Miyazaki hated Mussolini, as seen in Porco Rosso, but held more complex views about Nazism, as seen in The Wind Rises (Grave of Fireflies too, though that's not his film)
I'd argue, if I had to guess, it'd be closer to "Morality is hard to parse in war, and I dont think anyone should condemn Japan for siding with the side that seemed most beneficial to our country at the time"
Im not saying I agree with him, or even that Im 100% confident thats what he thinks, but I would guess that's his stance. Like, its hard to hear Jiro talk about how an artist needs to do whats best for themselves, regardless of what people are then hurt down the road and not ask what else that might be referring to.
I think it’s hard to compare atrocities apples to apples but yeah. Japan as a nation committed unspeakable horrors in their neighbors. It’s somewhat despicable that even today they try to promote a “nuanced view” when the objective reality is that their actions during the war weren’t very nuanced at all. They were quite barbaric, even demonic at times. As a nation they never really reckoned with this legacy and usually sweet it under the rug and deny the worst atrocities.
"Kafka By the Shore" by Murakami is quite a neat book that examines the confusing dichotomy that generation of Japan's population hold over both being traumatised by one of the worst attacks on innocent civilians ever made, and the guilt of the horrors they committed during the war.
Very much a "How does is the current generation meant to find its way through this intense generational trauma AND generational guilt? tale
People tend to fixate on the nuclear detonations at Hiroshima and Nagasaki because of the shock factor, but they’re far from “the worst attack on innocent civilians ever made.” In fact, they’re not even the largest civilian casualty events in Japan in WW2. That would be the firebombing of Tokyo, which claimed the lives of ~100k civilians.
But of course the higher estimations for civilian casualties in the Tokyo bombing are roughly equivalent to the lowest estimations for that of the Nanjing Massacre. And let’s not forget that Nanjing Massacre denial is a movement which still has its supporters to this day.
As an example of Japanese media that doesn't, the book "Kafka by the Shore" by Murakami is quite an interesting read.
Past its absurdism, its a book examining the extreme dichotic aftermath of the war for that generation of Japanese people; having to live with what's perhaps the the worst attack on innocent civilians ever made, and the horror's the country committed during the war.
It's very much a "How is the current generation affected by this? How are they meant to navigate the extreme generational trauma AND generational guilt they've inherited form their Fathers?" kinda tale
Wait internment officer as in the warden who was keeping him prisoner and torturing him like this? He divorced his wife to marry his former torturer at 78? How the fuck did that even happen?
Unit 731 is probably the closest humanity has come to real life sci-fi-esqe body horror. Those scientists just didn't give a fuck about human life, simple as
I would be genuinely interested in trying to understand what's going on in the head of the Japanese who deny/defend the actions of Imperial Japan in the late 30s/early 40s. Not because I will agree with them, but I just want to see what they even try to imagine holds up a worldview. I doubt they admittedly just think "I'm evil and I root for the bad guys."
Sorry but there is no way Miyazaki is sympathetic to Nazis or imperial Japan. He is a communist, a feminist and he glorifies pre-industrial society. Miyazaki is conscious of creating market friendly movies and a movie that harshly critiques Japan won’t sell. However in interviews he has demanded Japan take more responsibility for their atrocities. Please actually look up the opinions of artists before you spread misinformation. The only way The Wind Rises sympathizes with imperial Japan is it depicts their airplanes as cool.
Miyazaki’s family owned a company that manufactured planes for Imperial Japan and tried to portray Japan as the victim of WW2 in Grave of the Fireflies.
I haven't seen that movie but it wasn't a Miyazaki movie. Miyazaki's family history, do you think that proves anything? He has been outspokenly opposed to imperial Japan and his family history is probably part of the reason for that.
"Morality is hard to parse in war, and I dont think anyone should condemn Japan for siding with the side that seemed most beneficial to our country at the time"
The thing is, that argument would apply perfectly to Finland, and perhaps to some of the minor axis powers and the Baltic volunteers in the German army. But Japan? Hell no. They were fighting a brutal war of expansion, they weren’t being threatened by China, the UK, the US, etc. They hadn’t been attacked, or made to cede territory or sovereignty under the threat of military action. They were the aggressors.
