Cancelling RingCentral Took Over an Hour and Felt Deliberately Designed to Exhaust Customers
Posted by Klonoadice@reddit | sysadmin | View on Reddit | 143 comments
Spent over an hour trying to cancel services with RingCentral today and it was one of the most infuriating support experiences I’ve dealt with in years.
I submitted a cancellation ticket 3 days ago. No response.
Called customer support and was told cancellations are only handled during specific time windows. Already ridiculous, but fine. I called back during the designated time.
Immediately got pushed into retention tactics despite making it crystal clear I wanted to cancel.
Then the real circus started.
15 minute hold.
Came back saying the request was “submitted.”
Then casually told me that if the charges happen to hit the next billing cycle, they’d “gladly refund me later.”
Excuse me?
Why would a cancellation not be immediate?
Why is the customer expected to babysit billing errors and chase refunds afterward because your internal systems are apparently held together with duct tape?
I pushed harder and said I wanted confirmation NOW, not vague promises about what “might” happen later.
Another 20 minute hold.
Then they send me some ridiculous “change order” email that I had to manually reply “Accept” to like I’m signing a peace treaty just to cancel phone licenses.
After that, the licenses STILL remained active in the dashboard.
Support told me to “wait 24 hours.”
No chance. I refused to get off the call because I’m not wasting another hour of my life calling back into the same black hole tomorrow.
Eventually they removed the licenses.
Then I realized they forgot to cancel one of the services entirely.
Support blamed it on a “glitch.”
Another hold.
Then I was told THAT cancellation had to be escalated to yet another department.
At that point it became obvious this entire system is engineered around friction, delay, confusion, and attrition. The goal feels less like customer support and more like making cancellation so time consuming and annoying that people give up or accidentally roll into another billing cycle.
Funny how the red carpet rolls out instantly when you sign up and hand over your credit card, but the second you try to leave, suddenly every process requires an escalation team, a waiting period, a special form, another department, another hold, another “glitch,” another future promise about refunds.
Absolutely exhausting company to deal with.
My advice:
Stay away from RingCentral unless you enjoy wasting hours fighting to cancel basic services you already told them repeatedly to terminate.
Chadarius@reddit
I did it from their website and it took about 5 minutes. Got an email confirmation shortly afterwards.
Klonoadice@reddit (OP)
Which services did you cancel exactly?
rufus_xavier_sr@reddit
I have their emails blocked on our tenant and their phone numbers on our system. If they make it through I block whatever made it right away. Their sales people are jackals.
SEND_ME_PEACE@reddit
This tactic of deliberately exhausting the user through endless loops and dead ends should be studied. The quality of these methods of terminating service has downgraded across a whole ton of sectors not only including IT.
billyalt@reddit
It actually has been studied and that is why they exist in the first place.
FrivolousMe@reddit
Yeah this is what psychology grads get hired to do when they have no other career options
ReadyAimTranspire@reddit
Oh it's well studied and has been for quite some time. The field is called Dark Patterns and this is an example of Roach Motel - easy to get into but very hard to get out of.
MeccIt@reddit
No, these are the continually shifting Yes|No|Maybe options that are mixed up on several screens that you have to wade through in order to cancel or return an item or service.
https://fortune.com/2023/06/23/amazon-uses-these-six-dark-pattern-design-tricks-subscribe-prime-stop-cancelling-ftc/
OP suffered "sludge", the soul destroying pinball between different teams that is the opposite the of "nudge" to make Sales as frictionless as possible.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/06/customer-service-sludge/683340/
Source: I used to have to support these systems.
z2amiller@reddit
Do You Not Want To Enable Cancelation Of Your Account? [Y/N]
-- new prompt --
[ ] Cancel
[ ] Cancel
fnordhole@reddit
"The quality of these methods of terminating service has downgraded across a whole ton of sectors not only including IT."
For the companies involved, they've been upgraded.
This is deliberate.
CornBredThuggin@reddit
Years ago, I canceled service through CenturyLink or whatever they're called now. I had DirectTV bundled through them which I signed up for when I called to setup service. I had to call both companies to cancel service. Like OP, I had to jump through hoops just to get a confirmation email as they both tried to pull the same bullshit.
dllhell79@reddit
At least you are allowed to cancel, even if it not without some pain. Adobe on the other hand... they allow you to add licenses at any time of course, but you can only reduce count in a contract month. 😒
phantom_eight@reddit
Please report this to the NY Attorney General she gets an absolute Hard-on for this shit wheather she'syour AG or not. Also.. I usually get a complete and immediate turn around in additude the second I utter the phrase.
