Massive bombshell. Anthropic co-founder Chris Olah warns that AI will displace human labor on a catastrophic global scale. He confirms tech elites have absolutely no mechanism to share the wealth, leaving the global poor completely abandoned to suffer. He is 100% accurate.

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Fabulous_Celery_1817@reddit

Ok this sucks. But now what we’ll live like the Amish. So buy your land now. Or pay it off. Or make a plan b and set up land out the country. Food. Water. I wonder how other countries are handling the AI and job crisis

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AtomGalaxy@reddit

I made this yesterday at Costco waiting for the guy to fix my glasses for free. Did I solve it? My other idea is if people want extra income there would be easy “Task Rabbit” jobs around the community like picking up trash for $10 an hour. This would be verified by AR glasses.

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AtomGalaxy@reddit

Here’s my solve for homelessness:

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Elegant_Duty_6148@reddit

Tech elites aren't war strategists. Once you miss a meal, you won't be on Facebook anymore. You won't be in the stock market either. Also - if you want to really prep - be realistic with your prepping. I mean ask yourself, when was the last time you didn't eat? How'd it make you feel?

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IncomingAxofKindness@reddit

They aren't planning on the stock market persisting. They are planning on self-sustaining bunkers with robots and small modular reactors. The rest of us will be outside with the fires, viruses, and toxic air/water.

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Zerodyne_Sin@reddit

The dumb thing about this plan, that I often repeat in other subreddits, is that these are pampered people who couldn't tolerate staying put during the pandemic. Staying in the bunker for a prolonged period would have them paint the walls with each other's entrails before long.

So good, I hope they keep building these bunkers. They don't have the mental fortitude since they've never had to endure any hardship and they're essentially building their tombs.

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ConfidentPilot1729@reddit

People like Karl, Thiel and musk are stoned as shit on meth, k and coke. They absolutely do not understand the hammer coming for them.

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IncomingAxofKindness@reddit

Designer virus could make the surface a little more empty for them to explore again at some point.
Their bunkers will not look like our bunkers.
I'm sure they'll have some crazy good yachts still, with drone escorts from the waterworld flotillas. They just have to worry about other techno lords coming at them.

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unknownpoltroon@reddit

Thats fine. We can weld the bunker doors shut and shit down the air vents. Lets see how self sustaining they really are.

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ConfidentPilot1729@reddit

And like that, we will get world peace.

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BuddhistNamedMarx@reddit

Gonna have to disable their ai powered auto targeting heat seaking turrets

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dodekahedron@reddit

Massive collective fart in the air vents

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PalePhilosophy2639@reddit

You have my po-tay-toes

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Geo_Geoff@reddit

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LISAN AL-GAIB

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Late_Sherbet5124@reddit

Lead them to paradise!

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IncomingAxofKindness@reddit

Just have to get past the kill bots and automous drones.

I think I have a slingshot in my go bag.

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Round-Medicine2507@reddit

The Zap Brannigan strategy can outdo those bots. He'll get a medal.

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nasnedigonyat@reddit

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Xenophonehome@reddit

I truly believe they will try to depopulate the earth once they think AI can automate their needs sufficiently. They will see the rest of the people as a burden and rationalize mass murder for their vision of the future.

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positivedisobedience@reddit

So again, what's the point of all this AI? To make 500 people happy while the rest of us 9 billion suffer?

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IncomingAxofKindness@reddit

They know end stage capitalism leads to either fascism or Luigi so they are trying to do everything they can to prep for that.

AI is just a tool for them to achieve the technology they need to build their little fifedoms.

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Geo_Geoff@reddit

Yes. To maximize profits for shareholders.

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Geo_Geoff@reddit

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All of us when that happens.

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immrw24@reddit

been incorporating 24-72 hour fasts every few months into my routine so my body gets used to switching from glycolysis to ketosis with ease.

