Exactly. There are only two "leagues": ugly and not ugly. Only 20% of people are in ugly and these are people who are clearly ugly, meaning obese or disfigured or totally unkempt.
If you're in "not ugly", you can get anyone in the "not ugly" group.
Anon did what any good guy does, and builds up his woman. Makes her feel valued, like she matters, that she's important.
That solidifies her emotional foundation. That's what women look for in a man.
But this also activates their ability to make extremely stupid decisions.
Once they get gassed up like that, they think they can "trade up" and get an even better man, completely forgetting the man they're currently with is the one that built them up.
That's why if you listen to these women, they're often fucking miserable because they completely waste that effort and tear it all down over and over again. They get caught in a cycle, and eventually good dudes recognize these types of women (you'll see them called damaged goods, hoes, whores, etc)
funny thing is ive seen hot women settle with guys way below their league very likely because of the same reason, insecurity. they LIKE the feeling of being “above their league” and dont feel like they will ever cheat because… why would they if “theyre below their league”
This is the answer. My wife is way out of my league. We’ve been together for 20 years this July. She is completely secure and doesn’t seek outside validation.
My girlfriend before her was always accusing me of cheating or “looking at girls “ all the while she was cheating on me with anyone and everyone lol.
Yeah I only ever cheated when I was having problems with my self esteem. Not that my gf validates me as a five star man I have no interest in doing that
It's like trying to solve one of those boxes from Hellraiser. Even if you do somehow figure it out, you just end up with your guts torn out all the effort anyhow.
In a similar situation as OP, all I had dated so far were insecure women and they all had this “I don’t need no man” attitude, were promiscuous, had a lot of trauma or had huge commitment issues, one had all 4. Each and every single time it ended up in terrible terms despite the first year being great, tbh I blamed myself a lot for it bc I felt like the “common denominator”
Then my girlfriend comes along out of pure fucking chance, I wasn’t even looking for a partner when we met, and she has a stable, normal job, has only ever been with 2 guys sexually and they were both her partners, she gets to the point every time without any kind of arguing or fucking guessing games, extremely funny, insanely beautiful and hot, will always make time for me because she genuinely enjoys doing things with me and goes through any length necessary to make sure I’m happy. To this day I am still baffled she’s a real person and I know I am not a bad partner or anything but I still feel like I don’t deserve her lol
I guess women like her do exist, but you will definitely not find them in places like bars, online video games or dating apps, which is… where I met all my exes lol
Yeah I’ve been only dating ugly bitches cause I thought hotter women were more shallow but it’s actually the opposite. Took me awhile to figure that one out. One killed herself, one got groomed and left me, two cheated on me, and one woke up from a nightmare thinking I was hurting her and called the cops on me and the cops put me in jail for a day with a bullshit amount of bond with no physical evidence. So now I’m a chud.
You don't even have to be a hottie. They'll still do the same. My ex was a manlet KHV and still got it on with a married woman after years of telling me he would never find another woman beside me (if we ever broke up) outside arranged marriage. He was very insecure and depressed and jumped for the first wahmen that showed him attention apart from me. And this was after years of me boosting his confidence.
Anon is so focused on these variables that he doesn't see that this girl simply shares his values and habits, and is fine with the ones that differ. In other words: she genuinely likes him.
For once I had a good gf that wasn't regarded and then she died from a bloot clot. Started using 4chan for the first time in over a decade and made myself regarded.
Also like in the greentext, somehow (3 years later) I am now hooking up with a co worker I'd think is much out of my league. She asked me out too - idk what I did right?
in my understanding of how insecurty works, wouldnt it make people MORE prone to cheat? They would see cheating to affirm that they arent unattractive or ugly, and so they would lean into it to make themselves feel better
People are all just different and complex. There are loyal mids, there are hotties that cheat and become sluts. If they're cheating, they're probably just bad partners, and has nothing to do with their looks. If they're not into you, they should at least have the decency to end the relationship before hooking up with other guys.
anon made the mitake thinking that ugly women are somehow more virtous than pretty women. That's not at all true. Just because you're ugly doesn't mean you have any characteristics to make up for your deficits or that you actually think you deserve less. Some ugly people- both me and women. Are very entitled. Think of it as the milhouse effect.
Years ago, I realized that insecure people with low self esteem aren't actually loyal to you. They are loyal to their need for validation. The moment they find someone who gives them what they perceive more (or better) of it, they move on.
insecure people usually have a chip on their shoulders and are prone to self sabotage. this is true for both men and women.
of course not all ugly people are insecure, some are and some aren't.
but for example this is why some women say "i dated short guys before and they were worst and even more abusive than 'hot guys' who incels claim are bad guys"
in reality the short guys in the previous scenario self sabotaged because they're insecure just like the women in the post.
sometimes dating hot confident people is better because they genuinely chose you and aren't insecure with self worth problems that they project on you and the relationship.
Anon discovers that people are individuals and trying to predict any action of an individual will inevitably be futile as a result, regardless of statistics
This is kind of how it goes, like sometimes I feel that we are really supposed to reach for what seems out of our grasp to find what is right. We have to earn things, strive for something hard, and in that scenario it ends up better even if at first it didnt seem like it could be. The other girls you viewed as equals and so were not right. The one "above" your level took a mental shift and risk to go after and it worked out so far.