I once had Temu give me trouble over a promotion that wasnt clear and wanted to cancel the orders... the chat bot was being a chat bot. Those words got me to a human instantly. Like within fucking seconds.
gramathy@reddit
"no it's fine, I'll just put a stop payment on the card until you guys get it sorted out"
ZHYT@reddit
That's exactly what I'd do. Once they make it this hard, protecting your wallet becomes the priority. Let them chase you instead of the other way around. No reason to trust their refund promises.
the_federation@reddit
We canceled by not renewing our contract. I documented multiple emails stating that we would not be renewing and had our CSM confirm in writing that we would not be renewing. RingCentral still billed us for several months after our end date.
I'm so glad to be rid of them, I could write a whole post about it.
Klonoadice@reddit (OP)
I'll still be issuing a stop payment against them with the bank after full cancelation is done. You just can't trust them.
They abuse their customers through malicious retention practices to increase their public stock price.
Almost seems as though if enough customers made a commotion about the predatory billing practices it could affect public perception and their stock price.
grrhss@reddit
Took me a week of multiple calls and attempted escalations. I had already ported out all my numbers and they forced new numbers in to maintain the count. Assholes.
Awol@reddit
Fuck RingCentral and thanks for the heads up. I didn't even get the red carpet when signing up with them. They messed up porting out numbers over and we lost a good mix of our DID sets. When I discovered this I was mad but they said nothing they could do as the number were already handed out. They are getting kicked to the curb this year so thanks for the heads up that I will need to make this a day task and that I need to make sure all stuff is canceled and to inform the lawyers that trouble might be coming out way.
the_federation@reddit
When we moved away from RingCentral, we initially scheduled the port-out for late September then switched it to early October. RC still ported the numbers out on the initial port-out date and we only found out when everyone suddenly had different numbers after the 7 day grace period expired. I raised a Sev I ticket to fix this (which they actually managed to do) and during the RCA we found out that RC had been emailing the person who signed the original contract with them 7 years ago... who left the company 6 months after and had been replaced twice since then.
We told them multiple times that he's no longer with the company and that someone else had even signed the renewal contract, but apparently "one of [their] systems" refused to update the contact info for our account. I had them swear up and down that they would email me for the proper port-out notifications. I'll give you three guesses as to whether they did (and the first two don't count).
uzlonewolf@reddit
They can't just take your DIDs like that. A FCC complaint would have lit a fire under them to get them back for you, the FCC doesn't mess around with things like this.
saffash@reddit
Had a similar experience with them years ago. They are definitely on the blacklist!
matt95110@reddit
Somehow my personal number got attached to a support ticket at an old company I worked for and I get called by them once or twice a year. I hate that fucking company.
Stonewalled9999@reddit
ATT and Verizon still call my personal cell (that I never gave them) trying to get money from a company i don't work for, and haven't worked for in 11 years.
the_federation@reddit
One helpdesk tech gave Verizon my number to approve something that I didn't have the authority to approve (though I had access to the account) 5 years ago. Verizon still calls me periodically to approve something and will tell users thay actions are pending my approval despite many people telling Verizon that I'm not the right person.
matt95110@reddit
There is a company that I used to work for where they put my personal cell in the MOTD on the ISP switch. If I get calls, which I got one back in January, I just tell them to restart the device regardless of what time of day it is. It makes me smile.
Stonewalled9999@reddit
I think I got ATT to stop calling me after they called me at 2AM asking about a 10 gig circuit in the DC and I said "right, you can go ahead and pull that fiber we don't need it"
fresh-dork@reddit
i kinda want to know how much the overall fallout was on that.
Stonewalled9999@reddit
They called my manager and my manger said something to the effect of “you fuckheads shouldn’t have ex employees as contacts on stuff like that that’s on you. He told you many times to remove him”
DoctorOctagonapus@reddit
Based manager
fresh-dork@reddit
that's a perfectly cromulent response
m4tic@reddit
unrelated, I really like this word.
