Does this look like what Turks are dealing with?
Posted by vrizer@reddit | AskBalkans | View on Reddit | 148 comments
Posted by vrizer@reddit | AskBalkans | View on Reddit | 148 comments
anormalgeek@reddit
Ataturk rolling in his grave...
BananaDisastrous5893@reddit
BeansLoverr@reddit
same shit in serbia, but it's even worse cus president is comparable to hitler
Weissenburg_21@reddit
Can confirm
BeansLoverr@reddit
jes vala sranje u majci srbiji
Weissenburg_21@reddit
Brate ode nam zemlja u kurac
defketron@reddit
Ne lupetajte. Nije da je Vucic super al ‘uporediv sa Hitlerom’ je nesto sto samo na autisticnom redditu moze da pokupi goreglasove.
Weissenburg_21@reddit
Jedini razlog zašto Vučić nije kao Hitler je samo zašto što vlada malom zemljom koja nema jaku privredu
defketron@reddit
Nadam se da si jos u srednjoj skoli pa da ti se ove budalastine otpisu na mladost.
goklj@reddit
But now there is a solution: he will replace a population with chinese dancing robots, and voila! No man no problem!
Empty-Pace-4228@reddit
What does Vucic do? He can't be that oppressive.
sloopywettoppyswife@reddit
He uses our Mafia Groups called Kavac and Skaljari to stay in power, its really bizarre
They are literally named after villages here and
Weissenburg_21@reddit
He beats students in the streets, cooperates with Mafia bosses that killed who knows how many people, stole millions of EU money, has police officers that threatened to rape girls from protests, literally held people falsely imprisoned, fired countless public workers that supported protests ect. I'm not saying he's worse than Erdogan, but he's pretty bad.
dulbirakan@reddit
I would like to think that we were trend setting in Turkey. The rest of the world just realized how attractive oppressive strongmen are, after seeing our example. Trump is just like a bad knock-off. Putin and Russia was ahead of us a tiny bit, but I would say we perfected the formula.
treadbolt5@reddit
Every where, authoritarian corrupt assholes do the same thing. Come to power talking big game about how their silly ideas will improve things, they fail to improve things, make alliances with rich powerful asaholes to have a hold on institutional power so that they dont get deposed, spend the rest of their existence in a continuous struggle to remain on top to avoid corruption charges.
There is zero ideology. Just cycles of blaming someone else for their failures
Mammoth_Meet_1606@reddit
Not exactly most akp supporters have an unreasonable fear of CHP(biggest opposition party) because of the stuff that happened back in late 70's 80's and 90's back in that day Turkey was ruled by parliamentary government those days were terrible and most people was living in misery and CHP was one of the parties that was ruling the country all those years and most voters are afraid that if CHP won again they would turn the country just like those years...
AKP(Erdoğan's party) controls nearly all the tv channels and they are really good at manipulating their own voters in social media. So their voters believe everything they said to them by the government but they refuse to believe real dossiers and documents, videos and stuff. Thats why akp is still able to get 20-25 percent of the votes. Akp sucks at everything but not in propaganda and manipulating the masses.
dewpiece@reddit
this "built roads" is now the libtard argument of our country. Those who say this is our way of thinking and the only reason probably not literate enough to read the list of every innovation has been made these past 23 years.
Fun-Disaster9796@reddit
"All thing CHP doing is making Atatürk statues bro"
No-Heart3432@reddit
Exactly
i_am_someone_or_am_i@reddit
We always called turkey a dictatorship but it officially is one after the absolute nullity.
emo_boy_fucker@reddit
I do not get it is this awful or something
i_am_someone_or_am_i@reddit
Main opposition partys leader is unlawfully removed from power with a erdoğan puppet. What is not awful about that.
emo_boy_fucker@reddit
Turkiye number 1 corruption 💪💪🇹🇷🇹🇷
maproomzibz@reddit
i read it as "Absolute Bhutan" and got really confused.
No-Heart3432@reddit
Not after that. It was after 2017.
i_am_someone_or_am_i@reddit
That only gave him the power to slowly turn it into a dictatorship.
