Mum is not allowing me to work or gain benefits? (M18)
Posted by SnooCalculations4142@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 85 comments
has anyone else ever dealt with this experience before.
My mum is making me refuse to work or claim benefits because of the money that she will lose and its really getting to me. I tried starting my own personal business to combat this issue but obviously when you got a low cash flow and are managing college at the same time its a bit difficult to maintain.
She says i cant work because she will lose money from the goverment because Im capable of working. and she wont let me claim benefits because she will lose money from that to she threatens to make me pay her back in full and more or else ill be kicked out the house this would not be a huge issue if i had family members nearby but they live 3-4 hours away.
can she kick me out if i start working and would it be enforced for me to pay her back i know it sounds dumb but just need help. and what time would i be given if she tried kicking me out the house.
as someone who is trying to get a start in life as soon as i can this is really stressing me out and idk what to do any advice would help alot.
(hopefully this falls into subreddit guidelines as i did try looking through the rules before posting not tryna vent or rant just need some advice in a shitty situation)
hairlikebrianmay@reddit
When you say "she will lose money because I am capable of working" do you mean she is claiming some benefit because you are incapable of work through a disability?
J8YDG9RTT8N2TG74YS7A@reddit
Definitely sounds like it.
Also sounds like OP doesn't know about it.
Sounds like the mother has been using the kid as a cash cow.
OP needs to get in touch with the DWP and find out what benefits are currently being claimed in their name.
This pops up on the legal advice subs every now and again, where a parent has claimed their child has autism/ADHD and claimed the money and never told the child.
Yamahaha125@reddit
Op is 18, so his mother would be claiming PIP and possibly carers allowance.
When you turned 16, did someone come round and ask if you were happy for your mum to receive benefits on your behalf?
It be would have been a quick visit and OP would probably of had to been there.
Aggravating-Gas-8750@reddit
2 years ago my youngest hit 18 and they just sent a letter. Would have been easy to say it's ok and keep them in the dark.
Yamahaha125@reddit
For child disability benefits, you claim when they are children, send in the paperwork/evidence and you get Children’s DLA. When they age out at 16, you have to apply for PIP. Most of the time the parent is an appointee and manages the money for the child. You have to have a visit from a DWP visiting officer who checks your ID and makes sure everything is ok and the child is happy for the parent to act as an appointee. Then you send off the evidence/paperwork to PIP and wait for a decision.
monkey_kaleidoscope@reddit
Some people really should not be parents eh. I couldn’t imagine doing that to my kids, I want to give them the best possible start in life that I never had not use them for my own gain and fuck them over. Insane how you could do this to your own child
anabsentfriend@reddit
This is what I picked up on as well - capable of working.
TedBurns-3@reddit
You're an adult, you can do whatever you want buddy. In the nicest possible way, it's time to leave home
ARobertNotABob@reddit
Two random words + number as a Username is a sign of using a generator, and that this is probably a bot account.
Lack of post history doubles the suspicion, lack of replies makes it a near certainty.
Engage brain before your emotions, people.
GildedTortoise@reddit
In fairness Reddit does auto generate usernames, I've used a few for throwaways which look similar. But curious on your take on this as you flagged it. Do you think it's LLM data gathering, or trying to flood subs with (in this case) benefits related topics to push a narrative? (Just my own examples)
ARobertNotABob@reddit
Noise generators mostly, but, yes, a fair few with obvious agendas.
BusyBeeBridgette@reddit
You're 18 - Legally you are your own person now and beholden to no one bar the law itself. Your mother's legal obligation to you has been completed. Although it is probably borderline benefit fraud making sure you have no income so she keeps her own.
Also, now that you are 18 she has no legal obligation to house you. So if you want to work, tat is your prerogative, if she kicks you out because of it (she'll be an ass for it) it is her prerogative.
It sounds like you should probably start thinking about leaving home .See if you can stay at a friends place, or something, whilst you work and find your own feet.
Accomplished-Run-375@reddit
Not really, and if OP is still in education then there are no benefits that he would be eligible for. NSJSA and NSESA are contributions based, and defined by your last 2 years of NI contributions which OP does not have.
