Why is there no company that will lend a tenner?
Posted by Able-Explanation7835@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 147 comments
How many times have you been in a position where you just need a tenner till the end of the week?
So, why doesn't a company offer this, but at a reasonable rate rather than the old ridiculous interest?
They proved popular, but were taken off because they got greedy.
So surely a company could risk a small percentage of non payments, especially if they restricted it to just a tenner. Plus reasonable admin fee, and paid off in 2 months.
So, I know I am oversimplifying it, but it made me wonder.
My reason it would be successful is that for such a small amount in reality, it would dig people out of a bind. A one off, no more until paid off. They could charge £5 all in, and paid back @£7.50 a month. Again, oversimplifying... But if you are in need of a tenner, just a tenner, that's the difference between heating or eating for a lot of people.
Thoughts?
WillWatsof@reddit
Because capitalism works on exploiting the poor.
cable-wrangler@reddit
That is not why this is not offered. It’s because you wouldn’t make any money from it, so why would it be worthwhile?
WillWatsof@reddit
Payday loan companies make money off of the people who take out the loans in desperation and then can't afford to pay back in the allotted period, therefore incurring extortionate fees.
cable-wrangler@reddit
Payday loans AS THEY EXISTED took advantage of the lack of regulation in the area which has since been massively improved, which is why you see a lot less of them.
The reason Payday loans are worthwhile and lending £10 at reasonable rates is NOT is because of what you've said. They're extremely high interest rate and have arrears fees - meaning those who pay back heavily offset those who do not.
This would not happen with £10 loans at reasonable rates, you'd LOSE money servicing them.
This is basic common sense and has absolutely nothing to do with 'muh capitalism'.
WillWatsof@reddit
You’re literally describing why it has everything to do with capitalism: they don’t exist because it would be far harder to exploit the poor.
cable-wrangler@reddit
Nope, you're just going off the deep end for no reason.
Would you also argue a shop deciding NOT to sell oranges because they'd lose money selling them is doing it 'because they cant exploit the poor'? Surely not.
No, it's pretty reasonable to not offer a service that's going to cost YOU money to provide it.
WillWatsof@reddit
Short term loans do exist though. Their existence is only viable under terms which are exploitative.
This is the answer to the original question of why no reasonable rate ones exist. Because they can’t exist if they’re not exploiting the poor.
Beautiful_Hawk548@reddit
I mean, lots and lots and lots of reasons if you think about it for more than a few seconds tbh. I'm not even particularly financially minded but these fell into my mind instantly.
The smaller the amount of money someone needs to borrow, typically the more desperate a less likely they are to pay it back. If you're struggling to come up with £10 then I have little trust you'll be able to pay it back.
Lower monetary value makes people feel like they can get away with not paying back.
If you lend someone £10 and charged £15 like you said, where do I make my money? It's not the £5 because it costs me £8 an hour for someone to be doing the job of processing the loan, never mind the wages I'd have to pay to collections staff, property purchasing or rent, business rates, energy, my own wage, tax etc etc etc.
To lend you a tenner and make profit, I probably either need to do basically no other business and be happy earning a fiver a week for a lot of hassle (I'd starve) or I need to charge you about £50 for that £10. Who's going to take a deal at 500% interest? (I'd go out of business)
Able-Explanation7835@reddit (OP)
If it was run as a service by a charity, similar to food parcels, but with a gentleman's agreement to pay it back, it could be targeted at people who need it most. They check your finances when applying for some food parcels at the CAB, so that service could be offered on top. Obviously there will be people who abuse the system, but the vast majority wouldn't. They would appreciate the service, knowing there is a possible safety net for a few days. Thereby, they don't abuse it because it would preclude them in the future.
Beautiful_Hawk548@reddit
but the charity would be out of business in a week? Charities are still business' they don't just pump all the money they receive straight back out into their causes. They have operating costs.
The numbers and profit are too small to cover operating costs. Credit/Financial checks would be all but useless for people who need to borrow that small of money because if they had good credit/previous finances they wouldn't be in that situation. You're also just adding another costs onto the business.
QVRedit@reddit
Typically a bank overdraft might cover this territory.
