The All-New, All-Electric 2027 Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Is a 1,153-HP Hyper-Sedan: Up Close

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rootbeer123@reddit

I wish they'd quit calling all these cars AMG GTs. That name can mean any one of 4 totally different cars now.

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DanielG165@reddit

The power figures do nothing for me, personally. From a design standpoint, the GT 4-door is an ugly duckling. It’s not as offensive as the Luce, but it certainly isn’t a looker.

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FlorydaMan@reddit

Hot take but for me the Mercedes is way uglier.

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I personally like the GT 4 door but you still have to weigh the looks based on other factors. The Luce is supposed to be a $650k Ferrari but it looks like a government-issue econobox. This is not even mentioning its slower than the AMG GT.

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FlorydaMan@reddit

Oh as a Ferrari I hate it with all my heart, it's just that I like that something different is been tried on the industry. The price is absurd, the car sucks and it's not good looking at all, but the Mercedes is all that plus it's tacky and garish, so it's worse for me.

Neither brand has any clue on how to properly execute an electric 4 door.

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SomeJayForToday@reddit

The Ferrari is cohesive, but ugly. The Mercedes is incohesively ugly. Every part of the car looks like it’s designed by another person.

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FlorydaMan@reddit

Very well put.

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projectwar@reddit

This. almost all EV's are faster and more powerful than their gas guzzling counterparts. but realistically, no one is really gonna care which EV is the "fastest". either it has all the features I want and is comfy and has good range, and/or it looks semi-decent and meets a certain price point.

and all these luxury sport cars failed, except the Taycan.

What's the point of having 1k HP but still being a 4 door...like what???

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ssovm@reddit

There are real innovations the AMG GT 4 Door brings that no other car has. It’s a legit track weapon

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strongmanass@reddit

Nobody complained that the Bentley Flying Spur has 771 horsepower and a 208 mph top speed just for the 55 year-old executive to hit adaptive cruise control and listen to The Eagles. Nobody complained that the S63 has 800 horsepower and is sprung stiffer than the 65 year-old after the Viagra kicks in. On the contrary, most people thought it was cool.

It's really just powerful EVs that people have a problem with.

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Thomas_633_Mk2@reddit

Nobody complained that the S63 has 800 horsepower and is sprung stiffer than its 65 year-old owner after the Viagra kicks in.

TBF reviewers have complained about this before, the S-class AMG's fundamentally compromising the comfort an S-class should have in order to make a barge handle 20% better.

That said IMO the real answer is that it makes them heavier and unable to be tuned, and 90% of us only experience driving these cars through racing games. Most of the time with maximum weight reduction installed and the Forza Wing^TM . Games where being an EV is a death sentence 90% of the time, especially Forza where you can't ballast down to a PP limit like in GT7.

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Oh_ffs_seriously@reddit

Eh, I think it looks fine. The front is pretty much previous gen AMG GT with a lightbar, and the rear is far from perfect, but bearable. I think that Countach homage Lamborghini did recently looks worse than that from behind. Shame that nobody talks about the 600kW charging.

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xstreamReddit@reddit

And the light bar is optional

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ssovm@reddit

It’s interesting how many people are so polarized between this 4 door and the current 2 door. They say the former is the ugliest car ever made and the latter is beautiful. But if you compare them side by side, they are not that different.

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ArcticBP@reddit

To me it just needs to get rid of the light between the headlights and make the lower grill less angry-fish-like and it could be pretty good

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xstreamReddit@reddit

The light bars rear and front are options.

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jse000@reddit

This, the Luce, that Jaguar thing...

What the fuck is happening

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Ecstatic_Wishbone609@reddit

You are getting left behind in the horse carriage age. That’s all.

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jse000@reddit

Ah, yes, these cars aren't ugly they're just progressive.

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icona_@reddit

what's happening is just legacy companies having some issues adapting and selling new technology, imo.

tesla, rivian, xiaomi for example can unapologetically make EVs their identity and design one that does whatever they want. ferrari, mercedes, jaguar have decades of history built around entirely different technology with different features and downsides, and customers who expect those things. it's hard to balance those, we don't own IBM laptops and shop at sears dot com

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photographer_h@reddit

Agreed which is why I find it insane that Porsche released the Taycan and now changed Cayenne and Macan into complete EVs but they still look stunning compared to these.