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Sorry_End3401@reddit

This. Very smart idea. I’ve done the same and my body feels better for it. I’m also downloading edible plants in my region to see how many tasty ways to make dandelions. Plus which mushrooms are a no go and a yes

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splycedaddy@reddit

This is why the push for ai drones. Just build an army and the hungry are back at square one

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reallygoodcommenter@reddit

So fucking annoying that AI ceos market their product this way… insane vampiric pseudoscientific con artists

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Cold_Specialist_3656@reddit

Have you used the paid models?

They are smarter than 90% of humans I talk to. And more capable. I've automated around 90% of my job already.

Checks my emails, makes me presentations, records and transcribes meetings and gives me important parts summary. Updates my calendar.

Nearly every doubter I talk to hasn't used the enterprise models that cost $500 a month. They're orders of magnitude more capable that the free ChatGPT crap

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Creepindeath81@reddit

Not not to sound rude, but if 90% of your job is checking emails, taking meeting notes, making presentations and updating a calendar, you're the target demographic AI is replacing.

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reallygoodcommenter@reddit

Yeah this person has a bullshit job. Nothing wrong with that, but their comment doesn’t leave me optimistic ab their proficiency.

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Geo_Geoff@reddit

I mean, even then, all of those requirement a competent human component. Have you ever read those AI dictations from calls? Littered with wrong words and misunderstandings. Oh, it’s now summarized and into a word doc with all that gibberish?

What about body language, and how that relates to conversations? Is AI reading facial reactions to the conversations around the room?

Checking emails? You mean literally having a conversation (digital, albeit) with another human being? We’re just going to outsource any human connection? Also, emails are typically admissible as evidence into court. You want to rely on an LLM to have your best interests and “represent you” in written fashion?

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reallygoodcommenter@reddit

Yes, but I also assign virtually 0 value to your or my anecdotal experience with the tech. Not at all the way I would approach any sort of analysis irt a sweeping claim like the one made here.

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Geo_Geoff@reddit

Yes. I have. It still sucks.

I have paid access to all Claude and ChatGPT models. I’m glad you are outsourcing your critical thinking and mental fortitude to suck off and shill for billionaires who will write you off as the “cost of business”.

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mamamackmusic@reddit

I think there is little difference between these tech CEOs and evangelical preachers at this stage. All bluster and hype with little substance.

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reallygoodcommenter@reddit

Yup it's not all that far from a form of prosperity gospel at this point.

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Elon_is_a_Nazi@reddit

Simple. Tax AI companies and mega corporations on 75% of their profits and close all tax loopholes they use to not pay taxes. That and make it illegal if your company has a take home profit of over 250 million its illegal to eliminate jobs. Found skirting or using loopholes, lifetime minimum prison sentences for executives and board members

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JackBlackBowserSlaps@reddit

Can we get some unicorns thrown in as well? ☺️

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TheWolfMaid@reddit

I know this is a joke and it's important to laugh in the face of all this just to stay sane....but it's this dismissive attitude, that the changes noted above are "impossible", that is a huge part of the problem and why this stuff is still happening to us.

Like this is the bare minimum we should be accepting, it shouldn't be a fairytale!

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Elon_is_a_Nazi@reddit

Would never happen. But at what point does the united states get some worker and employment protections??

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Geo_Geoff@reddit

Fucking exactly. Don’t let others shit on your visions for the future because they can’t get past the fact we all never be BILLIONAIRES.

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TeranOrSolaran@reddit

Companies have never shared the wealth. It always landed on governments to save the people.

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Green-Collection-968@reddit

I'm a Political Scientist and the mega rich are investing their wealth in two things, robots to replace their workers and terminators to replace their soldiers with armies of soulless, emotionless killing automatons.

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ClownMorty@reddit

This is AI marketing.

All we hear about is how AI is smarter than PhDs, is getting 2x more intelligent every 4 months, and will replace all labor. For like 4 years now. It ain't doing shit.

Meanwhile, all I hear about from engineers is how it sucks at complex tasks. How they can't keep up with the sheer amount of bad code it produces and instead of reducing labor demand it increased it.