Beautiful_Hawk548@reddit
Yeah precisely. Idk why OP thinks they've come up with a winning idea here, there's just so many holes and there are plenty of other solutions available.
Able-Explanation7835@reddit (OP)
Not everyone has an overdraft facility.
cable-wrangler@reddit
If you cant even get your bank to give you an overdraft then you've no hope whatsoever of securing finance.
Do you know how much a credit check costs? Or the costs of running the systems to run the credit checks and approve people? And KYC? And conforming with all the regulators reporting requirements?
It wouldn't be financially viable whatsoever to offer loans of £10.
mizzmi@reddit
Are you a tenner short on your 3.5 by any chance😂
Able-Explanation7835@reddit (OP)
😂😂 You got me! My dealer says a tenner or a reach around. Unfortunately, looks like the last of my butter ain't going on toast!
But in all seriousness, I think a company would not work but maybe instead this could work as a service, like a food parcel. Not for profit and to select few referred by CAB
Hell, Motability is a service that is paid for by people's benefits, and they make MASSIVE profits. It's also owned by banks in France I believe...
mizzmi@reddit
I looked at your profile history and it’s clear to me that you don’t qualify for most grants like this. Unfortunately there’s only so much help you can get before you start to help yourself by budgeting better.
Able-Explanation7835@reddit (OP)
Alright, Dahmer! Getting a lil bit of a stalker vibe there...
baadhumans@reddit
if you just need a tenner then you probably need to be managing your finances better. Also I wouldn't lend money to someone who "just needs a tenner" because it's obvious to me that person can't manage their finances
cable-wrangler@reddit
Obviously this isn't viable, how on earth would it be worthwhile for the lender? No wonder you're struggling for a tenner every month!
DECKTHEBALLZ@reddit
Credit Unions..
HellPigeon1912@reddit
Someone who's financial situation means they can't even spare £10 for unavoidable necessaries is very likely to also be someone who struggles to pay back what they owe. Without the reward of high interest rates, it isn't worth the risk
Sea-Factor4603@reddit
This is not true. Whilst not in this situation now, I have been.
I'm in a good job, but only my wage was coming in, no real debt and I also manage my money pretty well. However, sometimes at the end of the month you truly do just need a tenner to get you through.
prince_vorkken@reddit
Maybe you don't manage you money as well as you think you do if you're scrounging for a tenner.
GoodNewsSpreader@reddit
Unnecessary use of the word ‘scrounging.’ Wonder if you’re kinder in person?
Bigassbird@reddit
It’s the literal meaning of the word. Scrounging means obtaining or gathering something—usually food, money, or resources—with difficulty. You’re the person who is attributing malintent to its use.
GoodNewsSpreader@reddit
Asked AI and looks like you’re wrong. Accusing someone of "scrounging" for a tenner ((£10)) is generally considered derogatory and mildly offensive. While it may sometimes be used as lighthearted banter among close friends, in most contexts, it carries a negative connotation.Here is a quick breakdown of why:The meaning: "Scrounging" implies trying to obtain something (especially money or food) for free or at another person's expense, often by imposing on them or being persistently evasive about paying your own way.The implication: Using this term suggests the person is cheap, financially irresponsible, or habitually mooching off others.The amount: The fact that it is for a small amount of money ((£10)) makes the accusation sting a bit more, as it implies the person is struggling or grasping for something trivial.
Bigassbird@reddit
I find someone addressing me saying “I asked AI and it looks like you’re wrong” far more offensive than using the dictionary definition of a word to describe an act.
Have a lovely day.
GoodNewsSpreader@reddit
I find a sixty year old Harry Styles fan offensive. We’re all different.
Bigassbird@reddit
Should have spent longer going through my comments. You have my age wrong.
GoodNewsSpreader@reddit
I’d have died of boredom any longer
tvthrowaway366@reddit
Very ironic that your first comment signs off “wonder if you’re kinder in person” and your last two are you desperately trying to get a rise out of someone over a totally semantic argument.
Take the L and get on with your day.
Bigassbird@reddit
I’ve just realised that the Redditor you’re replying to must have blocked me because I can no longer see any comments by them, just yours. Some people get so worked up over so little.
