I don’t think Reddit is the right place for Balkan people anymore?
Posted by Extra_Loquat_5599@reddit | AskBalkans | View on Reddit | 56 comments
Back in old Reddit when subs like 2balkan4you were still around, you could actually see how a lot of us really are. The insults, the degeneracy, the dark humor, saying the most unhinged shit imaginable and nobody actually taking it personally because everyone knew it was jokes.
Now Reddit feels completely different. Everyone is overly sensitive. Half the time I read Balkan discussions here and think, bro, have any of you actually spent time around average Balkan people?
And before people get mad I’m not even trying to be offensive. But a lot of people on Balkan Reddit seem either very westernized, living abroad, or just very online compared to actual everyday people here.
Like what do you mean “you can’t say that” My baba probably taught us enough insults for every possible life situation before we even hit puberty.
Or the constant takes like “Balkan men are ugly, everyone has the same haircut, no style.” Brother… a lot of women HERE literally like it that way. The moment I start styling my hair differently or dressing too polished I’m getting roasted by both men and women.
I’m not saying everything in Balkan culture is good or that people can’t be toxic. But Reddit Balkans feels completely disconnected from the actual Balkans.
toobalkanforyou@reddit
Ever since they closed down 2balkan4you..rip..I keep it alive in my username
No-Can2216@reddit
Because most of the people here aren't from the Balkans, they're from the US/Australia/Canada
User20242024@reddit
Tehnically, I am from Central Europe.
IgnoreMyPresence_@reddit
Found the Romanian
Novel_Plum@reddit
Nah, we are balkan all the way
Empty-Pace-4228@reddit
I think Western Romania is Central Europe.
User20242024@reddit
No. I am from Vojvodina.
alasw0eisme@reddit
I agree about the hair thing. Fuck hairstyles. I just buzz it off. Saves money. But I don't agree about allowing everything. Insults is one thing. But I can't abide misogyny, homophobia and other backward beliefs.
vaslui-berceni@reddit
Bro we used to be the same country 200 years ago, why the fuck would we hate each other like degenrates instead of appreciating everybody? Plus being proud of being from your country is stupid since you didnt choose your own country.
Why should we hate each other instead of cooperating and getting to learn empathy and help each other?
Unironically I love Hungary and I respect both hungarians from romania and hungary and I do not give a damn about autonomy or these kind of nationalistic problems romanians have, they have like 3 counties where they are 90%+ so who cares anyway
Merlin_Maverick@reddit
Because the subb is formed at least 60% people that are not even close to the balkans.USA,Central Europe,Scandinavia,Russia and so on.
You can’t have claims of normal balkan ideology from those people.
Oh yes,and the ragebait posts.Those are the coup de grâce of the subb..
jinawee@reddit
Most of Reddit is disconnected from the actual world. How many +50 year olds or women do you think are in the sub?
RedScarySpectre@reddit
Reddit is modeled after american pussies. Even on YouTube in certain videos they blur parts. Good lord if I start seeeing a documentary about a genocide then I know it ain't gonna be nice don't I? Bunch of sissies
If they stopped worrying about irrelevant stuff maybe they wouldn't have the shit they have rulling the country.
Novio024@reddit
A couple of days ago I had a post deleted and received a warning for breaking the "Civility" rule in a topic about Pavelić after I responded to someone who told about his one-legged wife beating grandfather. The only thing I wrote was "having a mental image of his grandfather using his severed leg to beat his wife with."
I mean it's such a ridiculous premise I don't know how anyone could take offence or see this as an endorsement of domestic violence
alkorisno@reddit
Welcome to reddit
Obvious-Desk4573@reddit
To be honest I don't think Reddit was ever the right place.
2balkan4you had its days numbered from the very beginning because this site's demographics have always been a majority of young, chronically online, left-wing, anti-religious Westerners.
By contrast, the Balkan people outside the internet use the internet less, and are right-wing, and typically religious, even if they don't practice their religion much. And obviously we are not Westerners with Western mindsets. Even Balkan communists differ significantly in their beliefs compared to Western or Westernised Communists.