It’s also interesting to reframe Japan’s evils as “being allied with Germany” when their alliance was one entirely of convenience, and usually an alliance on paper only. Actual military cooperation was extremely limited. They had different goals entirely, they just both happened to be fighting the western allies at the same time.
People in the West don't realize that WW2 in Europe was practically a side show for that half of the hemisphere. The invasion of manchuria predated WW2 most of the decade and the SECOND sino war was in full swing for 2 years before WW2 in Europe.
As you say, the Nazi association was just a twist of fate. Both countries really had no ground to blame their sins on the other.
Yeah. Nazi Germany had been aiding the KMT, and Japan was helping the Poles, so they didn’t even share all the same enemies! Japan was doing their best to not piss off the Russians after 1939, to the point where they didn’t attack US ships (full of lend-lease supplies) if they were going to Russia. I’m sure the Nazis loved that.
Well, the bigger point is those with means shouldn't avoid participating in a war effort. It's also less "anti-war" and more "anti-manufactured-war". Miyazaki has spoken about how angry he was about the pointlessness of the war with Iraq as HMC came out. It's not a coincidence that the war in HWC is artificial and orchestrated. War, as a general concept, has not been something Miyazaki has shyed away from.
As I mentioned, The Wind Rises makes a controversial choice of arguing that one can forgive Japan for its role in WWII, though secondary to its wider commentary on artistic responsibility. While he didn't make it, his studio did also make Grave of Fireflies. While a lot of westerners viewed that film as "Look how awful war is, the kids died!" The intention is clear, and has been explained to be that war is a harsh truth of life, and that the little boy was to blame for not "pulling his weight" during hard times. Less "Bad things happen, stop all war" more "Bad things happen, don't run away from it".
I still think the "it must happen when needed" is not part of the framing or messaging of the movie. You see each side's motivations and can be empathetic with them, but they are still portrayed as misguided, and the result of the war as a tragedy.
Brother it didn't have to be that way, nothing in the film suggests that "well this was a necessary evil so it's ok", more "wow look at how terrible these people are, don't be like them"
Just "dont be like them"? Is that all it said?
So it was telling you to leave these terrible people alone and depicting Ashitaka as in the wrong for fighting against them?
Or are you maybe averting your eyes from the part of the message you dont like?
It's a cautionary tale about living in harmony with nature. The point is that the humans shouldn't be trying to kill the spirits, not that the humans needed to die for attacking the spirits. Nothing in the film suggest that waging war against the humans was necessary and that people needed to die to be stopped.
Also I don't know how you interpret Mononoke to mean "war is ok sometimes" if anything the message is "Humans are violent creatures that bring death and destruction wherever they go so war is an inevitability"
"Humans are violent creatures that bring death and destruction wherever they go so war is an inevitability... so when war inevitably is called for, you need to step up and fight for the right side"
I don't know about all of that. Howl doesn't want to take part in the government's stupid pointless war, eventually has no choice but to take part in said war and it turns him into a monster.
Howl's big arc in the film is growing from a detached egotist into some that cares about others. Why do you think he lives in a moving castle? He has walls up. He is the moving castle.
The film absolutely criticises Howl for ignoring the pleas of people who need him to help. When he does participate, this is seen as character growth and a big part of his development.
Again, this is where we can see their maturity when tackling the subject comes in because you're right. Fighting in the war "makes him a monster". Just how like fighting in WWI made Porco a pig, or how Seita's living situation was unfair but the right thing to do was to bear it, or how Jiro's plane designs killed countless people. A simpler movie would have had Howl beat the monster to the cheers of everyone. Happy ending, everyone dances to Smash Mouth. But while Ghibli films accept the need for war, they never sugar coat war.
Howl was a monster for killing people, but sometimes you need to be a monster. We also, again, have that element of the war in HMC being a fake war. But they really do stress that Howl was selfish in the scenes where he was lounging in bed while people died.
But Howl isn't even picking a side in the war, he's fighting the war itself - attacking bombers just to stop their bombing runs. Likewise, Porco isn't shy about fighting, he's fighting people most of the movie, but as with Howl he's taking extreme steps to avoid causing harm or death, and is very clear that they only fight on his own terms, not those of leaders or nations.
If you mean his "anime was a mistake" comment, that is from a rather biased translation shared around by those who either have some sort of agenda, or were just stirring up trouble. If you look to disinterested translators, his remarks come out a lot less provocative, and indeed kind of banal. They amount to "All animation made today is trash, but the worst one is your favourite show. Also your waifu is a slut."