Silent-Tea4500@reddit
Nobody care's what AI thinks, I can make it tell me to eat glue if i tried
They gave the literal dictionary definition and that was your response? I can't believe you thought that would go down well
ContactSpecial8612@reddit
Ah yes you asked AI a question, framing it in a way to benefit your position. Insufferable person.
NecronomiconUK@reddit
What's wrong with using the word 'scrounging' in this context?
Bigassbird@reddit
Nothing. Some people seem to think it’s derogatory.
RoughVirtual1626@reddit
This is why overdrafts exist. If your bank wants allow one then lenders will be skeptical
Milam1996@reddit
You can’t manage your money well if you’re on a good wage but also don’t have a pot to piss in come end of the month. Theyre oxymoronic statements
OrganicPoet1823@reddit
I’d suggest you are more unusual than the classic customer for this product
HellPigeon1912@reddit
And people who are wonderful drivers get charged higher insurance premiums because they share an age/car/location with people who get in a lot of accidents.
It doesn't matter what you're like as an individual, companies will decide who to lend to based on statistics
If you're unable to cover a £10 expense, lending companies will decide that statistically you're not a smart investment
cable-wrangler@reddit
It is true because the data backs up those trends massively.
And not being funny, but you really do not manage your money as well as you think you do if you’re in need of a tenner to get you to the end of the month - either that or you’re actually struggling because you don’t have enough money, in which case it would be irresponsible to lend to you anyway.
ContactSpecial8612@reddit
That’s why they said very likely, pal.
TroublesZoo@reddit
People tend to use family/friends for this.
travelingwhilestupid@reddit
In the UK? Awkward!
Odd_Scar836@reddit
What? Why would it be awkward to ask a mate or family for a tenner until pay day?
If you don’t have that level of relationship with family and friends I feel sorry for you
Silent-Tea4500@reddit
I mean asking a friend of family for a tenner definitely implies you are literally scraping by, and a lot of people are uncomfortable with admitting defeat per se
I have no doubt my friends would lend me a tenner in a heartbeat, i'd do the same for them. But I would personally find it awkward to ask
travelingwhilestupid@reddit
Where in the UK are you from?
VerbingNoun413@reddit
Pawn shops do this (with the caveat that you hand over the collateral)
Boboshady@reddit
If there was a legal way to make it profitable, it would exist. If it doesn't, it either isn't legal, or it's not profitable (or both).
When it comes to extending credit to people, this is a well-walked path, and there would absolutely be this kind of service if it were possible.
Note, this isn't to say it wouldn't have customers...just that there's no way to make money off them...legally, anyway.
Able-Explanation7835@reddit (OP)
Agreed. I edited my post, because maybe this could be more of a service like a food bank. So, no profit, just admin charges. Maybe a small amount to keep covering neglegent payers, but people would likely be so grateful for such a service, I would expect returns to be very high.
Boboshady@reddit
The main problem would be one of scale. As a general rule, and ignoring things like defaults for a second, it takes the same amount of effort to service a small loan as it does a big one - same systems, same people etc. Obviously there's economies of scale, but even if you run such services at cost, those costs are high.
And because the initial loan would be so small, the amount of 'fair' interest on it would be tiny. It simply wouldn't cover itself.
Then you add in what would be undoubtedly a higher than average instance of defaulting, the costs go up even more.
Then you factor in the realities of any kind of emergency lending - that people typically borrow without the means to pay it back without borrowing again - and you're still creating problems at any amount.
There are better ways to deal with the problem, handing out money in any amount is usually not the answer, and especially not if it needs to be repaid, with an amount of interest that covers the costs of delivering the service, even if it's a non-profit.
Also worth mentioning that I've seen many 'hardship funds' over the years, from local businesses who will actually hand out small cash amounts for people who need it. I don't know if they're still a thing, or were a consequence of the last decade when 'being charitable' was a high-vis way to gain popularity.
Thin_Pin2863@reddit
Sounds like an overdraft.
travelingwhilestupid@reddit
Which the bank will charge you forty quid for.
CymruKimura@reddit
Mine is like 30% EAR which is charged at a daily rate. So £10 borrowed for a week is probably less than 10 pence total cost to me…
In fact, I did a quick calculator on my banking app to see and I could borrow £5k for a week and be charged £25 interest. So a long way off £40 isn’t it ?
travelingwhilestupid@reddit
Mine starts with a fixed fee.
