How has the area you live in changed over the years?
Posted by Between3N20Karakters@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 38 comments
Where I live used to be quiet but not anymore because of literally one house. Shouting, swearing, barking dog, blasting music out at 10am during the week if there’s a tiny bit of sun and they’ve also started wearing balaclavas speeding up and down the street on shitty little motorbikes/quads.
If you couldn’t tell I absolutely despise them because they’ve single handedly ruined the area I live in with their mongrel behaviour.
Anyway, how’s your area changed if at all over the years?
Illustrious_Sea7480@reddit
White, working class terrace houses in a northern city. 2 and 3-bedroom houses, no front gardens. Growing up in the 70s it was mostly families or older couples whose kids had left home. We played out in the street, and women sat outside on a dining chair. Maybe one or two cars in the road. The houses were spotless. Women literally scrubbed the doorsteps clean and net curtains were pristine, but I guess us kids were mucky little buggers from all of the outside play. Very low crime rate (I guess there was nothing to steal?). We'd "go on 'road" (meaning the local high street) and bump in to extended family or the people dad worked with or playground friends of my mam. There were green grocers, butchers, a fish mongers, a newsagents, hardware shop, chippie etc.
Now the houses are mostly HMOs housing economic migrants mostly young and middle-aged men with no mothers or grandparents to keep them in line. Lots of cars, too many cars for the parking spaces and informal car repairs going on. Or refugee families without the same cultural norms as us. Rubbish piles up (bins now kept on the pavement rather than in back yards) and flytipping from repeat offenders. Lots of loud music late at night. Kids stealing parcels from doorsteps or damaging car wingmirrors. The high street has changed too - vape shops, Turkish barbers, European mini-marts and takeaways.
It's difficult to be one of the remaining households which hasn't changed and remembers how it used to be.
And I can't say any of this to friends or colleagues.
Demiboy94@reddit
It's not an immigrant problem it's a HMO rental problem. If you own your own home you tend to want to keep it nice and not piss off the neighbours.
If you're living in a shitty overcrowded HMO wheres the incentive to be a good neighbour. Especially if your other housemates are ill behaved
NullPointerX@reddit
It’s definitely an immigrant problem.
coffeewalnut08@reddit
No, that’s just your xenophobia talking. There are plenty of HMOs whose residents don’t take good care of the property or surroundings.
I’ve lived alongside such people in an HMO, and none of them were immigrants.
KinkyLittleParadox@reddit
Not to mention if you can only afford to live in an HMO as an adult working full time then obviously you’re likely to have a number of cars attached to each house
Any-Connection5849@reddit
Stop being logical these racists don't like it.
Illustrious_Sea7480@reddit
I think the transient nature of HMOs is definitely part of the problem.
NullPointerX@reddit
This 100%
Entire areas of the country have changed completely for the worst.
Large amounts of economic migrants to an area, they are not here to raise a family or settle down so do not care about the area the same way as the previous residents did. Many here just to live from the state.
Major changes needed.
Illustrious_Sea7480@reddit
It’s very regional. Look at the difference between my reply and others. 25 years ago in this area, the changing demographic was very positive for the community - new restaurants, coffee shops (like we saw on from the telly on Friends!). I had uni friends who were French and Polish and German. It all felt modern and multicultural. I wouldn’t have dreamed of writing something so “racist” back then.
What has happened since is very different though.
BakeMaleficent8104@reddit
Spot on comment. Factually correct, ignore anyone who disagrees because its 100% true....everywhere! Some of us don't fit in any longer. Tragic
Simbooptendo@reddit
More cars and racism
gentletonberry@reddit
Lived in my area for 14 years or so. We’ve seen lots of new restaurants and businesses open on the high street, lots of improvement works going on locally as well for public areas, which is nice. Got a new bus station. My area used to be a little rougher but it’s cleaned up a lot, burglary rates have gone down (though car related crimes are about the same) but rents have doubled in ten years. Some bad things, though; big increases in homelessness, when spice was all the rage there’d be groups of people just off their heads in the town centre, you still see some of that. And while we are seeing businesses open we do see a lot close and a really great local haberdashery/art supplies place got turned into a casino, which sucks.
Also our local hospital has declined a lot and I avoid interacting with any healthcare element if I can help it. A&E waiting times were about 4 hours when I first moved here, now they’re 24, sometimes 48 hours if things are really really bad.
Working_Bowl@reddit
Town as a whole, much more diverse. There were always pockets of ethnicities pre 2000 - Polish and Chinese. However, much more diverse now. I like the diversity.
For the worse - much bigger homeless population. Pushed here by the council of a big seaside city further along the coast. You would very rarely see a homeless person in town when I was younger, now it’s an everyday sight. If there’s trouble in town, it’s usually one of the homeless community. They are a big issue (I am aware now everyone who is homeless is a criminal or participates in anti-social behaviour, but they are a big contributor here)
Aperture45@reddit
Might want to edit that last sentence 😁
f8rter@reddit
Used to be hardworking working class people now benefit scrounging scumbags
BakeMaleficent8104@reddit
Massively yes. Proper scum, parasites
FitSolution2882@reddit
Yes, because I did something about it rather than just moan.
