Microslop 365 Admin Centre - Crashout
Posted by Zichee@reddit | sysadmin | View on Reddit | 27 comments
Microsoft 365 is genuinely one of the most broken admin experiences I’ve ever used.
I added 1 new employee to our business tenant today. They were already on a basic Microsoft subscription, and I upgraded them to a Standard license.
During checkout, Microsoft only allowed me to buy 4 licenses instead of 1. It said I could reduce the number later, so I thought fine, whatever, I’ll just remove the extras after.
Purchase goes through.
I assign the single license I actually need.
Then I try to remove the extra 3.
It lets me remove ONE.
Now the other 2 are apparently impossible to remove because Microsoft claims the subscription “started more than 7 days ago” so it can’t be reduced anymore… while the SAME PAGE says the subscription started 1 hour ago.
The buttons on the licensing page either:
- do nothing
- endlessly load
- error out
- or redirect you in circles
Pages take 10+ seconds to load despite a fast connection.
Support is completely unusable:
- Phone support is an AI bot
- AI bot tells you to use the support page
- Support page tells you to use the AI bot
- Trying to open a ticket says I need to PAY Microsoft support to fix THEIR broken licensing system
So now Microsoft expects me to pay $50 per month until JANUARY 2027 for licenses I never wanted, never selected, and actively tried to remove immediately after purchase.
How is this acceptable from a trillion-dollar company?
Has anyone else dealt with this? Is there an actual way to get a human at Microsoft to fix broken licensing/subscription issues?
OregonTechHead@reddit
After 15 some years, I've never once seen anything like this, nor does a quantity of 4 make any sense at all.
There's something going on with your account.
But really, find a VAR. It'll save you so many headaches.
teriaavibes@reddit
On the left, go to Support, Help & Support, window pops up, turn support assistant off, type your problem into the textbox, wait for it to load and then on the bottom, click the blue Contact support button, from there it should be straightforward.
Next time find a partner to deal with this for you, you will save yourself a lot of energy.
Ferretau@reddit
Next step will be to provide a credit card for the support
teriaavibes@reddit
Unless I have some special type of Microsoft tenant, next step is choosing between email and phone support.
Ferretau@reddit
You have probably included support in the purchase price. Most tenants don't include support.
OregonTechHead@reddit
That's not true. All M365 licenses include support.
Why do people keep posting stuff like this?
teriaavibes@reddit
No I definitely don't lmao, my tenant has 2 Business Standard licenses for my personal use.
Zichee@reddit (OP)
You're an absolute legend, they make that so hard to find!
teriaavibes@reddit
Yea basically every idiot opens up a ticket instead of reading the documentation so Microsoft is making it harder and harder to actually open the ticket and get actual help if you need support.
Hopefully it won't be too hard to get this resolved, they can be difficult sometimes.
Master-IT-All@reddit
Honestly it sounds like you were maybe over-committed on Standard licensing and it forced you to buy enough to cover the gap plus the user.
This is why I don't let my customers buy direct. It's very confusing to have subscriptions starting on different dates. Sure that means they're on a yearly lock in subscription, but this thing has never happened to me.
Fallingdamage@reddit
Sad that MS cant offer coterm contracts to keep everything renewing at the same time.
Master-IT-All@reddit
They do, when you are setup for yearly commitment.
When we add a license to a customer it prorates the yearly so that the cost is only partial for the year and renewal lands on the same date as other licenses of the same type.
Valdaraak@reddit
This is the same company that can't get the navigation sidebar on their admin pages to be alphabetical. That's UI/UX design 101. I have to hunt and peck every time I need to find a particular sub menu. I've resorted to just ctrl+f to find it.
whoamiwhatsmyname@reddit
MS ScavengerHunt
margaritapracatan@reddit
Yeah it’s a good thing everything takes 8 hours to apply, it literally takes me 8 hours to find any feature.
TheRogueMoose@reddit
This is the same company where EVERYWHERE ctrl+f is search... Except in Outlook?
progenyofeniac@reddit
DO NOT GET ME STARTED ON THIS 🤬
Small_Editor_3693@reddit
In monitoring in Intune, the data column was sorted alphabetically for the longest time until they just built a new report page
FriendToPredators@reddit
This sounds like the ms devs are doing some malicious compliance with being told to use ai. Not that ms has ever been ux rational
Fallingdamage@reddit
I dont think it was malicious, I think thats about as good as the talent working there. People so inept and so apathetic about their work they just dont care.
elasticstylus579@reddit
The licensing UI in 365 is incredibly frustrating, and your situation sounds like a classic case of the system working against you rather than with you. That said, your best move here is to reach out to a Microsoft partner or reseller instead of trying to fight this directly with support. They have actual leverage with Microsoft and can usually get these kinds of licensing mistakes corrected without the runaround you are experiencing. Worth a call before you resign yourself to paying for those phantom licenses until 2027.
Here4Popcornz@reddit
I dread to think what kinda hell I'm in for when we never migrated our main business emails to tenants... It will be... Bad, once we finally do... Some people have the email somehow connected to some services and some don't...
Currently not even the outlook security labeling works on the client, it only works on the web interface...
Zichee@reddit (OP)
Been there, the move over was not seamless to say the least.
Vodor1@reddit
Experiences seem to be varied. I have had issues with it when using Firefox, but Edge it seems to work as expected.
I actually quite like it now, but as with everything you’ve got to use it regularly to get used to how it operates.
TheDevauto@reddit
I remember working as a unix engineer in the 90s and feeling pity for the new mcse's runnin around the data center rebooting blue screens all day long.
Seems ms never did figure out how to do things right.
Ferretau@reddit
Well they're poor execs need the money as Copilot ain't going that great.
dmuppet@reddit
No, generally it's a straight forward process, and even when I've made a mistake I have 7 days to fix it. That said, as MSP we do the majority of our licensing through a 3rd party reseller (TD Synnex). In cases like this they would work to resolve it with Microsoft, we rarely contact Microsoft directly.