I may have remembered a similar meme about a Twitter screenshot saying almost the same exact thing.
Like metal gear is beloved, it has war bad and diversity: the player being the gay character. As if the "they put politics into it" screaching only occurs when the politics are slopply and lazily implemented.
I watched some of the movies, and theyre beautiful, but holy fuck this guy is such a drag everytime he opens his mouth I cant watch without the feeling of some hypocrisy behind the movie, idk how u can be so annoyed by life itself and try to make a product about life being beatiful
What was, at one point, his final movie was set during WWII and about the inventor of the Japanese Bomber. Sure, it was more a metaphor for the creative process and artistic responsibility, but it was still very much the focus.
Scarytoaster1809@reddit
Porco Rosso is literally an anti-fascist movie
Pumpkin_Sushi@reddit
Miyazaki hated Mussolini, as seen in Porco Rosso, but held more complex views about Nazism, as seen in The Wind Rises (Grave of Fireflies too, though that's not his film)
Bupod@reddit
Is “complex views” shorthand for he liked them but couldn’t outright say he liked them.
Pumpkin_Sushi@reddit
I'd argue, if I had to guess, it'd be closer to "Morality is hard to parse in war, and I dont think anyone should condemn Japan for siding with the side that seemed most beneficial to our country at the time"
Im not saying I agree with him, or even that Im 100% confident thats what he thinks, but I would guess that's his stance. Like, its hard to hear Jiro talk about how an artist needs to do whats best for themselves, regardless of what people are then hurt down the road and not ask what else that might be referring to.
coolguy9229@reddit
Where are you getting this information? He literally condemns Imperial Japan's crimes here
BrunesOvrBrauns@reddit
Japan was objectively more evil and committed more and worse war crimes than Germany in that whole conflict so I'm not sure this flies at all
Bupod@reddit
I think it’s hard to compare atrocities apples to apples but yeah. Japan as a nation committed unspeakable horrors in their neighbors. It’s somewhat despicable that even today they try to promote a “nuanced view” when the objective reality is that their actions during the war weren’t very nuanced at all. They were quite barbaric, even demonic at times. As a nation they never really reckoned with this legacy and usually sweet it under the rug and deny the worst atrocities.
Pumpkin_Sushi@reddit
"Kafka By the Shore" by Murakami is quite a neat book that examines the confusing dichotomy that generation of Japan's population hold over both being traumatised by one of the worst attacks on innocent civilians ever made, and the guilt of the horrors they committed during the war.
Very much a "How does is the current generation meant to find its way through this intense generational trauma AND generational guilt? tale
TawdryTulip@reddit
It’s a Russian officer who catches the Japanese therapist guy and a spy. Then the Japanese spy gets skinned alive while the doctor is forced to watch.
nzdastardly@reddit
Now the therapist is going to need a therapist.
TawdryTulip@reddit
In the next scene he has a spiritual reckoning at the bottom of a well. Much cheaper and faster.
nzdastardly@reddit
Murakami loves a dry well, a jazz soundtrack, and a bottle of cutty sark.
viciouspandas@reddit
What are you referring to as the worst attack on innocent civilians?
TheKingOfTCGames@reddit
Lmao im pretty sure 50k civilian deaths is a drop in the bucket even in that time.
They did worse on random cities with bayonets
Lord_Chromosome@reddit
People tend to fixate on the nuclear detonations at Hiroshima and Nagasaki because of the shock factor, but they’re far from “the worst attack on innocent civilians ever made.” In fact, they’re not even the largest civilian casualty events in Japan in WW2. That would be the firebombing of Tokyo, which claimed the lives of ~100k civilians.
But of course the higher estimations for civilian casualties in the Tokyo bombing are roughly equivalent to the lowest estimations for that of the Nanjing Massacre. And let’s not forget that Nanjing Massacre denial is a movement which still has its supporters to this day.
Mental_Jeweler_3191@reddit
Atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki
Pumpkin_Sushi@reddit
As an example of Japanese media that doesn't, the book "Kafka by the Shore" by Murakami is quite an interesting read.
Past its absurdism, its a book examining the extreme dichotic aftermath of the war for that generation of Japanese people; having to live with what's perhaps the the worst attack on innocent civilians ever made, and the horror's the country committed during the war.
