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Why is Serbia so bad at football?

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Why is Serbia so bad at football?

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akatosh86@reddit

For a non-Balkan casual WC watcher, the consistent success of Croatia and relative lack of success of Serbia never made too much sense: more or less similarly-sized countries with more or less similar physical attributes (height does matter in football), long and proud sporting cultures, but one often reaches WC semifinals and even a final, while the other doesn't get qualified. I don't expect to get an unbiased answer for this, but still
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Impressive-Picture52@reddit

Serbia is almost 2x the size of croatia in terms of population and area, so by no means they are similar in terms of size. Also same can be said about basketball, both countries have tradition but Serbia is currently world class, while Croatia cannot even qualify
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hzgfbjhztrffff22@reddit

almost 2x size? bruh pls,check data first
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karlowolf05@reddit

It pretty much is, 6.5 milion vs 3.8
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hzgfbjhztrffff22@reddit

Oo,I thought he was reffering to terittory....my bad
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Impressive-Picture52@reddit

Terittory is 89k vs 56k km2 so almost the same story, its 60% bigger and it has 74% higher population.
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Training_Shine_111@reddit

Both countries are corrupt, but Croatia has a longer term vision. Why bed with Israeli now and ruin your topflight academies, while you can build stars that will rack you millions year over year? Height only matters in football for certain positions by the way. The current top midfield players are rather short. Players on the wings are also quite short most of the time. Goalkeeper, Central Defence and Strikers seem to have an edge.
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CamelAmbitious7425@reddit

Ironically, in basketball, it's the other way around.
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jajebivjetar@reddit

Basketball used to be popular in Croatia. Croatia won 2nd place at the 1992 Barcelona Olympics. They lost to Jordan and his team.
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Apolon6@reddit

Well funny enough a year before that Zvezda won the Champions League.
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shiro_1602@reddit

It all started when Montenegro got their own team.
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Svez1@reddit

Football is probably the most corruption ridden sport here - from the bottom of the bottom leagues straight to the top. Individuals that break through internationally and start earning real money start acting like they forgot from where they came from. Dont even get me started on managerial role - last decent menager we had was Radomir Antic and after him probably Muslin, rest are forgettable...
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jankeyass@reddit

My recollection from when I was a kid and watched it live, was that Serbia was full of very talented players, who could never play as a team
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One_Ad_3499@reddit

Something happend in the second part of the Piksi term. From being inches away for Nations League playoffs to this fall is staggering.
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Ok_Wing_9523@reddit

Caci country caci sports 
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vastzero@reddit

Kakav forgettable.... They haunt my memories with their "tactics" and "strategy". 😢
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Proper_Ad4858@reddit

Cus from lowest to highest position with the management for sports is lead by incompetent people, put in by more incompetent people who are part of the ruling political party which are incompetent yet again. If the teams in Serbia were not part of political scene it would be so different. Not saying we would dominate, but the coach and others would actually have a say in things. Which players get to play, which do not, which can be kicked out. And honestly, aside from couple of players most of the team is either old or bad, which is okay for local leagues like our own league in Serbia, but in world comp, you can not go with players who can actively run 30 mins and next 60 spend walking around. You can not have 4 players in defensive line setting up offside trap, where 2-3 players actually move and others are always late. So long as politics is inside the teams, we will stay bad.
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Positive_End_7568@reddit

They brought hookers for them to fuck, instead they decided to marry them.
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TheRealTorpidu@reddit

They’re only good att unaliving women and children.
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okramv@reddit

We're ok People always expect us to be god tier, but that isn't realistic
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deviendrais@reddit

They didn’t let me play in their team and now they’re suffering the consequences
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Prudent-Werewolf3712@reddit

They didn’t let this dude play and now they suck.
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Zarktheshark1818@reddit

I remember seeing the roster and first thought was why the hell did they leave off Devieendrais. Now we're going to suck.
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nistemevideli2puta@reddit

Nah, you could play as much you want to, without my *superior* armchair football manager knowledge, the NT will be doomed forever.
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ecosludge@reddit

I’ve been saying this for a while now
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Barbak86@reddit