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strongmanass@reddit

Take a 911. Distort the proportions in different ways. Now we have every single car Porsche make.

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tykempster@reddit

I mean yeah, that’s brand identity

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strongmanass@reddit

Like I said, it works for them. I just find it boring and it's one of the many reasons I'm not interested in their cars. Normally I'd say that won't hurt them one bit, but these days they need as many EV enthusiasts as they can get.

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frost-bite999@reddit

congrats you have discovered what it means to have a halo car in your lineup

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strongmanass@reddit

The 911 is the flagship, not the halo. And its purpose isn't necessarily to be the design template for the whole brand. Porsche just decided to make it their whole identity. It works for them, but isn't particularly interesting IMO.

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KingMario05@reddit

Porsche are the guys crazy enough to put the engine in the back... and keep doing it. It's not surprising to me that they're one of the only EU OEMs to truly figure out how to make their electric offerings shine. Make a great driver's car... the end. All other concerns, including range, are secondary to driving pleasure.

Only other one? BMW. Guess what their tagline in Europe is. (Though they remember the range, too.)

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Blanchimont@reddit

If anything Porsche proves an electric car can do both. It's not either having good range OR good looks, the Taycan has good range AND good looks. Even in the most performance oriented version, the Turbo GT, has both a smaller battery and more range than the Ferrari Luce without making the car look like an aerodynamically smooth brick on wheels.

Heck, you could even say the same for the Merc this article is about. The front and rear definitely need an overhaul from an esthetic point of view, but the overal car is shaped like a four door coupe and gets more miles out of a smaller battery than the Luce.

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clownpirate@reddit

But the context isn’t about “making a good drivers’ car”.

It’s about making a car that just looks good and normal.

Which Porsche is doing with their EVs. And which Benz, Ferrari, and Jaguar are not.

It’s like we’ve gone full circle back to the 2010s when every automaker was furiously launching weird looking dwarf mutant hatchbacks for their EV and hybrid offerings. Then suddenly Tesla shows the world that it’s possible to make a mostly normal looking EV with the Model S.

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icona_@reddit

mercedes GLC and CLA seem like solid efforts

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flapsmcgee@reddit

It's not that hard to make the cars look good. They just choose not to for some reason.

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strongmanass@reddit

Whether the cars look "good" isn't really relevant. What's relevant is who they appeal to.

Ferrari and Jaguar aren't trying to appeal to their traditional customer base or to car enthusiasts in general. They've both said they expect most buyers of their upcoming EVs to be new to the brand. In order to do that, the styling is meant to appeal to those buyers, not to traditional car enthusiasts.

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New_Elk_5783@reddit

Car attractiveness, like human facial attractiveness, is mostly objective, with only a little bit of subjectivity sprinkled in. Some people might find find Steve Buscemi attractive, but there's a reason why he's never been the lead in a romantic movie.

It makes little sense to design such a weird car and pretend there exists some meaningfully large demographic that doesn't find traditional Ferraris attractive but thinks this iCar from Temu is beautiful.

Many companies deliberately choose to build ugly cars, and there simply hasn't been enough research or investigation into the exact reason why they do so.

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strongmanass@reddit

I didn't say anything about attractiveness, I said appeal. They're not the same thing. People can like a design independently of whether the outgroup - or even the ingroup themselves - find it attractive.

Many companies deliberately choose to build ugly cars

What often happens is competing priorities that result in lack of cohesion, or they choose to prioritize appeal to the target group over attractiveness. Like you said, "attractiveness" is a set of characteristics very well-known to designers. Every design team could make an attractive car. Then there's no reason to choose one over another based on looks. It's more important to appeal to the group you want to sell the car to. Sometimes that overlaps with a classically beautiful car. Sometimes it doesn't.

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New_Elk_5783@reddit

I dont know, it just seems like youre making a lot of semantic arguments without any concrete examples. I dont understand why you bring up this dichotomy of "appeal vs attractiveness" as if they are independent of each other.

