kinds of Mennonite. They vary from sort of Amish Lite to Baptist-like.

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Environmental_Bar824@reddit

The Mennonites are an offshoot of the Amish.

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PhantomdiverDidIt@reddit

I looked it up, because I want sure that I remembered what a Mennonite once told me, but I did remember it right. The Amish did split off from the Mennonites, not the other way around. It seems backward for a split-off sect to get more traditional, but that's what happened.

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Impossible_Fall_3188@reddit

That seems crazy it know of some ex-Amish that went Mennonite, and that seems to he the trend with the ones I know. I was raised Methodist which is the 3rd denomination in my parents home town area. That was the one a lot of them ended up going to a generation or 2 after they became Mennonite from leaving the Amish.

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ITrCool@reddit

It's basically what happened in the Mormon world too. They started in Independence, MO under Joseph Smith, but then Brigham Young broke off after some major disagreements with Smith's group and took folks out to Utah and established the much larger and well-known LDS church out there with their massive white temple, and the Independence folks became Community of Christ (their giant spiral-shaped facility out there in the KC area).

Then the FLDS ultra-fundamentalist extremist cult broke off of the LDS church and we have the Warren Jeffs nightmare from that, with their creepy compounds and polygamist marriages.

All because each break-off group though the former wasn't focused enough or Mormon enough to please "god". Though most of the Mormon world still see Joseph Smtih as the main "man" and founder of the whole faith in general.

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Outside_Complaint755@reddit

That happens all the time, like the Sedevacantists, who hold that no Pope since the death of Pius XII in 1958 was a valid Pope, and reject all of the changes from the Second Vatican Council.

Actually, I feel like its much more common for the split off sects to be more conservative than the group they left in the last 80 years or so, but I haven't done a full analysis to confirm that.

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Environmental_Bar824@reddit

Oh, you're right. Sorry.

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Finzinnati@reddit

The person might be thinking of the polygamous FLDS cult when asking about Mormons. The FLDS do seem to get the majority of media attention and greater notoriety than the larger LDS movement, despite their relatively small numbers overall. And from the outside, the FLDS may look somewhat similar to Amish (in attire, in particular, and in that FLDS men tend to hold manual labor jobs). Though the commonalities between the two groups that appear on the surface quickly dissipates once you learn anything deeper about the two groups.

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4Q69freak@reddit

The Amish are a splinter group of the Mennonites. Jakob Amman led several families away from the Mennonites in 1693 over an argument over church punishment and shunning.

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ITrCool@reddit

I knew a guy in college who was a Mennonite. He said the biggest difference is Mennonites can have electricity, some modern conveniences like cars/trucks, and cell phones, but otherwise, things that can be a vice or idol are not allowed. Also like you said it's also a lot of cultural similarities on stuff.

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SinceWayLastMay@reddit

And I think with mennonites the consensus seems to be their communities can be almost no restrictions at all basically as restrictive as the Amish, it depends on the bishop. Also there’s a lot of variation on how restrictive Amish communities are

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TillPsychological351@reddit

And they tend to geographically overlap quite a bit.

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VernapatorCur@reddit

The Amish live in small separate, low tech communities around the country. The Mormons hold more financial power than several states combined, and have basically the entirety of Utah under their political control. They're not very similar.

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cyvaquero@reddit

Not necessarily separate communities. They have businesses and interact with “the English” regularly.

I grew up around them in central PA.

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SparklingSaturnRing@reddit

Buddy of mine grew up in Philly and told me Amish people sell bread at the airport. Said they’re nice

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TwirlyTwitter@reddit

Union Station in Chicago always has a few families passing through.

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Gunther482@reddit

Yeah I grew up in Iowa on a farm and our neighbors were Amish and we talked to them all the time. We would sell them hay and such for their horses and they’d even come visit my parents at our house probably every two or three months just to chat.

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I_Owe_Suzanner@reddit

I am not a religious expert. Please forgive any inaccuracies:

The Amish and Mormans have very little in common aside from being conservative interpretations if Christianity.