No-Heart3432@reddit
It was not slow actually. Remember the first presidential election after 2017. 2 opposition leaders assigned a candidate against Erdoğan. But we learned those 2 opposition leaders are Erdoğan's man in recent years. So we had an election and our options are either choose Erdoğan or Erdoğan. For the next one they rigged the elections yet nobody said anything. Latest one 6 opposition leaders stand against Erdoğan and we had one other candidate. That other candidate change his side to the Erdoğan. Those 6 leaders are currently working for Erdoğan. So we have an option either chose him or his men who works for him.
i_am_someone_or_am_i@reddit
Yeah but most learned about their true intentions after the elections. In a century we still can't teach people to not trust ülkücüs.
Difficult_Eye4244@reddit
Simmilar thing in serbia with pussy lips when you talk with his voters they always say he build roads ahhahaha
MazInG_GaMeR@reddit
I live in a family that supports the current president. And this is their exact response to people who hate the current administration.
ImPhynx@reddit
Erdoğan wins democratically every time because the opposition is just ass and can’t get shit done, yet people still call him a dictator.
Meanwhile Mustafa Kemal became president without any votes, ruled until his death, and his party ruled alone for years after him too but somehow that’s called “bringing democracy.”
It’s hypocritical.
Secular Turks only want democracy as long as it follows their own agenda and ideology. The moment the majority votes differently, democracy suddenly becomes a problem for them and the president becomes a dictator.
Final-Nebula-7049@reddit
yes, turkey is 35% sheep and we can't even export them for lamb chops.
mirror__magic@reddit
Ah yes not like main opposition party ruled by a spy for 15 years.
StayloAficionado@reddit
Exactly, their voter base is a good 35% rural area cro-magnon, 10% who benefits the party (covering a wide range of 'simple job' hunters in a state institution, to a handful of dollar millionares - billionares) and 5% swing vote that takes pre-election showmanship seriously. The elections were always driven by mathematics and policies are not the benefit of people in general.
treadbolt5@reddit
All my life, i have dealt with the misery of this guy and his party’s rule. I just want the nation to progress at this point.
StPauliPirate@reddit
Our best bet is that he dies. And with his death, the regime can‘t hold on to power without their loyal supporters. There is no AKP cult, there is a Erdogan cult. All it needs are riots. PLUS Imamoglu is quit popular, even among islamic-conservative Turks. Turks love these kind of people.
treadbolt5@reddit
Imamoglu is serious hope for me. I desperately want to improve our urbanism, march towards a modernized lifestyle for all, reduce the rich-poor economic divide. We have an economy with lots of power behind it, the country’s potential is incredible.
StPauliPirate@reddit
But you know what. That is definitely a controversial opinion. But I don‘t think we should return right back to a free democracy once the regime is gone. The democracy brought the Islamists upon us. Who knows 10 years later a new Erdogan will emerge. I‘m fine with a secular autocracy as the lesser evil. All this shit started in 1950 when the Kemalists allowed free elections.
ImPhynx@reddit
Crying because Erdoğan is allegedly a dictator while demanding a secular dictatorship themselves.
I see the hypocrisy.
StPauliPirate@reddit
I stand by it. Eat or get eaten. Democracy brought nothing but trouble for the Republic.
treadbolt5@reddit
We can handle democracy, i think. But we need push away from the presidential systems. We need stronger local governance. The top of the country should be a larger set of individuals. Not the weekly ramblings of 2-3 assholes
edwardthe3rd188@reddit
Islamists arent a minority and even in the army there are islamists unlike before so its not possible without the same political violence and islamist would get violent.
ImPhynx@reddit
What did imamoglu do please tell me some projects.
The opposition does nothing but have beef in their party. There was a guy in CHP messaging with a child for sex.
The opposition leader said Erdogan should stop testing weapons the fishes are scared
Olurea@reddit
Hello. I’m a religious Turk and İ prefer İmamoğlu a billion times more than Erdogan. Erdogan is a hypocrite who is destroying Turkey.
PomegranateOk2600@reddit
Usually the main figure dying doesnt mean an end to the regime. Watch Chavez Venezuela or Iran now.
treadbolt5@reddit
We are not in those guy’s positions yet. The AKP is not the Ayatollah and it doesn’t have the Venezuelan party’s level of control.
By contrast, the AKP is quite ramshackle
PomegranateOk2600@reddit
Let’s see then. I would like to see Turkey inside EU until I die.
treadbolt5@reddit
Me too, bud. Me too.
BoringAd8788@reddit
I didn’t lose! I just merely failed to win!
treadbolt5@reddit
Me too bud
PuzDefektas@reddit
fun fact. The reason why corrupt politicians like building roads is because you can steal almost unlimited amounts of money during construction...
