Rising seas will swallow New Orleans. People need to start relocating now, scientists say

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hudsoncress@reddit

Holland would beg to differ. All you need is socialis… never mind. Everyone flee before you die.

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vintagerust@reddit

They wouldn't replace pipes in Flint Michigan, they aren't going to keep pumping new Orleans out.

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But they did replace the pipes in Flint. It was a pretty serious effort that took a lot of work from a lot of people. Granted, it did take quite a while and then there's still the whole aspect of accountability (or lack thereof) from the people responsible for the problem in the first place, but as far as I'm aware Flint has pretty much been re-piped as of a few years ago.

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BeneficialTrash6@reddit

Not only did they replace the lead pipes, they also replaced a bunch of perfectly good non-lead pipes because people complained that their pipes weren't being replaced. Flint probably could've replaced the lead pipes a lot quicker (years earlier) if they had the balls to tell people with non-lead pipes to pound sand.

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Artistic-Salary1738@reddit

New Orleans has value for tourism, Flint not so much. More likely to support the rich/profitable parts of the city at least.

I support clean water for everyone, the fact places like Flint don’t have safe water is embarrassing for a so called first world nation.

I also support saving the historical parts of New Orleans, but that’s more about protecting cultural heritage.

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Empty-Interaction796@reddit

Also the port on the Mississippi

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DieselPunkPiranha@reddit

Lake Tahoe is also touristy, but they just found out they'll have 75% of their power to an AI center next year. New Orleans is doomed just like Florida, Amsterdam, Venice, and a sizeable chunk of London.

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A012A012@reddit

Thr U.S. is just a third world country with good PR.

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Enough-Average-2545@reddit

Or, maybe just bring natural selection back?

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Rods-from-God@reddit

In another lifetime, perhaps, someone would’ve had the gumption to terraform the area around New Orleans taking inspiration from the Dutch, and it’d have been revered as an American marvel.

That era of American history is over though. We’re into the “self-inflicted atrocities” arc now.

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danielledelacadie@reddit

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SquirrelyMcNutz@reddit

Just gotta move the town five miles down the road.

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danielledelacadie@reddit

I grew up near King's Landing in New Brunswick (a living museum the size of a village). When the local dam was being built more than 70 buildings were moved.

New Orleans, your Northern Appalachian cousins in Acadie managed it, you can too

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TernarySquare0123@reddit

You'll find the Cajuns more to the west... and up on stilts! They've already got this one figured out.

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danielledelacadie@reddit

Good! Go tell the city folks!

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RelativePea8217@reddit

The racial demographics of Holland and New Orleans are completely opposite.

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Potential4752@reddit

Holland does not have hurricanes.

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ommnian@reddit

Holland is not the same. Florida and new Orleans sit on limestone - CaCo3, which is porous. You can build walls as high as you want, and you still won't hold back the water. It will just come up from below.

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raptoroftimeandspace@reddit

Gotta push back on this a little as a New Orleanian; Florida is sat over limestone bedrock. Nola is sitting on top of about 600-900 feet of silty mud deposited by the river. It’s why over the decades as we’ve gotten better at pumping the water out, parts of the city are actually sinking due to subsidence. Pumping out the water means that the silt compacts more, bringing those areas further below sea level.

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The_Demolition_Man@reddit

Socialism is when the government does stuff huh

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vintagerust@reddit

Socialism is where the government helps working people. Capitalism is where the government helps the rich and bails them out if they took a risky bet and lost.

Privatize the profits, socialize the losses as the rich say.

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The_Demolition_Man@reddit

Thats not what either of those words mean lol

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vintagerust@reddit

But that's what happens.

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Rods-from-God@reddit

Clearly. Socialism is Satanic Communism, and Capitalism is Christian, of course.

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Strong_Quarter_9349@reddit

obviously, but it's what happens anyway

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ABoutDeSouffle@reddit

I guess that was sarcasm.

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EternalNewCarSmell@reddit

tbf Holland had that stuff before socialism. All you need is a functional society and government.

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No_Possible_7108@reddit

Like they said, everyone flee before you die!

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oldandbald123@reddit

But that is socialism!

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oldandbald123@reddit

Back to the pile everybody

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smellswhenwet@reddit

Oh, like when we were told the earth was going to freeze back in the’70s?

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IntoTheCommonestAsh@reddit

Not by scientists, you weren't. That was 100% a media fabrication.