Mormans are a "modern" offshoot of Christianity based on the teachings and testimony of Joseph Smith, claiming to have received a new version of the Bible from golden plates. Mormans believe Jesus lived in Missouri and the US Constitution is inspired by God. Morman churches are all over American, but their base is in Utah, where they dominate politics and business. Anyone can become Morman. They love to recruit. If you ask a Morman neighbor for help with a task, the neighbor will arrive with a group of very friendly enthusiastic friends ready to help. They may try to talk to you about God or they may invite you to community dinner. All Mormans are expected to give 5% - 10% of their income to the church.

The Amish are passivist Christians, historicaly from Germany and believe God directs them to live a simple life. Modern technology, cars, and electricity are seen as distractions. The Amish have different communities observing their own unique version of a simple life. Some very conservative, some more liberal. They tend to wear old fashioned clothes and use horses for transportation. The Amish live in rural communities in Pennsylvania and parts of the Midwest. All Amish I have met speak English just fine, but also speak a dialect of German. They are 100% Ameraicans and not seen as "weird". The Amish are known for being hard workers and being able to build houses, barns, all sorts of things with tremendous quality, craftsmanship and speed. If the Amish are in your area, you can hire them to build your house. Someone can become Amish, but that is rare. People are born into Amish communities.

I hope that helps.

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Keelera2@reddit

Two corrections: 1- Mormons don’t believe Jesus lived in Missouri. We believe after he was resurrected, he came and visited the Americas, and very likely other nations and people as well. Jesus is Christ for all nations, and he loves all nations, not just those who lived in Israel.

2- The Book of Mormon is not a new version of the Bible. It’s a complementary book that ALSO testifies that Jesus is the Christ. We still absolutely believe in the Bible. I have noticed (at least living in the South) that a lot of Christians haven’t actually read the Bible. They’ll repeat what their preacher has said, but haven’t taken the time to study it themselves. Mormons are HOUNDED to read the scriptures for themselves.

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I_Owe_Suzanner@reddit

Thank you for the clarification.

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Suppafly@reddit

Not very, and no.

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Unlikely_Strain_744@reddit

Amish and Mormon are completely different things.

The Amish choose willfully to forego modern conveniences because they recognize the value of the principals they learned by doing things the hard way.

Mormons are just a polygamous religious sect with strange beliefs that most people are totally unaware of. Hell, the majority of "mormons" are only mormons so they can enjoy the polygamy, and have no clue about the religion they are ascribing themselves to.

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SabresBills69@reddit

very different. I think you might have meant the Mennonite people. Them and Amish live in the same areas. The difference is mennonites accept some electricity in life like refrigerators and heat/ AC. They both tend to marry among themselves so they have a high risk of recessive genetic diseases

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Bluemonogi@reddit

I have some family who are Mormons. They dress like everyone else. They live in ordinary homes. They drive cars. They use computers and modern devices freely. They work at the same jobs as anyone. They freely mix in society. They just belong to the Mormon church. It is like being Jewish or Catholic. They do particular religious things and have places of worship but are still part of society. There are a lot of Mormons in Utah but they live all over the country.

The Amish live in separate communities. They have a different way of dressing and living to most Americans. The largest number of Amish are in Pennsylvania, Ohio and Indiana but there are groups in some other states.

I would not say the two groups are much alike.

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Lower_Neck_1432@reddit

Quite dissimilar, in fact. And usually live in different regions of the country. Now, if you asked about Amish and Mennonites, then you would get a different answer (some similarities, Amish more conservative in dress and lifestyle, and often live in the same community...and even among Amish, there are different levels of Amish, with Old Order the most conservative (no electricity, no motor vehicles), then New Order (may use electricity but still dress conservatively), to Beachy (slightly more conservative than Mennonite).

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sneezhousing@reddit

Not even remotely close

Not same beliefs, parts of the countries anything

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N2Shooter@reddit

Amish and Mormons have nothing in common. Amish and Mennonites are more similar in outward appearance and practice. I see them often here in Ohio.

