Ferrari CEO defends new Luce EV, saying customer interest is strong
Posted by cy_88@reddit | cars | View on Reddit | 166 comments
Posted by cy_88@reddit | cars | View on Reddit | 166 comments
sigmmakappa@reddit
I'll wait until they hit 99% depreciation to finally been able to afford a Ferrari.
XxRoyalxTigerxX@reddit
It didn’t make sense to me why they made this till I thought “what if china?” and that answered all the questions.
If you’re a wealthy family in Beijing and want to show off your status, strict plate laws make that hard, but if you have an EV Ferrari you can whip that around 7 days a week without a care
V8-Turbo-Hybrid@reddit
But, they aren’t in right time to do that, as more Chinese people are going their domestic automakers.
KC0023@reddit
Not the ultra wealthy. They want foreign, European more precisely when it comes to their luxury goods.
NoahFect@reddit
They want cars that signal their wealth and taste, not cars that signal "I bought one BYD for the price of 20."
LuizFelipe1906@reddit
Not even the chinese are liking that car bro
cannedrex2406@reddit
CEO who needs job, defends job
ElonDoneABellamy@reddit
15 years ago people who bought Lambos didn't want an SUV. Now everyone is creaming over the Urus.
This will sell loads.
cannedrex2406@reddit
People said that for the Taycan and EV SUVs but those genuinely don't seem to be.
The market at the top end is always geared to ICE cars. I don't mind being wrong, but as you say, time will tell
wtfduud@reddit
They're still selling over 20k Taycans per year.
BraveFencerMusashi@reddit
The Urus still looks like a Lambo
Tumbleweedwhacker@reddit
Umm, 15 years ago they bought the Lamborghini LM002, like Sylvester Stallone or the Sultan of Brunei.
AtomWorker@reddit
The problem with the Luce isn’t that it’s an EV. It’s how it looks. It’s not ugly so much as it looks fairly conventional and not befitting its price tag.
holchansg@reddit
Him: I would much rather a v12 GT.
PR: Sir, you are the CEO.
Oh shit, my bad!
MilkBeforeSerial@reddit
manual dodici cilindri is coming btw
crshbndct@reddit
Ugh why is that even a thing? It’s like bmw saying their new car is called the rear wheel drive. Or Subaru calling their new car the boxer. Its what they have been famous for for 60 fucking years
cannedrex2406@reddit
Wait till you hear about the Alfa Romeo 8C or any Ferrari mid engined V8 in the past 30 years
crshbndct@reddit
Ferrari doesn’t make V8 cars
glidingMANATEE@reddit
huh?
CharlesElwoodYeager@reddit
That'll be cool, the superfast version of the diddy socreepy is also probably going to be announced soon
RobinsShaman@reddit
(former CEO)
V8-Turbo-Hybrid@reddit
He would be no longer to stay CEO job after shareholders unhappy his decision.
BeautifulCuriousLiar@reddit
salesman says car is great and will sell
jianh1989@reddit
Gotta save face and save plummeting share price
CMDR_omnicognate@reddit
Well yeah the ceo has to defend the new car. If he came out and said “yeah guys it’s pretty awful sorry” it would make their stock tank even harder
NoahFect@reddit
Honestly? If he came out and said that, I'd buy some RACE just to support him.
w3stvirginia@reddit
I’ll play devil’s advocate here and say I don’t think it looks that bad. I mean, it doesn’t look like a Ferrari at all, but it looks better than those coupe suv things Mercedes and BMW make and somehow seem to sell.
loulan@reddit
I think it looks cool but I'm kinda afraid to say it here.
The_Flying_Sausage@reddit
Nobody would care if it was a $45,000 Honda. Unfortunately, it’s a $640,000 Ferrari that looks like a $45,000 Honda.
w3stvirginia@reddit
Is that not what I said?
andrewjaekim@reddit
Ferrari will just require their customers to purchase a Luce alongside whatever limited edition Ferrari is coming soon.
caterham09@reddit
Must buy 3 Luce, a 296, and 2 Purosangue to get on the wait list for an f90
AnonymousEngineer_@reddit
The thing is, I don't actually believe they'll need to do that, because I don't believe that there's much of an intersection between the people who want EVs and supercars.
