What happens when a great lead leaves?
Posted by Fragrant-Brilliant52@reddit | ExperiencedDevs | View on Reddit | 78 comments
I’ve never been in a situation where my lead left before I did, it’s always been me leaving first.
The lead I currently work with is exceptional. He knows our entire tech stack inside and out, understands the business logic, and has the charisma and communication skills needed to push back on management when necessary. My team is made up of senior and mid-level engineers, and some of them are older and have more years of experience than he does. Even so, none of us would have the same impact or breadth of expertise when it comes to driving the product forward.
Lately, management has been leaning on him heavily, and it feels like he’s getting burned out. From what I can tell, he’s also actively exploring new opportunities.
That makes me a little concerned about the direction the team might take if he leaves. Has anyone been through something similar? What happened when a great lead left your team? Did the team adapt, or did things noticeably change?
BarberMajor6778@reddit
Sometimes it means the end of a good team.
Wonderful_Slice_7556@reddit
You may eventually become unhappy. If you can handle months without income, start quietly exploring your options. Do not tell anyone or hint at it. Hopefully it won't be necessary to move on but future events could play out against your favor... like them hiring in someone who is not nice or not technically good... someone on your team steps up and leans on you all too much... chaos overall and the reasons the lead left become more apparent about health of the business and leadership that will prevent you from learning/advancing. If you need the money just endure it all and get a hobby and enjoy your life. This is job security for you.
BurnoutArch@reddit
When our lead left, the team didn't fall apart, but a lot of invisible knowledge walked out with him. Things that were never documented, decisions that lived only in his head.
What changed most: suddenly, everyone had to figure out their own boundaries with management. That shift was harder than the technical gaps.
If you see signs he's exploring: start documenting everything you can now. In the future, you will be grateful.
suq-madiq_@reddit
A star is born
PhaseStreet9860@reddit
I have seen many senior lead leaving , i had doubt on intially on team members how will they manage , but they have done equally good.
In IT no one is irreplaceable, and if current team is not doing good they will bring someone new
AvailableName1814@reddit
It's scary, but generally never as bad as you expect. Work continues.
doyouevencompile@reddit
Honestly it can be a great thing for other engineers. I once lost two of my best engineers at once. None of the others were ready to lead on their own.
However, it creates a vacuum and it will be filled. Everyone became more adept in the areas they are already familiar with and it accelerated their growth significantly.
netwhoo@reddit
Nah, it’s worse if you work on a tier 0 service
KingGarfu@reddit
From my experience in a previous company, when my lead left everything continued as usual for a time. But over time the team started slowly cracking apart when we no longer had anyone that would give strong enough push back to management or had knowledge of our stack through and through.
Eventually most of the team ended up leaving in the year to come (myself included) citing burnout, dissatisfaction at work, etc.
haskell_rules@reddit
You become the lead
Eightstream@reddit
then you change all the architecture
SrDevMX@reddit
seems that he is no willing to take on that, he should have mentioned
in my experience a vacuum is created, until somebody steps up to the plate or designated, but has to earn the trust and respect,
or someone external is brought in
Affectionate_Day8483@reddit
What happens when multiple people step up?
goatanuss@reddit
Sometimes the same thing as if no one steps up: the persons’ responsibilities are spread across many people and everyone’s job gets 20 percent harder
melokoton@reddit
Depending on the ambition, it might trigger people to move on to another team or to another company as stone were probably waiting for them vacuum to advance their career internally.
But with this market, at least where I work people do everything they can to get into these positions as a way to protect themselves from layoff, sadly this also evolved on a shit show as people realize they don't like it or are not good at it, destroying teams or divisions.
Affectionate_Day8483@reddit
That's funny, that's exactly what happened at my last job.
NUTTA_BUSTAH@reddit
Best politician becomes the lead and the rest change jobs, or at least teams.
lmpdev@reddit
Depends on how the management handles it. But in my experience, one of them ends up leaving.