Can you give an example of an appealing unattractive car that would have sold less if it was attractive?

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strongmanass@reddit

I dont understand why you bring up this dichotomy of "appeal vs attractiveness" as if they are independent of each other.

How intertwined they are is up for debate, but they are distinct. Many men's watches have oversized faces that look ill-proportioned, but the buyer wants the product firmly differentiated from women's watches. Same for rings.

Can you give an example of an "appealing" unattractive car that would have sold less if it was more conventionally attractive?

No one can know if it would've sold less, but the [PT Cruiser] (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/2003_Chrysler_PT_Cruiser_Touring_Edition_with_Woodie_package%2C_front_left%2C_07-19-2025.jpg/250px-2003_Chrysler_PT_Cruiser_Touring_Edition_with_Woodie_package%2C_front_left%2C_07-19-2025.jpg) comes to mind. Most non-buyers hated it.

Lamborghini is also the poster child of this. When the Huracán came out people complained it was too soft and not aggressive enough for a Lamborghini. Jeremy Clarkson said it looked lovely, but a Lamborghini needed to look like the designer was on drugs. Over time it became more angular and aggressive.

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icona_@reddit

they probably tried to make them look good, but specifically in a tech/sci fi way, to match the change to EV.

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jse000@reddit

They should've copied Hyundai's homework with the N Vision 74, or even Honda's 0 Saloon.

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icona_@reddit

even hyundai didn't copy their own homework lol, i don't get it.

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strongmanass@reddit

jaguar's average customer is 50 years old!

It's actually around 60, which is part of why they're pivoting so hard. That's the parents of the average new buyer age in China (35). When they said they wanted younger buyers, everyone took that to mean they wanted androgynous Gen Zers. But they just want regular middle-aged buyers in their 40s.

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V8-Turbo-Hybrid@reddit

Cypertruck isn’t really better though.

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Zephyruos@reddit

Can go the F150 Lightning way and have fake gril, or just remove the gril and keep the same design language of non-EV car lineup.

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strongmanass@reddit

What the fuck is happening

Appealing to people who aren't currently enthusiasts with products thay are overtly contemporary. IMO they're all very similar in underlying approach with very different applications of that approach and resulting outcomes. Outcomes:

The AMG hedges its bets both in design and drive mode by combining contemporary (passenger screen, digital interior, three point star in the lights) and traditional (the front and rear take inspiration from the C111 concept from the 60s, the silhouette is the standard Merc shape for the past 20 years fale V8 mode).

The Jag steps outside car design by taking overt inspiration from architecture and interior design (they collaborated with architects, interior designers, and fine artists on Type 00 and likely Type 01).

Ferrari outsourced the best-known contemporary product designer to do the interior and collaborate with in-house designers on the exterior.

Conceptually, each car tries to combine overt contemporary design with a link to the same period of the brand's past: the 1960s: C111, E-Type, Ferrari 250 respectively. How successful each link is is up for debate.

What's interesting to me is that all three cars were designed independently at the same time and and ended up drawing from the same decade of the past. It was the last time all three brands were successful at the same time. But that's just an anecdote since this all occurred independently.

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Thomas_633_Mk2@reddit

YO SOMEONE ELSE WHO REMEMBERS THIS THING IS MEANT TO BE A C111

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bane_undone@reddit

This is objectively an entire different vehicle with an attractive design. The fuck you talking about? What a weird thing to be upset about.

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cookingboy@reddit

Neither the Jaguar Type 00 nor this AMG look like $35k cars and cost $650k.

They are gaudy but I bet if they pull up next to you, they’d have a lot of presence.

But the Luce? Take out that Ferrari badge and it looks like a Hyundai concept car from 2015.

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hunterturk@reddit

This is just plain ugly. The Ferrari is not ugly, it is just a quirky cheap car with zero identity.

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nicoflash2@reddit

😬

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rkartzinel@reddit

God damn that is an ugly piece of shit.

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ZestyBabee@reddit

Leaving a legendary V8 behind is tough, but it's hard to argue with a 1,153-horsepower hyper-sedan that proves the future of raw speed doesn't require a drop of gasoline, even if purists like myself still have to mourn the loss of that classic engine roar.

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