NecronomiconUK@reddit
Depends on the bank, vanilla HSBC current account is £25 interest free.
LetsAdultTogether@reddit
Are grown adults that poor that they are actually needing to burrow a tenner???
At that point,sort an arranged overdraft.
Or keep an emergency fund of a few £100s.thays foregoing a few takeaways, a few weeks of smoking or less trips to the pub. Then nobody needs to try bum a tenner of people
Able-Explanation7835@reddit (OP)
If you have no idea on life as an adult... Well... Your suffering will be legendary... Even in hell!
escoces@reddit
Adults in the UK with kids have to get food from food banks to help feed them millions of times per year in the UK.
geese_moe_howard@reddit
Mate...I have such sights to show you.
I was brought up in one of the most deprived towns in England and I've heard people argue over borrowing 20p.
I also worked in a Jobcentre for seven years and there are plenty of people out there living day-to-day.
lovemycat02@reddit
Never been in this specific situation but if you need a tenner do you not have mates?
LewisMileyCyrus@reddit
they also need tenners but OP is just warming us up
Able-Explanation7835@reddit (OP)
Well. I was gonna introduce a new protein drink actually. And offer you an investment for..... £10?
I do wish I had never been in this position. But life often doesn't take prisoners, and often the money in doesn't cover all the money out.
xcixjames@reddit
I'll send you a tenner now if you give me £15 by next Friday
Happy?
Own_Shoulder_5785@reddit
Can you ask for it back in a ladies voice please?
xcixjames@reddit
Yes but only an Eastern European ladies voice
mattcannon2@reddit
Isn't this why an Overdraft exists and exactly what it does?
SteamerTheBeemer@reddit
Overdrafts are seriously expensive for interest. They didn’t use to be but after the banks got told they couldn’t charge stupid fees, they just raised their interest rates to above credit card rates to make up for it.
Unless somethings changed in the past few years but that’s how it used to be.
RoughVirtual1626@reddit
Yeah if you don't pay it back over the year. If you use it for a tenner till the end of the month it will be negligible compared to a mini pay day loan scenario
SHalls17@reddit
I think this also depends on if it’s arranged or unarranged right?
SteamerTheBeemer@reddit
Unarranged doesn’t exist anymore as they’re not able to charge fees for it.
So yeah it’s arranged, I think it used to be about 40% interest rate last I remember checking.
mattcannon2@reddit
So would borrowing £10 with £5-£7 interest as OP suggests.
SteamerTheBeemer@reddit
Yeah but I guess I’m just agreeing with the other reply that credit cards are actually cheaper on rates and also you don’t have to pay for a month.
Embarrassed_Park2212@reddit
I wouldn't use an overdraft unless it was a life or death situation. The interest alone would be ridiculous, unless you are fortunate to have a 0% one. A credit card would be simpler.
TastyBerny@reddit
Hasn’t legislation now limited them to a reasonable rate?
mattcannon2@reddit
I think mine is something like 40% APR over £25. However the first £25 is interest free.
Way higher than credit cards which are around 22%.
mattcannon2@reddit
100% agree, just addressing OPs question.
PoshTurtl3@reddit
Credit cards are better for this cause they won't charge you till next month.
Puzzled-Job9556@reddit
If someone needs £10 to get them to payday, I wouldn't recommend they take out a credit card.
Beautiful-Purple-536@reddit
Yeah, this is it. An overdraft is the amount of credit the bank is willing to give you without going through a formal loan process.
Usually it's just a box you tick when you open your account then it's there whenever you need it.
ApplicationSouth8844@reddit
The admin alone would cost more than a fiver.
cizza16@reddit
Have you not just described payday loans?
The reason interest is high is obvious
Able-Explanation7835@reddit (OP)
That's what I mean, stay away from predatory lending with sky high interest. If you lent at 0% but charge an administration fee that includes a small percentage as profit, something like that could be possible. Only to certain people. Infact, a government program would work like that. If on UC you can apply for a minimum of 100 quid budgeting loan. Then it is paid off over several months or years at a small amount. But until that is paid off no more budgeting loans. And if a person is short a tenner for electric/gas/2 days of food, then it could be manageable. A food bank or something like that could administrate it. Then, charge a small admin fee to cover costs, a fiver for example.
solpadeineOD@reddit
Fortunately I have a good boss who has done that for me a couple of times and never asked for it back nor expected it.