RansomStark78@reddit
Lol it
spyhermit@reddit
I had this experience with vonage years ago. Called in to cancel, spent over 45 minutes on the phone. The person in the retention department was perfectly clear the first couple times, then started speeding up their speech and talking in a bizarre accent. It was almost comedic, if i hadn't been ready to chew nails and spit pins. Iat one point I said just cancel the damn account, and the rep told me off for swearing and said if I did it again the call would be disconnected. after that I just repeated "cancel the account" as a response to everything said.
nestersan@reddit
One hour? Count yourself amongst the blessed, favoured by the gods
Klonoadice@reddit (OP)
Yeah I'm seeing that here based on everyone else's feedback. I was very aggressive toward them. Pro tip I guess.
nestersan@reddit
The first time I had to deal with ringcentral I asked them (after 3 days no email response) if they had tied me out in a field to eat grass like a goat and forgot about me.
Very good service after that
Generico300@reddit
Thoroughly document and record attempts to cancel. Then just block payments.
Klonoadice@reddit (OP)
It's fortunately canceled now, but yeah was going to issue a stop payment request with the bank if they just didn't do it. Wasted an hour on this garbage.
Ivanow@reddit
This is a bandaid fix, and while it can work for some providers, it doesn't resolve underlying issue, just like deleting brokerage app on your phone doesn't nullify your margin call obligations.
Legally, those scummy companies are able to sent such "blocked" payments to collections.
Financial-Chemist360@reddit
That has become our first move - cancel the payment method and on a personal level it is why I always use a virtual credit card number. Too many companies became unflushables and I delight in seeing the notification that they tried again six months later.
DespacitoAU@reddit
Keep an eye out for charges though. I've read enough horror stories on r/msp for RingCentral sending out bills months after cancellation
LUHG_HANI@reddit
An hour is pretty amazing to get it all cancelled to be honest.
theotherThanatos@reddit
What are some of the issues that you see with it? We are looking at moving from self hosted to ring central, I’ve only heard good things about
Generico300@reddit
A lot of bugs, particularly with the Teams plugin. Nothing catastrophic, but like, people being put on DND for seemingly no reason and then missing calls has been an ongoing headache.
wobblydavid@reddit
I'll chime in and say the service has been great. Never had any down time or issues. It's the sales people and prices that are horrendous
matroosoft@reddit
This works of you know in advance. But typically you're sinking considerable effort into thing like this before your like 'I should've documented this'.
Generico300@reddit
Typically if I have to cancel something by phone I record the process by default. The only reason to require anything more than a "cancel my subscription" button for any service these days is if you're going to make it a headache.
RCTID1975@reddit
I mean, stay away from RC, but also, use a VAR for this stuff. They'll handle all of that for you
msuts@reddit
We used RC for a few years and significantly downsized our VOIP usage after COVID, moving to Teams Phone for significantly less money. While RC's service was always solid, administration was always a pain.
When we cancelled, we changed our service from annual to monthly while we prepared to move over to Teams Phone. When time came to be charged for the first month, they sent us a bill for the full year. They told us we'd be refunded the rest after cancellation. CDW stepped in for us at that point and basically told us not to pay them anything.
And porting the numbers to Teams was almost impossible -- the only thing that worked in the end for over half of our owned phone numbers was entering RC's corporate address as our own. That was documented nowhere by them and I had to find it on some message board.
flattop100@reddit
Did you threaten a credit card charge back? That usually turns the tables.
Sato1515@reddit
I've been trying to cancel for over a year now. Submitted a request and called their support number and got it all confirmed 3 months before the contract renewed. Called again right before the 30 day marked and it was confirmed that we're all set to be canceled.
Next month rolls around and we get billed, service is not terminated. I call and ask what's up. They state that it shows it should've been cancelled. They refund the invoice and say that we won't get billed next month.
We get billed the next month.
I've been repeating this process every damn month since October. We haven't paid a red cent, but this experience has made me swear off this company for good and I will talk anyone's ear off about how terrible of billing practices these folks follow in any effort to avoid getting them any more business.