AI is slightly better stack exchange and more costly automation than regular labor. And that's it. It's barely a better encyclopedia, and they're trying to market it as revolutionary.

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agent_flounder@reddit

Totally agree.

Yeah spend any time on some of the developer subs and you see AI ain't all that, currently. Yes it can enhance productivity. But it still needs skilled developers to carefully oversee and guide it, else you wind up with a pile of garbage code full of bugs and security holes that can't be maintained by human or ai.

That isn't to say it won't get better. It very likely will because companies are highly motivated to make that happen.

But the real costs aren't being passed on to customers yet. I think we are still in the peak hype part of the hype cycle and companies are giving it away to boost adoption. We are bound to hit the trough of disillusionment in the next few years as funding runs low and AI companies have to charge enough to stay afloat.

For AI to succeed in business, it has to either become worth the real costs that customers will be billed and/or costs will have to miraculously plummet. How worth it AI is will depending on each scenario.

Just like computers weren't viable for everything in the beginning, but became more justifiable and thus ubiquitous as manufacturing costs reduced, I think we may see the same thing with AI eventually.

Or maybe it will take too long and never achieve permanent widespread adoption and another disruptive technology will become the new hotness. Idk.

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Sorry_End3401@reddit

Do you think they are just saying this over and over to justify paying people less? Propaganda to make people think any at any job should be taken?

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A-Supurb-Owl@reddit

I have a friend whose husband works in some sort of software engineering and systems management. The higher ups late last year set AI to code a bunch of stuff that broke everything. Her husband ended up working overtime for months to try to put things back together and basically had a nervous breakdown and had to take FMLA or some other kind of leave because of the workload stress. Totally preventable.

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ZenBacle@reddit

Claude code is surprisingly good when you comparmentalize it's tasks.

If you tell it to make an app it's a roll of the dice. And you're going to spend days trying to figure out it's abstractions and "optimizations".

When you use it to test new concepts, write smaller libraries/functions, help you plan the architecture, and QA test it easily replaces a small team of jr coders.

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Designer-Ruin7176@reddit

Preach louder

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pile_of_fish@reddit

Ai is a great tool - it can help capable people do more and be faster and more accurate. It absolutely cant replace high-skill folks. It can, kind of, replace junior folks - but imperfectly, and in a way that creates a profound lack of skill 10 years from now. Im way more worried about the damage done by an ai bubble than by an ai takeover.

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floppypeter@reddit

this is actually the wrong way to look at it. AI can do the tasks of high skill folks, it can do the tasks of junior folks--it can't do their jobs. LLMs are limited because they are unable to understand the outcomes of their actions. Like fundamentally they are doing a statistical analysis of what you expect to want to hear. Gross simplification. But the point is they cant plan to take an action and then predict the result before taking it like humans can--until that happens--your job is safe.

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chunwookie@reddit

Worried about this but also the c-suite not understanding that the skilled workers beneath them are still necessary for daily operation. This was already a long standing problem as skilled workers are expensive and tend to have pesky expectations of things like benefits and unionization. If they get it in their heads they can replace people with Ai warnings about it not ready and a bad idea might not be enough to stop them. Which could lead to layoffs and shitty implementation of critical services. Lots of companies have been using ai to replace customer service with mixed results. Dealing with customer service ai is an annoyance but manageable. Im not looking forward to the first time we have to start dealing with it for something critical.

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Time_Ad8557@reddit

Im curious - Which junior folks can it replace that you have seen because I’ve worked across three companies they have implemented various types of ai and have yet to see this.

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TinnAnd@reddit

Mech engineer here. I can use AI to generally replace 95% or my materials engineers questions. I use it to review documentation and compare products. I can use it to run through hand calcs (i have to check them but it gets me 90% there in like a tenth of the time. So far it greatly reduces the time it takes me to get through design work so I don't need the extra 2 engineers it would've taken to get the same work done in the same time.

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screen_storytelling@reddit

I've seen it replace roles that are primarily administrative and data entry. A company that I worked for a few years ago recently switched from an offshore 24/7 accounting firm in India to an AI software that does the same thing.