As for UC students are expected to rely on student finance not that - there are exceptions where students are eligible for UC but from what they've said in the post those don't apply. Additionally if they are entitled UC despite being a student, then the student finance is taken into account £1 for £1 across the time they are studying - even if they don't take student finance and are eligible for it.
Though unless OP is in collage rather than uni then he should already have dropped off her UC claim for not being in non-advanced (read as up to A-level) education, and will when they turn 19 anyway.
Quiet_surprise79@reddit
Student finance covers college now?
Accomplished-Run-375@reddit
I'm referring to students more generally, I know that OP has said they're in collage.
Quiet_surprise79@reddit
Oh the confusion comes from the fact you were replying to a comment directly linked to OPs situation.
JMH-66@reddit
Student Finance can apply to both Advanced and Non Advanced Education, actually. Just different systems and the Student Loan system ( for Advanced Education ) is the more well known and common. For Non Advanced ( Further) Education it would have to be a Local Govt Bursary ( 16-19) or Advanced Learner Loan ( 19+ )
Quiet_surprise79@reddit
Do the bursaries have the same impact on UC as student loans?
Thank you for explaining this. Are these all under Student Finance England? You have capitalised Student Finance so I'm not sure if you're referring to the company or doing it for another reason.
JMH-66@reddit
Yes ,they can but it's complicated it can depend on if you also had the student loan ; certain bursaries can be Income ( deducted ); others aren't. It's quite a complex area. We usually do individual cases when this is involved. More general rules relating to the standard student finance system to apply across the board though they just have different availability..
The type of finance available varies between the countries, for instance Scotland does not have a student loan system. There's also different bursaries which very between Council areas.
I deal with England. AR375 does Wales, we have others that do Scotland but at the moment not Northern Ireland as they've moved ( so apologies to Northern Ireland ! )We all work or worked in benefits and we're the Mods from the Benefits AdviceUK. So we can give advice on most areas if you need it.
Quiet_surprise79@reddit
I appreciate you answering my questions! When you say Scotland doesn't have a student loans system, do you mean SAAS is set up differently than SFE?
Other than that, you've made everything very clear to me. Thank you
JMH-66@reddit
Yes, that's right. They don't have loans because they don't have to pay it back. It's a grant.
Quiet_surprise79@reddit
Huh? Do you mean just for college? I studied in Scotland and for uni courses, they get SAAS loans. It is paid a bit differently but they still have to pay it back once they're earning over a certain threshold
JMH-66@reddit
No, I meant uni , it's different I believe ( as I say I'm England not Scotland ) I couldn't say what each Local Authority does for it's collage age kids. That's even more variable.
Again we deal with benefits not student finance.
Quiet_surprise79@reddit
Ah okay. Well, as far as I know, anyone in Scotland studying at uni level is eligible for SAAS loans which they pay back, it's a very similar setup to student finance England. But it has been very helpful to learn about support for college age people on England and how that impacts UC. I appreciate the chat!
RugbyValkyrie@reddit
16 - 19 year olds are entitled to a free education. There are rules about where and what you study.
If you are from a low income household or having to live independently, student bursaries are available from the learing institution.
Quiet_surprise79@reddit
Right things have changed a lot since I was at college. We used "student finance" to refer to Student Finance England, rather than any finance that covered students, but this was back when you could work at 16 if you wanted to. Low-income households got EMA, which I know was scrapped, but it wouldn't have been referred to as student finance.
johnnycarrotheid@reddit
Seen this plenty tbh.
Likely she wants you staying in college till your 20th birthday (at under Uni level) to keep claiming.
You could be very likely to get kicked out if you work (legit) as it knackers her benefits/child maintenance as it's the same ages.
Get a cash in hand job, keep it quiet or she'll want it, and save some cash to move out.
Ages your no longer a child is 20th birthday for a lot of it. You're likely to be kicked out at that point anyway. So prepare.
Reddit____user___@reddit
Is your mother on disability benefits ?
CongealedBeanKingdom@reddit
Or has she put OP on them?
vipros42@reddit
This is what I am wondering. Because he says capable to work
CongealedBeanKingdom@reddit
Full disclosure: I used to do the admin in a school in the area I live in with is rougher than a badger's arse. We had to 'do the forms' for the DWP all the time. If a child had any hint of any sort of disability or disorder these parents over-egged the pudding in order to get more money and a car. I'd love to give details, but can't because it'd be a bit dodgy, for me and for them.