It's very much a "How is the current generation affected by this? How are they meant to navigate the extreme generational trauma AND generational guilt they've inherited form their Fathers?" kinda tale
BrunesOvrBrauns@reddit
Honor system would never have it any differently
Pumpkin_Sushi@reddit
They made my grandad eat soup with chopsticks and dress up in a maid outfit while they all pinched his thighs and called him "Gaijin-kun"
At the age of 78 he divorced my grandmother and moved to Osaka to marry his old internment officer
Frequent_Dig1934@reddit
Wait internment officer as in the warden who was keeping him prisoner and torturing him like this? He divorced his wife to marry his former torturer at 78? How the fuck did that even happen?
BrunesOvrBrauns@reddit
Love that for him
djaqk@reddit
Unit 731 is probably the closest humanity has come to real life sci-fi-esqe body horror. Those scientists just didn't give a fuck about human life, simple as
Fern-ando@reddit
You said that like if Japan wasn't as evil as the nazis.
Pumpkin_Sushi@reddit
Res_Novae17@reddit
I would be genuinely interested in trying to understand what's going on in the head of the Japanese who deny/defend the actions of Imperial Japan in the late 30s/early 40s. Not because I will agree with them, but I just want to see what they even try to imagine holds up a worldview. I doubt they admittedly just think "I'm evil and I root for the bad guys."
Pumpkin_Sushi@reddit
I doubt any side in any war has genuinely thought this
bunker_man@reddit
Some of them claim the war crimes were made up, and Japan had to act to protect itself.
tesseracts@reddit
Sorry but there is no way Miyazaki is sympathetic to Nazis or imperial Japan. He is a communist, a feminist and he glorifies pre-industrial society. Miyazaki is conscious of creating market friendly movies and a movie that harshly critiques Japan won’t sell. However in interviews he has demanded Japan take more responsibility for their atrocities. Please actually look up the opinions of artists before you spread misinformation. The only way The Wind Rises sympathizes with imperial Japan is it depicts their airplanes as cool.
Pumpkin_Sushi@reddit
Hey man Im sorry, but sometimes you have to accept the creator of media you like isn't perfect
I love Peter Pana and Alice in Wonderland, and both were written by straight up pedos
BazelBuster@reddit
Miyazaki’s family owned a company that manufactured planes for Imperial Japan and tried to portray Japan as the victim of WW2 in Grave of the Fireflies.
tesseracts@reddit
I haven't seen that movie but it wasn't a Miyazaki movie. Miyazaki's family history, do you think that proves anything? He has been outspokenly opposed to imperial Japan and his family history is probably part of the reason for that.
fromthewindyplace@reddit
"Morality is hard to parse in war, and I dont think anyone should condemn Japan for siding with the side that seemed most beneficial to our country at the time"
The thing is, that argument would apply perfectly to Finland, and perhaps to some of the minor axis powers and the Baltic volunteers in the German army. But Japan? Hell no. They were fighting a brutal war of expansion, they weren’t being threatened by China, the UK, the US, etc. They hadn’t been attacked, or made to cede territory or sovereignty under the threat of military action. They were the aggressors.
It’s also interesting to reframe Japan’s evils as “being allied with Germany” when their alliance was one entirely of convenience, and usually an alliance on paper only. Actual military cooperation was extremely limited. They had different goals entirely, they just both happened to be fighting the western allies at the same time.
Sanguinor-Exemplar@reddit
People in the West don't realize that WW2 in Europe was practically a side show for that half of the hemisphere. The invasion of manchuria predated WW2 most of the decade and the SECOND sino war was in full swing for 2 years before WW2 in Europe.
As you say, the Nazi association was just a twist of fate. Both countries really had no ground to blame their sins on the other.
fromthewindyplace@reddit
Yeah. Nazi Germany had been aiding the KMT, and Japan was helping the Poles, so they didn’t even share all the same enemies! Japan was doing their best to not piss off the Russians after 1939, to the point where they didn’t attack US ships (full of lend-lease supplies) if they were going to Russia. I’m sure the Nazis loved that.
bunker_man@reddit
Japan murder-raping its way across an entire continent was a little more than "we had to side with bad people to survive."