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Worstmodonreddit@reddit

We have the highest population in the US!

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Low_Attention9891@reddit

The only similarity is that they’re both vaguely Christian.

Mormons predominantly live in Utah and the Amish predominantly live in Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Indiana.

The Amish have roots in 18th century Europe.

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WiseQuarter3250@reddit

They are not alike, at all.

Mormons - most are around Utah. NATIONWIDE there's about 16 million. Dietary restrictions against soda, alcohol, tea & coffee. They don't avoid technology. centralized church organization. Clothing is not as restrictive, they can go to stores and purchase off the rack, (though perhaps encouraging more modest styles). They have a prophet and the Book of Mormon, in addition to the Bible.

Amish - with many communities scattered around but larger concentrations in Pennsylvania, Ohio & Indiana. NATIONWIDE about 400,000 of them. They avoid most modern technology. (In some specific communities they do sometimes make exceptions for medical reasons, there's other occasional exceptions). They adhere to Plain dress/clothing, usually made within their community. no central authority, every community has it's own rules and customs. They use the Bible.

Pennsylvania to Utah is a distance of about 2000 miles (3200+ km).

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Specialist_Win5698@reddit

I’m LDS (and Amish, on the nights of full moons)- my nitpicks here are that we can drink soda, along with caffeine. We also have roughly 16 million members worldwide, with more outside the U.S. than in.

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WiseQuarter3250@reddit

I stand corrected. 😅

since when is soda/caffeine allowed? does that maybe vary by area? or is it restricted to age/place?

and I thought the 16 million was US, not worldwide, so that's my mistake.

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Specialist_Win5698@reddit

I think 25 years ago we gradually became less strict in the caffeine area of things. The word of wisdom (the doctrine about consumption) is somewhat vague and has been applied slightly differently across the years. I suppose that caffeine being used as simpily a boost (like pills or energy drinks) is generally frowned upon in excess. But if there is one thing for certain that I do know it is that if you ever swing by bishop’s office, he’d be sure to offer you a Pepsi from his Mini fridge.

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Professional-Pungo@reddit

Mormons live in Utah, Amish live in like Philly.

They are very different from each other.

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TheOldBooks@reddit

Amish in Philly? Not quite lol

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Additional_Low8050@reddit

Lancaster, PA

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Gabriel_Collins@reddit

I saw the Amish in Philly at Reading Market about 22 years ago. I was in town for The Dave Blood Memorial Concert that The Dead Milkmen put on. They sold me pie.

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FredTheDev@reddit

There are over 17 million members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (AKA Mormons)

Only about 2.2 million of those are in Utah, and about 6 million in the United States. That is a lot of people outside Utah, and even more outside the United States.

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SinceWayLastMay@reddit

There are Amish communities in many different parts of the US

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Traditional_Trust418@reddit

I grew up Mormon. It is a cult, but it is very, very different than the Amish. Mormons use all the modern technology. They have jobs and drive cars. They wear normal clothes, but very modest to cover their underwear that covers from just above the knee to their shoulders.

Mormons pay 10% of their income to the church and follow some silly rules, but the rules are very different than the Amish rules

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JulesInIllinois@reddit

They are totally different. The Mormons are a cult. They even have a whole made up history. Their main temple & population is in Utah. They do make a lot of money off of their members. So, it's a rich cult, invested in a lot of US businesses. They have a really bad track record of sexism and racism.

Amish are Christians. They speak a dialect of German, called Pennsylvania Dutch. They are descended from Germany or Switzerland primarily. Like Mormons, you can find them anywhere. But, Amish are primarily in PA, IN, OH, IL, WI, MO, NY and Sarasota, FL.

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voltairesalias@reddit

They're entirely different religions and lifestyles. Amish are fundamentalist Anabaptists who have very strong values towards communal living, humility, pacifism, and dedicating themselves to their God. Mormonism sprung out of evangelicalism in the 19th century, they're not nominally pacifists, and most of them don't live on communes (although some FLDS sects do).