Also it's massively disrupting the CGI / Animation world in advertising. Not sure how much it's affecting feature film and episodic narrative. But in commercial world, instead of spending tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars on human labor filming and then computer generating and animating products (ex: makeup, fragrance, food products) it's now being done in AI for a miniscule fraction of the price. Specifically seeing this in the types of ads that wouldn't necessarily show human beings anyways, things that are "tabletop" and "texture" work. You often still need to feed it a few images of the actual product being sold but then it can be prompted and trained to create a whole ad campaign over the course of a week or two, that would've taken months to do a few years ago.

Actually now that I think about it and type it out, also storyboard artists, graphic designers, and junior level art directors in the advertising world are losing their jobs to AI. A single talented "AI Artist" can support several creative directors simultaneously to generate creative references for their ideas in a fraction of the time that it used to take entire teams of graphic designers and art directors to cook up.

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Time_Ad8557@reddit

Thanks yes I can see storyboarding being an issue now that you’ve mentioned it.

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floppypeter@reddit

THIS!!!! I work in the industry. AI will absolutely change our lives it will not take all the jobs and usher in a wasteland. There are certainly things to fear about it but like the idea that they are close to AGI and humans will be obsolete is insane. The tech is not good enough for that--nowhere near it.

Stuff like this is 100000% marketing.

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turbospeedsc@reddit

you really need to start using it beyond simple prompts, the last few months it has become crazy good, the things you can build using it are fascinating and scary at the same time.

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ClownMorty@reddit

I'm an expert in my field, and I can tell you it's not that good at what I do. That's for damn sure.

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turbospeedsc@reddit

You need to think about it more as in a tool building tool.

You don't have it do your work, you use it to code the tools for you to automate stuff that your work on.

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Round-Medicine2507@reddit

They made these same arguments in the 1950s. Granted we are much closer, but all the products still stink and have no demand, they supply.is being shoved into market with little need and price is higher than labor. The fact that they are saying there is going to be all this never ending cheap labor means their hypothesis is already self defeating as the humans will be cheaper than the data centers, which won't be as high quality either.

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Rooooben@reddit

And at the same time I hear office workers saying “all I do now is take requests and feed them into ChatGTP and copy the answer and send it back.

While you think it’s doing nothing, these office workers are copy/pasting themselves out of jobs en masse.

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ClownMorty@reddit

I also have heard horror stories about companies making projections based on AI hallucinations including building out offices in areas where there was actually no business because AI made spreadsheets told them it was a good idea.

The fact is you have people using tech they don't understand for important tasks. They'll lose their jobs thanks to AI, but they won't be replaced by AI.

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theRandomestRandom@reddit

Eh some of the frontier models are pretty good at complex tasks and it’s already proven to be pretty good at pattern recognition when properly utilized. There are certainly a number of industries where it could replace people.

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Ok_Profile175@reddit

It's not consistently good at complex tasks or pattern recognition. So no, it really won't replace many industries that require any level of consistent accuracy.

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ClownMorty@reddit

I've been hearing this for years. And a few years ago I'd have agreed.

But, I have connections at a big tech company that is actively trying to replace employees with AI, and they haven't been able to. And this is with a job type you'd think would be very susceptible to replacement.

In fact, even as AI is getting orders of magnitude better (allegedly), companies I interact with are getting cagier about it.

The best they can hope for is keeping ceos on board by promising they'll be able to cut their entire labor force. And that's how we get videos like the one above.

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shivaswrath@reddit

As a PhD it’s still dog shit. I am constantly steering it. This is the case at least in Pharma.

Even with me steering it, it has limited abilities to deploy or redeploy the memory skills without a prompt.

We are a solid 10 years away from me being replaced…at least on the Pharma R&D side.

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Ok_Profile175@reddit

Came here to say this.

AI is a liability to companies. Anthorpic's most accurate model workflows, under perfect conditions doesn't get above 92%. In most jobs 8% of your work being wrong will get you fired.