Frothyleet@reddit
Why? Just start ignoring them, or hand them off to legal. You cancelled, now it's just a company sending you rando invoices.
fresh-dork@reddit
exactly. cancelled a bank account, and the rep told me that if a check came in afterwards, i'd be on the hook. i had to explain to them that no, i would not pay it, and that honoring a check on a closed account is a them problem.
Bagellord@reddit
You'd be responsible for outstanding checks, though, not new ones. Right?
fresh-dork@reddit
no. i had already let it sit for a week; also, they have no way to determine that a check is outstanding vs new
CatDredger@reddit
lots of times business have these thing setup to invoice directly to accounting after initial approval.
someone, someday, will eventually pay that fake invoice.
Frothyleet@reddit
Oh, for sure that's a potential issue. There are a bunch of companies out there whose business models revolve around the practice of sending unsolicited invoices to a bunch of companies and hoping they get paid.
However, that's not OP's issue, assuming he hands the responsibility off properly (i.e., telling AP department not to pay through whatever internal process the company has).
Ivashkin@reddit
In the UK, I would have simply explained the situation to my bank and told them to deny any further payments to them.
Geminii27@reddit
It's not 'felt like', it's absolutely deliberate.
Cancelation of any service should be something you can do in moments from either a central government site, or (let's be frank) your bank, including blocking any (further) automatic payments or attempts at charges.
johor@reddit
As a SaaS monkey, I can tell you this is no accident.
DToX_@reddit
We've been trying to fully cancel our business account for the last 6 months!!! It's insane the level of effort to get this completed. Our contract has ended but they have been dragging their feet to send us the final bill.
sorderon@reddit
be nice if you told me what ringcentral is
sorderon@reddit
still no idea. either an AI supplier or a phone company
Happy_Kale888@reddit
Really from goole it says
RingCentral is a cloud-based communication platform that replaces traditional office phone systems. It combines voice calls, video conferencing, team messaging, and business SMS into a single app, allowing employees to communicate and collaborate seamlessly from any device, anywhere.
Valdaraak@reddit
Sometimes I wonder if folks in this sub actually work in IT at all. Or if they just want everything spoonfed to them and don't want to do any research or thinking themselves.
sorderon@reddit
google said .co.uk is phones, .com is AI services.
at no stage in the original post can it be defined if it's one or the other.
For a top 1% person, your comment sucks.
mirrax@reddit
ringcentral.co.uk and ringcentral.com are the same site. It's all phones and the AI stuff is the same BS tacked onto anything these days. VoIP phone app, but the apps has an "AI agent" so they can sell it as an "AI communication suite".
But I don't think other commenters are off base that if you don't have the technical literacy to understand that, that this subreddit might not be for you.
sorderon@reddit
No need to be rude - That's pointless. Do you want that?
Google gave me different synopsis for both .co.uk and .com making out they were two different companies. Not the first time a .com and .co.uk are different.
Should of clicked through. Didn't. Get beaten with sticks because of it. Nice. Thankfully I have the technical literacy on a level which you find to be an opportunity to make yourself superior. Great work.
mirrax@reddit
I think you are misunderstanding superiority versus not meeting the expectations of professional discussion.
My first encounter with RingCentral was undoubtedly this subreddit. At no point did I ask someone else to explain what it is, then not even put in the effort to read the Wikipedia article that undoubtedly got linked by your LLM search. And then complain about negative reactions when not putting in any effort to understand.
Valdaraak@reddit
The vast majority of my comments are shitposting and kicking hornet nests to kill downtime at work and home. Nobody in the top 1% are helpful people.
But I stand by my original comment. They both go to the same site and the company is now both: AI powered VOIP. Whatever the hell that means.
Happy_Kale888@reddit
There are a lot of companies that are branding themselves as AI first and beating there chest with AI. Proclaiming we are a AI company because we transcribe speech and replaced tire 1 helpdesk with a chat box. I am not even sure there is a distinction for what defines a AI company. Dialpad (another ringcentral competitor) claims they are a AI company as well. It would be smart for companies to purchase the top level domain (.AI)for marketing reasons it makes sense.
I will say this carefully as I can but AI is very dangerous because people read what it spews out and trusts it as fact without any further research or thought just reading what it says and believing it. That to me is wild and dangerous. Yet people do it all the time. And AI is so convincing and so sure of itself there is little reason to doubt it. Typically if I want to know what a company does I will go to there homepage and look...