Monowakari@reddit
Dance fight
GenerouslyInsecure@reddit
Then you end up with competing visions and someone eventually wins out, usually whoever has the most political capital with management.
nachohk@reddit
I had a situation kind of like this. This is what I expected to happen. I'd take on the responsibilities of the lead who left. The business folks had other ideas. They brought in someone from outside and made him the lead. He was totally unequipped for the role and resisted my attempts to onboard him, and generally seemed to relish making my life difficult. So I left too. It doesn't seem like they're getting much done in terms of new features these days.
donatj@reddit
This is literally what happened to me, and I was terrible at it
gonzofish@reddit
Or a power vacuum
netwhoo@reddit
This is horrible when it happens and teams often collapse
Gunny2862@reddit
It's so simple, it might just work!
devils_avocado@reddit
The team steps up, or you start polishing your resume.
techgang24@reddit
Yes—many teams go through this, and the outcome usually depends less on how good the lead was and more on how much of the team’s knowledge, decision-making, and relationships were concentrated in that one person.
From your description, your lead sounds like he’s filling several roles simultaneously:
Technical expert on the entire stack
Product and business domain expert
Team coordinator and decision-maker
Buffer between engineering and management
Informal mentor for other engineers
When one person occupies all of those roles, their departure often exposes dependencies that weren’t obvious while they were there.
I’ve seen a few common outcomes:
1. The team struggles initially, then adapts
This is probably the most common scenario.
After the lead leaves:
Decisions take longer.
People discover knowledge gaps.
Ownership gets redistributed.
Senior engineers step into areas they weren’t previously responsible for.
Productivity often dips for a few months, but eventually the team develops new experts and a new leadership structure emerges.
2. The team loses velocity for a long time
This happens when the lead was the primary holder of critical knowledge.
Typical signs:
Nobody understands certain systems well enough to modify them confidently.
Architectural decisions get deferred.
Management replaces the lead with someone who lacks context.
Remaining engineers spend significant time firefighting.
The team doesn’t collapse, but progress becomes noticeably slower.
3. Multiple departures follow
Sometimes a strong lead is a stabilizing force.
When they leave:
Other engineers start reconsidering their own situations.
Frustrations that were previously managed become more visible.
Confidence in leadership decreases.
The lead’s departure isn’t necessarily the cause; it’s often a symptom of broader organizational issues.
4. The team improves
This sounds counterintuitive, but it does happen.
Sometimes a highly capable lead becomes a bottleneck unintentionally because everyone relies on them. After they leave:
More engineers take ownership.
Knowledge spreads.
Decision-making becomes more distributed.
The transition is painful, but the team ends up more resilient.
What I’d pay attention to now
The key question isn’t “What happens if he leaves?”
It’s “How much of what he knows is documented, shared, and distributed?”
If you’re worried, you can start looking for signals:
Are architectural decisions documented?
Do multiple people understand the critical systems?
Could someone else reasonably lead a major incident?
Are business relationships concentrated in him?
Is there an obvious successor or leadership plan?
If the answer to most of those is “no,” then his departure would likely have a significant impact, at least in the short term.
One thing I’ve noticed repeatedly: teams often underestimate their ability to adapt. The first few months after a strong lead leaves can feel chaotic, but capable senior and mid-level engineers usually step up faster than anyone expects. The biggest risk isn’t losing a great individual—it’s discovering that the organization never built enough redundancy around that person in the first place.
martiantheory@reddit
Simple, you walk up to management, SLAM the desk with both hands and whisper… “I am the captain now”
Trust me, you’ll know what to do from there.
noturmommi@reddit
This is more or less what I did when our team lead left and I did in fact end up getting promoted into that spot 😅
martiantheory@reddit
See?! I’m telling people it works!
8ctopus-prime@reddit
They'll appreciate the candor and clear leadership when you do this. The next steps after you're fired will be to print out a copy of your resume, walk into the biggest dev shop in your area and tell them your ready to work. Make sure to slam the resume down on the desk with the same energy you used earlier in the process.
