The Big Lebowski: The Dude, Dante, and Hades
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The Big Lebowski is a story about The Dude as Dante, taking a tour through Hades.
The Stranger is Virgil, narrating the story of Hades and its residents.
Walter is Charon, the ferryman. When the Dude picks up Walter, Walter immediately insists on driving. Walter driving the Dude's car over the wooden bridge represents Charon ferrying a soul across the river Styx. The money-filled briefcase the Dude gives Walter represents the ferryman’s toll. When the briefcase is stolen, Walter leads the efforts and search to retrieve it. Walter also arranges and pays for Donny's cremation, and scatters Donny's ashes at Oceanus: Charon delivers souls from the land of the living to the land of the dead.
Uli and the Nihilists are Cerberus, the three-headed dog guarding the entrance and exit to Hades. When the Nihilists visit The Dude in the bathtub, the camera shot is angled so they appear to have three heads. After Walter throws the ringer off the bridge and the nihilists speed off on their motorcycles, the revving engines sound like growling, howling dogs. When the briefcase is stolen and the money is revealed to have never existed, Charon has been denied his payment, so Walter escorts the Dude back to the land of the living and is confronted by Cereberus.
Bunny is a Siren. Bunny is repeatedly shown next to water: the Dude first meets Bunny at the pool, and later watches her in Logjammin' with Sherri, another Siren who "just came over to use the shower.” Later, Bunny crashes her car into the fountain after “visiting friends in Palm Springs.”
Maude is Melinoë, the bringer of nightmares and madness. Maude appears in both of The Dude's dreams and hallucinations. In the Dude’s first dream, the Dude chases Maude while flying, but the dream becomes a nighmare about falling. The Dude's second dream also features Maude and ends with a terrifying nightmare. Melinoë is a moon nymph, so Maude always appears at night, in dim light or shade, or in The Dude's dreams.
Jackie Treehorn is Hades; his thugs are Thatanos and Hypnos. The Dude meets Jackie at his beach party with a fire in the background; the beach and crashing waves represent Oceanus, the border between the lands of the living and the dead. Jackie's house is a cave-like dwelling, where Jackie puts The Dude to sleep.
Another possibility is The Big Lebowski is Hades, since Melinoë (Maude) is his daughter. Bunny could be Persephone, the consort of Hades, but… aw hell, I'm ramblin' again. A wiser fella than myself can and should write more about the connections between The Big Lebowski and Greek underworld mythology. But it’s a pretty good theory, don’tcha think? Well, thatabout wraps ‘er up. Catchya later on down the trail.
AllegedlyGoodPerson@reddit
Is this your homework, Larry?
UndesiredPlatypus@reddit
We're gonna cut your dick off, Larry
yankeeteabagger@reddit
We know this is your tablet Larry.
CallsYouCunt@reddit
This is the hardest I’ve laughed in this sub. Bravo. This whole fucking thing.
ZealousidealLack299@reddit
This thread regularly and legitimately makes my day and life better.
TowerOfSisyphus@reddit
We know it's his homework, where's the fucking obols you little brat?!?
wongo@reddit
Is that your chariot out front?!
MrBark@reddit
Just ask him about the car, man.
jadedlens00@reddit
This is what happens, Larry!
NathanArizona@reddit
Oh no he has helt problems
blasto2236@reddit
Anyone here ever read Two Gentlemen of Lebowski? Rewrites the entire script in Shakespearean English. It’s great, and kind of amazing how much it just naturally feels like a Shakespeare play when framed that way.
Fun_Chef134@reddit
Yes! I fell in love with this movie in 2003, read the Shakespearean play in 2004 and it made me realize just how perfect TBL’s plot actually is. I don’t think I could have appreciated just how many ins and outs and whathaveyous there are in the movie without reading the story set in the Middle Ages. So cool!
HipsterSamuraiJack@reddit
Read Act 1, this is just fuckin brilliant! I'd watch this acted out in a play in a heartbeat!
Bourbonmmm@reddit
Everything’s a fucking Greek tragedy with you, man!
LostAvengence@reddit
Im weak af
YoullBeFiiine@reddit
It wouldn't suprise me if the Coen brothers wrote those allusions intentionally considering O Brother Where Art Thou is just a retelling of The Odyssey.
N0tN0w0k@reddit
Well it would surprise me a lot I like to believe this script was written in a flow state rather then meticulously put together
Third_Most@reddit
Were you listening to the Dude's story?
Bonerstubbone@reddit
I was bowlin'...
fergehtabodit@reddit
I was too busy occupying administration buildings and smoking Thai stick
BigConstruction4247@reddit
What was all that shit about the Peloponnesian War??!!
warbastard@reddit
In your wisdom, Hades, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young men at Sphacteria, at Mantinea , at Naupactus. These young men gave their lives.
Agile_End_3049@reddit
This had not occurred to us, Dude.
Fun_Chef134@reddit
New shit has come to light, man!