And now you're not believing the actual experts because you got got in the 70's? That's not logical.

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FrontlineYeen@reddit

I hope you dont have the right to vote

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KingMario05@reddit

Yes. And how are they going to get the money needed to do so? We need real support systems in this country, and we need them now.

(Yes, FEMA did count. Except Biden ignored folks with it, while Trump wants to starve it to death. Either way, it's now fucked. Good job.)

362,000 souls are still there. Millions more in the surrounding metro. Forgive me if I think we should be offering them a little bit more helpful advice than "move out or just drown I guess."

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thefedfox64@reddit

I ask this basically every hurricane. How are we going to get the money to do so, each hurricane is more expensive than the last, even if it does overall less damage.

How many hurricanes does it take before its too much? How many times does FEMA have to bail out the same house, the same street, the same neighborhood, before...3 times? 5? 8?

How many times do you need to have your home destroyed, and rebuilt before we as a society go, yea ok...next time no dice.

And if we did do your suggestion, let's say we start with the 320,000 and say here, market value for your home. Are you OK saying, and if you want to stay, thats on you. No rescue, no insurance, no recoup, no FEMA, nada, dont call, no one is coming?

We need a little more than just, Andrew, Betty, Chris, Debbie, Edward....let's keep going....Monica, Nancy....and going....Tim, Uther...and going...Andy, Brandy...and going

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CriticalCold@reddit

This would require massive structural change. Yes, instinctively it feels logical to say that if someone's home is being repeatedly destroyed, or an area is going to become uninhabitable due to massive forces like climate change, there's a limit to how much we can help if they refuse to leave.

But people in "safer" areas, like the Great Lakes region, are already struggling and seeing the housing prices in those areas skyrocket. There aren't enough jobs, houses, services for anyone in any part of the country. Our government is dismantling safety nets and shoving the economy, the environment, and the housing market into a hellish void. People who are already poor as shit who live in places like New Orleans, or parts of Florida, or wherever, have no real recourse.

Let's say we give them market value for their house - does that money allow them to buy a house in a more stable area? Where do they get the money to actually move on top of the cost of the house itself, the interest on the mortgage, the incredible social, familial and career cost of completely uprooting their lives and moving somewhere new? When they get there, are there jobs for them? Considering there aren't enough jobs for the people who live in my large city in the Great Lakes region, the answer is no. Do they have family there to help them with childcare, illness, basic shit like a ride to the airport? Considering housing costs, rent costs, healthcare costs, childcare costs, transportation costs, FOOD costs are skyrocketing here year over year just like everywhere else in this country, it's absurd for us to say the government should just buy out their house and say "good luck, champ! if you don't start over completely, whatever happens to you is your fault!"

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thefedfox64@reddit

I unserstand that, but you say it is a barrier that millions of people have not cross for a better life. Immigrants of all types for decades have done it. Left everything. Maybe your home was 4 bedrooms, and now its 3, or 2.

Will it suck today, and for a week or year of several years sure. Overall is it a net positive, yes. (Why I said 15% above market value).

And we as a society cant fix everything, ans we cant make everyone happy. Hell we cant even make most happy.

And that doesnt even measure to normal life, what are the chances they get laid off, or have medical expenses that wipe them out. Pretty freaking high (especially for those impoverished). Lets say the great lakes, Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Indianapolis, Madison, St.Paul, Minneapolis, tons of places.

Finally, you ask where they are going to get the money for these things. Where are we going to get the money to keep paying for it? Like honestly why is it always ok to rebuild and spent 3 or 4 times that for those areas in a decade that 1 time? Thats my issue, for you, personally. How much is too much? You cant change the system, you cant make people less greedy. So how much money do we have to spend before you go, yea thats it...this is ridiclious no more.

But that too is the reality for everyone else, we live in a society that does get a say, and the harder things are, like life (waves arms around looking at everything) the less inclined people are to help others, and the more frustrated they become. Its kinda the conversative graph. The tight shit is, the more people are taxed, the higher stress they are, the more conversative they become.

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CriticalCold@reddit

My city has experienced flooding, but it's minor compared to most places. The biggest effects have been warmer weather and heavier storms. Because we're on the lake, water shortage isn't a problem (yet? Who knows what crazy shit will happen in the future). If I lose my job and don't find something right away, you're right, I'm fucked financially. But I have family and friends here, professional connections, and know the area and the places hiring well. If I'm unable to work, my family and friends would help me. If I lose my job, the bosses, coworkers, and mentors I've gained over the years will try to leverage their connections in their companies to help me find a new one. If I'm on the verge of homelessness, I have people who will take me in.