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No-Heat-436@reddit

Not at all. Modern mainstream Protestants(Evangelicals, Methodists, Baptists, Lutherans, Presbyterians, ETC.) are closer to Amish and Mennonites (who are similar to the Amish, but are more involved in the modern world) than Mormons. But those similarities are in terms of religion and religious practices within the religions. Lifestyle is nowhere near the same for any of them.

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Popular-Local8354@reddit

Not very and no.

Mormons are more or less normal people who believe an… odd offshoot of Christianity, and are primarily in western states like Utah or Idaho.

Amish people are a standard set of anabaptist Christians who have sects that shun technology, and mostly live in the Northeast and Midwest.

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hoggmen@reddit

And Mormons are only really "normal" in comparison to Amish and Mennonites tbh

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MaeClementine@reddit

Mormons are decent as cosplaying as normal

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Popular-Local8354@reddit

I disagree. You really can’t tell if someone is Mormon unless they tell you.

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MaeClementine@reddit

Isn’t that agreeing with my comment though? Do I not know what “cosplay” means? 🤔

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Popular-Local8354@reddit

No. Cosplaying is faking, I’m saying they aren’t faking being normal.

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fakesaucisse@reddit

Ehhh, Mormons blend into the rest of society pretty well. They don't dress differently, they work normal corporate jobs, their kids go to mainstream schools, they speak standard English without an accent. For some reason I am a Mormon magnet in the PNW, and I only ever really find out the people I meet are Mormon or ex-Mormon when I randomly mention that my husband grew up in a FLDS community.

Probably different if you live in Utah or specific parts of Idaho/Arizona/Nevada, but elsewhere they really don't advertise it in everyday life.

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Knittin_hats@reddit

You are the first person I've found on reddit to be familiar with the anabaptists. Hats off to you, sir or ma'am.

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riarws@reddit

I would be the second! But go hang out in r/askhistorians if you would like to meet more.

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RichardAboutTown@reddit

I've discovered that there is at least one Amish community here near the Black Hills. But otherwise I was here to say exactly this. There is a Mormon worship space a few blocks from our house and we saw a pair of missionaries downtown the other day. Wyoming is a western state and a lot like Utah and Idaho so that part stands unchallenged.

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SinfullySinatra@reddit

They are both cults that consider themselves Christian. Both are anti-gay, big on purity, treat women as less, and such. The standard teachings in Christian based cults. But other than that the similarities end. Mormons are more closely comparable to Jehovah’s Witnesses while Amish are closer to Mennonites.

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TipsyBaker_@reddit

Not similar at all.

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Academic_Solid85@reddit

I don’t think they are the same at all. I deal and work with the Amish on a weekly basis so maybe I’m biased. The Amish are very nice and extremely hard working, they are very blunt though. Also it’s important to speak slowly because their education levels aren’t always to where you’d expect a normal adults to be. I don’t have a lot of experience with the Mormons but they are mainly out west in Utah. The only time I’ve met mormons is when they come to your front door and try to convert you to Mormonism. Also the Amish don’t try to make you become Amish… they dont really bring it up.

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IsopodKey2040@reddit

No, they're very different. Amish people live in very rural areas. Mormons are often just suburban people who think coffee is evil or something.

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IsopodKey2040@reddit

Also, Amish people are a lot more strict with lifestyle and will cut you off and shun you if you go against the community.

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Salty-Impress5827@reddit

Depends on the order. There is variety in Amish and Mennonite communities on how strict. And you'd be surprised at the number of Amish people who hire the English to drive them to work. Some have phones. A lot of them are lovely people. Although I've met some Old Order who barely tolerate the English. (Source: grew up in Amish country.) That level of legalism makes me sad when there is freedom in Christ.

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DanteRuneclaw@reddit

In fairness, I think Mormons will do that too. But, then, lots of religions do.

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shelwood46@reddit

They both subjugate women about the same though.

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Ok_Orchid1004@reddit

Completely different and do not live in the same regions at all.

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MovieAshamed4140@reddit

Like comparing apples to oranges. Completely different religious sects. Read about them.

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BankManager69420@reddit

Completely different denominations.