Hear me out. What if the Serb players bet on themselves loosing an unloosable game and made a bunch of money together with the people backing them (politics) ?
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realtennisguy@reddit

SMS, is that you?
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SadMycologist1203@reddit

Nah, you just failed to qualify
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ManVSReddit@reddit

You were too reliant on the republics once you were reduced to just Serbia it became apparent you were always shit 
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SuspiciousMaximum265@reddit

If that was the case Serbia would be bad in all sports but it is not. Basketball, Serbia regularly wins medals in all competitions. Individually, Serbian players were MVPs of the the NBA and Euroleague multiple times. Tennis, best player of all times. Waterpolo, one the best teams in history. We were more than decent in voleyball and handball in the past, but again, corruption takes its toll. On the other hand, Albania was never good in any sport, except maybe wrestling? They never even qualified for the World Cup and their best result in history is qualifying for the Euro twice. Also, Albania has never participated in a team sport at the Olympic Games. So if Serbia is shit, where does that put Albania?
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deviendrais@reddit

Who hurt you lil bro
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Disturb3dSilence@reddit

Other Repubics besides Croatia are also shit in football nor do they have any noticable success. Even though Serbian football is utter shit they still have more success than Albania (winners of u20 World Cup, better ranked in FIFA, more World Cup appearances, better ranked in Nations League).
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Ok_Suggestion_6640@reddit

You here can shut up he asked Serbians not Serbia haters
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Zizzyin@reddit

Please Red Star let this man play in your next game.
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CmdrJemison@reddit

This is the only right answer
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ImportantResponse0@reddit

As a Romanian I believe you guys won the whole thing and that is.
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Wild_cmpt6406@reddit

We got good footballers, individual players of world class. But the national selection is a mirror image of our country, of the masses, the people collective.
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edgeofsock@reddit

We have 1 world class player
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communistic_carl@reddit

Which one?
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edgeofsock@reddit

Well Pavlović can be called that. Maybe not "world world class" but he is up there.
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Odd_Bodybuilder_4772@reddit

Then you don’t know what world class means. He is nowhere near any class.
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edgeofsock@reddit

Ok
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arhisekta92@reddit

Pavlovič. lol.. I recall times when we had Vidić, Ivanović, Subotić and Kolarov in the back line.. Pavlović as far as I remember him (I dont watch football for 15 years) just looks like a high effort tall wing back.. Nowhere near the mentioned players. The drop is real, and even then our team was flawed af..
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_trba_@reddit

“i dont watch football for 15 years” than proceeds with the feedback on the situation in football is the most serbian thing to do connect with football
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arhisekta92@reddit

I only watched World Cup games, and those are the conclusions. I don't need to pretend like Red Star and Partizan are football clubs, let alone follow whats going on. But i accept your funny comment
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_trba_@reddit

i agree with you, it’s just funny
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One_Ad_3499@reddit

Like who? Tadic is gone and Mitro and SMS are turning into camels
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Catman_192@reddit

We definitely had world class players before, especially when we had Vidic, buut nowadays who is even world class player anymore who play's for very strong club? I think that even quality of our players dropped overtime.
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Aromatic_Dot_9536@reddit

No we do not, these players are probably the worst one in the history, there is no one player thats important in top5 league.
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SuspiciousMaximum265@reddit

Not really, we had good players in the past, but didn't had the team. Now we have neither.
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Remarkable_Pepper281@reddit

Imagine losing to Cape Verde haha. An entire country with less people than your capital. Not to mention the difference between both their fifa rankings
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GoHardLive@reddit

Cape Verde actually qualified for the world cup this year
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branimir2208@reddit

They play in african division and that division is much easier than european division.
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Training_Shine_111@reddit

African division much easier? Serbia played against England, Albania, Latvia, & Andorra. Seriously my guy? 4 out of 5 of these teams wouldn't qualify in Africa. Cape Verde had to beat Cameroon to qualify. You seriously think Serbia can beat Cameroon? At being corrupt perhaps. Which is impressive, because Cameroon football association is among the most corrupt in Africa.
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branimir2208@reddit