If I had to move to, say, Boston, and find a new job and a new place to live, I would have none of that. I'd have to do everything completely from scratch, and yes, immigrants do that every day, but there's a reason why most immigrants are trapped in a cycle of poverty. The world is different now, life is harder as you say, and it's not realistic to expect anyone to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps". This isn't just "oh, now your house is smaller" this is "oh, now you don't own a house, might not be able to buy a new one, and might lose earning potential overall".

Zillow says the average home value in New Orleans is about $245,000. In Minneapolis, it's $335,000. Chicago is around the same. Madison, WI is $430,000. Grand Rapids, MI is $310,000. Milwaukee, WI is the best of the bunch I looked up, at $230,000, but none of those numbers even take into account the insane markets in those places, or how the average is pulled down by the cheap houses in the violent, high crime areas with terrible schools. The midwest is becoming a place people want to live, and I know locals who have been looking for houses in all of those areas who have to waive inspections, pay in cash, offer tens of thousands above asking, etc., get the downpayment from their parents, just to watch houses in the not shithole neighborhoods get 30 offers the day they go on the market. If any of those places got a sudden influx of climate refugees, do you think buying a house there will get easier? And you could argue people should just live in like, Peoria or Beloit, but those places - shockingly - do not have any jobs.

And I agree that it isn't tenable to keep these giant population centers in Arizona, or Florida, or Louisiana, but massive migration from those population centers is a hell of a lot more complicated than "buy out their houses and tell them to move to these safe zones". And yeah, sometimes people are just fucking stupid. There are people moving out to the southwest despite multiple cities scrambling to figure out how the fuck they're going to keep from running out of drinking water, or people building new houses in Miami. But what's the cost of a human life? Is it ever acceptable to say "we're not going to spend this money on you, we're not going to try to protect you, these places are officially abandoned by the government and we'll let you die"?

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thefedfox64@reddit

Woo Milwaukee (Kenosha here, still got them bedbug problems, that's all I hear from my friends who have apartments DT)

If you are genuinely asking if it's ok for the Government to say, " We will let you die." Yeah, unfortunately, it is. In some cases, we'd want them to help; in others, there isn't much we can do other than spend money (and that is at times cost-prohibitive). I'm sure you can think of examples where it's just untenible to help people (those refusing to help, those doing things that they shouldn't, those doing things they know are dangerous). I couldn't blanket it to be like, yes, we will always help/save you. (a certain submarine comes to mind)

I do think you brought up some good situations, about water and such. There are times there are bigger fish to fry, and we can't be everywhere/doing everything. We should be helping as many people as possible, but also understanding that sometimes things fall through the cracks, and we can't help/save everyone.

Since I answered, but I'm wondering if you'd be (unless I missed it) ok addressing how much money for you is too much on these efforts?

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Glittering_Set6017@reddit

The way some of you think people can just pick up their entire lives and move is ridiculous. There's a lot of generational poverty in New Orleans. People also have jobs, families, kids, etc that doesn't make it easy to just go. You need money, resources, jobs, community, to make that happen. Blaming people instead of systems is insane.

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thefedfox64@reddit

You act like taxpayers cant critize anything because of what? Like, how much money is enough? Just tell me, how much for you is enough? 3 trillion, 4? This cant be a unstoppable hole here.

We have literally bailed out those states for your, mine, and everyone elses entire lives, and we can't ask for a change? What happened to no taxation without representation? Cause we dont live there we dont get a say? After the what, 7 or 8 time in the last 2 decades of the same homes being destroyed, that somehow is ok to just throw more and more money at.

Also, yea I do think people can pick up there lives and move. I dont know where this imaginary hurtle comes from, but whats easier, moving or having your home destroyed for the 3rd time in 8 years? I do it for a living, and see people face the same shit where moving would make all the difference, but that involves them working. Millions if not billions of people have done it, and continue to do it. Stop shitting on them because people in hurricane states won't.

We dont need any of the times you mentioned except money. Blab all you want, but there is a price for everyone, and while I think it should be fair, I dont think it should be unreasonable. Most if not all of them would sell in a heartbeat if offered the right price. And you can bemoan family legacies, and sentimental places, but we cant price sentimentality.

