CFI Initial Study Help?
Posted by Outside_Emphasis_688@reddit | flying | View on Reddit | 9 comments
Hey everyone,
Starting to dig into my CFI initial and looking for some direction from people who've been through it. I've started going through the FOI material and it's definitely new and a bit confusing but that's expected since it's totally different from anything else I've studied. What resources or study materials did you find most helpful getting through it? Also curious what your oral was like and what areas the DPE really pushed on, and how the flight portion of the checkride went. Just want to get a good overall picture of everything that's covered and what I should be focused on. Any advice is appreciated, thanks.
spacecadet2399@reddit
What do you mean by "FOI material"? The only thing you really need for that is the Aviation Instructor's Handbook. You should be reading through that cover to cover at least twice. That is probably 80% of the new stuff you'll be asked on your oral exam, and I'm always shocked at how many CFI candidates have never even looked at it. The vast majority of my oral exam was lifted straight out of the book, almost verbatim.
The other 20% is going to be split between endorsements and the lessons you'll be asked to teach, which the ACS will guide you on. Like every other checkride, make sure you know the CFI ACS front to back. A lot of it *should* be things you already know, although you obviously want to review them to make sure you can answer any questions about them at an instructor level. But you're going to need to teach at least one lesson as well, so you'll want to pay really close attention to that task because it will be totally new to you.
Make sure you are well familiar with AC 61-65. K seems to be the latest version at this point, but that could change I guess.
spacecadet2399@reddit
What do you mean by "FOI material"? The only thing you really need for that is the Aviation Instructor's Handbook. You should be reading through that cover to cover at least twice. That is probably 90% of the new stuff you'll be asked on your oral exam, and I'm always shocked at how many CFI candidates have never even looked at it.
The other 10% is going to be the lessons you'll be asked to teach, which the ACS will guide you on. Like every other checkride, make sure you know the CFI ACS front to back. A lot of it *should* be things you already know, although you obviously want to review them to make sure you can answer any questions about them at an instructor level. But you're going to need to teach at least one lesson as well, so you'll want to pay really close attention to that task because it will be totally new to you.
Alternative_Sale7459@reddit
I think where you’re coming from is the “where the hell do I start” part of CFI training. I did initial 2 years ago and II this January, almost all self study. I used most of u/txaggiemike advice from his previous copypasta and then bought backseat pilot lesson plans and began teaching them out loud. Anything I didn’t understand fully (be honest with yourself, don’t just glaze over it) I went to the FAA resources (or YouTube and then circled back to ground it in FAA sources) to figure out. I also modified the backseat pilot plans to my personal flow - the order things came naturally to me and examples that I came up with. Removed fluff etc.
For the FOIs specifically, I took the advice of others and baked them into my teaching of other lessons (make up stories or examples of a problem or unique pilot situation or how you had a hard time to learn X and that was because of primacy or whatever). HOPEFULLY you won’t have to rote teach the FOIs but it seems like there are some flight schools and DPEs that get off on memorizing stupid FOI acronyms.
M3blockchain@reddit
In addition to the great advice in this thread, practice teaching. Teach grounds and fly right seat with friend or family and talk them through exactly what you are doing and teach them.
I got into a slight rut after just reading all the books and watching the videos, starting to actually teach really helped me.
TxAggieMike@reddit
Another good resource to have is [VSL.aero ACE Guide](https://vslaviation.myshopify.com)
It has all of the FAA resources compiled into a single document. And the ACS’s are hyperlinked like crazy to supporting documents.
So worth the cost
ltcterry@reddit
FOI comes out of the Aviation Instructor Handbook. This book is about 100 pages long. And covers Area of Operations 1 - Fundamentals of Instruction - in the ACS. Just the first four pages if I remember right. It's important stuff: 1) it's new and not about airplanes, 2) it gets its own written test, and 3) is discussed on the oral.
Todd Shellnutt's YouTube channel has "Eight Weeks to CFI" as a play list. It's based on the recent PTS instead of the current ACS, but at worst things have moved a page or two. You'll get it sorted. Todd's videos are a great start.
I suggest you Get the ACS printed with nice covers and a spiral binding. Ditto for the Private and Commercial ACS documents. Get a spiral binding put on the AIH. Watch the videos. Take notes in the CFI ACS and AIH. Cross reference.
Get the "study by certificate" list for the FAR/AIM. Mark up the suggested topics for Instructor. Though this is not FOI at this point, but being an instructor.
TxAggieMike@reddit
My oral exam was all scenario based.
I was asked to teach the required items and some maneuvers. Periodically, FOI based questions were interwoven.
Flight was me flying and demonstrating while narrating. Then the DPE wanted to fly while I coached doing or improving a maneuver.
TxAggieMike@reddit
CFI Preparation (Reddit)
#Prepration for the CFI Practical Exam (short notes)
Here is the quick notes from the class I teach in the DFW area.
All of the above should get you pointed in the proper direction.
Share any questions you have and we can help.
rFlyingTower@reddit
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Hey everyone,
Starting to dig into my CFI initial and looking for some direction from people who've been through it. I've started going through the FOI material and it's definitely new and a bit confusing but that's expected since it's totally different from anything else I've studied. What resources or study materials did you find most helpful getting through it? Also curious what your oral was like and what areas the DPE really pushed on, and how the flight portion of the checkride went. Just want to get a good overall picture of everything that's covered and what I should be focused on. Any advice is appreciated, thanks.
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