Rimac's experience with struggling to sell the full production run of the Nevera proves that point.
I actually do think there's a bunch of people who will buy this thing.
footpole@reddit
I don’t follow your logic.
Geofferz@reddit
People who buy ferraris and people who buy evs may not intersect in a Venn diagram so this 'buy a ferrari ev to get a limited ice ferrari' may not work
carpenj@reddit
That's exactly why they'll do it? They'll say "to get the car you really want, you HAVE to buy the one you don't want". Rolex ADs do the same thing.
James_Vowles@reddit
They said they won't do that with this car. They even said existing customers should not buy this car. They don't want their customers to buy it. They expect 80% of buyers to be brand new customers
carpenj@reddit
Is it up to them though, or is it up to the dealers with these sitting on lots? I honestly don't know the answer to that question so I'm not being snarky. I've never bought a Ferrari so I don't know how much the process differs from, say, going to a Porsche dealership.
NoahFect@reddit
The dealers are the ones who don't have a choice. They will be forced to accept Luce allocations in order to get more desirable cars, ones that actually sell.
This is the Maserati playbook all over again.
F1T_13@reddit
It will intersect because the customers will want other limited Ferrari's, if they want it enough, they'll take whatever Ferrari asks.
footpole@reddit
This part does not follow.
AnonymousEngineer_@reddit
My logic is that there's a market completely aside from the traditional Ferrari buying demographic that will buy this thing.
People are suggesting that the Ferrari CEO is lying about there being demand for the car, or that people are ordering it to try and get the next special car - but I think that's just cope from petrolheads who hate the Luce and want it to fail catastrophically.
footpole@reddit
I'm very much all in on EVs and don't find anything attractive about ICE cars but I wouldn't buy the Luce and not just because I can't fit my family in there after I sell our home to buy it.
My point was more that your logic doesn't flow. The Rimac was not counting on the ICE supercar crowd and was a new EV supercar offering and failed.
bse50@reddit
To some people dropping 700k on a car on a whim just to add it to their collection or as a status symbol is a non-issue. That's the target Ferrari is aiming for. How many people buy gizmos they don't need or even really like just to have them? The rich are just the same, and often can't understand poor assholes like me who fight to keep an '87 Ferrari that's slow and drives like shit on the road.
Sixspeeddreams_again@reddit
308?
sequelseize@reddit
Leaked marketing strategy for the Luce
footpole@reddit
I hate Imgur so much. Impossible to use on mobile.
beamdriver@reddit
I'm very pro-EV and I believe they days of ICE cars as normie transport are numbered.
That being said, there is no market for a half million dollar EV.
Dopplegangr1@reddit
It has been proven again and again that nobody wants luxury EV. Everyone time they fail and depreciate 80% immediately
Immediate_Bee_6472@reddit
Luxury Evs and gas cars level about to the same depreciation after 5 years evs (40-50%) gas cars (40-46%)
Luxury evs take a harder hit first two years
James_Vowles@reddit
People are buying them though, for them to end up on the used market for less than half price
AnonymousEngineer_@reddit
In fairness, high end luxury cars with a combustion engine aren't immune to high depreciation, either.
The Mercedes S Class, BMW 7 Series and Audi A8 are notorious for it, as is the Porsche Panamera.
tablepennywad@reddit
Bottom line, people who have money will buy stuff to fill their bottomless pit of desire.
Track2Trail@reddit
Porsche did the exact same to move the taycan
Dragonasaur@reddit
Unless it's more "sporty" EV than luxury EV
Also look at the Celestiq
K_R_A_K_E_N_540@reddit
The Nevera was 30x more expensive than a Model S that has 2.5x more seats, has more range and the performance so similar you'd need gps trackers to tell the difference. Oh and most importantly, it has NO brand name whatsoever. Could've called it McPooper and it would've had the same brand value.
Ok-Response-839@reddit
Saying that Rimac has no brand name is hilarious. Would you say the same about Koenigsegg?