Nardnab@reddit
And when you slam it down, you say "You're welcome", then walk out without another word
martiantheory@reddit
Honestly, you can just loop through this process until a dev team accepts you as their leader. That’s how I got my first few jobs!
🤜💥👨💻
ProbablyANoobYo@reddit
The team slows down a bit but things continue on. A great lead is someone who ensures their team is constantly learning. While having all that knowledge in another individual is unrealistic, having it shared among the team should be reasonable and is something great leads intentionally target.
The biggest loss is the lead’s ability to push forward the team’s priorities to leadership and stakeholders, and the connections the lead has built overtime that help keep things moving. Rebuilding that takes time.
not_a_db_admin@reddit
Watched this happen on my last team. Lead left, everyone braced for collapse, and we all kinda realized we knew more of the stack than we thought. The painful part wasn't the missing expertise, it was suddenly having to make decisions in the meetings he used to handle for us.
tetryds@reddit
You prepare to leave if it turns to shit
straightouttaireland@reddit
Life goes on generally. Other Devs step up.
k1v1uq@reddit
Rule of thumb: predicting the future, is hard. But most of the time, life goes on.
That being said, 100% stay in touch, try to join him if things don't work out.
Him leaving could also bring new opportunities. Except the challenge. It can get rough though, work is 90% competition even if everyone sugar coats as in we are all one team.
If the lead has been with the same company consistently for over 10 years, and is halfway capable, the authority, domain and technical expertise he gained are hard to beat in combination.
That's why business owners often prefer to replace the position with someone outside (who they can control better).
admiralrads@reddit
This just happened to me; I worked on a team of two and my lead resigned effective immediately on a Friday evening. We had a few critical processes break that we didn't realize he was managing manually. Luckily we're working with a great team of contractors and they've helped us to stabilize things. I'm the de facto lead now and I'm making sure there's documentation for everything that we need to keep running.
Overall things have been fine because we have a few different teams of contractors managing most of the bigger things, but the transition was a bit rocky. I knew my lead was looking but I didn't expect him to bail with no warning, so my advice would be to make sure you always have a transition plan; you never know when someone will not show up next Monday.
tiajuanat@reddit
Similar situation, but instead the Lead straight up died. Bob was actually positioned to become the next Director of Engineering, and then he developed something similar to ALS and died in 3 months. He was 45 years old.
He had been with us 10 years at that point.
We're constantly trying to hire good folks, but great folks are never really out of a job. Hiring a replacement is futile. You need to grow a replacement.
You should talk with your Bob, and ask him to drag some of the younger folks to meetings and backbrief on what's discussed. Maybe he'll learn a bit more about delegation, and your newbies can learn the craft.
BraveResearcher3037@reddit
The world moves on.
No one is irreplaceable. If anyone got hit by a bus tomorrow the company might send flowers and thoughts and prayers to your family and have an open req out for your position before your body is buried.
They will only speak their name when it comes up in a git blame
dudeaciously@reddit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor
BraveResearcher3037@reddit
I have never seen a company go under because of one person leaving if the company was of any size.
dudeaciously@reddit
Exactly. But i have seen "irreplaceable" people who had tribal knowledge. They even had innocent intentions to always do the best, not hiding anything. But details can be so disorganized that if critical people retire, the speed and resilience of the group becomes greatly impacted.
spambait-aspaaaragus@reddit
whoa careful with that hot take. scalding hot
BeenThere11@reddit
Dont worry too much. Let the person who is responsible worry. Worst case you can leave now that you know he is leaving. Start looking. Worrying about things you cannot control is just acquiring stress. Noone is indispensable. Remember that
J_revolution@reddit
Someone else becomes the lead and starts learning the ropes. If you can, you should take that position and learn as much as you can imo. If it's too much, you can say the previous lead was doing the work of 2, 3 people and you'll need other more strategic roles to fill in his shoes.
james__jam@reddit
It’s either an Opportunity or a Threat. It depends on what you do with it
I highly recommend you treat this as an Opportunity. I mean no disrespect, but i’ve seen this several times in my career. Everybody respects the hero. But the hero is making everyone else mediocre
How long have you guys been in the team? If you guys still dont know the tech stack inside and out, and has very little political capital, then you were just getting carried.