ThatITguy2015@reddit
Sure hope not as a sysadmin. If that person is one, at least it makes me feel like a fucking rocket scientist in comparison.
I_cut_the_brakes@reddit
Are you a sysadmin or did you stumble in here? A sysadmin that can't google a VOIP provider is a scary thought.
sorderon@reddit
All I did was type ringcentral into google, and .co.uk is phones, and .com is AI
Now remove yourself from that high horse, if you even realise.
I_cut_the_brakes@reddit
Learn to use your nugget.
sorderon@reddit
Cancelling AI services can also be a right nightmare.
Your horse wants to say sorry to me, I'm certain.
I_cut_the_brakes@reddit
My son, it's not an AI service lmao.
MyAnnurismSpeakstoMe@reddit
Phone/voip
GrayCalf@reddit
They sell wedding rings duh. /s
x37v911@reddit
"RINGcentral" & "-- just to cancel phone licenses."
some phone stuff
sorderon@reddit
Thankyou! I now know after being pummeled to death
_jeffreydavid@reddit
www.google.com
BrwnSugarFemboy@reddit
If I ever have to deal with RingCentral ever again, I will find the home address of my account manager and remind them that I know where they sleep at night
FortheredditLOLz@reddit
Now that’s a name i haven’t heard of in a while….
Thanks for reminding me of Ring central. had the worst service, and shittiest account managers i dealt with.
Bloody_Typical@reddit
Oh this sounds like fun, we have the Avaya Cloud office system to cancel soon which is just a rebranded Ring Central product only with worse service and support.
We've been on account manager of the month for ages now so trying to get an answer from them about how to cancel has been a nightmare..
The_C3rb@reddit
Yea can relate very hard to this, avoid Avaya Cloud like the plague. Non stop fighting with them to cancel anything.
wwbubba0069@reddit
I globally blocked them several years ago. The rep that was calling us to do a demo would not take no for an answer. Told me more then enough to not ever deal with them.
bloodguard@reddit
If you can sign up and start a service online you should be able to cancel it online. If we don't see that we're probably not going to start service.
"Contact us for pricing" is another big flapping red flag.
Normal_Choice9322@reddit
Idk what they are thinking because you typically cancel when you have gone to another provider. It's not like you're going to undo all of that work because they threw you a discount
Arudinne@reddit
It's intentionally made difficult so they can keep billing you, not to entice you to stay.
Like some gym chains say you have to go the gym you signed up at to cancel.
One hour is easy compared to how long it took as to get our SIP provider cancelled even after we ported out our numbers.
Normal_Choice9322@reddit
I guess, but I'd spend all day canceling if I have to. It's not like I'm just going to keep paying for two phone systems
notHooptieJ@reddit
its not about "not cancelling" is about them getting another payment or three out of the less diligent, its entirely to screw people out of money if they arent paying attention closely.
Arudinne@reddit
I'm not suggesting you shouldn't cancel. I'm just saying they're intentionally being dicks about it.
JustKeepRedditn010@reddit
This. Sorry, I can’t explain to Accounting why I’m over budget by paying for 2 phone systems. I’d get my ass canned, so we’re gonna do this dance the whole week if we have to.
fresh-dork@reddit
and i totally get why the EU passed regs requiring symmetry in signup and cancel
Frothyleet@reddit
Sorry, do you really have a problem with them wanting a verified paper trail over a request to cancel telecom services?
I would be way more concerned if they were like "cool no problem" and turned everything off after a brief phone call.
Not saying they aren't dragging it out as much as they can. Just noting that this is pretty normal.
Klonoadice@reddit (OP)
Clicking an "Accept" button without speaking to anyone would have been acceptable. It takes them like 10-15 minutes to send this email. Theyre intentionally dragging the process out by adding inane steps to discourage cancellation.
03263@reddit
Well you don't have to use it but not continuing to pay us is going to be a problem.
MorallyDeplorable@reddit
lel, I confused ring central with grand central and was wondering what year I was stuck in
bv915@reddit
And this, my friends, is exactly why you use a virtual/disposable credit card number. Can't charge you for something when you disable that card number. Then they get on the line with you REAL quick!
schmeckendeugler@reddit
Thanks for the heads up. I look forward to the day we can say goodbye.