If i hadn't very lived round to corner i''ve reported every single one of the fradulent workshy fucking bastards.
johnnycarrotheid@reddit
Lol same experience here.
Half the town needs an investigation on them 😂 But I live here so 🫢
Reddit____user___@reddit
Very good point. That would be a right old pickle .
PixelMafiaXBL@reddit
Any chance your mum has been claiming benefits on your behalf without your knowledge?
What you’re describing though is financial abuse and coercive control, basically trapping you into being dependent on them by not allowing you to earn an income just so she can keep her own benefits.
She cannot force you to pay her back, not legally. She is most likely bluffing and trying to intimidate you.
She could kick you out though since you’re 18, she’s no longer legally obligated to provide a roof over your head. If you do get a job, you could try offering her 'dig money' (board) to cover the cash she claims she's losing, but given her behavior, you need to be prepared for her to still react badly.
You should definitely contact Citizens Advice and explain your situation. It's completely confidential and they’ll be able to give you support, advice, and guide you to any services that might help you get out of the situation you’re in.
Also, please go to your college’s student support or welfare team tomorrow. Tell them you are facing financial abuse at home and are at risk of being made homeless. Colleges often have emergency hardship funds, bursaries, or housing advisors who deal with exactly this kind of situation.
Finally, contact those family members regardless of whether or not they’re 3-4 hours away. Having them at least aware of your situation can only be a good thing. If your mother does follow through on her threats, a 3-hour train ride to a safe place to stay until you land on your feet is a massive lifeline.
TSC-99@reddit
If you can get a job, do it. You need to get on the employment ladder asap. The longer you leave it, the harder it will be.
hairlikebrianmay@reddit
She may already claiming benefits on your behalf and keeping the money which would be found out if you put in a claim for benefits yourself.
Swansboy@reddit
No, you're 18, if you live with her and never moved out. She has to file a eviction notice then once you been served it by proper person. You then have 30 days to leave. You need to then take the letter to council house team. You can sign up for universal credit. As your an adult, your mother can do the above but she can't stop you. If she phone police then explaining it to them. If your mother committing fraud, they won't like it.
MrEliJasper@reddit
My dad did this to me. When I turned 18 he made me stay in college without a job until I was 20 so he could keep receiving money for me then made me go on benefits and pay them monthly about 25% more than what they were getting for me. I was stuck living with them until I was nearly 28.
DON’T BE LIKE ME! GET OUT AND DO YOUR OWN THING!
giraffe_cake@reddit
What kind of benefits is she saying she is claiming?
Disability benefits are not deducted on wages from a job.
Universal credit only starts being deducted after a threshold has been met. I think its 12k.
Are you disabled or is your mother disabled?
I am not sure how much child benefit is or what age they are paid up to. I doubt this will affect the anything and also you are 18 now so she wouldn't be able to still be receiving this unless you are still in education. I am pretty sure you can still have a job when in education and still recive child benefits. That's as far as my understanding goes but you may have to look this up on GOV.uk.
If you are disabled, she may be claiming carers allowance? Though I am pretty sure you can still work, even if she is the one claiming carers allowance.
There's a lot of information missing, and without it, we can't really assess what you may or may not be able to do and recommend what to do going forward. Are you able to find out this information?
With you being 18, I am unsure how her benefits will be stopped once you start working, unless there is some fraudulent claiming going on or she doesn't understand how some benefits work.
I am not sure who it is you can contact, but it would be a division of the council if she does kick you out, there is temporary housing and get your name onto some list for council housing.
bumbleb33-@reddit
If OP is still at 6th form or a college child benefit is paid until the August after they finish. It's not loads but could be the difference between survival and drowning.
Saitamathegooat@reddit
Get a cash in hand job at local takeaway on the tills, local warehouses, pizza delivery etc.