I know that, I am just telling how is Cape Verde going to world cup.
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Disturb3dSilence@reddit

Serbia played against Cameroon in 2022 and it ended in 3-3, they even could have won if not for stupid mistakes, they are not really that special.
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Oldeuboi91@reddit

Lol as a Bulgarian watch us get spanked by Iceland in autumn for the Nations League. A country with less population than Plovdiv.
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AndrewM96@reddit

Haha, it was just a friendly.
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Snoo-19350@reddit

Yeah, otherwise they'd have beaten us 6-0
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alkorisno@reddit

Shoudve stayed in yugoslavia
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One_Ad_3499@reddit

Something happend in the second part of the Piksi term. From being inches away for Nations League playoffs to this fall is staggering.
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krisvelde@reddit

SNS football association, not serbian
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CataphractBunny@reddit

If you take into account that Croatia is just Catholic Serbia, they're quite good at it. 😆
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PureAfternoon3633@reddit

Druze hrvati lome u fudbalu, ne pratim nesto spec ove trenutno ali uglavnom igraju po skupim klubovima. Kad je reprezentacija u pitanju mrzi ih valjda ili tako nesto ?!
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Milan_Leri@reddit

So it has something to do with being Catholic...
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Sharp-Membership-633@reddit

😂😂 2 times almost winner of wc, Sea Serbs are no joke in soccer
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CataphractBunny@reddit

And the Alpine Serbs are wrecking it in skiing and ski jumps. 😂
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Catman_192@reddit

Alpine Serbs are also good in football, they were better than us in the last euro and even almost eliminated Portugal. So yeah Catholic and Alpine Serbs are no joke.
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Prudent-Werewolf3712@reddit

Alpine Serbs picked up cycling and are killing it.
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Glum-Variety3374@reddit

Nah still bad
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Victor_likes_Chopin@reddit

We need vanja fr
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1970ivan@reddit

Basically corruption and planned destruction of our football since the 1990s when the state let the mafia in football from where they got money. This particular loss is because the players cannot openly boycott the team because the mafia will make their life hell, so they boycott by playing like shit and losing on purpose. When Vucic falls the rebuilding will begin, until then there will be no results.
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Training_Shine_111@reddit

these players are spoiled and corrupt themselves. Most of them party with Ćaci  at any opportunity they have.
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SvetDigital@reddit

Because they don't want only Bulgaria to have retarded national football team.
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eminemforehead@reddit

cause all the talent went into that one tennis player who might be the greatest of all time. Italy has the same problem, just on a smaller scale
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amazingamy19@reddit

Jokic is literally 3x NBA MVP
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eminemforehead@reddit

my bad I didn't know he was italian
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amazingamy19@reddit

Can’t be good at every collective sport i guess. Somethings gotta give.
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ImportantResponse0@reddit

What other sport do you guys play? Hockey?
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Threshio@reddit

Brother, Basketball?? Volleyball? Waterpolo?
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amazingamy19@reddit

Yeah, we actually excel at hockey.
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ImportantResponse0@reddit

So, did it sounded harsh? Because I just wanted to check? Also just checked, water polo is apparently among the sports you know how to play. Nice sport.
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amazingamy19@reddit

Yeah well, nothing says landlocked like an Olympic gold at… waterpolo.
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ImportantResponse0@reddit

You can come to Romanian (our) see side. Also maybe you guys have lakes where you can play polo
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amazingamy19@reddit

No, we only have shitty communist pools. Thanks for the invite, hopefully someday.
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ImportantResponse0@reddit

It was once a joke made by a Romanian comedian that once the stadiums quality improved we become worse at football because it is harder to play on bad stadium with hard balls(the balls weren't regular they were extra hard). So maybe this is why you are winning, they see the quality of polls at the Olympics and are like "this is easier than home".
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amazingamy19@reddit

lol. Who knows really, I guess we will have to find someone else to cheer for? Did you guys qualify? We could cheer for you.
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ImportantResponse0@reddit

We didn't even qualified for FIFA
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amazingamy19@reddit

So we both are shit 🤝
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Sasquale@reddit

Yeah, I am actually surprised how you guys are so good at many of them. Is there a sort of program?
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amazingamy19@reddit