4514919@reddit
Koenigsegg and Rimac have nothing in common.
Koenigsegg has built around a dozen different hypercar models, all of which sold out, while Rimac flopped with both of its models.
Rimac's entire brand recognition comes from Hammond crashing one of their cars and Carwow's drag races.
boomer2009@reddit
Yes. We’re in a car subreddit. Most people don’t follow boutique brands out there in the real world.
MrReadilyUnready@reddit
The thing is it doesn't seem to actually be ultra luxury. I've obviously not been in one yet, but you could very easily convince me that it's a £60k car from the interior. The rear bench honestly looks worse than what you find in a 3 series.
The interior of the Spectre is leaps and bounds ahead.
F1T_13@reddit
The demand for ultra premium luxury EV's is not that big at all. Even the Spectre didn't perform all that well because it's customers see the V12 as mechanical art.
Besides, most people see Ferrari as a supercar brand. If you look for an EV, you're not going to search up Ferrari for one.
boomer2009@reddit
💯
A Model S Plaid will work just fine, or any of the luxury Chinese EVs that you can get anywhere outside the U.S. Rich people view EVs as basically one step above a golf cart.
boomer2009@reddit
I’m confused, your first paragraph contradicts your last paragraph.
Anyways, rich people don’t really give a shit about the environment. You think they’re going to drive an EV Ferrari to the private terminal and hop on their jet? Anecdotally, the rich people I know have a screw the environment and everyone else sociopathy about themselves. If you want datapoints, look at the Taycan sales debacle. GT3RS drivers don’t want the Taycan (even though they are nice cars)
jianh1989@reddit
There’s Taycan Turbo GT too.
kinkycarbon@reddit
Ferrari can. Jay Leno doesn’t like Ferrari nor does he own one. Buying a Ferrari is buying into the Family with specific ownership requirements for future vehicle allocation. They can track how fast you sell your Ferrari. This is the car you buy when you have zero plans to modify and own for a long time.
This buying model isn’t limited to Ferrari. Similar to Rolex and Hermès.
mikolv2@reddit
They have already publicly announced no customer will be required to buy the Luce to get another model.
m1a2c2kali@reddit
Wonder if all the dealerships will get that memo
mikolv2@reddit
Allocations for things like F80 or icona series come from Ferrari directly, not dealerships
StandupJetskier@reddit
We'll know, you have to sign an NDA and give up all your socials and passwords.
alfredadamski@reddit
I'd happily take any 296 or Purosangue off their hands (= the people who have to buy those in order to get other models) for free! Ferrari might be not happy if you immediately sell cars after the purchase, but could not care less if you give away or gift it to someone. And if you are that filthy rich, you won't care if you give away a Ferrari 296. Where is Oprah when you need her? "You get a Ferrari 296, you get a Ferrari 296, you get a Ferrari 296, you get a Ferrari 296, and you get Ferrari 296! You all get a Ferrari 296!" Can I have my Ferrari 296 in a lovely dark blue or shade with brownish or tan leather interior? I do not like resale red. Many thanks!
Evergreen1055@reddit
He specifically said this wouldn’t be the case.
James_Vowles@reddit
I doubt they'll do that with this car
wimpires@reddit
Ferrari sells like 14,000 cars a year. Up from about 8,000-10,000 5 years ago where it was relatively steady. The Purosangue is like 20-25% of the sales. If they sell 1,000 of these a year it would be a success in Ferrari's eyes. They can find 1,000 customers... especially when the topic on conversation is "I'm sorry but the order books on the F80 are currently closed, can I interest you in a Luce however? And maybe we can discuss this again in 6 months time."
Silentkindfromsauna@reddit
I have been saying this for days but everyone doesn’t get over the looks claiming that will somehow affect the demand. Ferrari does bold stuff, people will hate them for it, but ultimately this will age okay. Enzo also was responsible for plenty of questionable Ferraris that people still hate on apart from niche interest.
RBR927@reddit
“Ultimately this will age okay”
Have you seen it…?
costryme@reddit
Some people are unfortunately blind to bad design.