VdubKid_94@reddit
Mom as a pos. does she even work, or just live off benefits? 🤦🏻♂️🐀
VerbingNoun413@reddit
!dick
Obscure-Oracle@reddit
Although it's a really shitty move from your mum, she is bound by benefits system and being on welfare she may not be able to support you if the money she receives to house and feed you stops. Being at college, you are still a dependent on your mum's claim and because you are in full time education you cannot make your own universal credit claim either. The solution would be to talk to your mum and offer to pay the shortfall, effectively becoming a lodger. So you would work and pay an agreed amount to stay in the house but support yourself financially with a job. Unfortunately the DWP just don't make this an easy process at all for teenagers. They can sometimes demand that your income is declared in your mum's benefits as household income, to escape this you will need a proven record that you are in fact supporting yourself. So a bank account showing your food purchases, mobile phone and rent payments to your mum to prove that you and your mum's finances are separated and that you are no longer a dependent. I hope this helps and good luck.
Flintshear@reddit
She won't be receiving any money for the OP. 18 years old is an independent adult for UC purposes.
They don't say they are in education, so UC/child benefit doesn't apply. The rules are different if they are still in education.
Wibble201@reddit
OP says they are “managing college”.
Flintshear@reddit
Ah, didn't catch that part.
That's about £300 in UC payments per month. The OP will be making more than that in any full time job and any part time job over 7.5 hours a week on minimum wage. They would also get that amount in UC themselves if they claim UC personally. Which means they are not a full time student as they would be ineligible (unless disabled), must actively look for work and quit studying if a job is found. So it really depends on what they are studying and if they want to quit to work instead.
Sounds like coercive control from the mom to deny OP the chance to work and gain experience/skills or claim UC, in order to keep that £300 in her bank account instead of OPs account.
Plus-Ambassador-9668@reddit
The OP would also receive ~£120 per month in ESA directly. Plus, factor in bedroom tax and the loss of council tax reduction.
Flintshear@reddit
We don't have enough info on that really. What is the LHA and the actual rent, do they rent privately, is OP moving out, etc. It may not factor at all.
If OP is on UC, they can still both get up to 100% council tax reduction. Again, too many variables to accurately say as each council sets its own rules on the reduction crieria and amounts.
Bottom line is, to paraphrase South Park, OP's mom is a bit of a bitch. Sacrificing her kid to keep her current lifestyle.
Plus-Ambassador-9668@reddit
Yes I replied similarly last night to say it would depend on a lot of factors in order to determine the true cost of moving to employment. But the rough workings out are to highlight what it may cost to break even with what the family survive on currently.
Again, too many variables in mother’s motivations and OP’s understanding of household costs to provide an opinion on fairness, too. There’s a whole lot of misinformation in the replies so it’s good to see you’ve actually taken some time also to outlay real world costs.
The benefits system is punitive towards young adults remaining at home, which in turn places increased pressure on that same benefits system but also on to social housing, the labour market, the NHS and generally expedites poor life outcomes for the young adults.
The benefits system (imo) should support young adults remaining at home as a dependent until they are 25, and allow further education to include university and completion of apprenticeships etc.
Young people would be supported to then maximise the education opportunities we benefit from in the UK, be in better standing to become homeowners, enter the job market with qualifications and learned experience instead of being pressured into jobsearching through their own adult UC claim and risking unstable income, confusing benefit awards, homelessness and negatively impacted mental health.
Honestly, my advice for OP regardless of who’s right or wrong would be to stick with college. They will be 19 on their next birthday and ineligible to remain on mother’s claim anyway.
Plus-Ambassador-9668@reddit
They note they are in college, and further education qualifies a dependent child from 16-19
Flintshear@reddit
Yeah, missed that.
See here for my follow up with that in mind.
TLDR: shitty behaviour from OPs mom to keep that £300 in her bank account instead of OPs account. If they are eligible for UC, they are not a full time student and would have to leave education if a job is found under normal UC rules for work activity. That job would pay more than £300, but into their account and not the moms.
gerty88@reddit
Unethical and illegal. Tell the council and go to the CAB. I deal with this at work sometimes. If you’re at risk of homelessness you will be housed.
Neat_Border2709@reddit
At 18 you can make you own claim, in fact she shouldn't be getting any extra benefits for you unless you are still in fulltime non-advanced education. If you are, she will still be entitled to child benefit and child element on a universal credit claim up until around your 20th birthday.
