How much carbon monoxide enters the UK atmosphere when it's BBQ season?
Posted by WallaItsJosh2@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 19 comments
Off the back of a recent post asking for your BBQ must have's, I wondered how much carbon monoxide + other fumes enter the UK's atmosphere when the weather is hot! Any brainiacs out there care to try to do the maths?!
Grenache@reddit
Not sure but it smells nice.
ResplendentBear@reddit
Just being a pedantic dick because it might be important someday - carbon monoxide is totally odourless (and tasteless).
Front-Bookkeeper2139@reddit
Yer he’s talking about carbon monoxside which is from a beef burger
Grenache@reddit
Mmmmmmmmm Beefy carbon monoxide.
Front-Bookkeeper2139@reddit
Carbon mon-ox-side
mdmnl@reddit
If only it was Carbon Monoxide-Tungsten
PsychologicalDish430@reddit
Carbon moo-noxide?
SyntaxOfTheDamned@reddit
Very rough pub-maths answer: a lot less than people think, but not zero.
A normal charcoal BBQ is basically a small, crap combustion chamber. You’re burning mostly carbon, with a bit of hydrogen, oxygen, ash, binders, moisture, and whatever fat is dripping off the sausages. In perfect combustion most of the carbon goes to CO₂. In real life you get incomplete combustion, so some comes out as carbon monoxide, plus particulates, VOCs, aldehydes, PAHs, nitrogen oxides, and general blue-grey garden filth. Say a BBQ burns 2–3kg of charcoal. Depending on airflow, temperature, fuel quality, and how much the lid is being opened every thirty seconds by someone called Gary, you might plausibly be in the hundreds of grams of CO per session rather than kilos.
Scale that up. If a few million households fire one up on a hot weekend, you’re probably talking low thousands of tonnes of CO across the UK. That sounds massive, but once it’s diluted into the boundary layer over an entire country, it’s atmospheric noise compared with road transport, industry, domestic combustion, shipping, fires, and general background oxidation chemistry. The nastier bit is local exposure, not national atmospheric loading. Stand in the plume and you’re breathing fine particulates, soot, hydrocarbons, acrolein-type nasties, PAHs from fat pyrolysis, and a bit of CO from oxygen-starved combustion. Put the thing in a tent, garage, shed, doorway, or under an awning and the CO stops being trivia and starts being a Darwin Award submission.
So the boring answer is: BBQ season definitely adds a measurable little burp of carbon monoxide and smoke chemistry, but it’s not meaningfully changing the UK atmosphere. It’s mainly a hyper-local air quality problem caused by millions of tiny inefficient carbon fires and people burning meat in flip-flops.
Kobbett@reddit
Carbon monoxide is also used to keep packaged meat nice and red. So it's not just cooking that releases it.
DrHydeous@reddit
You can figure out the answer from data in one of the many papers about the problems caused by cooking fires in places such as the Indian cities. Those are a serious health and environmental problem, although IIRC carbon monoxide is only a problem indoors (and even then not the biggest indoor problem), the outdoor problems are mostly from particulates and nitrogen and sulphur compounds.
Specifically in the UK, the answer is probably "so little that no-one has ever cared enough to measure it".
funnystuff79@reddit
I doubt the information is readily available. But you could work through it logically .
If a typical garden BBQ consumes 3kg of charcoal, how much CO2 would that produce.
Estimate how many people in the country have a BBQ and at what frequency
Ajay-1992@reddit
I think the question was about CO, not CO2
nhema94@reddit
Simply divide by two! 🙄
Sorry-Programmer9826@reddit
It's not exactly answering the question but it's worth saying CO2 isn't a long lived gas in the atmosphere. It breaks down based on reactions with OH radicals. So it doesn't really matter as long as it's released in a well ventilated area
PracticeNo8733@reddit
ITYM CO / CO1
Sorry-Programmer9826@reddit
Good point, important typo there. CO2 is very long lived
Theratchetnclank@reddit
Not enough to be meaningfully significant, it only really occurs when combustion is incomplete, so generally at the beginning of the cook.
PracticeNo8733@reddit
The UK doesn't really have an atmosphere of its own and CO breaks down in the atmosphere over a few months. I doubt BBQs are a significant source overall except perhaps hyper-locally.
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