1979, low-support needing AuADHD and undiagnosed until my 30s cos girls didn’t have ADD/ADHD in the 80’s & 90’s, and ASD wasn’t even a thing, only high support-needing, severely mentally disabled (boys) had Autism. I was constantly told I was just a weird space cadet who let people bully them. “you just want to be a doormat.” They’d tell me nothing was wrong with me or my life, but I was in and out of psychotherapy from the age of 9 until 18 because I somehow also needed fixing.
Yeah same here. Still got alienated by teachers and peers for being 'weird'. Hey, I will say that at least it gave me 'thick skin'! As a functioning adult I can take criticism pretty well. 😎
The crazy thing is Teachers can absolutely get fired nowadays for humiliating a student. A lot of things Teachers did in early days are currently not acceptable now.
I remember having this one social studies teacher in 8th grade who has this big-ass ruler or something called Sammy the stick. Whenever someone would fall asleep, he'd whack their desk with it really hard. He was actually a pretty good teacher. Very entertaining.
Had a close friend with ADHD. He started taking Ritalin around '94 or '95. It calmed and leveled him out, but when he gave it to me or another friend who didn't have ADHD, it made us hyper.
It is awful, at least from my experiences. It was still around about 8 years ago. My kid has ADD and he was prescribed a generic version of Ritalin (the actual medication name is methylphenidate). He was on it for about 6 months and it made him prone to anger outbursts, which he never did before. It did improve his concentration and such a bit, but with the negative side effects, we decided to take him off it and just found coping strategies and ways to manage it without medications. Those un-medicated strategies were far more effective than when he was on meds for ADD. Now he's a college student doing well in his studies.
There’s other non-Ritalin meds out now. I don’t know the names, but parents we’ve spoken to are liking the results. We are seriously considering it with our daughter.
Oh, look. The hyper kids getting all the treatment attention while my non-hyperactive ass sat there lost for 8 years.
I made the math team and my math teacher just about shit himself. Said there was no possibility I could be both failing his class and a math genius. I'm now a data scientist for a Forbes list computing firm.
Yeah you just have to try to catch yourself and go for a walk to stew, and if you slip with the cursing or whatever, you apologize and reinforce what you did isn't right.
At the end of the day we're still emotional animals so you just have to prepare and recognize.
Second grade for me. Tenured lady on her last year before retirement. Would smoke just outside the side door, every day was a fresh stack of 25 dittos for us to spend the day working on while she read magazines at the front of the class.
Between her and the Vietnam vet gym teacher, the 80’s were interesting for all of us who dealt with that generations educators.
Im well aware. I meant that when boomers were in school they actually got hit by teachers and the teachers didn't get repercussions. By the time millennial were in school the teachers couldn't hit us but they still bullied us
We had a Vietnam vet shop teacher. He had PTSD and had a few episodes over his many years of teaching. One in particular when I was in school, he thought "charlie" was attacking and started shouting for all the students to get down and take cover.
My chemistry teacher looked like a cave troll and talked a lot about she used to drill holes in the paddle she carried around to remove the wind resistance.
Neither my son or I have ever been able to breathe through our noses. Having my mouth taped shut is an irrational fear of mine because I wouldn't be able to get enough air to stay conscious and that trick would possibly kill my son or me. But hey thanks for awakening my phobia at 7 am!
Yeah, pretty much that combined with being pumped full of so many stimulants that by the time you reached adulthood your heart was 20 years older than you were.
kidney problems as well, also you are taking kids who would otherwise never touch a drug harder than booze or weed, and you give them a steady supply of clean speed that their friends definitely want
people trading their adderall to other kids to get harder drugs is so common
the insurance companies and the psychiatrists are subsidizing the teenage drug market with hundreds of millions of dollars in product per year
people who get pissed and downvote are all on the drugs themselves and are mad people are talking about their little secret
I guess they know better than the American College of Cardiology, the NIH, or the AHA, all of whom say there's an increased risk of cardiovascular damage or arrhythmias from methylphenidate (ritilan) and the long term use of stimulants increases the risk for hypertension and arterial disease.