Brief-Luck-6254@reddit
You have to be on some weird level of racism to dislike Mussolini but like Hitler.
hinstsui@reddit
well, it’s also nice and easy that through out history, the good guy always win in the end, so that helps too
AnDanDan@reddit
John Pork origin story
Scarytoaster1809@reddit
Show some damn respect to Porco Rosso
The_Slake_Moth@reddit
The entire point of Howl's Moving Castle is that war is bad
Pumpkin_Sushi@reddit
Well, the bigger point is those with means shouldn't avoid participating in a war effort. It's also less "anti-war" and more "anti-manufactured-war". Miyazaki has spoken about how angry he was about the pointlessness of the war with Iraq as HMC came out. It's not a coincidence that the war in HWC is artificial and orchestrated. War, as a general concept, has not been something Miyazaki has shyed away from.
As I mentioned, The Wind Rises makes a controversial choice of arguing that one can forgive Japan for its role in WWII, though secondary to its wider commentary on artistic responsibility. While he didn't make it, his studio did also make Grave of Fireflies. While a lot of westerners viewed that film as "Look how awful war is, the kids died!" The intention is clear, and has been explained to be that war is a harsh truth of life, and that the little boy was to blame for not "pulling his weight" during hard times. Less "Bad things happen, stop all war" more "Bad things happen, don't run away from it".
duva_@reddit
I disagree with your take on Mononoke, tho. The point is that everyone gets forced into fighting and laments it has to be that way
Pumpkin_Sushi@reddit
Totally, but it did have to be that way, that's kinda it in a nutshell.
duva_@reddit
I still think the "it must happen when needed" is not part of the framing or messaging of the movie. You see each side's motivations and can be empathetic with them, but they are still portrayed as misguided, and the result of the war as a tragedy.
The_Slake_Moth@reddit
Brother it didn't have to be that way, nothing in the film suggests that "well this was a necessary evil so it's ok", more "wow look at how terrible these people are, don't be like them"
Pumpkin_Sushi@reddit
Just "dont be like them"? Is that all it said?
So it was telling you to leave these terrible people alone and depicting Ashitaka as in the wrong for fighting against them?
Or are you maybe averting your eyes from the part of the message you dont like?
The_Slake_Moth@reddit
It's a cautionary tale about living in harmony with nature. The point is that the humans shouldn't be trying to kill the spirits, not that the humans needed to die for attacking the spirits. Nothing in the film suggest that waging war against the humans was necessary and that people needed to die to be stopped.
JustChillin3456@reddit
It didn’t have to be that way
The humans at iron town FORCED nature to attack to literally protect their homes / lives
The_Slake_Moth@reddit
Also I don't know how you interpret Mononoke to mean "war is ok sometimes" if anything the message is "Humans are violent creatures that bring death and destruction wherever they go so war is an inevitability"
Pumpkin_Sushi@reddit
Finish the thought.
"Humans are violent creatures that bring death and destruction wherever they go so war is an inevitability... so when war inevitably is called for, you need to step up and fight for the right side"
JannyBroomer@reddit
The guy you're discussing this with is trying to sound deep, but in actuality he's a fat guy in a kiddie pool
The_Slake_Moth@reddit
Not as fat as your mom
The_Slake_Moth@reddit
I don't know about all of that. Howl doesn't want to take part in the government's stupid pointless war, eventually has no choice but to take part in said war and it turns him into a monster.
Pumpkin_Sushi@reddit
Howl's big arc in the film is growing from a detached egotist into some that cares about others. Why do you think he lives in a moving castle? He has walls up. He is the moving castle.
The film absolutely criticises Howl for ignoring the pleas of people who need him to help. When he does participate, this is seen as character growth and a big part of his development.
Again, this is where we can see their maturity when tackling the subject comes in because you're right. Fighting in the war "makes him a monster". Just how like fighting in WWI made Porco a pig, or how Seita's living situation was unfair but the right thing to do was to bear it, or how Jiro's plane designs killed countless people. A simpler movie would have had Howl beat the monster to the cheers of everyone. Happy ending, everyone dances to Smash Mouth. But while Ghibli films accept the need for war, they never sugar coat war.
