My old man needs a new Gaming PC for ~2500€ (Germany)
Posted by WomLoT@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 5 comments
Is this a good build for 2632€?
16GB MSI GeForce RTX 5080 Ventus 3X OC Aktiv PCIe 5.0 x16 1xHDMI 2.1b / 3xDisplayPort 2.1b (Retail) € 1.267,79
AMD Ryzen 9 9900X 12x 4.40GHz So.AM5 WOF € 328,63
2TB Lexar NM790 M.2 2280 PCIe 4.0 x4 3D-NAND TLC (LNM790X002T-RNNNG) € 229,00
32GB Patriot VIPER VENOM DDR5-6000 DIMM CL36 Dual Kit € 389,00
MSI PRO B850-S WIFI6E AMD B850 So.AM5 DDR5 ATX Retail € 118,01
1000 Watt Corsair RM1000e Modular 80+ Gold € 130,14
Arctic Liquid Freezer III Pro 360 All-in-One € 72,89
Lian Li LANCOOL 216 E-ATX-Gehäuse, Midi-Tower - schwarz € 96,69
And why can't I just post a picture :(
Anyway any tip and recommendation is welcome. Thank you <3
BaronB@reddit
GPU - I'd recommend against the Ventus model if you care about noise. The MSI Ventus (and Shadow) are generally significantly louder than basically any other option. I personally have the PNY model and find it extremely quiet.
CPU - The 9900X isn't faster than the much less expensive 9600X in the vast majority of games, only very slightly faster in the few that it is faster, is just as often slightly slower, and always slower than the 9700X. The Ryzen 9 CPUs are dual CCD CPUs which are essentially two Ryzen 5 or Ryzen 7 CPUs glued together. For non-gaming applications that make use of a lot of cores, these can offer significant advantages. But for gaming they're almost always slower. This is because even though they have higher listed clock speeds than the less expensive CPUs, those higher clock speeds are only ever seen when only one core is active. Otherwise the mere existence of the second CCD means the CPU ends up running a lot hotter and boost speeds drop faster thus that once you get to 4+ cores being used they generally even out with the lower end CPUs in clock speeds and may even end up slightly slower by 6-8 cores. Most modern games are generally single thread limited, so single core performance is important, but they and the rest of the operating system and background applications are going to be spreading themselves out over several more threads making those peak single core clock speeds mostly a "fun fact" with little real world benefit. The 7800X3D is also similarly priced to the 9900X and is around 20% faster in games.
Motherboard - I would recommend against the MSI B850-S for a 9900X, and even for a 9600X. For the 9900X it may struggle to deliver it full power if you do ever make use of all of that CPU's cores. But the main issue I have with that motherboard is that it only has two M.2 slots. M.2 slots are going to be what you're going to want to use for all storage, and only two lots greatly limits future upgradeability. I'd recommend at least the B850-S EVO if you go with the 9600X, but more the Gigabyte Eagle AX (B650 or B850 model) as it's less expensive than the MSI B850-S EVO and higher quality overall.
PSU - I would probably recommend the NZXT C850 Gold Core instead of the Corsair RM1000e. The RM1000e is a perfectly good PSU, but the NZXT C850 Gold Core is extremely efficient and quiet with the same warranty length for less. You also do not need 1000W here. 1000W is what you need if you go with a 9950X and RTX 5090.
Case - Consider the Lancool 217. A bit quieter, a bit cheaper. And assuming you don't care about ARGB fans, it has none.
WomLoT@reddit (OP)
Thank you so much for your great and detailed response, I really appreciate it! <3
It's just that I concluded that question in another sub minutes ago. But like I said THANK YOU
If your interested, that's the result : https://www.mindfactory.de/shopping_cart.php/basket_action/load_basket_extern/id/3948ec221c0a35aa46f8e7b5bfe15d1393d1cfc4042549f0f8f
And I would really like to read your review to the build :)
BaronB@reddit
I'd say same feedback on the GPU and PSU. MSI Ventus is loud. NZXT PSU extremely efficient and quiet. If you don't care about noise, then both are fine. Lian Li 217 over 207.
The 9800X3D is very powerful, but unless your dad is super into esports games and has a >240hz monitor, the 7800X3D is only about 5\~10% slower, and the 9600X is still a beast of a gaming CPU. To throw left turn into the decisions you have to make, the Intel Core Ultra 250k Plus is also an excellent choice right now due to Intel's aggressive pricing.
I might recommend the Corsair Nautilus RS over the Arctic AIO. Also all black, but a lot quieter than the Arctic, and performs significantly better on the Ryzen 9000 CPUs. The Arctic LFIII was the best AIO for the AM5 CPUs when they first launched, but since then have fallen to the rear of the pack, and the Pro model's fans are noticeably louder than the original LFIII's fans. Outside of the Ryzen 9 class AM5 CPUs, none of the Ryzen 5 or Ryzen 7 class are power hungry enough to make going with a 360 vs 240 AIO have any affect on temps or noise levels, and is purely an aesthetic choice.
https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/Corsair-Nautilus-240-RS-All-in-One_1597469.html
https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/Corsair-Nautilus-360-RS-schwarz-All-in-One_1597470.html
The MSI B850 Tomahawk MAX is a good option if you're looking for 4 M.2 slots. Though I'm not entirely sure that's needed for most people. 2 is absolute minimum, 3 is my recommended, 4 is for power users. Generally if you're looking at 4 M.2 slots I feel like you're someone who either needs a lot of SSD storage, or it's giving you a hole to dig yourself with too many small SSDs. And I have a hard time justifying an additional nearly 100 euros more over perfectly good 3x M.2 options.
WomLoT@reddit (OP)
New build already has a 9800X3D and a lot of modifications because of other subs
Knjaz136@reddit
9900x loses to 7800x3d in gaming, on average.