I physically confronted the offenders, logged EVERYTHING I saw with the authorities, made dozens if not hundreds of reports - and still do. The important one was logging it with the Cllrs and MP who FORCED the Police to act.
It's not perfect, but it is considerably better than what it was pre covid.
changhyun@reddit
There's a lot more litter. Even people's front gardens get litter chucked in them. Lots of flytipping too. It's got significantly worse in the past two years in particular, so it seems like the council has massively cut its street cleaning.
Active_Arugula_7079@reddit
Inescapable shite music. At the pub, the shops, the dentists waiting room…its like the same playlist of inoffensive generic pap, always just a bit too loud.
AirlineSevere7456@reddit
It hasn't really all the neighbours have been the same for the 9 years I've lived there. Crime is relatively low. The town centre on the other hand is an absolute empty unit hellhole now, used to be heaving 9 years ago.
HAMforPastry@reddit
Love how the balaclava gets mentioned like it's one of the breaking points for OP.
"I didn't think too much of them racing their motorbike up and down the street, but then they started wearing a Bally and that was my limit!"
Bec21-21@reddit
There are kids (teens I guess) near me who drive motorbikes at hair-raising speeds on a foot path (where there signs saying you can’t use motorized vehicles). They also wear balaclavas.
The bikes bother me, their riders don’t comprehend that they could easily kill someone (because they are kids). But the balaclavas really do make me angry - they don’t need to wear a balaclava unless they plan to be up to no good. If they were just naive about the danger it would somehow bother me less.
HAMforPastry@reddit
I was just making a joke is all
Flavourifshrrp@reddit
People with two adults and 2 kids now have four cars.
The street I grew up in has really nice houses, one side had no official parking and the other side had drives, though mostly only for one avg size car. Now, that family would have four cars so parking on that street is a nightmare, and even if you do have off road parking everyone is jammed packed around the drives so it makes it difficult to come out of the driveway etc.
mannyrerobate@reddit
It's so annoying man if they didn't sell off the trains people wouldn't feel they need cars. I've never had one and never needed it but with the train prices and how shit they are ok not surprised everyone is getting their own transport.
ArgyllLassie@reddit
I've been here 26 years and it hasn't changed at all. Fine with me.
El_Bastardo_Grande@reddit
More graffiti tags, more broken glass and dog shit.
Extreme-Composer8452@reddit
I've had the same neighbours for years, absolutely fine. Bought my house so now I'm stuck here. They've became worse over the last couple of years. They blast the telly which they've obviously got a sound system for. They've put it on the party wall so i have to listen to their shit all the time. They don't put their kids to bed so they're up till whenever just making noise. They don't work so it doesn't matter what time they get up. They were supposed to be moving but the landlord decided against selling the house I guess. I doubt they're buying it as they don't have steady income. The guy buys and sells cars so he has like 4 or 5 cars taking up the road. It's annoying that I've bought my house and the only rent but it's me who feels like I'm not supposed to be there. Dunno, it's kinda shitty. Also they have kids from like 3 to 15 years old, 4 of them. I dunno how they're all allowed to live there. It's only 3 bedrooms and ones tiny. They're mix of boys and girls. Surely that's a bit iffy
StrangerThings1106@reddit
Was 100% white to now whites being the minority all in the space of less than 10 years. Cars were on driveways only, now they're all parked on the roads and pavements. A mess.
Technical_Front_8046@reddit
No changes really. More kids running about or on their push bikes in the holidays or weekend. Doesn’t bother me.
Wider area, less high street shops, more Turkish barbers and vape stores then you can ever need. Oh and Starbucks/greggs/costa.
It appears all our area needs is multiple giant corporations within minutes drives of one another. Wouldn’t mind but we have three Starbucks within 6 minutes of each of them.
Frustrates me as it doesn’t offer much of a professional career locally for those leaving school/uni etc.
Nness@reddit
Moved to Hackney in London in 2018, and between then and now, you can definitely see the borough going from one of the poorest to having wealth and being a desirable place to live. The amount of new development, new businesses, quality of life improvements, etc. is staggering in such a short time.
Asleep-Software-4160@reddit
The demographic has changed from generally elderly to lots more families. It's a nice street to live on.
Specialist-Prior-213@reddit
Everything nice gets torn down and after 10 years of pissing about a private housing company builds a block of luxury flats on the land (if you're lucky, they more often just leave half finished construction sites all over the sodding place)
DollySheep32@reddit
The population is slowly getting younger and more ethnically diverse - when my mum moved there in the 70s there were almost no people of colour at all, and when I was in primary school in the early 2000s there was only one Indian kid in my entire class and one Chinese kid in my little sister's class.
SubjectiveAssertive@reddit
Honestly... barely, I'm on a cul de sac and it's maybe harder to get up the road due to slightly larger cars, more cars at home for folk WFH
I think only two of the 20ish houses are rentals so the neighbours have been fairly consistant
We got new bins this week
MostFortune1093@reddit
Similarly to what you are describing. Except it's multiple people doing this kind of stuff. When we moved here we had mostly decent neighbors and we always felt safe. Then everything changed during the pandemic. Now we have horrible neighbors and an unsafe neighborhood. It's very sad.
SpiderLight97@reddit
Luckily, not at all.
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