Howl was a monster for killing people, but sometimes you need to be a monster. We also, again, have that element of the war in HMC being a fake war. But they really do stress that Howl was selfish in the scenes where he was lounging in bed while people died.
maninahat@reddit
But Howl isn't even picking a side in the war, he's fighting the war itself - attacking bombers just to stop their bombing runs. Likewise, Porco isn't shy about fighting, he's fighting people most of the movie, but as with Howl he's taking extreme steps to avoid causing harm or death, and is very clear that they only fight on his own terms, not those of leaders or nations.
kiddrekt@reddit
And an old lady falls over and you get to see her panties but the old lady is actually a young girl... Oh
Pumpkin_Sushi@reddit
Obaasan p-pantsu
colouredcyan@reddit
Lol, I love that quote about falling over, that was part of the interview promoting grave of the fireflies?
tigertoken1@reddit
Damn right
WimpyWarrior57@reddit
The bait is so bad, it loops back around to being good 7/10 ragebait
BlorfagusDornkle@reddit
anon has never watched a Miyazaki film

-TwistedHairs-@reddit
what the fuck is a film?
Kaeru-Sennin@reddit
"Film" is the french word for "movie"
_PykeGaming_@reddit
Also Italian
Petermitnemmeter@reddit
Also Gernan
Amder264@reddit
Also Polish
FickleConcentration@reddit
You’d know it as kino. Normies say film when talking about fancy “high quality” movies, like any westernslop could be good.
TheZoroark007@reddit
The shiny, sticky stuff on your socks
FoxCQC@reddit
It's the plot of The Castle of Cagliostro.
Ver_Nick@reddit
anon thought he was onto something
whoisalireza@reddit
Lol where is this from
StandardN02b@reddit
Nina from Full Metal Alchemist
Ver_Nick@reddit
no clue, i just saved it to goon later
whoisalireza@reddit
How can you goom with just that
thetyphonlol@reddit
he for sure cant without anymore
Thendrail@reddit
Always up for a challenge.
-Mr_Hollow-@reddit
I feel like he did because if you multiply this take by -1 that's exactly how Miyazaki works are
PhantomCruze@reddit
Redditor is out of touch with 4chan nuance
NighthawK1911@reddit
They butchered Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind the first time they allowed to dub it.
That's why. Among other things.
Plastic_Mongoose_390@reddit
tell me you didn't see a single Hayao Miyazaki film without telling me you didn't see a single Hayao Miyazaki film
_PykeGaming_@reddit
Yeah... that clearly describes Miyazaki's work...
0/10 ragebait.
Time-Ladder4753@reddit
He's right, that actually happens in Miyazaki works
_PykeGaming_@reddit
Take my upvote and leave.
Ultures12@reddit
Well you took the time to wrote this response so its gotta be atleast a 4/10 ragebait
_PykeGaming_@reddit
Considering I got 69 upvotes as of right now, it's still a 0/10 that helped me farm a bit :3
DorisStockwellDay@reddit
Thanks for commenting again so I could downvote you twice
SweetTooth275@reddit
They're both shit in their own rewpects tho
kilqax@reddit
Either this is the shittiest ragebait ever or it's actually genius because the bait is so bad it annoys people
TheMadManiac@reddit
Yup, nobody bitches more than anime fans. Over grown toddlers who never moved past watching little cartoons
ElnuDev@reddit
found OOP
kilqax@reddit
I see, 4chinners visit Reddit at times as well. Welcome to our cultural exchange program.
WaveDash16@reddit
Literally how 4chan works, there are no likes/votes or algorithm, only thing that matters is replies, so getting people to reply is the only goal.
Lord_Chromosome@reddit
This is either the worst or best bait I’ve ever seen.
Designated_Lurker_32@reddit
It's because he literally hates everything, that's why.
bunker_man@reddit
Except ironically the one thing reddit made up fake quotes to claim he hated.
Reymma@reddit
If you mean his "anime was a mistake" comment, that is from a rather biased translation shared around by those who either have some sort of agenda, or were just stirring up trouble. If you look to disinterested translators, his remarks come out a lot less provocative, and indeed kind of banal. They amount to "All animation made today is trash, but the worst one is your favourite show. Also your waifu is a slut."
erroredhcker@reddit
ah so hes a ragebaiter, poetic
NulliosG@reddit
kkungergo@reddit
Thats like one ghibli film, or am i forgetting something?
foxinabathtub@reddit
Ah that famous Miyazaki film that doesn't include politics, philosophy, war, humanity, love, history, science fiction, adventure, or action.