Id be willing to pay that out, 15% above market price, tax free. Most would take it, and the remaining %, that dont, thats the deal. You can stay, but we arent rebuilding, or saving you, or anything. Hell, keep the money too. Just know we have done what we could for the last 100+ years, and we as a society can no longer afford to do so.

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Glittering_Set6017@reddit

1-you are criticizing individuals. Our taxes fund systems so you don't get to decide who is helped or not helped after a disaster. And 2-I'm not arguing with people who don't have a baseline understanding of how poverty and racism has shaped how places like New Orleans have ended up the way they did.

You have to have pathways. Just handing someone money and thinking that's going to fix it shows how woefully ignorant you are.

I would recommend you look at the work Urban institute is doing, watch"when the levees broke" and read There is No Such Thing as a Natural Disaster and Race, Place, and Environmental Justice after Hurricane Katrina before trying to communicate with me any further about this.

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CriticalCold@reddit

It's baffling to me. Yes, people in New Orleans have to deal with the realities of climate change and many of them are in horrific cycles of poverty and racism, so the instinct might be "fuck it, why don't they just move?" But even if you're dirt broke, in a shitty house, dealing with flooding, if you've lived in a place your whole life (and especially if your family has been there for generations!) you have a support network. You have a COMMUNITY. Like, the thing people on prepping subs are constantly saying is the best prep! If you're sick, or can't afford food, or can't find a job, there are people you've known your whole life who can help you!

If you sell your house (assuming you have one and can find a buyer, assuming it's nice enough and well-maintained enough to fetch its maximum value, etc.), then you have to find a new place to live that is 1) far away, if your aim is to avoid the ravages of climate change in Louisiana 2) probably way more expensive than the house you sold, because housing markets in areas considered "safer" from climate change are a fucking nightmare 3) in a place disconnected from that support system.

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Mouthshitter@reddit

https://i.redd.it/lgtupptnnp3h1.gif

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NightSail@reddit

I remember reading a Scientific American article in the 70's talking New Orleans and the risk of being destroyed by hurricane storm surge.

My spouse was born there and left as soon as he was an adult because he said it was unsafe.

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Gimli-Painter@reddit

quietly hums The Tragically Hip

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Shydale-for-House@reddit

To be fair this was eventually going to happen with or without climate change anyway.

The Mighty Mississip has been trying to wiggle around for years now and it's taken pretty much the full might of the Army Corp of Engineers to hold it back this long. Once it finally does, it's going to devastate the river shipping routes, everything along those routes, uncountable numbers of homes up and down and it's going to pretty much wipe New Orleans off the map as well.

We've known about this for a pretty long time and nobody has really wanted to do anything about it.

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KoreyYrvaI@reddit

Yeah, anyone who knows the history of the Great Raft knows what those rivers are capable of when they move. Honestly, I'm guessing the infrastructure keeping the Red River from drowning the western half of the state is just as precarious.

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No_Possible_7108@reddit

Can you elaborate on the wiggly river? Trying to reroute itself? And if that is the case, any chance we know of how drastic/catastrophic the changes will be in the short term?

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WormLivesMatter@reddit

Google River avulsion if you want a why answer. It’s the process of a river changing course and is very natural.

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Daxx22@reddit

Also the answer when people ask "Why did they build the pyramids out in the desert!"

A: The Nile moves, and it wasn't desert when they built them!

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Comfortable_Clue1572@reddit

The Mississippi River is one of a class of “meandering” rivers. Without human intervention, they fill their channels with silt over time. They frequently change channels as this process continues.

Once restricted by levies, the channel has to be constantly dredged and the levies raised to prevent the inevitable consequences. As the channels and levies rise, costs to maintain them spirals upward. The potential for catastrophic destruction also rises exponentially.

Levies are one of the oldest forms of civil engineering and community development. Rivers are older, vastly more patient and powerful. There is no doubt that the Mississippi will eventually take back every inch of ground we took from it. When? Whenever it decides to.

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Tornadic_Outlaw@reddit

nobody has really wanted to do anything about it.

You mean like building the Old River Control Structure and Auxiliary River Control Structure to prevent that from happening? Not to mention the countless levees built along the river. But yeah, they really haven't done anything about it.

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JT3436@reddit

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reedmanisback@reddit

As someone who lives in a state that has minor flooding, I've been debating about getting a small boat or kayak.

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GinAndDumbBitchJuice@reddit

Do it. Good skill to have, opens up some nice outdoor time for you. But make sure you're confident before the flooding happens.