This is why, as you think you well know, why visiting r/serbia would make you think Serbs are in complete support of the students, when the reality in the home country is split between generations.
domets@reddit
wtf?
Frank_cat@reddit
What?
Obviously you 've never seen captain obvious being obvious before.
Obvious-Desk4573@reddit
Balkan people who practically "live" inside the internet (i.e. chronically online) are contrasted by Balkan people who "live" outside the internet (i.e. people who use the internet less.)
Obvious-Desk4573@reddit
Seems like reddit didn't like your Balkan reply ; ). I wouldn't go so far to insult them but yes, it's unfortunate that the students are unable to see that history will just repeat itself whether the students come into power or not.
Extra_Loquat_5599@reddit (OP)
Wait, isn't it showing? reddit didn't notify me
Obvious-Desk4573@reddit
Yes, it got removed.
Extra_Loquat_5599@reddit (OP)
Wtf ...
MisterWithTwister@reddit
Beacuse the reddit has become an over modded safe space where you cant even make a joke without being banned. I would word it differently but i would be banned.
Frank_cat@reddit
LOL
I got banned from a r/worldnews without ever posting there.
Complete mystery to me. 🙄
No, I didn't and I won't ask the mods about it, since that ban shows they are a complete joke.
🤣
Glittery_Marshmallow@reddit
Have you considered it is just you? I my friend group is not like yours. You would not be bullied for having a non-conforming hairstyle. Keep in mind that we are pretty basic, not some alternative ultra modern group, either. And given you are Serbian, I can picture your circle of people just based of of this alone.
No, there is no need to be horribly offensive and perpetuate the most horrible of stereotypes. I very much like having fun with Balkan people without using being Balkan as an excuse for every type of -ism under the sun. Both offline and online.
retzulian@reddit
Some albanian guy made a post about albania joining ue. I congratulated and made a joke about albanians and organs. He got mad as fk and called me salty. 🙃
n1ente@reddit
90% of this sub are diaspora who have no idea about their country or the Balkans.
PasicT@reddit
Not everyone wants to stick to 13 year old style nationalist trolling online and enjoys that.
JRJenss@reddit
Dude, if that's what you think, you missed the whole point of 2balkan4you. That sub was ironic and literally making fun of the Balkans.
I would argue the current Balkan reddit is ironically truer to real life, showing what frickin snowflakes we all are, although the people who never seem to get the joke tend to be from diaspora - usually born and raised elsewhere.
AccordingProblem1661@reddit
Perhaps our new generation of Balkan people are finally choosing to be educated, civilised and respectful.
ResearchDelicious759@reddit
Right now they more nationalistic than older generation
AccordingProblem1661@reddit
It’s a shame.
Extra_Loquat_5599@reddit (OP)
Have you met the young people? Bro they are as wild as we were ... and im in my 20s
This site is just deleting everything that doesnt fit the narrative.
AccordingProblem1661@reddit
Perhaps the young people on this subreddit are mostly from the diasporas, who have lived beyond their little patriotic ethnonationalist community and seen that we have more common than we think.
You’re right though. I have many family members my age who have stayed in N. Macedonia that are more intolerant than people our parents’ age.
casual_philosopher02@reddit
I have been ratioed for joking more than once..... I remember a certain greek in here than lived all their life abroad and on a greek island come to seriously debate turko-greek shit. These people have slowly become a majority of balkan subs
latespresso@reddit
Someone bring us back to being frenemies and siblings alike fighting rather than actual hate and sensitivity!
casual_philosopher02@reddit
I got tired of these posts, last time I asked what is the point of these topics other than to pit us agains each other
latespresso@reddit
There’re many people who’s doing it for karma farming or they do have their own agenda to push into people. Sadly many people are falling for it.
Fourteen14XIV@reddit
LMFAO, imagine unironically saying you need a safe space cause other people are being too sensitive.
> Everyone is overly sensitive. Half the time I read Balkan discussions here and think, bro, have any of you actually spent time around average Balkan people?
