co-driver being weird
Posted by IzgoyAgain@reddit | Truckers | View on Reddit | 18 comments
I got a new co driver this week he's a bit older. our first run this week I was in the sleeper I know for a fact I was there almost 12 hours. then later we switched and I saw that he actually did go over on his drive time HOS. So Im a new driver and instead of asking him why i acted dumb and asked if I ever go over do I ask him to step in and finish the run and he said yes thst's why we're in a team. So I said Ok and if he ever ran out of drive time he could ask me too, and he said yea, I almost did last run I had just barely made it because something about finding the fuel terminal at the hub was hard. So first of all he 1000% lied, and second why would you risk it and not ask your co-driver to drive if you're going into violation? I feel like he might have been embarrassed to ask a new driver for help, and I just had to address it somehow but also, I don't really get it.
Confident-Ear-9388@reddit
I know as a new driver it's gonna feel really strange when you actually see violations. I first started for swift and I thought it was crazy how much trailers I picked up ( mostly didnt) that were under the tread depths. That's definitely a hard thing to bring up as a new driver. But him pushing his hours does affect you in Terms of your safety. If your in the sleeper when he's tired, or even in the truck. People always say it won't happen to me. No one has ever said i'm the kind of person that get into sleepy accidents.
Gr00veChild@reddit
This is such a commonly overlooked point! I don't team, but I know there's a lot of trust both ways. Your co driver can get immediately punished for your choices.
DumatRising@reddit
Either grow a pair and talk to him directly or let it go.
Back when I did team shit I didn't like it when my co drivers got violations cause if I can't trust them to do something basic like swap out when we need to then how can I trust them to not fuck something up. But I have a pair so if they are doing something that's gonna cause me a problem I tell them directly to cut that shit out or we aren't gonna drive together anymore. It's that simple. Once or twice I get it shit happens but I need to make clear that it's better not become a pattern. If you've been driving for 11 it means I was sleeping for 11 so I'm good to tag in and there's no reason for the violation.
For me trust is important I have to be able to trust my co driver with simple and basic shit like this or I can't trust them to not be an idiot when it comes to the more difficult shit. If I can't trust them with basic shit then why would I trust them to drive the same truck I have to sleep in y'know? They get it a wreck cause they did something stupid and it could cost me a hell of a lot more than a late load would.
But if you aren't willing to talk to them directly about it then it must not be a big enough deal for you.
DrillTheThirdHole@reddit
your co-driver's violation isn't your violation. if him going over on his hours bothers you enough to take action, bring it up directly, and if he responds badly or keeps lying, text (do not call, text, you need receipts) safety.
you won't necessarily face consequences, but them getting put OOS can fuck up your money if you have to sit and either wait for them to get back in service or get replaced.
personally, i'd let him do his thing and if he gets in trouble, it's his problem.
DumatRising@reddit
I'm not that pressed if someone goes over a 70 or 8 but going over 14 or 11 is a bit concerning. A co-driver holds you life in their hands when they take the wheel, you don't really want them to be driving tired or making poor decisions.
IzgoyAgain@reddit (OP)
Fair enough I'd rather not talk about it again tbh, I can see how its none of my business and I doubt it would actually affect me
DrillTheThirdHole@reddit
probably a good move. the main reason i dont run teams is because if you have an issue with them, you're stuck out in the middle of nowhere, and while there may be consequences for him for physical altercations, none of them will come fast enough to save you.
unloader86@reddit
I'm so glad I don't do team driving. All I'm gonna say.
Elite_Slacker@reddit
The concept of being given some random new codriver makes me want to run
Ahatfie10@reddit
The only time I went over my hours in my three years of training was when traffic backed us up and my options were go over by a few minutes your do our swap in the shoulder. I wasn't going to have my newbie do his pre-trip in the shoulder in the dark, so I bit the bullet. I wonder if his co-driver was under a similar mindset at the time.
Corkymon87@reddit
My god 🤦🏼♂️ young people are so soft these days
HarleyTrekking@reddit
They’re beyond soft, mushy I would say.
_FearMose_@reddit
Some people are not ok with asking for help or confrontation. Honestly no one will know unless u ask him directly. Is he also a new driver?
I’ve never team driven so is the expectation between drivers is that you need to be up and ready to roll right after a 10?
IzgoyAgain@reddit (OP)
nah he has many years experience but I can see that also. We just switch halfway which is ideally yes right around 10 hours. but technically if its longer I stay til we reach point B as long as I'm in SB status. I would prefer to come out sooner..
Violet_Apathy@reddit
He probably didn't think that you had the stamina yet to take over. If he's significantly over, it's something you should be concerned about because that's your safety on the line. If he's over on his 70, meh. Should be modelling good behavior though.
___GRUMPY___@reddit
First off. You need only be concerned with your logs not his. You want him to be honest yet you played dumb. You should’ve put your big boy pants on and just asked him why he went over on his drive time.
Snappypants9@reddit
This is truth - good job asking what to do but not addressing issues directly and without prejudice and then telling little lies is a great plot ploy for movies but is less fun irl. Also - there is a change you didn’t understand exactly what he did - I know when I started driving I was quick to judge and slow to understand some deeper dynamics - you are probably correct but there is always a chance something is going on. The main thing is don’t be testing the guy to see if you can catch him in an untruth - just be direct or let it go.
IzgoyAgain@reddit (OP)
to your point I'm not even sure if I should be looking at other driver's logs