Biggu5Dicku5@reddit
Masterpiecemaker... :)
badi1220@reddit
Old games didn't have politics in them like metal gear solid- ahh post.
Frequent_Dig1934@reddit
Tbf i've never heard anyone ever argue that metal gear isn't political.
badi1220@reddit
I may have remembered a similar meme about a Twitter screenshot saying almost the same exact thing.
Like metal gear is beloved, it has war bad and diversity: the player being the gay character. As if the "they put politics into it" screaching only occurs when the politics are slopply and lazily implemented.
lefier_moustachu@reddit
Football and sports in general never have been about politics ahh post
avagrantthought@reddit
Miyazaki is a pretentious, arrogant and narcissistic asshole but anon was way off the mark
hairyballsinmybutt@reddit
Everything I've heard about him makes him out to be a miserable asshole.
wimpetta@reddit
no dude he made le wholesome japaneese animation movie
hairyballsinmybutt@reddit
Apparently, he's awful to work for too.
KsuhDilla@reddit
no dude he made le wholesome japaneese animation movie
hairyballsinmybutt@reddit
Your blind consumerism is built on the siffering of Japanese animators.
MrShoe321@reddit
Siffering
hairyballsinmybutt@reddit
Soofering
KsuhDilla@reddit
did you just downvote me?
funnyalbert@reddit
Which is abit ironic for the guy who claimed to be pro-worker rights
0c_099@reddit
I watched some of the movies, and theyre beautiful, but holy fuck this guy is such a drag everytime he opens his mouth I cant watch without the feeling of some hypocrisy behind the movie, idk how u can be so annoyed by life itself and try to make a product about life being beatiful
Fern-ando@reddit
Didn't ge made a movie about a pig in Mussolinis Italy?
Matt_2504@reddit
The dude that made dark souls
ya_boi_kaneki@reddit
nah bro thats hideo kojima. this dude made smash bros
Fexxvi@reddit
That's Hideki Kamiya you're thinking of.
Breubz@reddit
You’re thinking of Michael Zaki, creator of Dark Soles
Pumpkin_Sushi@reddit
Only Dark Souls 2
Molkwi@reddit
The best one? Maybe he's not so bad after all.
breakfasteveryday@reddit
Wrong Miyazaki
KnightThyme@reddit
Miyazaki and Miyazaki need to collab and give us Ghibli Souls
LeifSized@reddit
It would be sweet to get curb stomped by Totoro.
breakfasteveryday@reddit
Wrong Miyazaki
sonerec725@reddit
OP is Yoshiyuki Tomino
Ssyynnxx@reddit
Imagine watching spirited away etc and coming away with this take lmao
LikeItReallyMatters1@reddit
Imagine thinking anyone on 4chan has any media literacy
ReynAetherwindt@reddit
Not every board on 4chan has such a high concentration of dumbasses.
Champomi@reddit
Anon has media literacy and is using his knowledge to troll people
Nice_Weeb_Kun@reddit
I cant take this slander, do anyone know where anon live?
Prestigious-Fig1172@reddit
Nausicaä has all of the above (except the main chatacter is an adult) and it might be my favorite movie of all time.
Useful-Bug-6061@reddit
Miyazaki might just be noticing
PrrrromotionGiven1@reddit
Famously apolitical Miyazaki
Apprehensive_Ad_7184@reddit
Bro has never seen Grave of the Fireflies,
NetStaIker@reddit
Nah anon has a good take
Correct? Maybe not but I enjoyed it
The_Slake_Moth@reddit
It's a funny take, which is arguably more important than a correct one.
basilisk_boi2@reddit
Nice try but I’m still never watching one of these Chinese cartoons
fakaito@reddit
Facts: Anon only care about little girl's Panties
Gay: Anon care more about his old men making movies than his parents
noconverse@reddit
Miyazaki hates Hollywood because it's American. Simple as.
Anime-Man-1432@reddit
TF...
LordJanas@reddit
Bro looks like Colonel Sanders
Pumpkin_Sushi@reddit
Sanders-sensei
roankr@reddit
No he looks like Coroneru Saandaasu
Pumpkin_Sushi@reddit
What was, at one point, his final movie was set during WWII and about the inventor of the Japanese Bomber. Sure, it was more a metaphor for the creative process and artistic responsibility, but it was still very much the focus.