IsometricRain@reddit
Here's a whole group of them
r/bmw
elastic_woodpecker@reddit
Yeah, case in point: ‘Infuencers’ buying Cybertats.
MisterEinc@reddit
And some people use objective when they mean subjective, and literaly when they mean figuratively.
Whats your point?
Silentkindfromsauna@reddit
You don’t need to look far back to find cars which people (especially on reddit) were clowning on and which are now accepted
RBR927@reddit
For example…?
r00000000@reddit
The pig nosed BMWs are probably the best example I can think of, they're hated on here but are probably the Gen Z poster child car and I've seen plenty of older Gen Z and younger Millennials go deep into debt for M3s and M4s
That being said, I don't think the same will happen for the Luce, and I think it'll probably end up like the Cybertruck at best where most ppl hate them but have a niche following.
costryme@reddit
...what ? The pig nosed BMWs are still the epitome of bad design, and it's the case for almost all of the BMW line up to be honest. Just bad decisions in general.
r00000000@reddit
I don't agree, I think Reddit trends older and they prefer the older BMW designs but on Tiktok, a lot of the younger car enthusiasts like the more aggressive, obnoxious design that separates the M cars from regular BMWs. There's a possibility the Luce might have some of that too where a demographic we don't think about yet will like the design, but one of the differences I see is that the BMWs have a community that do like the new grilles which we think are ugly, but the Luce is getting hate from all corners of the internet, even outside the car community, more like the cybertruck.
stoned-autistic-dude@reddit
The average Reddit age is like 18.
Also, TikTok is a clout platform. They like the M4 because they all want 1,000 horsepower and they just need a DOWNPIPE AND A TUNE^TM to achieve stupid power figures. Every time I see some kid at a meet and talk to them about my car, they’ll ask how much horsepower it has and then immediately ask me why I don’t have an M4 when all it needs is a DOWNPIPE AND A TUNE^TM. Then they’ll tell me their dream M4 build and you turn around and it’s literally the same build as almost every other M4 parked in the lot.
I was guilty of this too when I was younger—I sort of brushed off the S2000 when I was 13 because it maxed out at “only” 700 horsepower in Gran Turismo 2, but now my engine is stock while virtually everything else has been changed.
So they like the M4 because they think “bigger number gooder”, and the M4 allows them to achieve those unrealistic goals for just $20 and a handshake. The M4 still looks terrible somehow. This is despite the F8x and E9x having grown on me pre-LCI, and this somehow still looks ridiculous. The mere exposure effect hasn’t helped this car, whereas the Neue Klasse looks great—so sometimes it really is just shitty design.
Silentkindfromsauna@reddit
Amen
Impossibrewww@reddit
The M3 and M4 are fantastic cars DESPITE having that ugly pig face.
RBR927@reddit
Those are still ugly, bad example.
Silentkindfromsauna@reddit
911 996, all new big grill bmw saloons and coupes, c8 corvette. I’m even seeing positive opinions about the jaguar relaunch and people going back that “actually it was just the branding that’s weird, the car is cool”
RBR927@reddit
Using the awful looking BMWs as an example is wild.
noodlecrap@reddit
Enzo is revolving in his grave
born_Racer11@reddit
The problem isn't Ferrari doing EVs, the problem is Ferrari doing an EV that's so disconnected to the brand and it's legacy and one that's just universally objectively ugly, and that costs an out-of-touch-to-reality price tag, and then proceeding to defend all of this.
JuliusCeaserBoneHead@reddit
Unfortunately it’s because they will find buyers for it. We are definitely not the intended buyers
MrReadilyUnready@reddit
The market for luxury EVs is actually miniscule. This is the most expensive EV that isn't a hypercar; it costs more than the Purosangue and Rolls Spectre.
LuizFelipe1906@reddit
Wdym it isn't a hypercar?
MrReadilyUnready@reddit
It's a 4-door SUV. Having 1000bhp doesn't make it a hypercar.
LuizFelipe1906@reddit
Bro that car is not a SUV
Luce has absolutely nothing in common with a SUV
LuizFelipe1906@reddit
That's what I'm talking. Luce is a completely different talk from Lanzador, I see so many people talking "oh good thing Lambo cancelled their EV" when being EV is far from being a problem.