I_am_Cyril_Sneer@reddit
We've started putting everything possible on a Privacy.com card. Got a business account and took some time to get our limit high enough to be workable, but it's so nice to do everything in good faith to cancel and, if they keep charging, just turn off the virtual card.
CatDredger@reddit
The billing department is a mess.
Stay away from their bizarre video service, teams/zoom alternative, Its a legacy service used for ancient conference room equipment that for some reason they have kept developing.
Phone service, business menus (after hours setup), voicemail, user phone app, teams integration, has been extremely reliable for us for a decade at a reasonable price.
So you get some loser aspect with good aspects. Not sure if any vendor out there is any better.
CAPICINC@reddit
Had Jive (later GoTo), and it was a similar experience, I think they're just putting minimal effort and funding into a department that has a lot of legal hoops to jump through.
cdoublejj@reddit
clear plastics just don't last too well. headlights, clear tubing, these office matts, etc etc
Greed_Sucks@reddit
I hope eventually customers resort to vandalism and violence.
AsphaltSailor@reddit
When I cancelled ooma many years back, I kind of turned tactics against them.
When the rep got on the phone, I told him I was recording the call, and I would like to cancel my account.
He started his retention spiel, and every time it was time for me to respond, I said "I would like to cancel my account"
No matter what he said, my reply was "I'd like to cancel my account"
Every 10 times, I would say "I am recording this call, I have asked you to cancel my account XX times. I would like to cancel my account"
It got up to the mid-50s, and they finally gave up.
They did not attempt any payment shenanigans, but I would probably do something similar - "Any future charges to this credit card will be subject to a chargeback" over and over til they shut up about it. And then I would charge them back each time.
RedditNotFreeSpeech@reddit
Report to state attorney general
russianturnipofdoom@reddit
I have a close friend who was a CSM there, was loved by his clients, hit all his numbers, and then got put on a PIP and fired. RingCentral is flailing, fuck em.
FarToe1@reddit
There should be legislation that you can cancel a subscription in the same way that you joined it.
Requiring a phone call is discriminatory in itself, plenty of people really dislike doing that.
CriticalDog@reddit
Glad we didn't go with them when I was digging into new VOIP vendors for our incredibly small VOIP footprint.
Ironically, gave them the "no" almost a year ago.
Last week, I got a cold email with a "click here to schedule a consult on a new VOIP and get a $100" gift card.
So I did that, and I'm looking forward to telling him we already told them no last year.
tallguy14@reddit
curious what you went to for a phone system?
Joestac@reddit
I WANT TO QUIT THE GYM.
Impressive-Pants@reddit
I had the same issue, took forever to get a hold of anyone, and they told me to wait 24 hours and I should see the change every time. I ended up complaining to my CEO when he was with a few guys from legal, they made a call.
LigerXT5@reddit
Had similar dealing with ATT a few years ago.
Local church moved phone providers, VOIP, ATT Uverse's reliability was on full display as calls would drop or sound terrible. My network monitoring concerns were finally up front and acknowledged by the church management.
ATT wasted a couple weeks, said there was no issue on their side. Uh, run that by me again? Brand new UVerse modem (no ATT Air or better at the time), fully fresh and assigned to account, not even the wifi has been touched. Pings are not happy, latency up and down, at least three failed pings a minute, no matter who I pinged out to.
New ISP in place, maybe one failed ping an hour.
Called ATT to cancel, and spent more time than it should...They tried many ways to find what they could do, to keep a customer of 30+ years. You've had the time, we have the conversations logged, you found no issue, we found the solution.
They tried to bill the client for failing to send the modem back. ATT refused to supply a shipping label, all we're told is to walk into a local ATT store to drop it off. But, the only thing we have is an AR, and that's not accepted. Nearest "Office" is well over an hour drive away (highway speeds).
They finally sent us a shipping label. Then another argument for for the unsent modem charge, which was finally cleared.
Something about recording one's calls, keeping paper trails of chats (screenshots generally...), and briefly mentioning the FCC, sorted things out.
g3l33m@reddit
They've always been horrible to deal with. Thought I was through with them when we moved to a different faxing company but then when we got into bed with AT&T IP phones found out that it's all Ring Central again.. They didn't get any better in the meantime but AT&T is horrible too so it at least made sense that they'd hook up..