If you are not in fulltime education she is not entitled to any child related benefits so nothing should affect her own claim unless she is claiming something she shouldn't be, also if you left school at 16 without going into further non-advanced education all child related benefits would have stopped (I think) August 31st of the year you left school.
Also, You've not sated but if you are claiming PIP/DLA then that will not change, it is NOT a means tested benefit and you/she will still be entitled to that money if you work or not. if she claims carers allowance and you go to work this will also continue as long as she is still providing the requirements to qualify for carers allowance.
You do need to find out what exactly it is she is claiming for you, also making sure she is not claiming anything in your name you are not aware off. sadly it does happen and could be the real reason she doesn't want you working or making a claim because she is already claiming in your name.
Advice I've given is as a parent having gone through these issues with my own kids. we have claimed universal credit for a couple of years due to child tax credits being moved over to UC, My son now 20, claims UC in his own right, is in fulltime non-advanced education and it did not affect our UC claim for our youngest.
To answer your other question, Yes she can ask you to contribute to your living expenses nothing is free, she can also ask you leave if you refuse and she is the home owner or the named tenant.
montyrattus@reddit
That sounds abusive and she is selfishly ruining your future, you are missing out on valuable experience while your peers are creeping ahead.
DoctorOctagonapus@reddit
Sounds fraudulent as well.
XxeniusBlack71@reddit
First of all its her house if she pays all bills ....but your 18 you can do what you want ..her child benefit ( for you)should be running out soon unless she claims you for college... get a job, do you, your mother is holding you back , you have the right mindset to grow ....its your mum's issue not yours its up to her to get the right financial advise
Crafty-Reality-9425@reddit
So you are 18 and your mum won't let you get paid work or claim benefits because she will lose out on the benefits she is currently receiving. Will you mother be giving you any money from her benefits so that you can socialise and buy stuff for yourself? Or is your future mapped out to be sat at home doing nothing day after, with someone who even though you refer to her as mum, puts her own needs first and has no intention of assisting you, in any way that she can, with your next step into adulthood. Money is a problem in many families, but I was always led to believe, and from personal experience, that mothers make sacrifices for their children as it is a key part of their 'job description'. It is easy for me to say, but it sounds like you need to put yourself first. You never know, her threats might be idle and things may work out ok for both of you. I do hope you work things out, whatever the result.
goofymf893@reddit
I had the same with my mum, and went out and got a job behind her back. Turns out she would lose nothing, she just didn’t like the idea of me being independent and since she had never worked, didn’t want me to do better than her in life.
After that it was ‘you need to pay rent’
My advice to you: get a job, suffer through her bs for as long as possible if you can (in my case this was 2-3 years) and save as much as possible before moving out. You’ll regret nothing.
abyssal-isopod86@reddit
I'm on Universal Credit.
My son is 21. When he turned 18 he finished his college course a short while after and due to not being able to find a job, he had to claim Universal Credit too.
His award doesn't affect how much I get from UC so your mother is either lying to you about that, or she just thinks that's what will happen and hasn't checked it.
Similarly, my son can earn so much a week via paid work before my UC is affected and then it's only the rent element and he'd have to pay that from his wages which is how it should be anyway.
How much he'd have to pay would depend on how much he earns, and there is a cut off where if he earns under that, it wouldn't affect the rent at all.
Your mother needs to contact her work coach to talk about how you working might affect her money.
But you claiming UC won't affect hers at all.
However, your age will mean you can't get anymore than the base rate UC of £348 per month unless your qualify for the disability element too.
CongealedBeanKingdom@reddit
Yes, but have you pretended your son was ill/incapacitated in some way throughout his childhood in order to get more money and a car, and now you can no longer sustain the lie because your perfectly capable and intelligent adult child would like to go out and contribute to society, whereas you've sat on your lazy arse robbing the tax payers for 18 years?
I'll assume not, but I have a massive chinny reckon that OP's mum has been stealing from us all.
No_Currency6911@reddit
If you are not in full time education, and she is claiming benefits for you (UC / child benefit) then she js doing it fraudulently. If she is claiming DLA/ PIP for you, then she should be giving the money to you, as it is yours.
