Can We Please Have An Honest Conversation About CPU Overkill For Average Users
Posted by dahiparatha@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 15 comments
Every few months this community goes through a cycle that I find genuinely fascinating and slightly exhausting.
Someone posts asking for a CPU recommendation for gaming and general use. The thread is filled with suggestions that are technically correct and practically excessive for someone who plays games at 1080p, browses the internet, and occasionally edits a video. The recommendations come with genuine enthusiasm and real technical knowledge and almost no acknowledgment that the person asking might not need the most capable option available.
I've built systems for myself and for friends for about twelve years. The single most consistent mistake I see people make is significantly over speccing the CPU relative to what they actually do and what the rest of their build can take advantage of.
If your bottleneck is your GPU, which it usually is in gaming, spending substantially more on a CPU that your GPU will never let stretch its legs is money that would have done more work elsewhere. The marginal frame rate difference between a mid range and high end CPU in most gaming scenarios is small and frequently invisible at the resolutions and frame rates most people are actually running.
The build that matches your actual use case beats the build that looks impressive on a spec sheet every single time.
I have a friend who works in IT procurement and builds systems constantly. He told me he once went looking for a bulk CPU purchase for a specific low demand application and ended up looking everywhere from local distributors to regional suppliers to listings on Alibaba. Prices look attractive on some of those channels, he said, but then you start asking the real questions about warranty, authenticity verification, and what happens if something fails at scale.
Know what you need. Build to that. Not to the ceiling.
propagandhi45@reddit
The most active users on here consider anything below a ryzen 7 7700x trash. Same for gpu. Anything below 5070 is trash.
No_Entertainer_3052@reddit
is this aimed at the 9070xt/9800x3d reddit loves to recommend?
irreverentnoodles@reddit
Yea exactly! That’s why I got a 9070xt and *7800x3d* to play my ms-dos games from the 90s!
(I wish this was satire but it’s not lol)
No_Entertainer_3052@reddit
two of my most played games are rimworld and factorio so i get it
STRYED0R@reddit
Thanks for this. It was quite an annoyance!
MAX OUT GPU, stick with AM4, wait for cheaper X3D or AM5 ram.
Varkoth@reddit
Giving these people slow hardware gives them a negative experience, and pushes the needle towards them not developing an interest in fully utilizing their specs. They end up thinking that all tech is kinda lame, because they only experience lame tech.
Low end tech is also a bit of a poor-tax, like work boots. If you pay for a $50 pair of work boots, you'll have to replace it in a year. If you buy a $200 pair and maintain them, they'll last 5.
I agree that these people do not need supercomputers for their phone. But they definitely need better than a $150 tablet. But overspeccing a little bit can be a good thing.
DeepSoftware9460@reddit
A lot of people who build for games are fine turning on upscalers which lightens the load on the GPU and will make the CPU bottleneck first.
Vengeful111@reddit
Well anyone that has ever had a cpu bottleneck in a game they liked will know to overspend on cpu rather than gpu.
Also overspending on cpu is like 100, maybe 200$ more, going up one tier of gpu is like 500$ to 1000$ and nets what... 10% more frames?
A cpu bottleneck feels like shit cuz its micro stutters and dropped frames. Gpu bottleneck is mostly just a bit lower consistent fps.
A non gaming average user will be super fine with the cheapest consumer cpu tho.
Cpus really came a long way the last few years. They kinda outpaced the enshittyfication of windows in a sense.
Puiucs@reddit
"practically excessive for someone who plays games at 1080p" - it depends a lot on the GPU and future plans of the person who's asking about the upgrade. and ofc the budget.
saying that overspeccing the CPU is "wrong" is an oversimplification. the vast majority of threads i've seen are sensible, give good advice and also ask the right questions. if the OP says that he plans to upgrade the GPU later on, do you still tell him to buy a cheap CPU that you know will affect general gaming performance?
and being technically correct is better than giving wrong advice.
No_Spare1827@reddit
Well not that I disagree but there are a lot of people who want the best possible CPU they can get so that they only have to upgrade the GPU and not worry about the rest of the system, again for the most part I agree but the average user puts it together and forgets what they even have and well if they want to spend extra on a part that will go the distance then Im not sure I see anything wrong with that.
Are there plenty of builds that take it too far yes builds that use way to much of thier budget on a CPU they dont need yes, but hey it never rhurts to have more than u need if u can reasonably afford it
JoshLineberry@reddit
Exactly. Everyone acting like you need a 9800x3d when you only game occasionally and could get the performance you need for half the price is ridiculous.
thingsinmyjeep@reddit
I need as much performance as I can afford because I'm used to working with corporate lowest bidder crap.
Tiny-Chipmunk7211@reddit
I couldn't agree more to be honest with you. However, it is good practice still to slightly over spec your CPU I think. I'm not saying pair a 9800x3d with a 5070 that doesn't make too too much sense for most people imo but I am saying maybe buy an intel core ultra with a good amount of cores that will be "futureproof" without costing too too much
Tiny-Chipmunk7211@reddit
ofc AMD options are also valid not just intel
Steel_Bolt@reddit
I've been throwing a 9600x in every computer I build for my coworkers. Such a good price rn and the perfect amount of CPU for gaming and general use.