Okay but why aren’t parents doing that though? Why do I have to listen to kids screaming their heads off with big feelings because “we don’t like the word ‘no’,” like when did permissive parenting become the norm? We need something in between hitting and kowtowing to the kid. Gentle parenting is not it, you have the inmates running the asylum.
Or….if you were a girl, you just went undiagnosed, because girls “didn’t get ADHD” back then. My pediatrician told my parents that they shouldn’t give me sugar, because that’s what made me hyperactive.
Nope, just ended up with ADHD and an eating disorder.
it feels like everyone has ADD. I don't really know anybody that likes studying and learning more than other things. and if you do they say you're autistic.
is there any child who loves to go to school and sit quietly at a desk and learn math? I'm pretty sure virtually EVERY child would rather be outside playing. or doing video games or goofing around and having fun. being quiet and studying is not a super natural thing. so is it really a disorder when you don't naturally want to do that?
I know a ton of people with crippling drug addictions that started with adderall from a doctor. Many are on full blown meth now and are convinced it's medicine citing the molecules in their adderall and their analogs like a pharmacy tech. These people grew up in normal homes with loving families with no history of drug abuse, but profit is powerful enough to overprescribe this poison to children.
Amphetamine stimulants are poison, especially on growing bodies. Generation Rx.
The first gen of kids who got these pills were born in the late 70s and early 80s and the side effects are brutal and last forever. I know a ton of guys in my cohort with very small feet and very small hands b/c they were on a massive dose of amphetamines all through puberty. A lot of these people are going to have organ problems late in life 100% caused by their parents giving them the equivalent of street drugs.
Don't even get me started on how people have to basically dope in college to compete. You have to take these pills in order to compete with the kids who are taking it. If your placement in a good law school determines the money you make your entire career, of course you take speed to get a better grade. And it works for basically everyone.
I'm gonna wear the downvotes like a badge of honor 😄
My father acted that way when teaching me multiplication. Pretty traumatizing. Ended up getting a bachelors in math, not to please him but to prove I was better than him. If the ends justify the means I guess this is okay, but it was not pleasant.
My mom hit me multiple times while I was driving when I was learning. I don't have depth perception so it took a lot of practice to learn how to stop at stop signs and if I came up on one too fast I'd get backhanded.
My Middle School form teacher hated me so much he humiliated me every lesson. And when my mother went in to complain he spoke so horribly about me she left crying. Basically said I should have been stuffed out at birth.
Wasn't the early 90s a joyous time?
High School Form tutor didn't like being told she was wrong. And was vile to me when I aced my SAT's. I must have cheated. She threatened to stop me taking my GCSE's because I refused to do her PE lessons. Thankfully my deputy head found it funny.
Weren't the late 90's a joyous time?
I hated being young. Teachers, dance teacher, parent (one of them) all at me. All the time. Not a minute of the day went past without being criticised.
Between the scent of purple ditto ink and the looming threat of a Vietnam vet blowing a whistle in my face, I’m shocked we didn't all develop telekinetic powers just to survive elementary school.
Pandoras_Fate@reddit
AuDHD in the 90s. Undiagnosed because you have boomer parents who thought you'd be an embarrassment.
Much easier to let your kid be humiliated and bullied.
FearMeIAmRoot@reddit
My kids doesn't need medication. They just need to start trying and apply themselves.
TheGillos@reddit
How do you know your kids "doesn't need" medication?
plastiquearse@reddit
I think they’re just sharing the ethos of \~80’s parenting regarding neurodivergent behaviour.
When I was diagnosed at 27 my dad said something like, “You don’t have adhd. That’s ridiculous.”
twelveoverten@reddit
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civilSurvivorMum@reddit
1979, low-support needing AuADHD and undiagnosed until my 30s cos girls didn’t have ADD/ADHD in the 80’s & 90’s, and ASD wasn’t even a thing, only high support-needing, severely mentally disabled (boys) had Autism. I was constantly told I was just a weird space cadet who let people bully them. “you just want to be a doormat.” They’d tell me nothing was wrong with me or my life, but I was in and out of psychotherapy from the age of 9 until 18 because I somehow also needed fixing.
hahahahahahahaFUCK@reddit
Grew up with ADD. Was never physically punished, just humiliated by my teachers over and over again.