Team503@reddit
Yeah, it's ugly. Johnny Ives should stick to designing iPhones and Macs.
Rexaroooo@reddit
Yeah, people are dying to see just how shitty it really is. Interest is interest, I guess.
larryinthesky@reddit
I'm honestly so glad I'm over my Ferrari "phase". There was a point in my life where I wanted to make a lot of money so I could get a Ferrari. But I've come to actively not like Ferraris. I might still get a Ferrari-like car soon but the Prancing Horse brand just doesn't do it for me anymore and actually makes me cringe a bit.
Dan_TheGreat@reddit
Well yeah what else are they going to say, Ferrari can never misstep.
Also when one or more of these will be a requirement to buy for anything remotely limited, they’ll sell what they need to make it a success 😂
RichardNixon345@reddit
They should have made it a submarque like the Dino.
black_flag_4ever@reddit
I’m just going to assume that they’re making this car because there’s rich people that would buy it. They don’t make cars that anyone actually needs and 99.99% of us can never afford one so who cares?
Tumbleweedwhacker@reddit
Well judging by the intense reactions a metric fuckton of people care.
Tumbleweedwhacker@reddit
Firstly the incompetence to let this car out of the factory and now lies. What next? Claiming black is white?
ArthurFinchleyIII@reddit
The only problem with it is the exterior is ugly. The interior is fantastic and maybe rich people want a fancy EV to swan around town in. Who cares about the range? EV range is a total non-issue at this point, except for the expensive cost to charge at motorway services (something I doubt you’ll complain about if you’re driving half a million pounds worth of Ferrari about).
But as Doug says: the ugly cars of today will be the desired cars of tomorrow.
As time goes on I find all of the ugly designs I thought were awful as a kid grow on me massively.
RBR927@reddit
The interior reminds me of my son’s Fisher Price toys. I’m sure everything feels fantastic to touch, but the way it looks is a choice for sure.
JohnCavil@reddit
Apple and 21st century electronics design has corrupted people's idea of what good design is. Now something looking like an iPad is "good design". Minimalist and glass everywhere, huge screens, such great car interior design.
Apple design has become what so many people just think of as good design. The interior looks fine if I was buying some new mid range commuter EV, it absolutely does not look fine for a Ferrari. Ferrari's are meant to make you feel something, and this interior makes me feel nothing. It's just sleek and practical, inoffensive and bland. That's what I want my phone or airfryer to look like, not works of art.
Like you I absolutely do not understand why people praise the interior.
ArthurFinchleyIII@reddit
Very reductive way to describe a style that built on years of Bauhaus/Dieter Rams design.
I also disagree that you can say “Apple and 21st century electronics design”. They’re complete opposites, imo. Apple doesn’t design things the same way as the rest of the market. They move first and set the standards.
JohnCavil@reddit
I don't care if they're first, they still massively influenced 2008+ design. The result is the same, which is products looking identical, or going for the same style.
You said it yourself with "they set the standard". That's what you see in the Luce's interior design, it's the Apple standard. It's not a Ferrari design, it's not really a new design language, it's just Apple style tech design brought to a car interior. I don't think you can claim that Apple and 21st century electronics design are "complete opposites" and then also admit that Apple sets the standard.
I don't have any problem with Apple anyways, I don't really care what a smartphone or tablet looks like, but Apples looks fine, or great, I don't mind it. My only problem is when that design clearly heavily influences designs in completely different areas that don't fit.
Homogenization of design in general is a trend all over the world. Where cities start to look the same, products start to look the same, instead of having unique identities. You have global trends that can completely and wipe out what were unique styles.
ArthurFinchleyIII@reddit
No other car interior looks like this. It’s unique and, I think, stunning.
It’s the complete opposite of homogenisation. It’s a breath of fresh air in the car world. It’s mixing tech and tradition in a beautiful, tactile way.
If anyone ruined car interior design, it’s Tesla. Slap a big screen on it and remove all the buttons. What a mess. I’m glad we’re recovering from that madness now.
strongmanass@reddit
That's been exactly my sentiment since they released the first images of the interior. You just expressed it much better than I have been.
hutacars@reddit
Like what?
