Kforce client wants an Architect to execute a massive VMware-to-Hyper-V migration, handle SCVMM, and travel 90% of the time. Pay: $34-$46/hr.
Posted by doxador@reddit | sysadmin | View on Reddit | 70 comments
I found this "Senior Hyper-V Engineer" job post on LinkedIn. The Imgur link below has the screenshots and Gemini's analysis.
I'm not sure who Kforce's client is, but they are living in la-la land. I absolutely blame Kforce for advertising the role as 'Remote' when it requires 90% travel. I know the market is rough out there right now, but dang! Even Gemini called it exploitative.
Any VMware/Hyper-V guys and gals are more than welcome to comment.
BadSausageFactory@reddit
remote as in 'remote far-away lands'
100% this is an MSP with a bullshit title and low pay
TheFluffiestRedditor@reddit
Senior engineer, for that little?? Come back when it’s over a hundred an hour. Those are 2010 rates.
jfoust2@reddit
Ah, look, there are 22 applicants.
thecravenone@reddit
In the first hour
Stonewalled9999@reddit
Likely Bangalore specials?
DaftPump@reddit
There are lots of seasoned IT people without a gig lately, could be that too.
_Do_The_Needful_@reddit
The Bangalorian
Superb_Raccoon@reddit
This is the Needful
Cheech47@reddit
I hate that I chuckled at this
TheFluffiestRedditor@reddit
Oh that's sad-making. Too many people generally desperate for work that they'll do these shitty roles.
Tex-Rob@reddit
To me this is grunt work. It's going to be a lot of doing the same thing over hundreds or thousands of times. This is a good contract for someone who is entry to mid level and wants to make some money and pad their resume with something that looks and sounds impressive.
GhostDan@reddit
I don't know anyone entry level who can do a vmware to hyperv/sccm conversion without a LOT of hand holding.
danreZ_au@reddit
A hundred an hour? Hahaha try 3k a day for a 6 month contract
RevLoveJoy@reddit
I typically will not even contract for companies that out of touch with pay rate, but this is the way. You don't want to be W-2 for someone who is either that ignorant or, more likely, that willfully delusional.
fresh-dork@reddit
it's 100% remote, out of hollywood FL, and 90% travel. none of this makes sense
amishengineer@reddit
100% remote. You are working remotely away from your home - 100% of the time.
traydee09@reddit
I saw a posting a few years back. It was 100% remote. You had to be in the office every day. The remote part was the servers the hire was to manage were in a different part of the building, so you were working remotely on them.
Tex-Rob@reddit
As someone who did one of these for BAE and the DOJ in 2007, it makes total sense. It means you can live anywhere and do this contract, you likely just need to be near a major airport.
Mr_ToDo@reddit
It's a "fun" way to define 90 percent travel time
Although I'd be they advertise every job like that so as to reach the work from home people. Because nothing says this is what you're looking for like not being able to even get home eighty percent of the time
doxador@reddit (OP)
FWIW, the 2nd pic says the client is in Miami, FL.
CeC-P@reddit
In my experience, it's hourly + all travel, food, car rentals, hotel stays, and they pad the week for "just in case time" on these types of projects. No idea who K-Force is though. Never heard of them.
sexyshingle@reddit
They should ask Claude to do their migration... first. lol
Ragepower529@reddit
Honestly younger me would have taken that role. Traveling in the company dime is fun. There’s so many interesting places you get to visit and grab a feel for. Traveling for work actually helped me choose where I wanted to live and settle down. I would I could have had another year and some chances to explore the west coast.
Depends on the travel policies and where has to be your home base I would take this role. When I was traveling for like 3-4 months at a time my savings went through the roof. Since the only thing I had to buy some food for the weekend when I was home. ( I lived with my parents)
But then I finally expected a single location offer after I found a place I wanted to move you from traveling ( since I was able to stay in the same location for like 35 days at a time it was like living there )
ubermonkey@reddit
Constant travel is only fun if you have no life in your home city.