Master-Trick2850@reddit
if a person "only" needs a tenner then they would use a credit card
if they need a loan for that tenner, theyre going to be incredibly high risk
Material_Break3593@reddit
Someone who needs to lend 10 pounds from a business means there is nobody in their life willing to lend them a tenner. Would you say that population are likely to pay a tenner back?
Milam1996@reddit
Because it’s not worth it. “They got pulled cause they got greedy” no they got banned because it creates a debt trap. The only way to profitably loan money to people who are so broke/low income/bad with money that they need to loan a tenner is to charge an insane interest rate. Youre lending to people horrendous with money/broke so theyre probably not going to pay it back and now the 6000% apr kicks in.
PleasantCucumber2615@reddit
The time and effort required to loan you a tenner will probably cost them more than a tenner.
OrganicPoet1823@reddit
This! Someone needs to approve it, run a credit check and transfer it plus transfer fees. Absolutely not worth it
DavidBmw1986@reddit
You borrow me £5 first and I’ll transfer you £15 so you have the £10 you need. Just need to make you’re legit. I’m totally not a Nigerian scammer.
Locorio@reddit
I wouldn’t hire someone that needs a loan of a 10er
srogijogi@reddit
£10 is the cost of employment for about 30min of one person on National Minimum Wage. Think about that. And yeah, you are really oversimplifying. There are companies which do £10. Banks.
Mysterious_Research2@reddit
You can get similar sorts of things from Credit Unions, and the fees are not usually anywhere near as bad as the payday lenders used to be. I used to work for Royal mail so was able to join the Commsave Credit union which has opened up its membership to more companies in the past 10 years or so. See https://www.commsave.co.uk/our-values for details.
If you are not eligible to join Commsave use this site to find a credit union that you may be able to join: https://www.findyourcreditunion.co.uk/
FlatHoperator@reddit
Bro would have loved wonga
phatboi23@reddit
wonga would have loved bro.
they were absolute fuckers.
RoyalCultural@reddit
That's called an overdraft
Defiant-One-5967@reddit
Because most people ask their pals if they need a tenner
OrganicPoet1823@reddit
How many times have I been in need of just a £10 I can confidently say never.
The market would be small, if someone is that hard up the risk of non payment is high. Given the low amount of lending the profit and margin would be tiny and no company could survive on it.
MrMonkeyman79@reddit
There's no financial incentive to do this.
The administrative costs for lending one person £1,000 are considerably less than lending 100 people £10 so the cost of accessing that £10 as a proportion of the loan needs to be comsuderanly higher.
ContactSpecial8612@reddit
Potentially one of the dumbest questions I have seen here
hrcrss12@reddit
What do you think a credit card is for?
TheLadyHelena@reddit
This is exactly why I want to either win a huge sum on the Euromillions, or somehow become a highwayman (highwaywoman!) and take from the rich, to give to the poor.
My registered charity 'Lend Me £20' would allow people to claim a small gift (probably up to a couple of hundred pounds) to tide them over in a time of need, with no actual obligation to repay, although we would happily accept repayments and/or donations so we could fund helping others.
I would scroll crowdfunder websites and donate money to worthy causes e.g. medical equipment needs, financial hardship etc.
I'd love to have a way of becoming obscenely rich so I could give almost all of it away.
NecronomiconUK@reddit
This is literally an overdraft. Many banks give interest free overdrafts up to a small amount (£25). Above that you're looking at about 40% interest.
bydevilz1@reddit
The costs of that alone would mean they would lose money , but you also know you can take out a £50-£100 loan and just pay back £90 right away right?