It’s a vicious cycle. People rely on the hero more, so the hero gets better while everybody else barely grows because they’re not challenged enough. Which then results to the hero getting even more opportunities again while everybody else works on scraps.
Worse is everybody thinks it’s ok. The team think it’s great. The hero thinks it’s great. Management thinks it’s great. But it’s not. After X years, once the hero burns out and leaves, everybody will realize their career stagnated and the management created a single point of failure.
ParsnipResponsible80@reddit
Been through this exact situation. Our tech lead was the kind of person who held everything together, architecture decisions, stakeholder management, unblocking people across three different teams. When she left it felt like the floor dropped out for about a month.
What actually helped us recover faster than expected was that a few of us had been paying close attention to how she operated, not just the technical decisions but the reasoning behind them. Why she pushed back on certain timelines, how she framed tradeoffs to management, which battles she chose not to fight. That institutional knowledge doesnt have to leave with her if the team has been absorbing it.
The teams that struggle most after a great lead leaves are the ones that were purely dependent, nobody had developed their own read on the product direction or the business context. The ones that adapt well usually have at least one or two people who were already thinking at that level even if they weren't in the lead role officially.
If you have a good relationship with your lead, now is actually a good time to have more direct conversations about the roadmap, the architectural decisions in flight, and the reasoning behind things that arent documented anywhere. Not in a "you're leaving" way, just genuine curiosity. You will absorb more than you think.
The team dynamic will change, no question. But great leads also tend to leave teams better than they found them, the culture and standards they built dont just vanish.
Plenty_Line2696@reddit
you count your lucky stars that the code you inherited was made by someone competent.
DingBat99999@reddit
A few thoughts:
Livid_Conversation59@reddit
Yeah, I can relate to feeling concerned about the team's direction if your lead leaves. I've seen teams struggle when they lose a strong leader, and it's always important to be prepared for that eventuality. What I find interesting is that you mentioned management leaning heavily on your current lead, have they considered succession planning or delegating tasks more effectively?
Fragrant-Brilliant52@reddit (OP)
That’s a major problem at my company. They only put “rockstar” developers and leads on new initiatives or major projects. The rest of us are screwed every time a rockstar developer leaves, goes on PTO, transfers to another team, or leaves the company.
Then management acts shocked when no one has experience with a particular service. Last year, we worked on Okta authentication, and they put their two best developers on that project. One of them left the company, and the other was moved to another team. Now, whenever something goes wrong with the service, we either have to scramble to understand logic that was implemented before or reach out and bother the person who worked on it and is now on another team.
This is a very recurring pattern at my company.
wrex1816@reddit
Nobody is a hero. Everyone can be replaced. Best lesson you can learn.
No-Economics-8239@reddit
It's now wild hearing the perspective of people who haven't been doing this for decades. Change is scary. Sometimes it sucks. Sometimes it's fine. Sometimes things end up even better than before.
Maybe this will be an opportunity for you to step up and spread your wings. Or perhaps this is the first warning sign of the sinking ship. People move on. Teams change. Companies change. The market changes. Technology changes. The only constant is change.
If you have a good manager and it doesn't feel like snitching, talk with them about your concerns. Good managers tend to care about such things even if they aren't always in a position to do something about it.
If you don't have a line on the company scuttlebutt, look to expand your soft skills and tap into the rumor mill pipeline. Executive secretaries tend to have an inside line about lots of early warnings that could be useful to know.