HelicopterExact4621@reddit
I got lots of detentions for never shutting up. Thank god I was high functioning.
Mister_Mojo78@reddit
Yeah same here. Still got alienated by teachers and peers for being 'weird'. Hey, I will say that at least it gave me 'thick skin'! As a functioning adult I can take criticism pretty well. 😎
PackageNorth8984@reddit
People tried to tell me mom, but I got straight As, and she said, if he’s doing well, I’m not going to give him pills. I don’t know who was right.
NewToHTX@reddit
The crazy thing is Teachers can absolutely get fired nowadays for humiliating a student. A lot of things Teachers did in early days are currently not acceptable now.
TrixieLaBouche@reddit
Same here. School teachers, dance teachers. Just humiliation every single class.
DinnerSilver@reddit
That's horrible!! Sorry to hear from one who also has ADHD😔
ShotWin8124@reddit
I remember having this one social studies teacher in 8th grade who has this big-ass ruler or something called Sammy the stick. Whenever someone would fall asleep, he'd whack their desk with it really hard. He was actually a pretty good teacher. Very entertaining.
NewKojak@reddit
I mean…
This is basically Christian fundamentalist parenting.
Trobman7980@reddit
Had a close friend with ADHD. He started taking Ritalin around '94 or '95. It calmed and leveled him out, but when he gave it to me or another friend who didn't have ADHD, it made us hyper.
Zeke688@reddit
Ritalin was awful, I don’t think they don’t use it anymore
Trobman7980@reddit
It is awful, at least from my experiences. It was still around about 8 years ago. My kid has ADD and he was prescribed a generic version of Ritalin (the actual medication name is methylphenidate). He was on it for about 6 months and it made him prone to anger outbursts, which he never did before. It did improve his concentration and such a bit, but with the negative side effects, we decided to take him off it and just found coping strategies and ways to manage it without medications. Those un-medicated strategies were far more effective than when he was on meds for ADD. Now he's a college student doing well in his studies.
Zeke688@reddit
There’s other non-Ritalin meds out now. I don’t know the names, but parents we’ve spoken to are liking the results. We are seriously considering it with our daughter.
river_tree_nut@reddit
Displays kid-level energy
"Did you remember to take your meds today?"
chesterforbes@reddit
Ah abuse. Making sure generations of kids grew up fucked up
Houdinii1984@reddit
Oh, look. The hyper kids getting all the treatment attention while my non-hyperactive ass sat there lost for 8 years.
I made the math team and my math teacher just about shit himself. Said there was no possibility I could be both failing his class and a math genius. I'm now a data scientist for a Forbes list computing firm.
Drahkir9@reddit
Anecdotally, I’ve yet to meet a single person that says “I was beat/spanked/hit as a child and I turned out fine!”
Brother, you did NOT turn out fine 😅
kthejoker@reddit
It's sad knowing a lot of my anger management issues were essentially beat into me.
And were beat into my dad.
Breaking the cycle is hard.
Zeke688@reddit
My dad broke the physical cycle, but still cussed & yelled too much. I have tried so hard not to yell at my kids, but damn, it’s hard sometimes.
kthejoker@reddit
Yeah you just have to try to catch yourself and go for a walk to stew, and if you slip with the cursing or whatever, you apologize and reinforce what you did isn't right.
At the end of the day we're still emotional animals so you just have to prepare and recognize.
2011ACK@reddit
My third grade teacher physically taped my ADD mouth shut one day. She was a real gem of an educator.
Level_Improvement532@reddit
Second grade for me. Tenured lady on her last year before retirement. Would smoke just outside the side door, every day was a fresh stack of 25 dittos for us to spend the day working on while she read magazines at the front of the class.
Between her and the Vietnam vet gym teacher, the 80’s were interesting for all of us who dealt with that generations educators.
Mayatar@reddit
Zoomers think boomers are the worst but they never saw them in their full power!
alieninhumanskin10@reddit
Uh those kids were the boomers.
Mayatar@reddit
Nope, those kids are millenials given that this episode aired in 2000.
alieninhumanskin10@reddit
Im well aware. I meant that when boomers were in school they actually got hit by teachers and the teachers didn't get repercussions. By the time millennial were in school the teachers couldn't hit us but they still bullied us
Mayatar@reddit
Our parents did it for them.