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formerNPC@reddit

But they keep rebuilding like it’s the last time they’ll have to do it. After I had major flooding after a hurricane on the east coast I decided that I would never live on the water again. You have to know when to walk away.

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busted_maracas@reddit

Look at Miami - new constructions still going up all the time. People have been warning about the dangers of building there for almost a century. It’s a swamp where buildings were manufactured under a bedrock of swiss cheese. Seems like a bad idea to try and “wall off the ocean” from a place that’s incapable of dealing with the sea…

And yet.

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superanth@reddit

Florida has a bleak future ahead of it. Most of the peninsula will be submerged once the sea level rise gets going. I’m thinking Disney World will be the only noteworthy thing left there when it’s done.

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Daxx22@reddit

I’m thinking Disney World will be the only noteworthy thing left there when it’s done.

They will literally become their own Pleasure Island.

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superanth@reddit

Personally I miss the Pleasure Island that got shut down a while back. Fu)king Iger...

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formerNPC@reddit

It’s also about who can afford to keep rebuilding and who can’t. The wealthy don’t care because they don’t rely on insurance they just start over using their own vast resources. It’s the average homeowner who ends up with a worthless piece of property who is lucky to just give it away. I’ve been there before and I had to give my home back to the bank because I couldn’t afford to make all the repairs. If you can’t afford to rebuild your home from top to bottom then stay away from the flood zones.

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random-khajit@reddit

eventually the insurance companies with make that decision for them

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Comfortable_Clue1572@reddit

Didn’t they already do that in FL?

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KianOfPersia@reddit

Important to note that several sections of New Orleans are already below sea level and the only reason they aren’t underwater is because of levees.

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NotFallacyBuffet@reddit

Reading this lying on my couch in the Eighth Ward, New Orleans. The center of my street is 1' below sea level. I'm not very worried.

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fragrant-final-973@reddit

A lot of people weren't very worried about Katrina either.

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NotFallacyBuffet@reddit

My house sits 4½ above the street, or 3½ ft above sea level. When I built it (with my own hands) 10 years ago (on a lot that became vacant from Katrina), I did some back-of-envelope calculations and built higher than expected sea rise over the next 80 years or so. Sea-riss rate has increased since then, but I'm still good for the rest of my life. Katrina flood water (so, essentially sea level) was at most 18 inches on my block according to neighbors.

I'm currently working toward a completely off-grid power supply. I'm not too worried.

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CriticalCold@reddit

Your house might be fine, but what about the street that gets to your house? What about the rest of the neighborhood? How do you get to the grocery store, or the hospital? What about all of the services and businesses that will cease to function if the city is slowly flooding? It almost sounds like you think you can just live in your unflooded house and never leave it for any reason for years at a time.

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Daxx22@reddit

You might be fine, but that's a situation where I'd be more worried about your neighbours/surroundings. Ever see a life raft surrounded by a crowd of people in the water?

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flamingspew@reddit

This is why my long term stock play is industrial scale water pump manufacturers and the companies that make their components and water purification tech.

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Throwawayconcern2023@reddit

For real? Give us a few names to emulate. A rising tide of success lifts all ships.

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flamingspew@reddit

Some easy ones are XYL and PHO.

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Throwawayconcern2023@reddit

Ty.

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Ridonius_Maximus@reddit

Those long term time charts look pretty good

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GoodBoundaries-Haver@reddit

What are you invested in?

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Idobro@reddit

Spoken by the confidence of someone with a boat

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Hesitation-Marx@reddit

He said he had a couch, yes

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Waytooboredforthis@reddit

Double decker couch would be even better

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TerraCetacea@reddit

🎶EVERYTHING IS AWFULLLLL🎵

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True_mourning84@reddit

💀💀💀

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Ridonius_Maximus@reddit

What he didn’t say is his couch is inside a boat, parked in the Eighth Ward.

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freesoloc2c@reddit

It was a terrible place to build a city in the first place.

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Solo_Camping_Girl@reddit

Well, it could be worse. At least, New Orleans ain't sinking a couple of inches a year like some other cities in other countries. But yeah, I'd be trying to relocate the moment I can get. Warmer seas are a breeding ground for stronger hurricanes.