Dankie002@reddit
its all in your head. No such thing as a fixed level.
WagwanKenobi@reddit
Exactly. There are only two "leagues": ugly and not ugly. Only 20% of people are in ugly and these are people who are clearly ugly, meaning obese or disfigured or totally unkempt.
If you're in "not ugly", you can get anyone in the "not ugly" group.
Flush_Fries@reddit
Fred Sanford said you can get rid of fat, you can’t get rid of ugly
Spirited-Away4215@reddit
hits pipe jpeg
Robofro@reddit
ara_ara@reddit
This is what happened.
Anon did what any good guy does, and builds up his woman. Makes her feel valued, like she matters, that she's important.
That solidifies her emotional foundation. That's what women look for in a man.
But this also activates their ability to make extremely stupid decisions.
Once they get gassed up like that, they think they can "trade up" and get an even better man, completely forgetting the man they're currently with is the one that built them up.
That's why if you listen to these women, they're often fucking miserable because they completely waste that effort and tear it all down over and over again. They get caught in a cycle, and eventually good dudes recognize these types of women (you'll see them called damaged goods, hoes, whores, etc)
PabloSempai@reddit
☕️
thatscucktastic@reddit
Many such cases
Mother_Lead_554@reddit
Shes been run through more times than a mexican brothel and now has settled with anon.
PinBeneficial1366@reddit
Or she just love anon
thatscucktastic@reddit
Lmao
p00nki@reddit
funny thing is ive seen hot women settle with guys way below their league very likely because of the same reason, insecurity. they LIKE the feeling of being “above their league” and dont feel like they will ever cheat because… why would they if “theyre below their league”
Theghostbuddy@reddit
The woman who wasn't busted as fuck was secure in herself, and had no need to seek external validation, thus no disloyal behavior.
Women are often surprised when the same applies to men.
jprogarn@reddit
“Foids only want Chad who’s confident, charismatic, funny, and good looking!
Why won’t they give bitter, angry, antisocial guys who make no effort on their appearance a chance!”
thatscucktastic@reddit
Have sex, sweaty
tnf_swaggin@reddit
Said the chud
thatcockneythug@reddit
Yeah no shit
Theghostbuddy@reddit
enjoiYosi@reddit
This is the answer. My wife is way out of my league. We’ve been together for 20 years this July. She is completely secure and doesn’t seek outside validation.
My girlfriend before her was always accusing me of cheating or “looking at girls “ all the while she was cheating on me with anyone and everyone lol.
ok_scott@reddit
Possibly also he was putting more effort in for the hottie, and he was treating the other women less well because he wasn't grateful to have them.
mischling2543@reddit
Yeah I only ever cheated when I was having problems with my self esteem. Not that my gf validates me as a five star man I have no interest in doing that
Lorettooooooooo@reddit
Anon discovers "levels" don't exist and are fabricated bullshit we built ourselves to self-sabotage
PinBeneficial1366@reddit
We? I think it's society and parents that impose those ideas
Mr__Castle_@reddit
Trying to understand women is like trying to drink the ocean with a spoon.
MisfitActual0311@reddit
It's like trying to solve one of those boxes from Hellraiser. Even if you do somehow figure it out, you just end up with your guts torn out all the effort anyhow.
enjoiYosi@reddit
The Lament configuration
thatscucktastic@reddit
No tears, please. It's a waste of good suffering.
DarkScorpion48@reddit
Gonna steal this
Mr__Castle_@reddit
Yours is better.
OhSanders@reddit
It takes awhile?
CaptainQwazCaz@reddit
It’s bad for the climate
MaybeThisTime67@reddit
It's an impossible task
willindeed@reddit
Even longer if you use a fork
peterkedua@reddit
Its like thor drinking from a giant's Goblet
PhatInferno@reddit
This is why i stick to men 😎
neon@reddit
It’s not complicated
The first 3 cheated on a beta loser with the kinda guy he became when asked the hottie out
MarkedByNyx@reddit
In a similar situation as OP, all I had dated so far were insecure women and they all had this “I don’t need no man” attitude, were promiscuous, had a lot of trauma or had huge commitment issues, one had all 4. Each and every single time it ended up in terrible terms despite the first year being great, tbh I blamed myself a lot for it bc I felt like the “common denominator”
Then my girlfriend comes along out of pure fucking chance, I wasn’t even looking for a partner when we met, and she has a stable, normal job, has only ever been with 2 guys sexually and they were both her partners, she gets to the point every time without any kind of arguing or fucking guessing games, extremely funny, insanely beautiful and hot, will always make time for me because she genuinely enjoys doing things with me and goes through any length necessary to make sure I’m happy. To this day I am still baffled she’s a real person and I know I am not a bad partner or anything but I still feel like I don’t deserve her lol
I guess women like her do exist, but you will definitely not find them in places like bars, online video games or dating apps, which is… where I met all my exes lol
Big_Figs14@reddit
No 2 women are exactly the same anon
eternaltroll@reddit
Yeah I’ve been only dating ugly bitches cause I thought hotter women were more shallow but it’s actually the opposite. Took me awhile to figure that one out. One killed herself, one got groomed and left me, two cheated on me, and one woke up from a nightmare thinking I was hurting her and called the cops on me and the cops put me in jail for a day with a bullshit amount of bond with no physical evidence. So now I’m a chud.