There was a strong sport culture in former Yugoslavia, that translated into Serbia. Everyone stars some kind of sport, from a young age. It’s almost expected. Also, on average, we are tall nation, so that helps in sports.
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Sasquale@reddit

Yeah, the height average gives such an edge. Brazil excels at football because it's everywhere, but the sports we are good, it's because we have a sort of program on them. By the way, do you guys start at a club or at school? What sport did you play specifically?
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amazingamy19@reddit

I’m a girl, so I did volleyball for maybe two and a half years, but I also played an instrument, and decided to prioritise that. As for boys, mostly football, there are bunch of teams/schools/camps they can join, before they even start school. And then they train and compete, and some of them quit and some of them go to local leagues. Also, we have basketball courts everywhere, and guys play outdoors all the time, recreationally, and it’s basically available for everyone. So a lot of kids, especially tall kids go for basketball.
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RaYneX-X@reddit

SO WHY DID YOU MENTION THAT YOU'RE A GIRL? IS THAT SO COOL, FRIEND?! YOU COULD HAVE SAID THIS AS A USER TOO! ARE YOU A GIRL, MY GOD? AMONG 3 OR 4 BILLION GIRLS, YOU MUST BE THE MOST SPECIAL, MY GOD!
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Sasquale@reddit

Yeah, but we also have 200m of people, we should be better, haha. In a sense, we are a poor country, and infrastructure counts a lot - alongside with specific genetics and culture around the sport. P.s: I am surprised that there has this dictomy of football/basketball being for men and volleyball for girls like in Brazil. Well, I played volley and was called gay lol
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amazingamy19@reddit

It doesn’t matter, don’t cut yourself short. Being so successful at the most popular sport in the world is a great success, regardless of the population size. lol, no one considered male volleyball players gay, we actually followed guys around, and watch them play, it just wasn’t first or second option for boys, like football/basketball.
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Sasquale@reddit

I see. Volleyball here is the only sport that there are players openly gay.
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TheWhiteFeather1915@reddit

Brazil is home of football, and also it's the most accessible sport out there. The population count is not THAT important, I mean you have nations of 1.5B people that never amount to anything in any major sport. Former Yugoslav people have a mix of different factors going for them, one is average height being quite high, another is historical emphasis on sports in general and physical activity, then there's the geography itself, you have tourists who come and their legs kill them from the terrain which Balkaners are used to, and then there's just very competitive mentality of proving themselves
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ShitassAintOverYet@reddit

Nah, your basketball and volleyball branches are ok.
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Svez1@reddit

Volleyball is unfortunately dead now
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ShitassAintOverYet@reddit

We called basketball dead before Alperen Şengün existed and players like Furkan Korkmaz and Cedi Osman were still bench warmers at the NBA. If a country had established culture on a sport at some point it usually bounces back sometime.
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PersimmonTall8157@reddit

Football is the only sport that matters
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amazingamy19@reddit

.. to you?
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PersimmonTall8157@reddit

To the world
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AdWonderful3621@reddit

Corruption in football is massive. Young players can reach national team if their father is some big head or big money... Real talents are waisted...
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Disturb3dSilence@reddit

Unfortunately this is what happens when your whole Football Association is corrupt to the core, Nemanja Vidic tried to make things better but they didn't want him there and elected a senile old lapdog and yes man of the current regime, they did the same to Basketball and Waterpolo Association where Serbia is pretty successful in those sports , would not be surprised if downfall starts there too.
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prettyawesome2know@reddit

Same happened in Bulgaria, Berbatov tried to lead the organisation but the corruption led by a one fake hair guy did not let him. Later the fake hair guy was changed to another mini version of him who barely finished 8th grade at school. Later the fake hair guy died and everyone was sad because he was a goalie of the national team 30 years. The illiterate guy though is still leading the circus in memory of the fake hair guy. Rip peruka
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cocoadusted@reddit

Who tf is Cape Verde
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Barbak86@reddit

Hear me out. What if the Serb players bet on themselves loosing an unloosable game and made a bunch of money together with the people backing them (politics) ?
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tavi2424@reddit

