What’s wrong with Jeeps?
Posted by meloncheery@reddit | askcarguys | View on Reddit | 38 comments
We have been looking for a mini SUV (either electric or hybrid) that feels nice, is roughly 2 years old/not many miles but isn’t more than £25k. A tough find tbh. We’ve recently seen the new Jeep avenger (full electric) and compass within our price bracket and they look lovely and the finish is close to some of the nicest we’ve seen. Why are they so cheap??
Personal_Chicken_598@reddit
Generally unreliable
Jmauld@reddit
If it’s not a wrangler, it’s not worth buying.
Shamelesspromote@reddit
Hey now, the Cherokee with the same 3.6 the Wrangler got it was decent but most got the other junk engines. The Grand Cherokee is also really well built too.
Only issue is the modern Jeeps just had a full electrical system overhaul and uh, they haven't gotten all the gremlins out of them as of yet but there is a good chance that in a year or two that they get that sorted as it seems like people on the new electrical systems getting the recall done has been a one and done thing but then again not fully sure until its completely stopped being talked about which is a lot hard to gauge
ashyjay@reddit
The Avenger is just a lifted and worse Peugeot 208.
Jumpy_Childhood7548@reddit
Low demand.
Ill-Running1986@reddit
In 'murca, the Stellantis dealer service network has a bad reputation. (Ordinarily, dealer service is useless, but they're a necessary evil for warranty work. My personal experience is of a terrible, drawn-out, half-assed fix.)
Better-Credit6701@reddit
I used to work for a super large used car company with over 150 lots and kept track of repairs. The most unreliable vehicle were Dodge and Jeeps.
Stelios619@reddit
My wife owns a Jeep. She loves it, and won’t let me sell it.
As the person who actually fixes it when it breaks…. Don’t buy a Jeep.
Additional-Self-660@reddit
Jeeps are the LEAST likely to reach 100,000 miles
ChronicHunger_1@reddit
I just hate the way most of them drive
realcanadianguy21@reddit
Just Expect Electrical Problems
Badkus757@reddit
Just empty every pocket
Badkus757@reddit
Stellantis has cut cost back in 2021 or 22 I believe while still keeping msrp the same. Quality took a hit on a product that was already below industry averages. Now they're cutting cost again and tightening the belt as the CEO put it.
A video came out a few years ago where employees were talking about how thousands of workers were laid off and they refused to stop the assembly line when a employee couldn't finish a task. Just sending the vehicle on its way to the customer.
Here's a video talking about the last round of cost cutting
Then you can look at last years JD Power ranking . Pay attention to all US Stellantis products. Jeep, Chrysler and Ram. Their European brands, another 10 manufacturers aren't doing well either.
_taza_@reddit
Asking car guys advice about SUVs is useless
meloncheery@reddit (OP)
How come?
Pretend_Editor_4447@reddit
Stellantis is what’s wrong.
zerofucxgiven@reddit
Because Jeeps have been garbage since August 5th 1987 when Chrysler bought AMC
zendick1@reddit
1991 when the last amc jeep rolled off
Suni13@reddit
Our 92XJ and 97ZJ seem to be ok.
GeeEmmInMN@reddit
2013 JK still ok. 🤷🏻♂️
Jmauld@reddit
Not true. The TJ was exceptional
IronyIntended2@reddit
Agreed my 2004 rubicon still running strong with 96k lol
ThePurch@reddit
The 4.0 was good but the rest was still junk.
wide_right100@reddit
Jeeps are cheaply made and face tons of issues. Lots of electrical issues which are expensive to track down and fix. Also just general quality issues
CarGullible5691@reddit
Better off buying a Toyota if you want a reliable car. 10 year warranty or 100,000 miles as long as it’s serviced by a main dealer every year. They don’t advertise this but it’s there. Nobody else does this.
