Anyone go back and watch Sir Mix-a-Lot's "Baby got Back" video and realize standards have changed dramatically since the 90s?
Posted by Remy0507@reddit | Xennials | View on Reddit | 35 comments
Were these really considered "phat asses" at the time?
_ism_@reddit
compare: the bubble butt song, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbjVdJfvYqI whom i also think aren't really what thicc is
originalbrowncoat@reddit
Fry, you can’t just sit in your room all day listening to classical music!
9for9@reddit
Some of it was that thiccer women weren't available in the industry, but also this video basically started a trend that become more extreme and exaggerated over the last 3 decades.
Slim thic women who have those features naturally became more marketable. Women who naturally have more extreme versions of those features were able to exploit them so then people who wanted to make money off those features started selling them and eventually you hit the BBL era which is the trend started here to the nth degree.
But back then he would have been largely referring to women in the size 10/12/14 range (not fat or skinny) that had features her preferred since Hollywood at the time was largely using size 2/4/6 women for magazines and modeling.
The easiest comparison is to look at the Victoria Secret's models of that time.
_ism_@reddit
this sent me on a deep dive somehow and i ended up reading scholarly research from the 90's about how "suddenly" big butts were beautiful
18randomcharacters@reddit
Yes. Fat shaming and body standards were INSANE in the 90s and 2000's.
esocharis@reddit
It was really rough on those of us that were discovering we much prefer chubby/bigger women during this same time frame lol
Being open and unashamed about preferring big girls was social suicide then, at least among the vast majority of other guys. Even today you'll can get concern trolled to hell half the time for making such a statement, if not still some outright fat shaming and "gross wtf is wrong with you" type of comments.
canadiantaken@reddit
I remember the first guy I met around 2000 who liked big girls. He was Russian and totally not ashamed. I only remember because nobody had ever so honestly explained that preference to me before. I was far past judging or trolling at that point in my life, but I agree with you that it was not a common thing to hear.
esocharis@reddit
Yeah, I wasn't super open about it until probably the 2010s, because I was mature enough at that point to not give a shit what some other dumbass thinks about my "type." Wish I'd grown up a little faster lol
winksoutloud@reddit
Men still see fat women as unwanted leftovers or fetishes. So few men want a big girl and want to treat her right. I've had to choose being forever single instead of different forms of abuse.
Ianthin1@reddit
And 70’s and 80’s. Remember all those fitness and aerobics shows and products back in the day?
Remy0507@reddit (OP)
The heroin chic look was really in at the time.
pumpkinhead9000k@reddit
Ozempic just might bring it back unfortunately
AlienPrimateHybrid@reddit
Might? Its back and worse than its ever been. Look at these skeletal, dead-eyed celebrity these days.
HarryBalsagna1776@reddit
That song was never meant to be serious, but some people have never been able to handle it.
Remy0507@reddit (OP)
Oh I know that, but I'm just watching this and the white women in the beginning are all like "Look at her BUTT! It's just so BIG!"
And I'm over here like...
https://i.redd.it/rm8c5x7fli3h1.gif
lawpoop@reddit
Watch Cher's Turn Back Time. It was scandalous, because of her "skimpy" outfit, and because she was a woman in her 40s!
Specialist-Leek8645@reddit
*gasp*
notmyfault@reddit
Teenage me did not like Cher’s music. Teenage me loved that video.
Seven22am@reddit
Yes to changing standards but part of that would also be what dancers would be available for this kind of a gig and who would be approved by whoever was in charge of casting. Even if Sir Mix wanted to feature more full-figured women, they simply might not have been in the business and, to whatever extent they were, that might have been kiboshed by whoever was paying the bills.
Specialist-Leek8645@reddit
thx, I came to say this but not as well. It's Hollywood, they can only use the most idealized bodies even if it clashes with the lyrics. Suspend disbelief and use your imagination. Back then women were curvy like always, we just weren't supposed to validate them. Taboo. I wonder if he didn't care the dancers were slimmer bc he knew ppl dancing to it would read it the right way and that alone could push culture. I kinda think it did push it, no? I mean Jonathan Coulton covered this song.
9for9@reddit
I think it's a matter of trends exaggerating something that exists naturally into something you have to pay for.
SignificantApricot69@reddit
If you are a xennial you know that this was during the heroin chic era when Kate Moss was considered the top supermodel and almost all celebrity white women were waif thin.
FantasticAd4938@reddit
Someone once said that JLo's influential ass made Sir Mix A Lot cry.
Other-Improvement410@reddit
Dude, I'm 50. My standards are 'a pulse'
Jonesy1138@reddit
36-24-36
Only if she 5’3
wrestlegirl@reddit
QuietNene@reddit
Standards for… music video production?
TheOsirisOfThisShit_@reddit
Sir Mix A Lot has talked about how when you had an open casting call in Hollywood, no girls of any color with big butts would show up. They weren't part of that world. That's really what the song is about. The woman at the beginning is Sir Mix a Lot's girlfriend. She would complain to him about how she couldn't get modeling jobs because of her normal sized butt, which inspired the song.
fenway-fan1982@reddit
bloomsday289@reddit
I don't understand current standards. People seem to want to look like over exaggerated cartoon characters anymore with unnatural butts, lips, lashes, breasts, muscles....
Phyddlestyx@reddit
Physical attraction is really interesting from a socio-biological perspective. Humans aren't the only species who can sometimes prefer 'unnatural' looks. These zebra finches with beads and feathers on their heads are preferred as mates over their natural looking rivals
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/23276464_A_Taste_for_the_Beautiful_Latent_Aesthetic_Mate_Preferences_for_White_Crests_in_Two_Species_of_Australian_Grassfinches
ThomasSirveaux@reddit
I mean, I get it, those are some cool hats
Phyddlestyx@reddit
Say hi to Crow T Reauxbot for me.
PHILIPPEtheSunfish@reddit
I bet you he's never been happier.
s-multicellular@reddit
Ah you have a point. Beauty standards are always evolving I guess. Mastodon’s Motherload is a more recent example for comparison. Not a song so expressly about thiccness, just one that uses it metaphorically as a signal of optimism, as far as I can ascertain.