ArthurFinchleyIII@reddit
Everyone has different taste, but I think everyone will have something they can point to and say it’s grown on them since it came out. Some cars are just ahead of their time I think.
For me personally, the i3 stands out. I was just getting into cars and I thought it was the stupidest, ugliest car I’ve ever seen. I couldn’t imagine why anyone would drive one. Now I think they’re great. I’d love one to pootle about town in. The second gen Clios are growing on me now too, as are the mk1 Audi TTs, although I suspect many people might have actually liked them at new whereas I didn’t.
I think when Doug talked about this he mentioned the Aztec and the Multipla. I’m not agreeing with him on the Aztec yet, but I do think the Multipla is quite cool now whereas as a teen I thought they were hateful things.
Chris Harris has mentioned this on his pod a few times and they’ve brought up cars like the Alfa SZ, they’ve talked about the new buck-toothed M3 growing on them (which is growing on me as well), they talked about the DB7 being a big change but growing on them with time, and the Ferrari 612 scaglietti.
Dopamine63@reddit
Weather its true or not aside, of course vast majority of people who are hating on it online are not the target customer. So its not that surprising.
RBR927@reddit
Ferrari is an aspirational brand, just look at how much merch they sell to non-owners.
This was a big misstep for them.
xStaabOnMyKnobx@reddit
The supercar business feeds the true moneymaker: hats and keychains.
ThatOneBr@reddit
The funniest thing is that it's true. Not hats and keychains alone, obviously, but ferrari is a lifestyle brand along with making supercars. Just look at the amount of merch, licenses and everything else they sell.
LuizFelipe1906@reddit
You're forgetting the games and miniatures. What would be of Ferrari if they didn't sell all those mini cars for us?
MakeGovtObsolete@reddit
You joke, but it makes more money than the cars. I’m sure the Luce will severely hurt their merch sales.
SnikySquirrel@reddit
I always assumed the merch was for fans of their race teams, right?
RBR927@reddit
It’s for fans of Ferrari, not just the race teams.
hutacars@reddit
Usually internet (and especially Reddit) sentiment is the polar opposite of reality. So it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if this is a smashing success, heh.
elastic_woodpecker@reddit
On the biggest Ferrari forum (Ferrarichat) 99.9% hates it. This is unprecedented there for a new Ferrari model.
-32768@reddit
My chevy bolt is less dorky than this car.
nopester24@reddit
To be fair, most people complaining cannot and will never be able to buy any Ferrari, myself included. But the people that actually can buy a Ferrari are real ch enough to buy anything so sure, they probably are fine we th the Luce
hugeness101@reddit
Just admit it’s not a winner and move on. I mean Porsche didn’t get it right in the 80’s with some models and Ferrari had some rough years in the early 90’s plus Lamborghini is making SUV’s now so they sold out a long time ago.
VariationAgreeable29@reddit
Bullshit. No one would dare own one of these. They’re hideous and now a laughable meme
boomhower1820@reddit
I just can't get the combo of ugly plus insane price. Clearly they don't actually want to sell them. I can see ugly at $250k and gorgeous at $600k. Ugly and expensive just says they don't actually want to sell them.
antons83@reddit
Ferrari's are dope cars, but they 100% dropped the ball on this one. Luce looks like a hyundai concept car.
WeakerThanYou@reddit
not even joking, with hyundai putting out bangers like the N74, this is an insult to hyundai concept cars.
antons83@reddit
Haha it's true. Hyundai's doing great things
RobertFahey@reddit
Then make a separate brand to avoid polluting Ferrari.
IAmWellBehaved@reddit
That's actually a great idea. Ferrari is already one of the world's most valuable automakers, with a market cap exceeding giants like VW Group or the new combined Stellantis from which they (sort of) came.