Amish is a conservative Anabaptist group that notably abstain from most modern technology, live in secluded communities almost exclusively in the rust belt, and dress in old-fashioned clothing.

Mormonism is a restorationist denomination that tend to live normal lives, dress and act like anyone else, and, while there’s a large population in the western US, live everywhere.

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shelwood46@reddit

The Amish are great with food, a whole cuisine, great bakeries. The Mormons are... well, they have funeral potatoes and soda with milk in it. Thankfully I live closer to the Amish, here in PA.

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amyn2511@reddit

Hey man, Amish food may be superior, but I’ll enjoy funeral potatoes and Swig sodas any chance I get too.

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SparklingSaturnRing@reddit

Don’t forget the coffee creamer in pop, I hear Mormons love that

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Shhshhshhshhnow@reddit

They are quite different in their beliefs and lifestyles. Some generalizations:

Amish - minimal technology use, homeschooled, strong community ties and priority, live mostly in the Midwest/Eastern states and typically live on a “compound”.

Mormons - no tech restrictions, family oriented more than the whole but still very community based, heavy population in “mountain” state region (UT,ID,NM,CO), typically live in suburbs and do attend public school

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Katesouthwest@reddit

Amish often have their own schools, with the grades all combined in the same school, not necessarily homeschooled.The teacher is usually a young unmarried woman. Young Amish children often speak PA Dutch at home and learn to speak English when they begin kindergarten or first grade.

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blipsman@reddit

Very different other than Christian sect.

Amish live mostly in the East and Midwest (Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Iowa) and dress and live a very simple, old fashioned life as if their lifestyle hasn’t changed in 150 years.

Mormons live normal, modern lifestyle but refrain from alcohol & caffeine.

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Individual_Slice_234@reddit

They're miles apart. No, they don't live in the same regions.

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Curious_Owl78@reddit

Not true. Amish have moved to East Tn and established large communities here. Mennonites have lived here for generations.

So, while they are different in beliefs, they do now live in the same areas in some states.

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Far_Silver@reddit

Amish and Mennonites are similar and in a lot of states live in the same general areas. Amish and Mormons are another story.

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cans-of-swine@reddit

So their beliefs are miles apart and they live miles apart.

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thedawntreader85@reddit

Joseph Smith, founder of Mormonism, is basically the American Mohammad minus the warlord part.

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Ok-Walk-8040@reddit

They are almost nothing alike. The Amish live a traditional life often in their own communities in Appalachia and parts of the midwest. They aren't very integrated into American society.

Mormons live mostly in Utah and the surrounding areas, but there are Mormons everywhere in the state. They are well-integrated into society. You wouldn't know they are Mormon unless it is brought up somehow. However, an Amish person you may never meet because they tend to live in their own communities.

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machagogo@reddit

Very, very different, and genreally spekaing no, they don't live near each other.

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Prof01Santa@reddit

They're both Christian sects. One from Germany, one from Ohio. Not a lot else in common beyond both believing in supernatural malarkey.

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Katesouthwest@reddit

Very generally, the state of Utah is heavily Mormon. There are also a large number of Mormons in Las Vegas, NV, to name just 2 places.

The 3 states with the most Amish are PA, OH (especially Holmes County), and northern Indiana. There are smaller Amish groups in other states such as Michigan, Florida, Iowa, and Kentucky. The Amish are considered Anabaptist, as are the Mennonites and Hutterites. Within the Amish and Mennonites, there are subgroups, some of which are a lot more conservative than other subgroups. One set of my grandparents were the first ancestors in our family in a couple hundred years who were not raised Old Order Amish.

Mormons and Anabaptists live very different lifestyles as far as modern conveniences go.

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Responsible-Chest-26@reddit

You may be thinking of Mennonites

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Zornytoad@reddit

Very different. The Amish are descended from Mennonites(?) in Germany or Holland before emigrating to the USA. They don’t believe in recent technology, and a lot of them don’t have electricity, ride horse and buggies around sequestered communities in Pennsylvania to other parts of the Midwest.