Zeke688@reddit
Most of the people here are referring to when they were kids.
Yes, of course previous generations were also treated terribly, but this is the Xennial sub, and some had terrible experiences in the 80s as well.
ghoulthebraineater@reddit
A teacher that would be retiring in 87-88 wouldn't be a boomer. The oldest boomers would have been only 42-43 at that point.
Mayatar@reddit
I meant that Vietnam vets were largely boomers. Those retiring were silent gen which were not much different to boomers really.
Trobman7980@reddit
We had a Vietnam vet shop teacher. He had PTSD and had a few episodes over his many years of teaching. One in particular when I was in school, he thought "charlie" was attacking and started shouting for all the students to get down and take cover.
Malkovtheclown@reddit
My chemistry teacher looked like a cave troll and talked a lot about she used to drill holes in the paddle she carried around to remove the wind resistance.
clutzycook@reddit
My first grade teacher did that to a kid, and tied another to their desk with a jump rope.
EnvironmentalGift257@reddit
Neither my son or I have ever been able to breathe through our noses. Having my mouth taped shut is an irrational fear of mine because I wouldn't be able to get enough air to stay conscious and that trick would possibly kill my son or me. But hey thanks for awakening my phobia at 7 am!
Ti47_867@reddit
fanofoddthings@reddit
You realize the amount of trauma dumping you're about to unleash?
grandlotus2@reddit
Yea and we turned out totally fine.
CalliopePenelope@reddit
LOL Doctors in the 80s/90s didn’t know girls could have ADHD. And if we ever got too energetic, we were told to “calm down and act like a lady.”
Seldarin@reddit
Yeah, pretty much that combined with being pumped full of so many stimulants that by the time you reached adulthood your heart was 20 years older than you were.
dolex-mcp@reddit
kidney problems as well, also you are taking kids who would otherwise never touch a drug harder than booze or weed, and you give them a steady supply of clean speed that their friends definitely want
people trading their adderall to other kids to get harder drugs is so common
the insurance companies and the psychiatrists are subsidizing the teenage drug market with hundreds of millions of dollars in product per year
people who get pissed and downvote are all on the drugs themselves and are mad people are talking about their little secret
Seldarin@reddit
Yeah, it's pretty funny.
I guess they know better than the American College of Cardiology, the NIH, or the AHA, all of whom say there's an increased risk of cardiovascular damage or arrhythmias from methylphenidate (ritilan) and the long term use of stimulants increases the risk for hypertension and arterial disease.
dolex-mcp@reddit
it's also a no-brainer situation, you can't give children stimulants literally every single day and expect them to grow up normally
lazy fucking parents who love taking pills themselves went cheered when their kids could just eat pills too
nightmare scenario for these kids
nopester24@reddit
Should still be
Drunken_Carbuncle@reddit
Let’s start with you.
NorskKiwi@reddit
Don't conflate discipline with violence. You can be strict, understanding, and teach without hitting.
Pale_Row1166@reddit
Okay but why aren’t parents doing that though? Why do I have to listen to kids screaming their heads off with big feelings because “we don’t like the word ‘no’,” like when did permissive parenting become the norm? We need something in between hitting and kowtowing to the kid. Gentle parenting is not it, you have the inmates running the asylum.
ey_you_with_the_face@reddit
Oh no, my kids behavior is bothering that stranger! Better beat my child!
Get tf over yourself.
Pale_Row1166@reddit
Yup these are the types of parents that make life worse for everyone around them. Odd that you seem proud to be in that club.
ey_you_with_the_face@reddit
Odd that you seem to think assaulting children is something you should be proud of you sick fuck.
crackedtooth163@reddit
Wait until you see an "accident" one day. I guarantee you will change your tune.
And that's before you see the parents who enjoy letting off steam this way.
Defiant_Cookie_4963@reddit
Har har child abuse is funny 🙄
PackageNorth8984@reddit
Intelligent-Camera90@reddit
Or….if you were a girl, you just went undiagnosed, because girls “didn’t get ADHD” back then. My pediatrician told my parents that they shouldn’t give me sugar, because that’s what made me hyperactive.