Serbia is the kind of team who can loose today against Cape Verde and beat Brazil tomorrow .
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Barbak86@reddit

Not lately
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Catman_192@reddit

Maybe a few years ago, but not even that anymore.
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Specialist_Elk140@reddit

Yeah, they do seem to be very unpredictable when it comes to results. One game can be terrible and the other can be world class.
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Lextalionis82@reddit

Name one thing that servia is good
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Disturb3dSilence@reddit

Pretty much in most sports than Albania
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No_Bodybuilder_4826@reddit

best players are in schevenigen
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Available-Badger-163@reddit

Many footbalers dont put in the effort as they do for their clubs beacuse the national team dosent pay as much.
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Rrrrockstarrrr@reddit

Since Vučić destroyed FC Partizan. They created players like Mitrović and Vlahović, getting big bucks for players and bought cheaper but great foreign players. That had to be stopped. In no point of time we didn't had worse players than today and it will be keep getting even worse. Same in basketball.
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Business-Map9514@reddit

Cape Verde has a good team!!
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M--P@reddit

Politics.
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vvuukk@reddit

they didnt let u/deviendrais play
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Catman_192@reddit

I know this is just a friendly, but I mean losing that much to an island country that has less than a milion people. This is definitely an embaressment. There is a reason why I don't watch serbian football anymore.
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Secure_Jeweler8145@reddit

We're hopeless. I legit stopped watching our team. I'm rooting for Bosnia and Croatia in two weeks. Show the world,there's meat burek only!!!
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arcollll@reddit

i knew serbia was struggling the moment they coudnt beat our bums, TWICE
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Catman_192@reddit

You were right, I remember these matches. After the first match that was very bad for us, I was like "ok maybe they were relaxed to much, it's summer" But after the second match that was also awful, I was like "This is so bad, we are gonna screw in euro, but hey atleast we are there", I didn't even celebrate, I was just laughing at them. We had the easiest group in qualification for euro's, that we could ever had and yet we managed barely to go through.
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TheFuckGotStuck@reddit

We were supposed to lose at least 1 of those games but Lazovic(i think) saved us with last minute goal...
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miskozicar@reddit

Bad sport managers. Football attracts lowest level of local corporate sponsors that start managing sport clubs.
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DarkoDragicevic@reddit

C team 
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lungsofdoom@reddit

Its funny because our nation is obsessed with football, yet we suck so hard
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oblivion_mike@reddit

They refuse to have Albanians or Croats playing under their flag? 🤷🏻‍♂️
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-Passenger-@reddit

No sane Albanian or Croatian would play under that flag
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Aromatic_Dot_9536@reddit

Why wouldn't you, already did it once hehe
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-Passenger-@reddit

I am sure you weren't around at that time if you didnt noticed the difference in the flag
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Leading-Attempt-7364@reddit

Kosovo is better then Serbia in football hahahahaahah.
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Aromatic_Dot_9536@reddit

Kosovo is better then Albania and Serbia combine
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laakii@reddit

Sport in Serbia is going to shit, football first basketball is second.
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Aromatic_Dot_9536@reddit

Everything falling apart even waterpolo, this fucking goverment has fucked up pretty much everything.
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GoHardLive@reddit

What is more popular in serbia football or basketball ?
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Aromatic_Dot_9536@reddit

Football by large margin, but lots of coruption in the system and bad eneregy inside of team.
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Hezzyo@reddit

They didn't let dendrivais play for them
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deviendrais@reddit

I would’ve probably quit the team randomly for a couple of weeks once the Silk Song DLC came out
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Trody34@reddit

As a portuguese, I'm aware of Cape Verde's quality. They're real pros, experienced, and play in good leagues. They're qualifying campaign was brilliant, basically qualified with one game left. Underestimate them at your own peril
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brokencasserole@reddit

It wasn't the full team.
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unknown78889@reddit

While this is true, I feel like Serbia's C team would've won this 10-15 years ago
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pera001@reddit

All-knowing president Vučić assembled the team.
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casual_philosopher02@reddit

because they don't have a football coach that is the equivalent of Obradovic
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anewerab@reddit