If you ares full time student, then you can work and it not affect your mums benefits, also you won’t be taxed. No she cannot make you pay back any lost benefits m.
Neddlings55@reddit
Might be worth seeking legal advice as im fairly sure what she is doing is illegal and classed [possibly] as a form of domestic/financial abuse.
Imtryingforheckssake@reddit
The only thing I can add that hasn't been mentioned already is that you might also try posting on r/BenefitsAdviceUK it's a very helpful sub.
Opposite-Ad-288@reddit
From a adults point of view (bit of life experience)
No she can’t kick you out for working or earning etc, but also,
Ethically you should help out if you earn and she starts losing money,
In todays economy every penny counts and being on the dole is hard enough, if it reduces the amount quite a bit then your whole households gonna sink,
Its give and take, you can’t just earn and not share as she has fed, clothed kept you warm etc and finances shouldn’t be a topic of “oh shes being selfish” it should be general upkeep, survival and comfort for those you live with.
Example
If your mom gets £1500 (aimed high with that)
And lets say your earnings reduce it to £700 and she has bills and debts like most of us of £1300
Then you’re all screwed and not helping is being selfish.
You’re a family, a unit, she isn’t being greedy and asking for pocket money, shes asking you to replace what she loses as it is generally bills, debts, food, heating, electric, internet, services, etc…
Adultings hard, but you’re not missing out on experience, you’re just not stacking shelves,
Focus on college and learn your own skills
TheGreenPangolin@reddit
She cannot stop you getting a job or applying for benefits. However she can throw you out. She legally must give "reasonable notice" which is not defined but generally agreed as 28 days. But your mum is being financially abusive to you (illegal) and possibly committing benefit fraud from the sounds of it, so I don't think she will care what notice she is legally required to give. So basically you need to find somewhere else to live in advance of getting a job or benefits, so that you can get independent from her. Any friends you can stay with?
StarDue6540@reddit
Ask mom to take you to her advisor to go over what you can do so that she doesn't lose her benefits. She may be misunderstanding the situation especially since you are now a legal adult. When I was underage I made a small sum but had to file a tax return for the funds. It was below a taxable amount and I was still claimed on my parents return. Though this was only in respect to taxes and not a benefit of any sort. It's worth checking in to, to get professional advise.
FilmSudden8635@reddit
Ok benefits, Universal credit and jsa are all intertwined. As a college student under 19 your Mum will get benefits for you being at home. If you leave college they will stop and the cost of having you at home is not replaced. I am not a financial advisor and do not know the system intimately… the best bet is for Mum to have a chat with the financial team at citizens advice, who can sit down and advise on all the benefits, and what will go up and down, etc. be warned though… you may be expected to pay a hefty chunk of your salary to help keep the home your in! When my daughter left college and started full time at work we lost all entitlement for her and she now has to help us pay for the rent and her food! If she leaves to live with her BF, we will have to downsize as we won’t be able to afford the rent for a three bedroom house.
keeperrr@reddit
When i started working (without asking mummys permision) just before your age, my mum lost out on some housing benefits and council tax exemptions.. I begrudgingly paid her the difference. And ended up moving out anyway since im paying either way.
Dread_queen23@reddit
Make sure she pays for everything for you then. You want new clothes she can pay, a night out, festival or gigs, a car. She can pay for it
katymcfunk@reddit
Are there younger children in the house? Has she ever worked? or maybe became a parent very young and has always lived off benefits? I would definitely go and put yourself on the housing list, explain your situation, say you may be made homeless if you get a job. People who have always lived on benefits and are surrounded by other people who have lived that way often don’t understand any other way of living. It does sound abusive though, and also, how long does she want you to do this for? If you don’t claim benefits or work then it’s like you don’t exist, you won’t be able to vote. In the short term talk to citizens advice, find out what the shortfall is. If you get a full time job you would be able to make up the difference quite easily I imagine.
PatientLasagne@reddit
I don't have any advice right now, but I'm sorry you're going through this. It is abuse, and I assume she tries to control you in other ways too. My dad did the same thing to me, threatened to kick me out and everything. I left home at 18 and haven't spoken to him in 10 years. Hang in there mate.
geekroick@reddit
In the event that she's partially correct (because it doesn't sound like she really knows what's going on) and her benefits would be reduced when you started being paid benefits yourself... Then why wouldn't you be expected to contribute some of that money towards the rent and bills and so on, that presumably your mum would be doing with 'her' share anyway?