Empty-Pace-4228@reddit
Yes? It is very shocking that people started to realize it right now.
I was debating politics with my uncle, I swear I'm not even joking, I was telling him how Erdoğan ruins Turkey and he was defending Erdoğan.
In the end he told me, look kiddo, I know that Erdoğan ruins the country. I can also see the numbers myself. The situation is not good but I can't really change my mind. Because whenever I see Erdoğan in televisions, yelling people and teaching a lesson to the "West" it gives me a sense of ecstasy. I tried to stop supporting him but I can't. Because whenever I come back at my house after a long day of work, I see this charismatic man with a mustache challenging the world. He insults businessmen and others like a real strongman. If he decided to collaborate with the West, Turkey would have been richer! But instead, he took all the world in front of him, accepting all the difficulties.
He's like a father figure, my choices were never rational in the first place I know, it is about my adoration towards him. Whenever I see military parades on TV and Erdoğan challenging the West, I feel myself proud. This give me an emotion that I don't want to lose. So even though I know Turkey became a bankrupt autocracy. I will support him no matter what.
No-Alarm-576@reddit
I hope this is satire, because... wtf. I feel like I need an eye bleach. 🤮
Simecrafter@reddit
How can anyone find him charismatic? The attempts of "challenging the world" is just like a toddlers attempt to look intimidating to a bodybuilder
genophobicdude@reddit
Do you think his supporters are normal functioning members of society? They are deriving their sense of confidence from guzzling it from a daddy figure they see on TV.
BulutAndFriends@reddit
There's one clip of a woman in a crowd claiming that Erdoğan is the last prophet after Muhammad, saying that they (AKP members) worship him.
genophobicdude@reddit
Is anyone surprised? Of course not.
redmengs@reddit
what do u guys see on tv? i havent seen anything about turkey in the news unless theres earthquake.. doesnt challange the west at all. he does make his own life good while making it hard for citizen. u could be in europe but he refuses to change some easy things. so he keeps being rejected from being a part of europe.
then again if u ask me i dunno if u would want to be a part of europe anyway, for turkey its maybe good for people like me europe is a drain would be much better off without europe
zengondat@reddit
İnsane propaganda. News don’t show anything other than politics, events you only get to see from one perspective and people who dies in tragic ways
Empty-Pace-4228@reddit
1-) The TV channels in Turkey in Europe are vastly different. In Turkey 95% of TV channels are in state control and only CHP is allowed to have a few dissident TV channels. The channels own by businessmen do their best to stay neutral in politics.
Generally in the news, we see how the Supreme Leader are challenging the world teaching the west is a lesson. Almost every single "invasion threat" etc that you hear from Erdoğan is actually his annual propaganda texts that are used to plunder some votes with 0 serious intentions.
2-) The military interventions and National Defense Movement is supported even by the dissidents. Turkey ousted Assad with USA and sent soldiers to Libya with the invitation of the Central Government. Many people think that Turkey actually invades Arab countries etc but it is false. Arab popular support for Turkey is very strong, if you don't believe me you can just discuss this subject with Sunni Syrians in your country. Turkey is really welcomed in Arab countries besides the Gulf (countries where marrying outside your tribe cause a crisis lol).
As a Turkishman living in Europe for 7 years, I can say that saying that "I am Turkish" to Arabs gives you the biggest welcomes. Just saying "Selamun Aleykum" with a Turkish accent in an Arab magazine makes the shop owners smile and be more welcoming towards you.
Turkey's military&sociological success in the Arab World (especially in Syria) is widely used by Erdoğan as a propaganda. Turkey means to non-Gulf and non-Salafi Sunni Muslims what Russia used to mean for Orthodox living in the Ottoman Empire
3-) I see it very naive when Europeans believe that Turks and others envy them, wanna be like them and desire to join them. Turkish people want European money and welfare. Only the bureaucrat families and some pro-west, social liberal circles are pro-European in Turkey. Reddit doesn't really represent Muslim societies. As a matter of fact, when obscene things happen in Turkey (like public s*x scandals on the news etc) people sometimes laugh and say "Lol these people think they're in europe or something?!" like this
Believe me, the only reason Turkish people accept to stay in NATO is the fact that we don't have nukes. If Turkey already had nukes and didn't have economic difficulties, it'd concentrate on neutrality.