Have you? Try saying something offensive to them or about the group of people they support and see how not sensitive they are. Dont tell me you've never seen what happens someone insults your grandpas favorite politician? If you are making fun of some other group its "just good fun and jokes, no need to get offended", but God forbid you make jokes that make their group the punchline or even just something like "dress like those people". For some reason you seem to only see people who say "that's offensive" as sensitive, not the people who will scream third grade insults at you.
Yes its true that reddit is more left leaning than the Balkans proper and that they will take offense to stuff Balkan people irl will not, but that doesn't mean Balkan people themselves are any less "overly sensitive", you are just used to it, so it doesn't stick out to you. Hell, for a less ambiguous example, see how people here react to the shit people write on r/europe. They aren't wrong for being offended by it, but they are literally reacting the same way they mock others for.
And no I dont believe shutting down places like /balkan_people_internet was a good thing, but what you've seen there isnt "what us non pussy Balkan people are actually like", its was a small subsect of people who were aware of that fucked up part of out mentality and made fun of it by being ironically over the top nationalistic. I cant stress enough how much Balkan people in real life aren't like that. Say some of the most common jokes there to an average Balkan person irl and the best outcome will be an awkward stare. Over-sterilization of reddit is a thing and its bad, but we Balkaners aren't "based and red pilled chads who dont get offended like those woke lefties", we constantly get our panties in a twist.
Also there is that thing where hate groups will take over online comuntites by posting "edgy jokes", which they and most other people unfamiliar with how they work will pass of as "obviously satire, since who would voice such an extreme opinion publicly". This is not some overly paranoid ramblings of an over sensitive SJW, this is actual advice people in these hate groups get given to take over comunities and spread their agenda. Hell, even subs like r/balkan_people_internet and r/2balkan4you had the problem of unironic nationalists pooping up occasionally.
You also seem to be under some sort of impression that just because our older people do something that its OK or should be continued. Like no, there are so many brain dead takes Ive heard from my family that for everyone's sake should not be perpetuated.
> The moment I start styling my hair differently or dressing too polished I’m getting roasted by both men and women.
That is the part being criticized. The fact that our society allows for such a small spectrum of acceptably expression.
Charming-Bit-9739@reddit
Your post is soooo offensive
Extra_Loquat_5599@reddit (OP)
Lol, this is like my fifth version of this post, because the others didn't get approved.
BaboTT2@reddit
It stopped being fun. Now its like to clean and I dont like it. Its not who we are.
ComfortableCow2222@reddit
Welcome to reddit
Township_Roller@reddit
"I don't like people's opinions when they differ from mine, leave reddit, please, I am the only real Balkan"
Lucifer_893@reddit
Well d’uh, it’s Reddit.
B3g4dd1ct22@reddit
It feels like the site turned into a sterile corporate HR meeting overnight. You can smell the admins hovering over every thread waiting to ban someone for not being polite enough about centuries of ethnic tension.
rintzscar@reddit
Or you could grow the fuck up?
Extra_Loquat_5599@reddit (OP)
Bro just stfu, have you met our old people?
rintzscar@reddit
Yes. They need to grow up too.
Resigned1431@reddit
Okay this is a strong argument.
dedreanu2@reddit
Everything stems from the fact that most vocal redditors are weak minded and willed people. Thats why they resort to woke far left speech. Tbh people who actually live out their lives dont really spend much time on reddit.
Extra_Loquat_5599@reddit (OP)
This is the truth, so obviously you are getting downvoted ...
SunnyTheMasterSwitch@reddit
I mean reddit is for the most part woke and unless you keep your mouth shut can easily get banned in general.
tejanaqkilica@reddit
That's why reddit is woke though, because everyone who isn't, gets the ban hammer.
Just yesterday I got permanently banned from a sub reddit, because I commented "lol". That was considered racists by the mods.
SunnyTheMasterSwitch@reddit
Yep, echo chanbers if you dont follow thr norm you get punished, no logic no pleas.
v_rex74@reddit
I noticed it too. I blame couple of woke idiots. Prolly Reddit bots