Marco Nicolic oeoeoeoeoeoeoeoe But he is making AEK great again so hold your horses..
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Content-Departure-77@reddit

We dont even have football coach equivalent of Sasa Obradovic :)
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amazingamy19@reddit

We actually have one that is the opposite 😂
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AssignmentLast942@reddit

Because Football is a teamsport and the Serbs sucks at that.
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DeathByAttempt@reddit

The world is taking their good players
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petrosteve@reddit

Even without corruption, we would still suck
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-Passenger-@reddit

![gif](giphy|wGyYUcp2XpWr86SVcL)
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canyoubelieveitt@reddit

Wait til you see how Bulgaria managed to speedrun from Golden Ball winner and 4th in the world to not qualifying for ANY big tournament since 20 years and counting. All within the span of 30 years total.
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Financial-Newt2291@reddit

They more than make up for it in basketball.
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Igorius_Basterd@reddit

But this wasn‘t the question. I read about an article about serbia having one of the best academies for youngsters, plus the kids there were full of talent, but due to corruption an greed it all went in the wrong direction
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Financial-Newt2291@reddit

That’s interesting, I just figured they don’t prioritize the infrastructure for that sport. It’s bad enough Bosnia has so much politics in soccer, shame to see it’s not exclusive.
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Accomplished_Box5103@reddit

![gif](giphy|d2eGyVnX3nUxROCtVO|downsized)
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Etsikaietsi@reddit

Who is this Turkish gentleman I keep seeing?
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Hot-Struggle-5193@reddit

999% they sold the match or made match fix
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binevv@reddit

Because you haven’t seen Bulgaria. Serbia is a lot better at football
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Prigorec-Medjimurec@reddit

They put all their points into being a functioning country... And still failed
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Sharp-Membership-633@reddit

Do you feel better when you talk bad about Serbia ?
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Prigorec-Medjimurec@reddit

I am a Croat, being only a little better than Serbia is all we have :)
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amazingamy19@reddit

This is football tho, you are a lot better.
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Sharp-Membership-633@reddit

🫱🏾‍🫲🏿🫱🏾‍🫲🏿🫱🏾‍🫲🏿
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Motor_Papaya5415@reddit

Sadly, I think hatred makes such people very happy
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Sharp-Membership-633@reddit

Idk maybe it was some kind of bad joke, hard to tell on Reddit sometimes 😂😂
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amazingamy19@reddit

It does. He was the first one here 😂
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UnhappyBreadfruit607@reddit

Croatia not have taken all the coastline they also taken all the football success aswell
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vaniush_za_great@reddit

Cape Verde qualified for the world cup. They won their qualifying group above Cameroon, which had a draw with Serbia at the previous world cup
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jv_valvasor@reddit

Betting scam.
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Infamous_Reporter_71@reddit

It's because of ustashi
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Shqiptar89@reddit

Karma
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Oudeis_1618@reddit

What is Cape Verde? Sounds Latin to me
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ActuatorNew6203@reddit

https://preview.redd.it/uxshpuwrci4h1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b041b8d1cf4ad149e9f815f67efd263984191c58
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amazingamy19@reddit

I literally don’t know. But they managed to beat us, so congrats to this country..😂
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Motor_Papaya5415@reddit

Corruption ruined football in Serbia, nobody believes even they will ever do something
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AcanthisittaSure9251@reddit

Even I didn’t think it would be possible to lose to Cabo Verde. The fact that Serbia got no points at all just adds to it.
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terra_filius@reddit

and I thought we were bad at football
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Western_Rock9414@reddit

They beat us every time, în fact all of the fotbalul teams from the former Yugoslavia kick the shit out of us, but here is Cape Verde... what the heck
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GoryGent@reddit

All points in basketball
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branimir2208@reddit

Because it wasn't played on our new national stadium./s
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PasicT@reddit

They are going through many changes and a transition period, such losses are to be expected. Cape Verde might not be a great team but they will be at the World Cup, it's not like losing 3-0 to Rwanda or something.
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Delicious_March_838@reddit

Because they are the best at racism.
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