Turgut Özal was very pro-EU, his party lost elections in 1991 to DYP which was a "Convervative Liberal" party. This party also getting along with the Europeans. From an outsider perspective you can even call them Pro-EU too.
In 1995, when Claudia Roth and some other EU politicians demanded PKK prisoners to be released, Ayvaz Gökdemir (state minister at that time) said in a press conference "We won't release those traitors because 3 European whores told us to do so!" most people supported him at that time. People saw EU as a tolerable partner to solve economic problems.
That being said, Turkey definitely sees the West as an Ally because Iran-China-Russia are the historical enemies of the Turkic peoples and many of our citizens became victims of Russian aggression. So Turkey will always be a Western ally and never switch sides in any cases.
PomegranateOk2600@reddit
Looks like everything Ataturk tried to accomplish didn’t happen. I wonder how longer until you remove him from the currency
Empty-Pace-4228@reddit
This is straight up anachronism. Many topics that we discussed like Europeanness today were not exactly defined or very different during Atatürk's time. Atatürk used the word "Muasır Medeniyetler" means Contemporary Civilizations instead of Europe. Which also shows us Atatürk saw Europe as an area to take lessons.
However, Atatürk also saw Persia and Syria as brother nations. And I think it's so beautiful! He also would like to see a Turkey that has influence on Levant and North Africa.
canertas@reddit
Pretty much barking dog with no bite on TV. He shows up others not, practically all TV pro-government. He says stuff against the opposition ironically also applies (no, applies to him even more than the opposition) to government. Hide the ugly parts, Highlight the positives (or make some up if there aren’t any).
PomegranateOk2600@reddit
“Teaching a lesson to the west” is there anybody in the west even listening what erdogan says? I don’t know anything about what he does, only when some military stuff happens
i_am_someone_or_am_i@reddit
The nationalism fucking the Turkish people since... always???
casual_philosopher02@reddit
only thing Erdogan taught the west is not to trust him because his opinions are unstable.... I don't live there so you can all die for my moral superiority ahh reply he gave you....
Empty-Pace-4228@reddit
We are Bulgarian Turks, my uncle was raised in a Soviet puppet dictatorship. That alone explains a lot...
casual_philosopher02@reddit
didn't he know that soviets had a pimping boom bigger than any other place? women are still taken advantage of from those countries.... poverty brings the worst
No_Database_7462@reddit
what are you describing fits very well with Russia, Belarus, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, to name a few, if you look up for how long they rule it all makes sense
Empty-Pace-4228@reddit
I feel sorry for my people.
We are lucky that people in my uncle represents only like 50% of the total population. Still, opposition is not as weak as it is in Russia.
That means there is still hope!
No_Database_7462@reddit
I agree with you and I wish Turkey to overcome this, but the fact that it takes 1/3 of a century if not more to resolve this is very concerning, and since I have provided similar examples, can't really blame Turkish people on the fact that they can't do much against, or rather feel unable to do anything, I don't like where the world is currently heading with the rise of authoritarianism, isolation and the rise of right wing extremism
Apart-Temperature329@reddit
Look, I surely do hate Erdo as well, but the 'roads' argument isn't for nothing. Try being in a backwater where you got cut from the city centres when it rains or snows enough...
LiberalDegerler724@reddit
Considering the liberalization of economy worldwide and the boom that accompanied it, it would be not crazy tı say that those infrastructure developments would have happened anyway. Moreover, most expensive AKP infrastructure projects are often unnecessary and done with the purpose of helping companies that are close to Erdoğan. Third strait bridge that literally no one uses is an example of that.
Apart-Temperature329@reddit
Those roads have been happening via public sector, not via some private investors. If anything, private sector couldn't care less about some backwater area getting roads and connections.
That's for sure but we were talking about the roads in specific.
That's not the 'roads' being referred in that phrase.
Noblesouthspice@reddit
Lol have the same problem here in the US too. People are idiots ...
Wild_cmpt6406@reddit
They are in a precarious position, between USA, EU, nato, and Russia, Iran, and China, middle east Israel, etc.
Its questionable how would someone else fare.
LiberalDegerler724@reddit
When you can not justify the internal conditions of your country, just make shit up about other countries.
Wild_cmpt6406@reddit
Made up Kurds, made up turk stream gas and oil from Russia, made up conflict in remnants of Syria, made up EU applicant status for quarter of a century, made up strife against Greece, etc.