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fudgemental@reddit
Scenario remains true with the situations reversed too.
Mid- guy with a hottie more likely to fuck things up because of insecurity. Hottie finds a chad and suddenly all is well with the world.
Arrival_Joker@reddit
You don't even have to be a hottie. They'll still do the same. My ex was a manlet KHV and still got it on with a married woman after years of telling me he would never find another woman beside me (if we ever broke up) outside arranged marriage. He was very insecure and depressed and jumped for the first wahmen that showed him attention apart from me. And this was after years of me boosting his confidence.
Dating a confident manlet now. What a difference.
reddit_hater@reddit
Sounds like you have a type lol
Arrival_Joker@reddit
Manlets? Unironically yes. I like manlets. It doesn't matter though since I'm mid and manlets don't like me often.
PinBeneficial1366@reddit
Still better than only be attracted to big height guys
VehaMeursault@reddit
Anon is so focused on these variables that he doesn't see that this girl simply shares his values and habits, and is fine with the ones that differ. In other words: she genuinely likes him.
Who knew.
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linknt01@reddit
The actions of insecure people have very little to do with you and a great deal to do with themselves. Sounds like OP found a secure person.
wordjedi@reddit
She's hot but broke, and anon makes an OK living
HolyBidetServitor@reddit
For once I had a good gf that wasn't regarded and then she died from a bloot clot. Started using 4chan for the first time in over a decade and made myself regarded.
Also like in the greentext, somehow (3 years later) I am now hooking up with a co worker I'd think is much out of my league. She asked me out too - idk what I did right?
VirtualPercentage737@reddit
Anon makes money now. Bitches like money.
Chewiemuse@reddit
in my understanding of how insecurty works, wouldnt it make people MORE prone to cheat? They would see cheating to affirm that they arent unattractive or ugly, and so they would lean into it to make themselves feel better
knox556@reddit
Anon is confused why these women aren’t attracted to some chud with low self esteem
As soon as a Chad thundercock gives them attention they’re gone
Anon is a placeholder so they can feel better about themselves
Vox_SFX@reddit
1) Anon isn't on the level he thinks compared to other dudes, maybe he's funny or something
2) Real love is weird, it's not about some mystical feeling in your chest...some people just choose a person and stick with it.
The_Adman@reddit
People are all just different and complex. There are loyal mids, there are hotties that cheat and become sluts. If they're cheating, they're probably just bad partners, and has nothing to do with their looks. If they're not into you, they should at least have the decency to end the relationship before hooking up with other guys.
tnf_swaggin@reddit
Ugly woman aren’t used to attention therefore they crave it and will cheat just to boost their ego
eximology@reddit
anon made the mitake thinking that ugly women are somehow more virtous than pretty women. That's not at all true. Just because you're ugly doesn't mean you have any characteristics to make up for your deficits or that you actually think you deserve less. Some ugly people- both me and women. Are very entitled. Think of it as the milhouse effect.
Lee_The_Roy@reddit
Anon is a fucking chad.
RigelVictoria@reddit
Years ago, I realized that insecure people with low self esteem aren't actually loyal to you. They are loyal to their need for validation. The moment they find someone who gives them what they perceive more (or better) of it, they move on.
Mercc@reddit
Where's the pic in the OP from again? I remember the dude trying to style on the girl beside him
ApeWashedClean@reddit
They’re all their own brand of batshit crazy that’s why
OffTheRedSand@reddit
insecure people usually have a chip on their shoulders and are prone to self sabotage. this is true for both men and women.
of course not all ugly people are insecure, some are and some aren't.
but for example this is why some women say "i dated short guys before and they were worst and even more abusive than 'hot guys' who incels claim are bad guys"
in reality the short guys in the previous scenario self sabotaged because they're insecure just like the women in the post.
sometimes dating hot confident people is better because they genuinely chose you and aren't insecure with self worth problems that they project on you and the relationship.
Electronic_Leek9147@reddit
I'm genuinely happy for anon. I wish to find someone who's not insecure like my ex.
Real and straight.
Coelachantiform@reddit
Anon discovers that people are individuals and trying to predict any action of an individual will inevitably be futile as a result, regardless of statistics
OldGaffer@reddit
This is kind of how it goes, like sometimes I feel that we are really supposed to reach for what seems out of our grasp to find what is right. We have to earn things, strive for something hard, and in that scenario it ends up better even if at first it didnt seem like it could be. The other girls you viewed as equals and so were not right. The one "above" your level took a mental shift and risk to go after and it worked out so far.
nedovolnoe_sopenie@reddit
breaking: local guy finds out confident people don't have to prove unreasonable shit to feel better about themselves, making them better partners
Angel_OfSolitude@reddit
Inferiority complex strikes hard.