MostlyBrine@reddit
I had a coworker who was a big fan of Jeeps, specifically for trails and overland trips. He admitted that if he could find something else to do the job, he would switch in a heartbeat. Before and after his outings he would spend time repairing his jeep. Several years later he was driving a lifted Toyota truck. Another coworker had a new Jeep Liberty. Once a month had to drive a 1200 miles round trip (on interstate) to check on a property in a different state. Most of the times after his trips, his Jeep would be at the dealership for repairs. I was his ride, as he rented an apartment somewhere on my way to work. When he changed jobs, he sold the Jeep and bought a Subaru.
Brave-Ad-7460@reddit
DO NOT BUY A JEEP
jeeps are complete garbage buy a Toyota or Honda don’t touch a jeep
paper_killa@reddit
I’ve had 4 Jeeps over the years and they have all been solid. The oldest had a 23yr old 4.0 and still ran great. The only one I own currently is a 2017 GC that I passed on my son. The V6 Penstar you will find in most new ones is probably only behind the Nissan v6. The turbo 4 that most automakers have pivoted to are unlikely to last as long.
Professor_Iron@reddit
Euro Jeeps are fine. The Avenger is just another take on the Peugeot 2008/DS3/Vauxhall Mokka and whatever else Stellantis built on the same platform. They are not capable of offroading - you can drive up to river banks, seashores and easier terrain, but won't be using it in a mine or forestry. The electric variants have proven to be sturdy enough so far.
Imho the Vauxhall variant is the best price/value, but each to their own. They design them different to cater for every taste.
Be mindful though that Stellantis warranty terms vary between brands - where I live Peugeot & Citroën warranty is now 8 years by default. Opel will soon adapt the same terms. But Fiat & brands of ther former FCA-conglomerate (including Jeep) still offer only a shorter coverage. Also - Fiat/Jeep dealerships are known to be worst in the industry. Former PSA dealers aren't the best either, but definitely more trustworthy and a million times better in getting occasional recalls & warranty claims fixed.
wrong_andy@reddit
Ill be in the minority here by saying there's nothing wrong with them. I've had 2x cherokees both only ever needed regular servicing and tires. Never let me down, wife wrote off my last one at 120k and id have run it till it died if she hadn't. Daughter has a compass, no issues, I know 2 guys with Avengers as company cars and again no issues for them either. And another pal has a wrangler that is his daily driver and he does some off reading in - you guessed it - no issues I'm sure some people have had problems but the only one was for me was the mains dealers they need to wear masks - robbers!!!
Ok_Equipment8374@reddit
being poorly made and unreliable, desparately tring to sell an image of 'murica and outdoors, while offering little more than lifted hatchbacks
ArbysLunch@reddit
Make sure you check for recalls before buying any Jeep product. In the US, that info is available from NHTSA.
R2-Scotia@reddit
Stellantis
newoldschool@reddit
jeep is the Landover of America and ironic since they are going to collaborate on the near future
ArbysLunch@reddit
Coming soon to a lawn ornament store near you...
_EnFlaMEd@reddit
They sit on the same tier as Chinese cars in Australia but are beginning to fall behind as brands like BYD gain loyalty.
robindawilliams@reddit
Jeep products are generally more cheaply made, less reliable, and outdated in terms of technology.
That isn't to say they are bad, because some of their products match the price, but in general car people don't recommend them if you want a good dependable vehicle because there are better options.
They are part of the Stellantis family, which is a group of failing/shrinking automotive brands that are all trying to stay afloat together but their ability to turn a profit and invest into majorn R&D has been mixed at best. Each brand has only a few models for sale, so they tried to lump themselves all together to be more competitive to the major brands. You may pay less today, but that doesn't mean it will cost less over the lifetime of the vehicle.
The avenger is an example of a perfectly decent vehicle, but it lacks the performance and functions of a purely dedicated EV platform while also lacking the 4x4 functionality of a "jeep" as most are FWD. I've heard they've got a fair number of electrical and software gremlins because the system just isn't as bulletproof/refined as something put out by a more reliable brand.
Practical_Taro5656@reddit
The correct question is "what's not wrong with Jeeps?"
The answer is nothing.