LiberalDegerler724@reddit
Cope lmao
Wild_cmpt6406@reddit
🤡
Mokomo_Titipuru@reddit
They are bot between NATO, they are NATO. And they probably have among the best geographical positions of any country.
Wild_cmpt6406@reddit
USA is nato. UK is the "butler" the houseservant.
France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Poortugal, Norway, Benelux, Denmark,Iceland and Canada are the inner rim, secondaries.
Others are in a range on the outer rim with Greece on top, and others as border buffer zones, lapdogs, houndogs, chivavas, etc.
And the 2 cannon fodder failed expansions of Georgia and ukraine as rump states.
As for the geographical position, yes it is advantageous as it has been since bronze age, but it also carries its burdens and calamities.
GirlWithAMightyCock@reddit
does every country in balkans have the same problem?
Can-Holder@reddit
How many Turks does it take to change a bulb?
alyxithymia0@reddit
same shit in Russia
BangingRooster@reddit
The alternative is having foreign puppets
ATAKURT1453@reddit
this is completely something that the KEMALISTS are dealing with, not the TURKS
in turkey, the majority are erdoğan supporters. when you remove the kurds from the opposition, the number of kemalists remains around 25-30%.
however,Reddit Turks will never tell you this. In order to show turkey to you as more western and secular, they will claim that erdoğan and his supporters came from mars
nicname357@reddit
sheeps can be faund at evreywhere they techincly worship erdogan
plus why you showing thise election instead off last one
ATAKURT1453@reddit
here last one ;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Turkish_presidential_election
erdoğan increased his number of votes by 1.5 million in the last elections he contested. ahahahaha
nicname357@reddit
nope he lose in % also in 2024 his his party lose local elections
LiberalDegerler724@reddit
Why are you using an election map from 2018 little brother
ATAKURT1453@reddit
LOL
if i had used the latest elections, that would have hurt you even more. because erdoğan got 26 million votes in 2018 and 27 million in the last presidential election he contested
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Turkish_presidential_election
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Turkish_presidential_election
LiberalDegerler724@reddit
What is the latest election little brother. It is sure as hell aint 2023 elections
lyrics85@reddit
It's the same in Albania, but they don't build many roads, and the ones that are built tend to collapse.
elbatalia@reddit
He made roads? Oh that reminds me of someone…
AggressiveVisit3742@reddit
Same thing with GERB and Boyko Borisov in Bulgaria...
Same_Staff4468@reddit
As a serb, the last panel hit hard. It's like reading the titles of the regime propaganda articles.
Nasch_@reddit
Im tired boss... Dog tired.
4monkeydluffy4@reddit
He is the only reason that we dont have wars in the Mediterranean, the moment he leaves, we are gonna have a multi war, with countries like Turkey, Greece, Cyprus, Israel, Russia, Bulgaria, getting involved. So just keep him where he is.
LiberalDegerler724@reddit
Lmao yeah sure grandpa
4monkeydluffy4@reddit
I hope, I wont have to come back in a couple of months , to tell you , "I told you"
LiberalDegerler724@reddit
Even then I would prefer a nuclear war over Erdoğan
Sufficient-Charge46@reddit
We were forced to choose between alevi kurd and gerogian.
BigHotNWord@reddit
Erdoğan isn't even Georgian the people in his village were speaking Greek in the 1800s he just lied about it.
treadbolt5@reddit
My brother in hell, THE WHOLE COUNTRY IS GENOMICALLY LIKE THAT! circessians, persians, balkans, we are the genetic inheritors of the entirety of anatolia.
Sufficient-Charge46@reddit
i dont buy this bullshit anymore. Try better next time
memelordrs@reddit
Average senior citizen voting logic
redmengs@reddit
if turkey would just stop letting turks born and raised in western europe vote for their country i bet it would make things better already. millions of votes come from all over the world from people who dont even have money to visit turkey
LiberalDegerler724@reddit
Yeah. It was not this widespread before Erdoğan but after he saw that Turks living in Europe are bunch of hillbillies that would vote for him no matter what he greatly expanded their voting accesibility.
Apart-Temperature329@reddit
I hate the conservative Turkish migrants and second gen in Western Europe as the next guy, but their votes aren't even significant in making Erdo win.
casual_philosopher02@reddit
yes I agree and wish diaspora never votes in my country as well, deciding for a nation you don't live in is a bad idea. If they vote an oligarch next morning they wil get 0 consequences of their vote....