DramaticErraticism@reddit
I often think of how nice it has been since they passed the law that forces companies to allow cancellation from the internet if they allow sign ups from the internet.
Our government is constantly screwing us, but that was one big win for consumers, for once.
Too bad it doesnt seem to work for contracts like this!
meostro@reddit
Hanlon's razor probably applies here - never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence. They're not evil or intentionally wasting your time, they're all just really bad at their job.
The result looks identical, so the warning applies equally regardless.
Exploding_Testicles@reddit
In one of my office ring central is the main of my existence. Their softphone constantly causes 1way audio, drops calls, or everyone sound robotic/underwater. Hard phones are a bit better but still problematic. We loathe RC and Alvaria combined for our phone services.
tdhuck@reddit
Funny or ironic that you say this, we are switching to RC, (migrating offices one at a time) but I was not part of that decision and/or rollout and not even part of the team supporting these migrations.
Exploding_Testicles@reddit
Granted this office operates about 250ish call center type people.
Account management is great in their portal. It's very simple. But their service requires perfect network, no jitter or wobble. Kinda hard to monitor/control remote users home network. Make sure a solid QOS profile is created for it on the network. I would also recommend hardphones over soft phones.
But I would love to hear your experience with it!
QuiteFatty@reddit
I am clearly in the minority but I actually like RC
KneticTheory@reddit
Sense I got from that developer was that the company is failing slowly. They had what I suspect was a breach towards the end of last year and because of that our sms campaign and call queue systems required rebuilding from backups.
I don't think they're trusted based on those experiences. The C Suite is leaning into NICE. Won't catch me trying to stop them.
ThatITguy2015@reddit
That seems pretty damn illegal, or at least as close as you can get to that line. Wonder if they’d respond better if your lawyers drafted them a notice.
Like normally I get it, want to avoid that as it slows everything down, but is this a spot where you want it deliberately by the books of “they WILL cut off all services by X date”?
bjc1960@reddit
IVRs can add a wait time period to certain queue like cancellations. One fitness center i know of had one
omfgbrb@reddit
If you signed up online you should be able to use a VPN to show you as being in California. Then, by law, RingCentral has to allow you to cancel by the same method you signed up. i.e. online.
ecityweb@reddit
Same here still waiting on cancellation confirmation.
LibtardsAreFunny@reddit
I had a terrible experience just having a reception phone replaced. They sent a replacement to a phone with a side car that had no side car. They wanted me to send that entire phone back rather than just send me the side car. Around and around we went... i finally put them on my cancelation for next year when our contract is up. Can't even get a phone replaced easily... you can piss off.
_haha_oh_wow_@reddit
You have encountered "Dark UI": It's basically using UX for evil.
stevelife01@reddit
Only took a day? You’re doing much better than most. Took me months to get numbers ported away and everything fully cancelled.
seanhead@reddit
use a voice AI to do it, then just have council send a letter. Navigating that shit is not worth the time.
ChesterM54@reddit
This is the shit AI is going to replace you know.
Kusibu@reddit
I am really not enjoying the advent of adversarial commerce.
BasicallyFake@reddit
this was my experience with zoom last year
repooc21@reddit
I feel this pain just trying to get them to change terms on month to month or at least my renewal date
Moving to teams the moment I can
Klonoadice@reddit (OP)
We're swapping over to Zoom. It's cheaper and month to month. Can also cancel from the dashboard. As it should be.
tdhuck@reddit
Every service needs to be this way, personal/business/etc, if you offer a service there needs to be a no hassle way to cancel.
HDClown@reddit
Last time I had to cancel with RC was years ago, and it had to go through the assigned account rep first, who then had to submit an internal request to another department. Was a similar shitshow of delay and after delay after delay with constant hounding on my part until it got cancelled.
RestartRebootRetire@reddit
One hour seems pretty good for a VOIP provider.
Took us several weeks to onboard with RingCentral/Avaya so I expect at least an hour.
Happy_Kale888@reddit
this would be one of the only things I would want a AI agent to do for me it is a great use case.
ohfucknotthisagain@reddit
Enshitification.
Retention departments used to offer incentives to customers who were canceling service. Now it's just a hostage situation.
Lost-Droids@reddit
OK but what's SysAdmin about this?