If she's squirreling some of this money away then perhaps that explains her attitude towards it all. But she can't legally prevent you from working or being paid. Or claiming whatever you're rightfully entitled to.
MissMollyMole7@reddit
Well, at least you are not like your mother, good for you wanting to step into the world and get a job… I am so sorry she is so unkind to you, threatening to kick you out is appalling, it doesn’t sound like you deserve that kind of treatment at all. Being in college is great and she should be supportive of you wanting to earn a little money while you study to better yourself. Are you able to relocate to a new area with a kinder member of your family do you think? It’s a big thing to contemplate and would take a lot of organising but it feels like it would be a solution, probably the least expensive option too… Yes, of course, any money coming into the household would affect her benefit claim. So if you did get a job you would need to balance out her loss. I don’t know why she can’t just discuss this option with you as it would be helpful for you and would cost her nothing. I assume she still gets money for you as you are still in full time (?) education? Moving out to a flat or shared house is expensive but if you can get a job that pays enough to support yourself then this is a route I think you should consider once you have a job that allows you to manage work and study time with enough money to live on. I wish you good luck dealing with this OP, I hope you can resolve this soon.
jimmywhereareya@reddit
The problem here is that your mum is in dire straits. I'm not sure how you working would affect her benefits, but as soon as you leave education or training she will no longer be entitled to any benefits for you. That will be a massive loss of income. You're going to need a job so you can pay towards your keep.
Call_Me_Janice@reddit
Speak to Citizen's Advice. They are extremely helpful and may have more useful practical information than Reddit
Good luck dude, your Mum sucks for this attitude. Good on you for wanting to get a good start in life. Don't let her hold you back - look for a job and work out if you can afford a flatshare in your area if ahe does decide to kick you out (spoken as a Mum with kids around your age)
veryblocky@reddit
I’m sorry you’re in this situation. My advice would be to try and move out if you can. I know that’s not necessarily easy without income, but you can’t live like that.
I wish you the best, hope you figure something out.
Intelligent-Two3410@reddit
My mom lost plenty when I started working in terms of U/C did not stop her from making sure I got work though, she’s holding you back massively
Plus-Ambassador-9668@reddit
Yes I have dealt with a similar situation through work.
So your mum will receive benefits as you attend college (further education). You will probably receive ESA at around £30 per week on top of this. If you begin work, you will be treated on her claim as a contributing adult and therefore expected by UC to pay pretty much half of the household costs and contribute to rent, council tax etc.
Essentially, if you start working and remain at home, you may have to deduct £500+ per month from your wage for you both to stay in exactly the same financial position you are in right now. This obviously depends on where you live, and who with, etc.
Sin_nombre__@reddit
It sounds like she has misunderstood how the benefit system works. A citizens advice bureau appointment sounds needed.
333333x@reddit
I don't know what the answer to your solution is but your mum is literally willing to ruin your future to keep getting benefits. That is abysmal, she should be encouraging you to get experience and work your way towards a successful life. At least you have the motivation to make something of yourself and you will break the cycle. Good luck. I will add that building savings while your young is super important to your future prospects of home ownership.
PabloMarmite@reddit
You’re 18, so if you want to work or claim benefits you can just apply and there’s nothing she can legally do. You have no obligation to pay her anything. She can tell you that you can’t live there any more.
Give your council’s social care team a call, because this sounds like at best an unhealthy mess and at worst domestic abuse, and tell them you’re at risk of being homeless.
Poo_Poo_La_Foo@reddit
None of this sounds dumb my friend, this is a really difficult and unpleasant thing you're going through.
LilacScentedStoat@reddit
Offer to pay her "Board" A low weekly amount that should cover what she loses.
If she's getting the child element of UC that will likely end soon either way. I forget the exact terms of when it ends.
If you're the only child, she'll be getting about £350 a month.
Maleficent_Day_3869@reddit
how much in benefits is she getting? why don’t you offer to cover it as ‘rent’?