Killergamer7@reddit
Every Balkan country talking about how they want to take down their leader
edwardthe3rd188@reddit
I still remember him going gung ho on islamic economics even firing central bank and finance ministers 3 or 4 times and it backfired everytime it took nearly 1 or 1 and half years for him to change his mind to orthodox style but the currency went in a freefall 30 20% i think.
Like ... no one should stay in power after pulling this shit . I admire his foreign and defense policy it has made turkey a strong regional and at many levels global player this was a very very hard thing to achieve .
Now he should step down and make a successor and leave with dignity but if he tries to amend the constitution again just just revolt .
dkajwiw8@reddit
Yep
jessySwell14@reddit
You nailed the exact script for every single family dinner in Istanbul for the last decade.
notaperson26@reddit
Unfortunately to many people sees he and his political party godly and a must for our country to exist. And because of theese stupid-ass ignorant people, erdoğan and his burglar friends, our country and lifes are getting worse and worse.
OpeningScared8273@reddit
How is economy in shambles? I ask cuz I dont know. How has PPP changed over the years?
Frequent-Ease-1926@reddit
we are stuck in a dilemma over interest rates.
We either have to drop rates by 3000bps and adapt to frivolous inflation or we have to increase rates by 3000bps so we can actually crack down on inflation. Any other solution is draining our pockets with no real gains.
treadbolt5@reddit
Rich got richer, poor remained where they are, inflation crunched on the poor. Some improvement to infrastructure cast the illusion of meaningful progress.
dzedajev@reddit
Exactly the same in Serbia as well, although at least we have some movement with the student protests and people supporting them more by the day.
Excellent-Red_8647@reddit
Yes. Thats what they say to me lol
MisterMonogon@reddit
Pretty much this
Frequent-Ease-1926@reddit
third slide is partially correct, no one cares that he got older or is elected twice. (three times actually)
Mountain_Dentist5074@reddit
Yes.
SunnyTheMasterSwitch@reddit
He made electricity in Turkey free, from Ataturk's coffin that is spinning with thousands of RPM. He wiped his ass with the Turkish constitution.
Sufficient-Charge46@reddit
Can you speak like civilized Man instead of gorilla
SunnyTheMasterSwitch@reddit
His terms as a president are so atrocious that Ataturk himself would be ashamed, for Erdogan made a mockery of democracy and the Turkish constitution.
Happy?
Sufficient-Charge46@reddit
Yes
treadbolt5@reddit
Pffft… if he made electricity free, it would actually be an improvement. All that spin power goes directly to funding his son’s cocaine addiction
Gordon_Freeman01@reddit
It's true. The opposition is useless and they would make everything worse.
OptimusTron222@reddit
I would swear that him, Putin, Lukashenko and maybe Rama are competing on who can live longer to rule for longer than
Rude-Professional-69@reddit
%110. THIS MAN SPITTING FAX!!!'!
otaku_nazi@reddit
Same shit here as well
FantasticScore4309@reddit
Too mild. Not enough r*tardation
Significant-Ad-7182@reddit
It's actually worse.
StPauliPirate@reddit
My grandma adores Erdogan like a prophet, because during the 2000s in a election his party gifted her a washing machine. This is the true face of democracy🥲
Anyway, despite all his stubborn supporters. I don‘t think Erdogan could win anymore in fair & free elections.
Dimo145@reddit
People deserve what they tolerate, same case and point everywhere recently ^^
EnesAkhan@reddit
Yes
Tenchi_Muyo1@reddit
Inside_Marketing268@reddit
Almost. There is no moment: the elections are rigged.
Corleone0@reddit
He nearly lost last time if I remember correctly
QuietWaterBreaksRock@reddit
Damn, so same as in Serbia
Cihonidas@reddit
This is exactly what we are dealing with. His supporters are a different breed.
zeclem_@reddit
no, patrick hasnt tried to use violence against him on the spot. and he agreed that economy is doing badly, which a lot of akp supporters are willfully in denial about.
BulutAndFriends@reddit
There's this one AKP weirdo comment under some video, saying that the CHP were evil Zionists. Also, the video itself was some slander of İsmet İnönü just because he did a meeting with Venizelos, because apparently you shouldn't "meet with a man who killed your people"
NecessaryDisaster498@reddit
Not that I defend the AKP, but the "he made roads!!!" is such a Euro take. It is very likely that they are going to put Fidan for the next election.
Brawl_starr@reddit
i_am_someone_or_am_i@reddit
Yes.