Wait-Whos-Joe@reddit
If u need a tenner, would it not be easier to use something like monzo flex and pay it back in 3 interest free installments
redunculuspanda@reddit
I know it’s not open to everyone, but you just described an overdraft
BillyJoeDubuluw@reddit
In today’s cost of living “a tenner” is almost like the up to date equivalent of asking to borrow a quid for the phone box… Both parties know full well that quid is not likely to be seen ever again…
On top of this, most of the commodities that £10 actually buys can be quite easily accessed from a wide variety of foodbanks and community outreach projects when we’re being really honest…
For clarity, I have previously needed to access food parcels and such… The gateway to service access is really quite a minimal effort…
Genuinely getting in a pickle over the sum of £10 is not a particularly necessary dilemma.
GlancingGlow@reddit
Prepayment energy meters have an emergency credit feature that is similar to what you describe.
geese_moe_howard@reddit
The smallest loans I've seen are for £100 and with as little as 80% APR. That's not bad considering I've also seen 1400% APR.
Radiant_Fondant_4097@reddit
The kind of person who is so hard up for £10 is probably the most unable to actually pay back money they've been loaned.
FireWhiskey5000@reddit
It makes no financial sense. Even if it’s fully online you’ve still got the costs of processing each request that you need to get back somehow.
Then you’ve got the costs of reclaiming money from those who don’t pay back. “Only” being a tenner means there’s little incentive for a lot of people to pay back, and the legal costs of pursuing them will cost way more than £10.
rockdecasba@reddit
Monzo do. You can also get a credit card with small limit. Things like zilch. You can klarna a shop from Uber eats. They don't do it because there's other systems in place for essentials and such
creepinghippo@reddit
Banks do it. They call it overdraft.
Spadders87@reddit
There is payday lenders still about, theyre usually more than a minimum of £10 though, typically £50-100+.
Interest and fees are capped at 0.8% per day of the original amount which means the £5 charge youre suggesting for borrowing £10 could be in breach of FCA regulations.
Recovery on a defaulted £10 debt would be considerably expensive compared to the loaned amount.
In simple terms, its just not financially worth it for anyone to do it for the small return and the risk assosciated.
shitthrower@reddit
What you're describing is a payday loan, they wont do £10 (probably the admin cost is too low to be worth while), but you can get a £100 loan. The issue is that they are predatory, with very high interest rates (paying back £15 over 2 months is equivalent to around 1000% APR), and if you miss payments, the fees rack up.
They also tend to get people into a debt cycle, if you're struggling for £10 at the end of the month, so you go to a payday loan lender, there is a good chance that you'll struggle to pay back the loan at the end, and you'll roll the loan over, getting into even more debt.
If you're in that situation, there are alternatives... if you're on a PAYG electric meter, you can usually get emergency credit by pushing a few buttons on the meter. If you're struggling with food, there are food banks available.
pjberlov@reddit
All sorts of reasons why this isn’t worth it from a private lender’s POV that others have already mentioned, but also on principle, it really isn’t worth the hassle getting into debt with a private lender over a tenner.
If you think that it is, then you either need to manage your money better or learn how debt actually works (or both).
Jesisawesome@reddit
There are sites on reddit which perform this function I hear - for example r/BorrowNew
cari-strat@reddit
A guy in our area actually did this, going back quite a few years now. Small loans, small interest. No idea how legal it was but it worked fine. The borrowers tended to be people with poor credit and from low income backgrounds so their friends were equally poor. They'd borrow £20 or £50, sometimes up to a couple of hundred, and he was pretty chill about repayments, if they missed the odd one. They knew not to abuse it because that would be the end of the lending. I suspect these services still exist if you know where to look but they are likely unlicensed/illegal and therefore exist by word of mouth.
Dry-Letterhead-2902@reddit
Have you ever heard of a credit card 🙏
Dry-Letterhead-2902@reddit
Thats what an overdraft is
Feeling-Bluebird8413@reddit
For the same reason as to why as a trades person, I wouldn’t do a job for a tenner: it’s not worth the time, admin or return.
barejokez@reddit
Surely a credit card meets this definition?
split-tennisball@reddit
Haven't you just described a payday loans company?
mentm0@reddit
It’s called an overdraft
Glittering_Box4815@reddit
Because the amount of paperwork (Fro a legal perspective) for next no interest makes it pointless.
Plus it would cost them thousands to chase you if you don't pay it back, so it would be based 100% on trust
Devify@reddit
That small amount being processed through a loans process as a one off loan would cost the bank more in time and effort than they would be able to get out of it.