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No_Possible_7108@reddit

Mexico City's sinking (if that's the one you are referring to) apparently isnt a super huge concern to scientists there. There was a story about it that barely got any attention about a week after the big doompost about how MC is sinking

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Solo_Camping_Girl@reddit

Not just Mexico City, but other cities in Southeast Asia as well, especially Manila where I'm in. Hardly anybody's raising concerns here and I think it should be given more attention. Several places are already flooded all year round come high tide. If we can't relocate, I might invest in kayaks and sand bags soon.

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Daxx22@reddit

Literally BILLIONS of mostly poor people live in costal areas that are going to be affected by this globally. The coming forced migration/crisis is just... incomprehensible.

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HewSpam@reddit

Well no one could have seen that coming it’s not like that entire city has been under the ocean before

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JamesRawles@reddit

End of the century? Very optimistic

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Tyjet66@reddit

Should have evacuated right after Katrina to be honest

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cinciNattyLight@reddit

I went there back in 2022 and there were still blue tarps on a lot of houses…

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Tonsilith_Salsa@reddit

What brand of tarp? That's incredible.

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pin5npusher5@reddit

I had an idea: houses made from those blue tarps! They last for thousands of years!

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InfiniteWaffles58364@reddit

They already have those. We call em tents

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fragrant-final-973@reddit

And soon enough there will be entire cities full of them.

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Daxx22@reddit

Have you seen LA? We are kinda there already in a lot of urban areas.

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msreciprocity@reddit

From Ida, the Category 4 in 2021.

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Wytch78@reddit

That was from Ida I think.

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KyleAg06@reddit

correct

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random5654@reddit

Probably right before if we're playing that game

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Wytch78@reddit

A lot of people did.

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Zestyclose_Art_2806@reddit

If only we could have seen it coming

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roamingroad174@reddit

7th ward getting fucked again.

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Due_Will_2204@reddit

9 Ward worse.

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WadeBronson@reddit

This is intel, i support it. That said, i also have to point out that nearly every sensationalist article that comes to mind over the last 30 years about the fears of anthropogenic climate change has not come to fruition.

Anthropogenic climate change is real. It happens daily with the destruction of habitats to support our endless pursuit of increasing gdp. Each new wind farm, solar farm, data center, shopping center, housing development, etc. drastically impacts the micro climates around those areas, killing and/or mass displacing the natural habitats of the animals that live there, and along the waterfronts affected by this expansionist principle.

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Hi_InternetAddiction@reddit

they've been claiming the seas are rising since at least the 90's and not an inch has been recorded.

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dak-sm@reddit

https://earth.gov/sealevel/us/national-sea-level-explorer/?state=LA&scope=section_1

You can do better. Look at actual data and banish your ignorance.

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reedmanisback@reddit

Let them wallow in their ignorance.

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Hi_InternetAddiction@reddit

dont you know the government is full of shit? you can do better.

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dak-sm@reddit

So you dismiss data without any stronger evidence? How Reddit of you!

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Hi_InternetAddiction@reddit

at this point in my life, all data is suspect.

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Inner-Confidence99@reddit

If they hadn’t done all the redirecting of the Mississippi River new Orleans would be bigger land mass. Built up from the sediment, sand, dirt from the River. But progress destroyed what nature built. Had family in New Orleans from the 1960s until Katrina. They said every land mass got smaller each year. There are islands around people don’t talk about because they have been gone 40 years underwater or more.

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dnhs47@reddit

Not to worry, our Republican pals have been confidently insisting for years - decades, really - that this "climate change" stuff is a bunch of hippy bullshit. It's not real! Nothing to worry about!

As 100-year floods and such happen every other year, and Pacific Northwest cities like Seattle and Portland experience higher temperatures than Las Vegas ever has (that was several years ago). Just normal variation in the weather, nothing to worry about!

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Decades lost to inaction due to American conservatives' hatred of science. Our grandchildren will pay the price.

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Comfortable_Clue1572@reddit

Oh, the Epstein Class loves science, when they can use it to get rich.

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PhillyFan1977@reddit

CNN is trash. The last place to find any ounce of truth

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fragrant-final-973@reddit

Found the OAN simp.

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No-Complex-9159@reddit

I don't trust Cnn it's the liberal version of Fox News which I also don't listen too. Two sides of the same coin.

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fragrant-final-973@reddit

There is nothing liberal about CNN anymore. It's just another right wing extremist outlet. You're in a cult.

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Round-Bonus842@reddit

Bro those freaks will die there.

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fragrant-final-973@reddit

What freaks?

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No_Alarm_3993@reddit

To quote my wife, who was born in Baton Rouge, "Its past time to get the hell out of there. Anyone who can, did." What about those who can't?