Nope, just ended up with ADHD and an eating disorder.
Shigglyboo@reddit
it feels like everyone has ADD. I don't really know anybody that likes studying and learning more than other things. and if you do they say you're autistic.
is there any child who loves to go to school and sit quietly at a desk and learn math? I'm pretty sure virtually EVERY child would rather be outside playing. or doing video games or goofing around and having fun. being quiet and studying is not a super natural thing. so is it really a disorder when you don't naturally want to do that?
dolex-mcp@reddit
sssshhhh, you are going to fuck with my prescription speed!
Nizno78@reddit
Confirmed, this is what my teachers did in the 80's and 90's.
dolex-mcp@reddit
I know a ton of people with crippling drug addictions that started with adderall from a doctor. Many are on full blown meth now and are convinced it's medicine citing the molecules in their adderall and their analogs like a pharmacy tech. These people grew up in normal homes with loving families with no history of drug abuse, but profit is powerful enough to overprescribe this poison to children.
Amphetamine stimulants are poison, especially on growing bodies. Generation Rx.
The first gen of kids who got these pills were born in the late 70s and early 80s and the side effects are brutal and last forever. I know a ton of guys in my cohort with very small feet and very small hands b/c they were on a massive dose of amphetamines all through puberty. A lot of these people are going to have organ problems late in life 100% caused by their parents giving them the equivalent of street drugs.
Don't even get me started on how people have to basically dope in college to compete. You have to take these pills in order to compete with the kids who are taking it. If your placement in a good law school determines the money you make your entire career, of course you take speed to get a better grade. And it works for basically everyone.
I'm gonna wear the downvotes like a badge of honor 😄
seequelbeepwell@reddit
My father acted that way when teaching me multiplication. Pretty traumatizing. Ended up getting a bachelors in math, not to please him but to prove I was better than him. If the ends justify the means I guess this is okay, but it was not pleasant.
EnvironmentalGift257@reddit
My mom hit me multiple times while I was driving when I was learning. I don't have depth perception so it took a lot of practice to learn how to stop at stop signs and if I came up on one too fast I'd get backhanded.
Lily_Thief@reddit
sigh reminds me of what little I've been able to pry out of how my mother's autism was treated
TrixieLaBouche@reddit
My Middle School form teacher hated me so much he humiliated me every lesson. And when my mother went in to complain he spoke so horribly about me she left crying. Basically said I should have been stuffed out at birth.
Wasn't the early 90s a joyous time?
High School Form tutor didn't like being told she was wrong. And was vile to me when I aced my SAT's. I must have cheated. She threatened to stop me taking my GCSE's because I refused to do her PE lessons. Thankfully my deputy head found it funny.
Weren't the late 90's a joyous time?
I hated being young. Teachers, dance teacher, parent (one of them) all at me. All the time. Not a minute of the day went past without being criticised.
legsjohnson@reddit
and that's why I've been on antidepressanta for 30 years!
TrustAffectionate966@reddit
This was effective on 99.9% of those maladjusted CHUDs.
Jets237@reddit
Yep
AngelMuffin0923@reddit
lmao too accurate honestly. my brother was diagnosed back then and it was basically just sit still or else 😭 its wild how much things have changed!
elonmusktheturd22@reddit
Thats my parents solution to everything up until i was 26 and i stopped talking to them
slocs1@reddit
BS in the 90ies teachers werent allowed to hit you anymore, but in the 50/60/70ies this was the way
DegTrader@reddit
Between the scent of purple ditto ink and the looming threat of a Vietnam vet blowing a whistle in my face, I’m shocked we didn't all develop telekinetic powers just to survive elementary school.
AgPatriotAg@reddit
Hahaha. Just hahahaahahah. So true.
jackfaire@reddit
More and more I realize how damn lucky I was. I was diagnosed with ADHD and most of my teachers were pretty understanding.
Farm-Alternative@reddit
accurate
Relevant-Bit-7394@reddit
You're smart just lazy.
Bella_LaGhostly@reddit
And the 80s! Can confirm. 🙃