How do people have the funds and the time to get ATPL and a college degree simultaneously?
Posted by chris_warrior1@reddit | flying | View on Reddit | 8 comments
I'll be graduating with my associates next year and plan to transfer to a major university to get my bachelor's in BA (graduate in 2029). Since it's a 4 year university, I'd have to enroll as a full time student. Community College allowed me to be very flexible in the course load while I've been working full time. I've seen a lot of pilots on social media who progressed through flight school while being a full time college student. I get they probably went to UND or Liberty or ERAU, but imo that's a waste of time (no offense) since their degree-aviation management- is a bad backup plan. I'm majoring in business administration
I racked up a lot of credit card debt (which I've thankfully paid off) and I have a few thousands in medical debt (although, in Virginia, it doesn't affect your credit score). I'm wondering for those of you who got through your certs while in college, how did you find the time and money to do it?
I'm itching to start my PPL next year around the same time I'll start at my university. I have my first class medical and am studying for the written. I've read it takes 2-3 years to reach ATPL, so it would be perfect timing to apply to airlines while I receive my bachelors. I don't think I'll have time for work on top of flying and being a full time student. Help someone out, please. Are my priorities aligned, or am I committing self deletion with my plan?
RAG_Aviation@reddit
A lot of the people you see online doing full time university and full time flight training are usually in one of a few situations. Either their parents are helping financially, they’re taking on huge loan debt, they’re in an aviation university where flying is built into the degree, or the timeline is way longer than social media makes it seem.
Social media compresses timelines hard. Somebody posts “zero to airline in 2 years” but leaves out that they were flying 4-5 times a week, living at home, not paying bills, had financial support, or took on six figures of debt.
And honestly in the US, getting all your ratings and reaching ATP mins in 2-3 years while doing a normal 4 year university and supporting yourself financially is difficult for most people. Not impossible, but definitely not the norm.
Honestly your priorities sound more aligned than you think. You already have a first class medical, you’re thinking about debt before signing loans, and you’re getting a non aviation degree instead of putting all your eggs in one basket. That’s honestly more mature than a lot of people jumping into massive training debt because social media told them there’s a permanent pilot shortage.
If I were in your position I’d probably finish the business degree, start PPL while in school if cash flow allows, and just progress steadily instead of trying to speedrun everything. The industry is cyclical and the people who survive long term are usually the ones who stayed financially flexible, not necessarily the ones who finished training the fastest.
There’s also absolutely nothing wrong with taking 5-7 years instead of 2-3 if it means avoiding life changing debt and burnout.
Doofusmonkey2@reddit
Who’s gonna tell him?
KehreAzerith@reddit
Honestly, parents with money
ChiefDaddyJ@reddit
Easy bro just have your dad pay for it
Swimming_Way_7372@reddit
ATPL is used outside the US. Those pilots don't usually require a 4 year degree. They have 14 ATPL exams that we don't have.
planesexy@reddit
Scholarships.
rFlyingTower@reddit
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I'll be graduating with my associates next year and plan to transfer to a major university to get my bachelor's in BA (graduate in 2029). Since it's a 4 year university, I'd have to enroll as a full time student. Community College allowed me to be very flexible in the course load while I've been working full time. I've seen a lot of pilots on social media who progressed through flight school while being a full time college student. I get they probably went to UND or Liberty or ERAU, but imo that's a waste of time (no offense) since their degree-aviation management- is a bad backup plan. I'm majoring in business administration
I racked up a lot of credit card debt (which I've thankfully paid off) and I have a few thousands in medical debt (although, in Virginia, it doesn't affect your credit score). I'm wondering for those of you who got through your certs while in college, how did you find the time and money to do it?
I'm itching to start my PPL next year around the same time I'll start at my university. I have my first class medical and am studying for the written. I've read it takes 2-3 years to reach ATPL, so it would be perfect timing to apply to airlines while I receive my bachelors. I don't think I'll have time for work on top of flying and being a full time student. Help someone out, please. Are my priorities aligned, or am I committing self deletion with my plan?
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