Ghana parliament passes anti-LGBTQ+ bill
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seiryuu-abi@reddit
Not surprised tbh. Ghana is a pretty religious country. So is Uganda which went so far as to institute the death penalty (which the article brings up).
JustChillin3456@reddit
Canada and the US have the same percentage of religious populations
This is entirely a cultural issue
seiryuu-abi@reddit
The religiosity in Canada/US is not the same as in Ghana and Uganda. Americans and Canadians just pick and choose whatever is convenient for their beliefs and lifestyle and they do this with their religions as well.
The devout over here in this area don’t like LGBTQ+ but American laws make it difficult to discriminate against them so they can’t do anything. There’s a reason American politician Tim Walberg was prancing around in Uganda during the breakfast and brought up the Bible, not American and Ugandan culture.
JustChillin3456@reddit
Lmao is your argument that true Christianity is the persecution / murder of LGBT people ? I think it’s more like Ghana is a back water country that just hates gays
The majority of America is Christian (just like Ghana) meaning the majority of Christian’s support LGBT in America
I honestly don’t care about the random nobody you just mentioned
seiryuu-abi@reddit
Not once have I made such claims about what “true” Christianity even is. The religion has tens of thousands of denominations with conflicting beliefs. There are many places to argue about what “true” Christianity even is and anime_titties isn’t one of them.
Ghana’s churches were backing the law. This isn’t anything new, it’s been in the news for months especially after Uganda’s death penalty was passed. This is not to say that cultural beliefs against LGBTQ+ people don’t exist. But it’s not an entirely cultural issue like you said. But if your experience with Ghanaians is different and it is solely cultural for them then yeah I’d take my statement back.
Religiosity of American and Canadian Christians is not like Ghana. So yes while according to Pew 55% of American Christians believe that same-sex couples should be allowed to marry (putting them in the majority of Christians). That still makes them fall under all American adults (67%), other religions (80%), and religiously unaffiliated people (88%). The question is, what is it that makes American Christians so low in their support of same-sex marriage according to other Americans?
A state-level American politician for the breakfast is a random nobody? My point was that he argued in favor of the Bible, not American and Ugandan culture.
JustChillin3456@reddit
You said “Americans/ Canadians pick and choose their life style” they do, they actually practice their Christian beliefs like yknow, not murdering gay people
All of Africa has the same Cultural beliefs of persecuting LGBT people
As someone who knows American Christians they feel like marriage is apart of their religion and should be for man or women but it’s not like they’d ever would hurt/ persecute a gay couple
“The Bible” I googled him and he’s a evangelical Zionist , I should have known from the last name “berg”
seiryuu-abi@reddit
I find it interesting that there is something special about American and Canadian Christians that they “actually practice their Christian beliefs” compared to African Christians who don’t get this consideration. Somehow anything wrong African countries do is entirely cultural and absolutely nothing religious. Interesting.
JustChillin3456@reddit
Correct people from the east/ west have different values
You don’t get to point to a small African country and pretend that represents very single western Christian
seiryuu-abi@reddit
I said “Ghana is a pretty religious country” because their churches have been quite active in supporting this law. And yes westerners have different values they will ignore their religion to support same-sex marriage and choose their religion for something else they like.
I never used Ghana to talk about western Christians. You’re the one that started bringing in western Christians. Even then among the Americans they have some of the lowest support for same-sex marriage. This isn’t me “pretending” this is straight up data that you ignored.
JustChillin3456@reddit
Yea we established they're as Christian as the US/ Canada but religion isn’t why they want to kill gay people
“Ignore same-sex” it’s not ignoring it’s tolerating which is a core Christian tenet
Again there’s just zero evidence that religion itself is the cause of Ghana being like this .
seiryuu-abi@reddit
The article:
You:
You know what’s crazy? There is a part where they say, “Oh our culture and family values!” in the article but you didn’t even cite that once. I guess because we would’ve had to ignore the religious parts and lie that, “No, no. No religious leader supported this. It was only cultural groups that supported this.”
You want to argue culture and say religion and culture led to this? That’s fine. You want to argue that religion had nothing to do with it? That’s just not true.