Typically the top reason people end up leaving is people. Who's got your lead looking for the door? Are they causing problems for others? Are there any other factions within the company that also have problems with them? Sometimes problem people are a solvable problem.
Megamygdala@reddit
We had this happen. The lead didnt like our manager (who is full of ego and technically incompetent) so one day he just walked out and we never saw him again.
moxxon@reddit
If you have a well liked lead prepare for some of the team to jump ship and follow.
Every time I've left somewhere I've eventually wound up with several of my old team joining me at my new gig.
It's not usually right away, but within a year I'd bet on it.
thejazzophone@reddit
Bro chill I'm not going anywhere for at least 6 months. I'll leave you guys in good hands
iLikePeopleThatAre@reddit
I was once in such a situation as a lead. I was the one responsible to get the team up and running. The entire team was new to the area, 50% Juniors and an an excellent project manager.
I joined a new project that took up all my time and was really important for the company. Both me and the project manager thought that the original team would not be affected too much.
All the juniors panicked when I was leaving, but after some months they stepped up. Due to my initial role in the team, I was holding them back. Even when they got up to speed and start performing, they still thought that I was on a way higher level than they where.
Seylox@reddit
Life continues, but if you appreciated the person you'll miss the times before they left. Best advice is to stay in touch. You never know when you'll cross paths again.
Eastern-Reserve-3204@reddit
Start documenting everything he does now, especially the business logic and decision-making patterns, because that institutional knowledge walks out the door with him and you'll wish you had it captured and nobody else is going to do it for you.
Shep_Alderson@reddit
It can be rough for sure, though maybe not as rough as when the quiet person who’s been holding shit together behind the scenes, with no recognition for their work, leaves lol.
justnoise@reddit
There's two ways to advance at work: Either through study and practice you become the smartest person on your team or all the smart people leave.
bombaytrader@reddit
No one is that important. It will be fine.
rco8786@reddit
Other people step up. You’ll be fine.
obelix_dogmatix@reddit
Depends on the team. In my case I lucked out, we all stepped up in terms of taking ownership of different pieces of the codebase, and as a result grew experimentally in the following couple of years.
thefragfest@reddit
Short answer: it’ll be fine.
That kind of position is often quite under appreciated, but certain types are very good at it. That said, someone will fill the role again in the future and things will stabilize, or maybe you will, or maybe no one will and yet things will go on. It’s management’s problem to solve if he leaves, and you can be part of the solution if you want to be or not.
PoopsCodeAllTheTime@reddit
It’s not as scary, either everything goes on or everything starts to break down until it breaks
brik94@reddit
You the captain now
MedicatedApe@reddit
With a certain amount of money, comes the power of fuck you.
BusEquivalent9605@reddit
depends on the replacement
dead-first@reddit
AI just picks up the slack... No biggie
Rascal2pt0@reddit
New features may take a little longer but life goes on. Everyone is replaceable. Sometimes you may find the expert was actually holding you back. Sometimes it sucks hard because you lost someone with a ton of internal knowledge.
mllv1@reddit
Things will either get really bad, really good, or roughly stay the same
oVtcovOgwUP0j5sMQx2F@reddit
the world continues on
alnews@reddit
Greatly depends on the size of your company, if any other internal person can quickly adapt to a promotion (or a side move) and how much it can afford a transition period before going back to a normal flow.
I’ve seen large companies adapt with little to none friction to this scenario (I’ve come to learn that what an engineer consider catastrophic sometime is not really that much catastrophic from the company perspective) BUT I’m also pretty sure that a very small company can collapse in this scenario, although as you said I’ve always left before experiencing that.
3rdPoliceman@reddit
If they're a great lead then their absence should have minimal impact, otherwise they were a great engineer/developer.
blacklig@reddit
You take the hit and rebalance your estimates based on your new team capacity. It's management's problem beyond that.
It sounds like there's potentially stuff you can do before it gets to that point in this case though