Gym_Dom@reddit
I thought Melinoë was created for Hades II
allusium@reddit
Are you employed, sir?
Scott_1580@reddit
Employed?
One_Law_2443@reddit
You don't go out looking for a job dressed like that, do you? On a weekday?
ONLYallcaps@reddit
Not in ‘Nam, of course.
Mustaaaaaaaaaaaarrd@reddit
There is actually some scholarly work looking at this https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-39895-2_2
Genghis_John@reddit
Far out, man. Far fucking out!
JimmyTango@reddit
Say what you will about Homer’s Odyssey, at least it’s an epic.
usbekchslebxian@reddit
My thinking about this case has become very uptight
WallyLeftshaw@reddit
Duder’s epic got a little dinged up
MoneyCock@reddit
Is OP a Coen bro?
deadman8@reddit
T
scrotanimus@reddit
You need a coin to cross the River Styx? I’ll get you a coin by 3pm.
PlatoDiedLonely@reddit
With polish
TehHugMonster@reddit
Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov
noneedforanamee@reddit
Who gives a shit!? They're gonna kill that poor woman!
angryshib@reddit
Oh, that POOR WOMAN
Aggravating_Speed665@reddit
What in God's holy name are you blathering about?!
angryshib@reddit
8 year olds, dude.
MaxHiggins@reddit
Yeah, well, that's just like, your opinion, man.
forged21@reddit
This is all funny business but the Coen Brothers movie O Brother Where Art Thou is just a modern Odyssey
HealthyBullfrog@reddit
I'm Odudeysseus. So that's what you call me.
hotpastr@reddit
This is what happens when you find a stranger within a forest dark.
Puzzleheaded-Ad-3492@reddit
Sam Elliott also played Virgil (Earp) in Tombstone…
whererusteve@reddit
There isn't a literal connection...
GrumpyCatStevens@reddit
What in God's holy name are you blathering about?
High_Af_Osrs@reddit
Hades 2 is awesome.
cassimiro04@reddit
Who is Larry?
Gambit3le@reddit
Dante: "I'm not even supposed to be here today!"
Haunting_Ant_5061@reddit
Veronica Lebowski: “I’ll suck your cock 37 times for $1000…Randal can’t watch though, or he has to pay $100.”
Scott_1580@reddit
Try not to suck any cock on your way through the parking lot.
decompressed81@reddit
In a row?
bustanut_dabmaster@reddit
Is this a… what day is this?
DatSauceTho@reddit
Oooh separate incidents!
TowerOfSisyphus@reddit
This is not the guy who navigates the fucking River Styx here, this is the guy who peed on my --
pm_me_flowers_please@reddit
Someone peed on your rug, Dante?
Scott_1580@reddit
That's fucking interesting, man.
Dear_Captain_8932@reddit
Cerberus is an amateur?
carnitascronch@reddit
New shit has come to light!
SirBabiez@reddit
Huh, WTF, Donny!!
useless_modern_god@reddit
The story is ludicrous
acousticat@reddit
Look, I'm sorry your mother is a nympho...
shotgun_shaun@reddit
We'll go there after the whathaveyou here
sax6romeo@reddit
You told Brandt on the phone, Brandt told me, I know what happened, yes, yes?
bustanut_dabmaster@reddit
Leads. 😂
_Pliny_@reddit
This had not occurred to us, Dude.
Charles-Headlee@reddit
Indiana Jones and The Raiders of The Lost Ark is the same, but Lucas/Spielberg wanted the viewer to be Dante and Indy as Virgil. At least that's what I got from it.
hornwalker@reddit
Dante was christian mythology though and very little to do with the Greek’s take on hades.
You’re out of your element! D.A. Alighier, Durante di Alighiero degli Alighier!
Those rich fucks! This whole fucking
thing-- I did not watch my buddies
die and face down the seven circles of Hell so that
this fucking OP….
userwithusername@reddit
There’s a literal connection.
Proper-Actuary5623@reddit
O brother, where art thought is Odyssey.
HippoIllustrious2389@reddit
This is good. Do Oh Brother Where Art Though as Homer’s Odyssey next
BrutalismForEveryone@reddit
Why is everything always such a fucking travesty with you, man?
thefruitsofzellman@reddit
Discontinue the Thai stick.
TowerOfSisyphus@reddit
'Course, I can't say I seen Tartarus, and I never been to Asphodel, and I ain't never seen no queen Persephone in her damn undies as the fella says.
hornwalker@reddit
Man in the black toga. Worthy fuckin’ adversary.
JD-Moose@reddit
TowerOfSisyphus@reddit
Melinoë: "Jeffrey! Love me!"
TowerOfSisyphus@reddit
(And yes that's a gif from Hades 2, the game I'm currently obsessed with, now made 1000% better by it's connections to TBL).
LTetsuo41@reddit
Death to Chronos!
TowerOfSisyphus@reddit
Into Darkness, NOW.