However there are credit cards and overdrafts do exist which do allow you to borrow small amounts whenever you need them
SimplyFootballNet@reddit
But this does exist. Take your pick:
Credit card.
Overdraft.
Relative-Tea3944@reddit
What if I give you a tenner and then you promise that next time you have a tenner spare you give it to someone else that needs it.
M4niac81@reddit
This is exactly what a credit card is for really, very short term borrowing. When used responsibility credit cards are absolutely fine for this kinda thing, pay it straight back and it's interest free.
Easy-Equal@reddit
They used to but tge government banned them due to extortionate interest they charged.
You could always use a pawn shop they will take the item as collateral then give you time to buy it back
BusyBeeBridgette@reddit
Okay, so let's say 3 million people all ask for a tenner over night. Only 75% of them will actually pay it back. Keep ding that week in week out and the company will go bust with in a couple of months. That is partly why such things like Interest rates exist.
Fine_Cress_649@reddit
Isn't this what credit cards do?
Djinjja-Ninja@reddit
Because it's not worth their while, and its predatory lending just like Wonga.com and their ilk back in the day, this sort of stuff tends to snowball, you end up taking another loan out to pay off the first loan (from a different company).
If a company loads you £10, they're likely have to charge a £10-15 admin fee, plus interest, it would end up with an APR in multiple 1000s of %.
HashDefTrueFalse@reddit
How would such a company make any money? The larger the loan and the longer the term, the more profitable the loan. You're suggesting incredibly small loans, short terms, and small admin fees. The volume would need to be insane, which is also a problem. Who actually needs "just a tenner?" AND can't approach anyone but a for-profit business for it? I'll probably get shit for daring to suggest that we're not all poverty stricken on Reddit, but there's a very small number of people who need this. Most either are either doing fine, have family/friends they could approach for this, or need to borrow far more than tens of pounds.
Thekennelly@reddit
The real answer is the lack of ability to recover the funds from people who do not return
£10 is too little to be worth the hasstle of recovering, particulary from those who needed it in the first place
in a sense, there is a place you can borrow £10 - usually the overdraft feature on your bank / a credit card
banks are more capable of recovering those amounts, as usually you continue to bank with them rather than opening a new account with a different bank each time
Overall-Error4057@reddit
as in a 10er out of your own salary as an Advance, or from the company that you will repay?
I'm sure an advance out of your own salary will be possible since my mum does this a lot and I work in payroll and process a lot of advances for clients.
But a payment from the company, outside of payrolling, might be a little harder since their finance team, who may not know you if its a large group, will need to explain the amounts and why they are being repaid more than the amount being given, for audits.
If its just one employee maybe its possible, but they will have to apply the same for all other employees and then if they are dealing with many it can get messy and extra bookkeeping work
why-complicated@reddit
If the rate is 20%, until next pay day, on £10 it would only cost 15p, therefore not worth the admin cost.
nikhkin@reddit
There's not enough profit to be made in a £10 loan, especially from the sort of people who would need to borrow £10.
Someone who can't plan their finances well enough to need to borrow £10 and pay it back over two months (not even by the next pay day) isn't someone that companies would want to lend money to.
It would also be simpler to go £10 into overdraft on your current account.
In order to make small loans profitable, payday loan companies were charging APRs in the thousands.
Agitated_Parsnip_178@reddit
Overdraft?
Danimalomorph@reddit
You want them to charge a fiver on top for a tenner?
"They proved popular, but were taken off because they got greedy."
PortugueseBreakfast_@reddit
A previous employer did lend an employee a few grand, without interest. Perhaps it’s not normal but it does happen.
sindud@reddit
Because it's not worth their time. They are a business and would make practically nothing from this transaction. Bad business sense!
Yuji_Ide_Best@reddit
All sorts of admin & claims handling for how much exactly?
Nuthetes@reddit
Because it would get spoiled by a bunch of bozos who would see it as free cash, realizing the company wouldn't bother taking them to court over not paying a tenner.
luffy8519@reddit
People would have no real incentive to repay the tenner, and the cost of taking someone to court for £10 would be prohibitive for a company. So the risk would be too high, and they'd likely have to charge more than a flat £5 interest to cover operating costs and risk of non-payment.
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