They observe older traditions based in Europe, and are a sort of break away sub culture from American mainstream. But they are a Christian tradition that tries to resist modern advancement.

The Mormons originate in upstate New York with Joseph Smith, who claims to have found stones I think, or golden plates saying people in this religion are here to change Christianity. What became Mormonism is trying to evolve and change Christianity, they send their young men out every year on mission trips to try to convert people in other countries. The Amish don’t try to spread a message.

The Amish have largely stayed in the same areas their whole history in the USA, but Mormons have moved around the USA, being exiled out of a few communities in Ohio, and Illinois, before finally settling in Utah. They have loose similarities, but are pretty different.

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RelativelyRidiculous@reddit

The Amish are a small religious subset of the group historically referred to as the Pennsylvania Dutch. They were a group of German-speaking immigrants who settled in Pennsylvania in the 17th and 18th centuries. Dutch is a misnomer that came from "Deutsch". While they historically were centralized in the area of Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Indiana, they now have communities in 30 states including large ones in Texas, Michigan, and Missouri.

Mormons originated in upstate New York around 1830 and migrated to Ohio, Illinois, and Missouri prior to eventually temporarily residing in Nebraska on their way to settle in Utah. Now they've built up communities across the US through their evangelism so yes at times they've been near each other.

While the two share some foundational beliefs like divinity of Jesus, community service, and strict moral codes, their lifestyles and practices vary sharply. For one thing the Amish don't have a central hierarchy like Mormons do, and they don't seek converts nor proselytize. I would venture the Mormons are one of the most evangelical religious groups and the Amish are certainly one of the least. Mormons also embrace modern technology, higher education, and most participate in modern society fully so the exact opposite of Amish insular lifestyle and avoidance of technology and the outside world.

As far as I know they probably mostly get along but I have heard of several kerfluffles involving Mormons converting Amish people here in Texas. Outside of that I haven't heard of anything, and even that is apparently very rare.

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StrawberryAqua@reddit

Neither church baptizes babies. Amish are baptized at age 16 after dipping their toes into the mainstream world. Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are baptized at age 8 or older.

Sometimes we members of the Church dress as pioneers and push handcarts just for the experience, but otherwise are grounded in our own times.

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Silly_Personality_73@reddit

The Amish don't get along well with morons.

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WritPositWrit@reddit

You’re confusing Mormons & Mennonites

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Hwy_Witch@reddit

They are not similar.

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MonsieurRuffles@reddit

The Amish have Rumspringa. Mormons have missions.

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A_711_Hotdog@reddit

You may be thinking of Mennonites

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Optimal_Shirt6637@reddit

These are totally different.

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Nozomi_Shinkansen@reddit

Entirely different. How similar are apples and elephants?

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suboptimus_maximus@reddit

LOL, Mormons are mostly like on the opposite side of the country because they were violently driven out of the United States, they walked all they way to the Great Salt Lake to get the hell away.

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LifeIsAChessFail@reddit

The Amish peoples are relatively common here in Michigan. What I respect about the Amish is that all children are allowed time to explore life outside their community and children may chose to remain Amish or to move out to the world permanently. I worked in agriculture so that I had business with Amish and Mennonites and found them a gentle and kind folk.

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Peoplechangetoo@reddit

The only similarity is that they tend to have numerous kids. 8 to 12 children in a family is not unusual.

Amish don't use technology in their daily living. They don't drive cars, they use a horse and carriage. Mormons use technology.

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StupidLemonEater@reddit

How similar are the Amish and the Mormons?

They're both minority Christian sects and that's about all they have in common.

Do they generally live in the same regions?

No. The Amish are concentrated in Pennsylvania, western New York, the Midwest, and the Ohio Valley. Mormons live predominantly in Utah and surrounding states.

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yurinator71@reddit

You will have to do your own research. I wil not be that can of worms today!

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NekoMao92@reddit

Both are Christian offshoots.

Amish tend to speak a form of Dutch/German and most are around Pennsylvania. I've never meet an Amish person. All Amish as far as I know of are White.