SeaBag8211@reddit
This isn't the guy that built the underworld here
msb06c@reddit
What in gods holy name are you blathering about?
kamikazekaktus@reddit
Things have come to light
ProperCap5400@reddit
And a very good evening to you, sir!
Greater-Scope@reddit
That had not occurred to us, dude.
Old_Interaction_9009@reddit
Hoc accidit cum peregrinum in tergo stupri
cabosmith@reddit
AdOdd4618@reddit
Well, there isn't a literal connection
sonofabitch@reddit
.
Patman52@reddit
8th circle of hell dude, 8th
dhlthecobra@reddit
The fuck are you talking about?
- Coen brothers probably
Coattail-Rider@reddit
They’re either thinking “Ummmm, sure. That’s….totally what we had in mind” or “Goddamn, it only took you morons 30 years and a new way to converse with people across the world over any number of topics.”
-SQB-@reddit
Well, O Brother, Where Art Thou? was loosely based on or at least inspired by Homerus' Odyssey, so...
ocherthulu@reddit
Also featuring Sirens (and a Cyclops)
TowerOfSisyphus@reddit
A lotta strands to keep in my head, man. Lotta strands in old Duder's--
ocherthulu@reddit
A lot of Thai stick?
TowerOfSisyphus@reddit
Lord Hades said I could take any rug in the house.
IsThereARe-Do@reddit
This is either brilliant or I’ve been drinking. Both are true. New sh!t has come to light, man.
TowerOfSisyphus@reddit
Bah's ova theyah
blaiddunigol@reddit
That’s fucking interesting man.
onlyforobservation@reddit
That had Not occurred to us, Dude.
MarkItZeroDonnie@reddit
This isn’t purgatory Dude , there are verses
Ludologistic@reddit
Well, there isn't a literary connection.
But if you want that Homer bullshit, you could just watch O Brother...
Next_Dragonfruit_415@reddit
Dante, Dante Alighieri
Ludologistic@reddit
We thought you was a TOAD 🐸
Silent_Medicine1798@reddit
Makes a lot of sense if you look at another Cohen Bros film, o Brother Where Art Thou
smittydacobra@reddit
So...is Jackie Treehorn Hades, or is Jeffrey Lebowski (big) Hades?
HomelessHercules@reddit
Did you ever hear of the Coen brother? That was me... and one other guy.
LawnStar@reddit
I'm not Dante, I'm Jeff Lebowski
Haunting_Ant_5061@reddit
That’s your name dude.
sbowden99@reddit
Well, I dig your style too, man. Got the whole western cultural canon thing goin'.
RoundTiberius@reddit
Mind if I do a J?
xNicR@reddit
Bummer man
bijzonderzaadje@reddit
What the fuck are you talking about? Inferno is not the issue here.
AnalBlowout@reddit
I am the walrus
xNicR@reddit
Shut the fuck up Donny
Easy_Dinner_6187@reddit
Larry!
R_Similacrumb@reddit
Bulk of the series...
duck4129@reddit
We're all very fond of the story.
Kettle_Whistle_@reddit
Were you even listening to Virgil’s story?
Kettle_Whistle_@reddit
New shit has come to light, man.
KarlHungusWonAnOscar@reddit
Sorotmotor you're out of your element
Dull_Investigator358@reddit
"What are you, a fucking lone ranger now?"
Safe-Ad5267@reddit
Very allegorical, the sacred and the propane
Apprehensive-Bite373@reddit
That had not occurred to us, Dude.
Karn_Evil_Noin@reddit
What’s that, like some kind of Eastern thing?
Amity_Swim_School@reddit
Is this some fucking eastern thing?
CaptainDread@reddit
Far from it.
Kind_Battle_2362@reddit
Huge fans... truly a source of inspiration.
Rizos28@reddit
That's fucking interesting, man. That's fucking interesting.
allusium@reddit
Are you employed, sir?
OnlyHalfBrilliant@reddit
Lotta ins, lotta outs, lotta what-have-yous...
skichip@reddit
Much like O Brother, Where Art Thou is based on The Odyssey.
johndoe515@reddit
What are you a fucking classics professor now?
LawnStar@reddit
Hide the rug, Lucifer's log jammin' again.
beersngears@reddit
Hmmm
tplatt15@reddit
Forget it Dante you're out of your element
blarg-zilla@reddit
Far out, man
Bourbonmmm@reddit
I’VE NEVER BEEN MORE CERTAIN OF ANYTHING IN MY LIFE, Dude.
samhapache@reddit
Well, that’s just like, your opinion, man.
frankthetank8558@reddit
Were you listening to the dudes story?
Jay_Mazz@reddit
Bulk of the series, dude.
Commercial-Act2813@reddit
Shut the fuck up, Donny
Im_WinstonWolfe@reddit
Beyond the quotes, this actually makes sense. I've never been more certain of anything in my life.
CommitteeNice4693@reddit
I've neved been more certain of anything in my life
Present-Ad-4006@reddit