Ragepower529@reddit
Pretense being younger me. You’re taking stuff out of context and also I grew up in southwest Florida. So that is not exactly the epitome of having a life at a home city. Unless you wanna go to the beach, then you’re thriving.
At least when I did it, I made the most of it being 22 and 23 at the time, it was nice to go out to bars meet people do some networking. Plus, I was allowed $100 per day budget. For food.
But now I would not travel at all, but then again I’m at a different stage in life.
Cormacolinde@reddit
You’re not traveling on the company dime. You are expected to cover your travel and lodging on that pitiful salary.
ubermonkey@reddit
You're high. In the worst case scenario, it's reimbursed -- and the hire gets the credit card points and (candidly) credit rating boost for carrying it on their personal card. I did this for years (and as a result Amex loves me).
Difficultopin@reddit
The younger you wouldn't have been hired for lack of experience…
TechnologyMatch@reddit
that gig sounds brutal. 90% travel plus a massive vmware‑to‑hyper‑v migration for $34–$46/hr is way off market for the skill set they’re asking. calling it “remote” while basically living on planes just adds insult
roles like that usually pay double if not more, especially with scvmm expertise and architect‑level responsibility. packaging it as senior engineer but expecting architect duties is classic bait‑and‑switch
Sea-Aardvark-756@reddit
We pay nearly this high for senior helpdesk/junior admin roles...
harbengerprime@reddit
hiring?
usps_lost_my_sh1t@reddit
you're about to get a ChatGOT2. 0 infrastructure
Rough-Bank-8638@reddit
Not sure what "ChatGOT2.0 infrastructure" refers to specifically, but if you're hinting at AI-generated configs or automation tools being pushed into production without proper review, that's a real concern. A lot of teams get sold on speed and end up with brittle, untestable setups.
Infrastructure needs solid change management and observability, not just generated templates. If you're dealing with fintech specifically, the compliance and audit requirements make rushed rollouts even riskier. We wrote about this in the context of Nigeria's fintech infrastructure on our site, but the principle applies anywhere.
Would be curious what specific tooling or trend you're seeing that prompted the comment.
progenyofeniac@reddit
Sheesh. Making double that while doing less work 100% from home. Good luck to those clients.
JohnMLTX@reddit
are yall hiring lmao
DeadStockWalking@reddit
I'll do it for $400 per hour with all travel time billed.
Mental_Beginning_698@reddit
I've been seeing this for a while. Everyone wants Architects (network) for their cloud repatriation for $60-80/hr.
I'm not even looking anymore. Basically have spine/leaf SDN evpn/bgp IP fabric skills but everyone is throwing money at GPU's forgetting there is .....frankly ......roads that they run on. I'm not going down the path of doormat pt II of a career. So yea. Fingers crossed that corporate america can pull this off Just kidding. I hope it blows up in thier faces
HTX-713@reddit
Contact the recruiter and ask who the client is and then contact one of the clients recruiters and see if you can get a direct hire job
RCTID1975@reddit
No recruiter is going to tell you that without a resume submission.
And once you do that, you'll be restricted from applying direct.
HTX-713@reddit
Not true at all. I get cold calls from contractors all the time and the first thing I ask is who the client is. 9/10 times they tell me right away.
ITaggie@reddit
They were talking about competent recruiters, and most recruiters are not competent.
HTX-713@reddit
🤣😭😂
Tex-Rob@reddit
Translation, $70k a year + OT for 100% travel. I did a project like this in 2007 for BAE Systems for the DOJ. I was paid $78k and made time and a half for OT, and there was a lot of OT. OT made my pay for 10 months well into six figures. I was the technical team lead for moving them off old Microsoft software, we'll just leave it at that. My guess is the 10% non travel time is the design phase, where the design document for the migration is outlined.
I would want to know why it's only $46 an hour, appears to be 1.35x pay for OT, which is weird.