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Comfortable_Clue1572@reddit

Not everyone will make it. That maxim applies to Donner Pass, the Oregon Trail, and the Mississippi River. Some WON’T leave. They’re willing to risk their lives, and their families lives to stay put.

The broken system puts those who have little to gain from channeling the river at the greatest risk of the eventual disaster when the river breaks free.

Who was it who said: “The rich will kill you for money”?

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No_Possible_7108@reddit

Houseboats

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krimsonmedic@reddit

New business idea, slumboats. I'm gonna be so rich.

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PrepperBoi@reddit

Best thing I did was move away from that state

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WskyRcks@reddit

Katrina showed us this 25 years ago. 25 years ago!

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SerDuncanonyall@reddit

Had a science teacher tell our class “Mardi gras is really cool, but don’t move there” during our weather unit the year before Katrina. This has been common knowledge for even longer than that.

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portageandmain@reddit

Not to be that guy but technically 21

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WskyRcks@reddit

Fair enough, I was thinking in terms of 0,25,50, or 100, at this point it was almost a quarter of a century ago. People have known for a long long time how unsafe of a place New Orleans is to live. Fun place to go, but nobody should ever be there. It’s kind of like hearing warnings from the star department for US citizens to leave the Middle East…. Two months into a war. Personally I’m like “how are they even still there, do they have any self preservation at all?”

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BusyBanana4205@reddit

Life finds a way…to drown

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twoDuckNight@reddit

Sell their homes to who ben, aquaman?

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grapebeyond227@reddit

The smart ones will sell now while there are still people dumb enough to buy them.

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WeekendQuant@reddit

And the "dumb" ones will hold until the government buys them for 30% above market.

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Cutsman4057@reddit

I understood this reference

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taseaclaiduaim@reddit

Always upvote hbomberguy. What an iconic line

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Hesitation-Marx@reddit

Just about time for me to do my rewatch of his hatred of Sherlock.

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REVENAUT13@reddit

How’s it looking for Pensacola? 😥

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rodimustso@reddit

Just an idea but ... Venice 2.0

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probablyHuman69@reddit

This feels like a shit post. No actionable knowledge. Just a screenshot and likely AI article letting everyone know that what Gore and everyone not paid to say the opposite has been saying for decades.

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ChesterNorris@reddit

The article is attached, it's CNN.

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Worldly-Swing6921@reddit

Oof, this will be the southwest too as water runs out.

Shits gonna get weird.

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Evening-Ad5765@reddit

They literally built the city below sea level and it requires dikes and pumps to stay dry. Has. Thing to do with climate hysteria

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Striper_Cape@reddit

K

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ApedGME@reddit

I love that they used gulf of Mexico. Because thats what it is

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The_Dreadlord@reddit

Stilt houses. They need to build stilt houses.

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Drycabin1@reddit

I’ve never met nicer people than I’ve met here in Louisiana. But the infrastructure is terrible! And people here seem to take it in stride. Like the pumps that are supposed to remove the rainwater fail often, and people just take it in stride even when the water is up to their front porch. Metairie floods at the drop of a hat. We are leaving this year, and I’m relieved.

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Zxvasdfthrowaway@reddit

Oh, that state doesn’t believe in climate change. They’re not concerned.

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ContextEnjoyer69@reddit

Yes, I’m sure that the residents of historically conservative voting Orleans Parish, Louisiana, which this article is about, aren’t concerned about this at all. A whopping 15.2% voted for Trump in 2024, a massive increase from the 15% in 2020 and 14.7% in 2016.

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NotFallacyBuffet@reddit

Yea, we're a blue dot in a red state.

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ContextEnjoyer69@reddit

I dispatched tow trucks for a well known emergency roadside service for the whole state of Louisiana for several years through several hurricanes and other natural disasters. Some of the kindest, most down to earth people I have ever known are from New Orleans. I’ll always have a soft spot for your city and I’ve never even been there.

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Pootscootboogie69@reddit

Not to far off the national opinion considering the current administrations actions.

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TheBetawave@reddit

The Netherlands would like a moment to speak.

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Current-Seaweed-3836@reddit

Alright Bourbon blues on the street, loose and complete Under skies, so smokey blue green I can't forsake a dixie dead-shake So we danced the sidewalk clean My memory is muddy, what's this river that I'm in? New Orleans is sinking, man, and I don't wanna swim

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