Airplanes should carry a bucket of sand to extinguish lithium battery fires
Posted by flopsyplum@reddit | CrazyIdeas | View on Reddit | 35 comments
Posted by flopsyplum@reddit | CrazyIdeas | View on Reddit | 35 comments
Jmauld@reddit
Or provide reliable charging ports and then I wouldn’t have to bring a battery pack.
decker_42@reddit
Or, change your phone before you get on the plane and bring a book for the flight?
Jesus christ, you're a hairless monkey who's flying through the air at hundreds of miles per hour - take some responsibility for your own shit.
antonio16309@reddit
I think most people would like to be able to use their phone on the airplane and still have some charge to use it after they get to their destination. And there's a ton of stuff that you have to use your phone to do both before and after the flight. So it's not just that everyone but you is an idiot; there's a good reason to want to charge your phone on the plane.
decker_42@reddit
Ah, just to be clear, at no point did I state that everyone is an idiot.
My sin is being quick to judge, and after one comment I have, however, formed an opinion of your good self, sir.
antonio16309@reddit
You're clearly well qualified to do so.
Have a nice day!
decker_42@reddit
Yes, I have known many idiots.
Jmauld@reddit
People of like minds typically find each other
Jmauld@reddit
I work on the plane, which affords me for family tie when I’m not stuck in a 2’ x 3’ prison cell.
You do you.
Colonol-Panic@reddit
As opposed to the lithium fire extinguishing products they already carry?
flopsyplum@reddit (OP)
What are these “lithium fire extinguishing” products?
antonio16309@reddit
Damn, OP really thought they were the first to think of this, before the ENTIRE airline industry.
Colonol-Panic@reddit
Halon 1211s, thermal containment burn bags, AVDs, F-500 Encapsulating units, fire blankets, etc…
No_Tennis_4528@reddit
Certainly sounds cheeper. I bet Boeing could engineer a supperior sand bucket, however.
Technogamism@reddit
Nasa can design a sand bucket for $3 Billion!
BaitmasterG@reddit
A Boeing bucket would be good, the sides would fall off delivering the sand quickly to the heart of the fire
Unless they designed it to, in which case the mechanism would stick
GaryTurbo@reddit
I always fill my pockets with sand when going on a flight just in case.
Technogamism@reddit
I think it would be more practical to just have small openings along the floor so any burning object could be kicked out. Similar to ships having openings so water that flush onto the deck can runoff back into the ocean.
jason-murawski@reddit
The plane is pressurized. You can't have holes in it if you also want to breathe
reddituseronebillion@reddit
Airlock might do the trick, doesn't have to complicated.
jason-murawski@reddit
And if that fails? Now you have a lithium fire in a potentially inaccessible void space that's threatening the pressure vessel. The current solution is tbe safest option
reddituseronebillion@reddit
What is the current solution? I actually have no idea.
jason-murawski@reddit
They have different ways of containing a fire. Fireproof bags and certain chemicals to put the fire out mainly
reddituseronebillion@reddit
Well if those actually work, then yah, way better option.
Proton_Energy_Pill@reddit
I never had that problem in any of my flights but I decided that the steward nearest the battery should put on the oven gloves and throw it into the oven. Should be fairly safe there. Or a container of water if that works better.
Fornicatinzebra@reddit
Water makes lithium explode violently, never use water for a lithium fire
Disastrous-Wall-6943@reddit
They've got special gloves and a containment bag just for this occasion.
Easier and cheaper to replace than an oven.
Proton_Energy_Pill@reddit
Thanks - I haven't flown an airliner for over 15 years now, it makes sense that they've got the gear to handle such fires these days.
Disastrous-Wall-6943@reddit
No worries man.
These are the ones we use at my airline. They are sized for up to laptop kind of devices.
Put the device in it, toss in a couple liters of water and let it work itself out. Top up with water as needed. I haven't got to actually use one yet but the rep we had demonstrated it and they worked really well.
S14Ryan@reddit
Oy, throwing a flaming lithium battery in a bucket of water will make it explode. The flame is from the reaction of lithium with water vapour in the air.
BextoMooseYT@reddit
too heavy. plane would crash
xoxopeachii@reddit
Not even a debate, just an instant aviation physics shutdown.
reddituseronebillion@reddit
Plane is flying along normal. Battery fire starts. Some jack ass pulls out a bucket of pocket sand like a cartoon character and BAM plane plummet straight down.
Plesuu@reddit
How big is your bucket exactly
cfk77@reddit
Well big enough to crash the plane clearly
allenrfe@reddit
There is fire proof bag they can put thr battery in, the issue is that it is hard to do.