I wanted to dump on this, but honestly it's probably easier than the work I did. This might sound complex, but it's going to be a lot of grunt work, and this isn't the lead. To me, this job is for someone who has been doing help desk, and wants to level up to the next stage of their career. If you're making 30-40k doing entry level help desk, this is the contract for you in my eyes.
Geminii27@reddit
They're welcome to want things all they like.
Nnyan@reddit
I love companies that insist you stay current but offer no training budget.
GhostDan@reddit
Pretty standard for kforce, probably why they are rated so poorly.
Jmc_da_boss@reddit
They aren't trying to hire anyone at that rate, they are trying to say they cant hire anyone.
Magic_Neil@reddit
Travel for this should be 9%, not 90%. Everything can be done remotely, and fairly quickly.. yeah, I’d probably want to be on-site to get things racked and make sure it’s cabled properly, but after that there’s really no reason to besides the first cutover of critical stuff (DC’s et all) and the victory lap.
fresh-dork@reddit
onsite with a guy or two you can vet locally and then talk to over a phone connection seems pretty normal - agree on the 9%
moldyjellybean@reddit
Man unless you are talking to yourself on the other end I find it super inefficient
Magic_Neil@reddit
Nah, they’re just there to monitor the gear. Could just be a senior helpdesk guy.
FreakySpook@reddit
Could be an edge deployment so potentially a lot of travel. A lot of orgs are moving from vSphere ROBO to HV or KVM because they don't want to do VCF-Edge.
Stonewalled9999@reddit
respectfully, IDRAC/ILO you can remotely flip a host from ESX to Hyper-V and shuffle things around I've done 50ish servers (clustered) like this.
phobug@reddit
Are you getting payed for the time outside the office? So 8 hours of sleep at the hotel = 272-368 usd?
soothaa@reddit
It's so they can claim they can't find an American to do it and hire an H1B.
BoysenberryDue3637@reddit
Does 90% travel mean remote now? Remote means no/limited travel.
That whole posting is a stretch. This is a job for a consulting group to perform this migration.
Pale-Price-7156@reddit
That's sad, considering KForce is probably charging the client $200+ an hour.
AV1978@reddit
Kforce doesn’t typically charge those kinds of rates. They probably are pre submitting at a little over $120 an hour. Every company these days seems to want to pay nothing on the contracting side
BigFrog104@reddit
my sh#tty MSP here is $280 an hour and they aren't even that good.
Pale-Price-7156@reddit
You may be more in the know than me.
I talked to KForce well over a decade ago on a project, and they were hitting us at $120-$150 hr back then.
AV1978@reddit
Yeah I’d agree with you on the past. These days though the name of the game seems to be how cheap can they get someone to do the work. At that rate they probably aren’t even really looking just justifying that they can’t find anyone in the us so they can hire abroad
R-EDDIT@reddit
Ding ding ding.
Cool_Bodybuilder_539@reddit
Typical staffing markup. Pocketing $150+ while the architect eats ramen on the road. Classic agency play. Hard pass.
moldyjellybean@reddit
Can’t trust a company called kforce. Its like every company called PatriotXYZ going to be 99.9% a scam
Stonewalled9999@reddit
hey if you work 100 hours weeks can get OK it might work well?
jon_the_red@reddit
I applied for a job without salary information. It was for Acorn Stairlifts. Posting stated you are #2 behind the CTO. Global travel for installs. Basically handling any and all escalation of issues globally. Said I was looking for $150k. Got rejection letter. Saw same job posted a month later with the salary. $60-70k is what they expect to pay someone.
xpkranger@reddit
Oh it's 'remote' alright... You'll be quite remote from your home and family.
BladeCollectorGirl@reddit
Kforce isn't the only one posting this requirement. It's insane.
90% travel..just no.
TeamInfamous1915@reddit
The only firm worse that KForce is Insight Global.
IT_Pawn@reddit
As someone who started as a contractor through KForce and worked with Insight Global peeps at the client company, you are 100% correct.