JustChillin3456@reddit
Yes African leaders even those who are religious hate gay people I’m Aware. Still zero correlation between execution of gays and religion itself
“You didn’t cite” I said it like 3 times bro
Yes African culture and African religion lead to this but by saying “religion” itself you’re lumping in my western religion as well
seiryuu-abi@reddit
You said it was solely cultural. That’s what’s not true and what I had a problem with. I’m going to say religion because they’re citing the same damn thing and the religious groups are more prominent than the cultural ones.
“My western religion”, I’m sorry what? What “African religion” and “western religion” is happening here? It’s Christianity, it’s the same religion. Different churches and denominations, yeah that makes sense. Yeah, Americans and Canadians ignore their religion for their liberal culture which is why they have things like legal same-sex marriage, no fault divorce, inter-religious marriages with non-Christians, etc.
JustChillin3456@reddit
That’s like saying democracy always leads to bombing brown people in the Middle East. Just a complete removal of any nuance
Again tolerance = / = turning a blind eye
We allow gays to get married. We jail those that kill gays. Stop equating my people/ religion to savages
seiryuu-abi@reddit
Uh yeah you just keep bringing in like third factors for no reason. Now we need to say democracy means bombing the Middle East? Lol what? You keep using words like “backwater” and “savages” etc. What you’re accusing me of is what’s wrong with you.
Why am I supposed to think about American Christians on a post about Ghana?
JustChillin3456@reddit
Ok I’ll religion itself leads to this you’d see the same thing take Place in the west. That doesn’t happen because African religion is unique to there region
Democracy many times leads to brown people being bombed. Would you say that democracy is the reason the reason that happens ?
You shouldn’t think about any western when talking about Ghana yet you continue to imply they are the same creed
Somepotato@reddit
thank you American missionaries, so glad we don't tax these churches who go on to use the money they get to do incredibly heinous things
visthanatos@reddit
The parliament in Ghana has approved a new bill criminalising homosexuality and the promotion of LGBTQ+ activities. Identifying as lesbian, gay, bisexual transgender or queer can be punished by up to three years' imprisonment. The bill also introduces a "duty to report" prohibited acts to police.
Incompetent african leaders looking for a distraction 🤝🏿 anti lgbtq laws.
Lifekraft@reddit
They will find a way to blame ex colonial power for that, dont worry
the-southern-snek@reddit (OP)
The parliament in Ghana has approved a new bill criminalising homosexuality and the promotion of LGBTQ+ activities.
Identifying as lesbian, gay, bisexual transgender or queer can be punished by up to three years' imprisonment. The bill also introduces a "duty to report" prohibited acts to police.
Religious leaders have pressured President John Dramani Mahama, who still needs to ratify the legislation, to strengthen anti-gay laws since he came to power last year.
The ban has been sharply criticised by international organisations, including Human Rights Watch, which said it placed LGBTQ+ peoples' lives at risk while also "encouraging citizens to surveil and denounce one another".
Same-sex relationships have been banned in Ghana under laws dating from the British colonial era.
In an address to Parliament, the bill's sponsor Reverend John Ntim Fordjour said the bill protected Ghanaian family and cultural values.
He said the new bans would make existing laws "more robust, more encompassing, and more stringent in dealing with the practices of LGBTQI".
Anyone who identifies as an "ally", a general term for a supporter of LGBTQ+ people, could also face a prison sentence.
Exemptions were included for legal, media and healthcare professionals who report on LGBTQ+ issues or provide medical treatment or other services for gay people.
Human Rights Watch recommended the bill be abandoned, in a formal submission to the constitutional and legal affairs committee scrutinising the legislation in the capital Accra.
Ghana passed a similar bill in 2024 but it did not become law after former president Akufo-Addo failed to sign it amid legal challenges.
President Mahama has indicated he would support the bill's passage, saying shortly after he took office that "I believe in the principles and values that only two genders exist – man and woman. And that marriage is between a man and a woman."
Several African countries have cracked down on LGBTQ+ rights in recent years.
Senegal's parliament approved similar legislation in March which prescribes a maximum prison term of 10 years for sexual acts by same-sex couples and criminalising the ''promotion'' of homosexuality.
Uganda introduced a death penalty for certain same-sex acts in 2023.