Any really large business that does something incredibly successfully eventually needs to seek other revenue streams to continue growing the business. In other industries for example we've seen Apple get into streaming and more services, or Netflix looking at legacy movie studios, gaming, and Netflix House. Ferrari already has begun this too, with their theme parks and high fashion line to create the kind of luxury lifestyle brand that we already associate with, say, Louis Vuitton (originally a trunk maker, now making of fashion, watches, restaurants, etc) or Armani (originated in fashion but now has products for your home, hotels, and floral, etc). I'd be shocked if they aren't internally discussing more ways of extending the Ferrari brand.
As it relates back to Ferrari with cars and your idea though, there's plenty more money to be made if they'd go with mass or premium brands so long as they effectively distance the brand from Ferrari proper will maybe letting you know it's still "from the same people who make Ferraris". Frankly, they might as well buy Alfa Romeo or Maserati, heck, maybe even Fiat (not like there's any great confidence Stellantis will accomplish much with any of these in the foreseeable future), and get into more segments to generate more profit. Or they can build a brand organically, call it Dino (why not), and position them against brands in the premium segment.
V8-Turbo-Hybrid@reddit
They should ask STLA, their former mother company Fiat for Alfa Romeo.
Privateer_Lev_Arris@reddit
Hahahahahah yeah if they want to be a laughing stock.
J1mj0hns0n@reddit
Interest is high, but it's morbid curiosity.
wanttobedone@reddit
Counterpoint: Have you seen what it looks like?
jameson71@reddit
Look, Redditors are obviously Ferrari's most important customer base so they should listen. They always buy what they say manufacturers should make.
/s
shmodder@reddit
There are dozens of customers, dozens!
Big-Energy-3363@reddit
Liar
Pepalopolis@reddit
I don’t believe you
saarlac@reddit
im sure there are LOTS of people waiting to drop half a million dollars on this thing
zvekl@reddit
If I had Ferraris but wanted to feel eco friendly or whatever my only choice is to degrade myself to a plebeian Tesla?? Hell no! /s
Quaiche@reddit
Strong interest in how not Ferrari it looks like.
kenvsryu@reddit
The 849 looks better now that the luce is around.
V48runner@reddit
Take a look around you man, lots of people love dull crossovers with silly interior gimmicks.
DodgerDecoy5@reddit
Italians are always in denial of failure.
r23dom@reddit
What else can he say?
lifegoeson2702@reddit
All apologies
JForce1@reddit
It’s not for us. It’s for a completely different market segment. The people who like cars aren’t interested, just like the people who like techie fashion statements aren’t interested in an 812 Superfast.
Lorax91@reddit
If I was going to blow $600K+ on a car, I would want to feel like it was turning heads as I drive around. The Luce doesn't look like it will turn heads.
JForce1@reddit
It will in the places the kind of people who it’s for will be driving it. If you pull into a spot outside Meta or Palantir or OpenAI, heads will turn.
It’s like the Cybertruck. Everyone looks. It’s just most of us shake our heads in disgust, whilst the 25% who’d want one start drooling.
Lorax91@reddit
The Cybertruck is a better head-turner than the Luce. The only reason anyone would even notice the latter is because it has a Ferrari logo on it. That's a design failure.
The_Flying_Sausage@reddit
Everyone looks at the Cybertruck because it stands out on the roads. The Luce looks like a Honda—it’s going to blend in on the roads.
TopoChico-TwistOLime@reddit
I like the Luce 🤷♂️
kon---@reddit
All four of them.
Dorkenstein666@reddit
Yeah, I mean what else is he supposed to say?
JuggerKnot86@reddit
To the ex-GM CEO now head of Ferrari - you made a team great at making a Lancia and it did make a great Lancia...buuuy its not a great Ferrari
Euler007@reddit
If he sells them he was right. The opinion of the people that can't buy it is irrelevant.
theandylaurel@reddit
“I don’t sell cars. I sell engines. The cars I throw in for free.” - Enzo Ferrari
Tballz9@reddit
Not from anyone that I know, but sure, I guess so. I have zero interest in such a vehicle.
Marco_lini@reddit
He’s not wrong, the customer interest is strong. There is this one Jony guy from England liking it.
JohnnySack999@reddit
Strong repulsion
Hnl2Nrt2025@reddit
What else is going to say.?