Mormons are biggest in Utah/Idaho, though they can be almost everywhere. They are very much a highly organized cult, you have to be at certain ranks within the church to be able to access some areas of a Temple.

A friend whose BIL became a Mormom, alienated his entire family because he didn't invite any of his family to his wedding because they were not Mormom's and thus were not able to enter the Temple where his wedding was. I've meet a few Mormoms, they were all "odd" in some way. I've encountered Mormon Elders (basically teenagers/young adults that ride around on bicycles, that I think are out to promote the faith) that are Asian, Black, and Hispanic, though most Mormoms are White.

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AQuixoticQuandary@reddit

Not at all. Look up BYU students. That’s what Mormons look like.

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PghSubie@reddit

Different regions, different languages, different beliefs They're nothing alike

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Financial_Island2353@reddit

Lol this question is so funny to me

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Corner_Office_@reddit

Amish are Christian.

Mormons are Mormon. They have their own book.

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Responsible-View-804@reddit

Very different,

The Amish are the most well known of the Anabaptist movement. Mostly in Pennsylvania, heavily German cultured, by and large reject “fancy living” what what that is varies group to group.

Mormons are much younger, very different theology and based out of Utah

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CurrencyCapital8882@reddit

Almost nothing in common aside from large families and a culty vibe.

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leeloocal@reddit

I grew up Mormon, and the Amish are nothing like the LDS church. That being said, the FLDS and other fundamentalist groups that were Mormon tend to be slightly similar to the Amish, in that they eschew “worldly” things like mainstream media and they tend to live very simply.

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manicpixidreamgirl04@reddit

They're not similar at all.

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Murky-General5131@reddit

I am from the Midwest. My great grandfather left the Amish to marry my great grand mother. They are nothing a like

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prickmoranis@reddit

FLDS (fundamentalist mormons) do share some similarities with the amish in terms of dress, and some habits of being in an insular community. (homestyle cooking, homeschooling, farming, living in compounds)

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Appropriate-Food1757@reddit

Very different lives and regions. Mormons are like regular mainstream folks. Amish are living in the year 1800

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mothertuna@reddit

No. Amish are typically in places like Pennsylvania, Ohio and whatnot. Mormons are mostly in Utah maybe some in Idaho. They are not similar. Mormons are modern like the rest of us while Amish are not.

You may be thinking of Mennonites which are diet Amish. Not as plainly dressed and will drive cars but usually don’t listen to secular music or watch tv. I grew up going to a Mennonite church.

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cultural-orca@reddit

Is this coming from that lego meme?

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CarmelaSopranoNo1fan@reddit

Do you mean Mennonites ?

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partsguy64@reddit

Mennonites are kinda like Amish Lite.

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z0phi3l@reddit

What about the Hutterites?

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WestBrink@reddit

Commie Amish

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z0phi3l@reddit

HA!

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WildMartin429@reddit

They're completely different things all together. And they don't generally tend to live in the same regions. Technically Mormons are everywhere but concentrated in Utah the Amish or concentrated in the Northeast specifically around Pennsylvania. Mormons are just normal people that have a second religious text that has a lot of odd things in it. They're also more aggressive at proselytizing. The Amish Askew technology that they feel interferes with living a righteous life I'm not entirely certain what that line is.

I think what you were thinking about instead of Mormons was Mennonites. Mennonites are a little bit more widespread we have a Mennonite community near where I live in Tennessee. They're kind of like Amish but they get to use tractors for their farming instead of just horses.

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canisdirusarctos@reddit

Not even remotely similar

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MesaAdelante@reddit

Not similar at all. Mormons can live anywhere. They have a "headquarters" in Salt Lake City, and a high percentage of believers in Utah, but they are not limited in where they live. While they have rules, like any religion, they are not as restrictive as the Amish.

The Amish are very different. They are generally descended from German religious groups that immigrated a long time ago. The vast majority live in rural areas of PA, OH, and IN. Unlike Mormons they have rules that require them to eschew modern technology, even cars. They still speak a dialect of German, too.

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