This is all marketing to get investment to continue to grow the bubble. AI companies are relying on the fact that C-Suite and VPs don't actually have to produce accurate content for their jobs. They have people who will fix or ignore the mistakes.

A LOT of companies that replaced employees with AI have gone back to employees with AI supporting those employees.

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PolyglotTV@reddit

Let's be honest. Its much bettetr than stack exchange, and it is much better than an encyclopedia. It is getting better at complex tasks, but you are also essentially right.

Crucially, it can't make decisions on its own. Someone still has to guide it and make decisions for it. That person still has to know enough to make those decisions. So essentially all AI does for that person is help them research and reach those decision points faster.

Which IS incredibly valuable, but it's not like, a society collapsing revolution, or whatever.

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nandoboom@reddit

AInis just an expensive tool. Is not ready to replace huge amount of people, but is like electrification. The Internet its a multiplier for some users, and yes people will be left behind

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Geo_Geoff@reddit

This so much. It’s great for generalization and bulllshitting. Asking it to do complex analysis is pulling teeth because I have to explain EVERYTHING and then have to proof EVERYTHING.

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mr_bumsack@reddit

Anyone in Big tech over the last 5 years has attended countless "All hands" that made this clear. First it was jokes about Software engineers being replaced. Now it's just reality.

The whole marketing pitch is to replace workforce, as a product.

It's simple. Every single tech company has a major existential threat if they don't join the arms race. The best explanation I've heard is taking off in a plane without landing gear. How we come down? Figure that out later.

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WSBpeon69420@reddit

So don’t use it as an individual and don’t work with companies or products that do

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TheWolfMaid@reddit

"Tech elites have absolutely no mechanism to share the wealth" that's a wild take. Are you kidding me? What do you mean "no mechanism"?!

Children in daycare have the "mechanism" figured out. Every other living adult knows how to share. If you or I were handed obscene wealth and we wanted to share it, somehow I feel like we'd find a way pretty darn fast. There's a million creative ideas out there.

I'm absolutely exhausted with this "we just can't possibly give anything while we're stealing hand over fist from every living thing on the planet" line.

Unacceptable.

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flaginorout@reddit

I don't think it'll be that bad

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lazyshmuk@reddit

People have been saying this was the end game for AI for literal decades. They moved forward with it regardless because they do NOT care about the people that are being replaced. The US is a country that loves to tell you that helping poor people is too expensive and there's nothing that can be done about it. It's bred a culture of generational NIMBYs and they pay a lot of money to tell you that other people trying to get by are your enemies. It's cheaper that way.

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Geo_Geoff@reddit

I mentioned something similar to this sentiment the other day in the weekly discussion thread.

I will advocate against any reduction in workforce to the industry I am employed in, but also any I work with in an advisory capacity.

Pay people more. Hire more people. Keep people on staff.

I won’t use AI in my work. In fact, I specifically advertise that I don’t use AI in my reports and analysis. I am not going to coopt AI to make my job “easier” at the expense of literal lives of other people.

Not to even consider the environmental damage we are going to see with increased data centers and AI.

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z3RoC0oL11388633@reddit

I don't use AI. Why would I use something thats contributing to the downfall of society..oh wait ..I'm on reddit. Lol jk. Fun times!

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Queen-Emmah@reddit

Reddit has been around longer than these AI data centres, nice try giving out that misinformation though!

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z3RoC0oL11388633@reddit

I'm totally against the AI surveillance centers! No misinformation, just sarcasm!

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Queen-Emmah@reddit

Okay alright just use this next time

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z3RoC0oL11388633@reddit

Ok Queen!

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Geo_Geoff@reddit

Also you don’t see my ass posting my emails, work projects, personal art projects, and other data into Reddit to be stolen and regurgitated!

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impermissibility@reddit

I have the same stance in my work, too.

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Dangerous-School2958@reddit

You’ve taken the high road. Sadly, I think you’re alone

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Geo_Geoff@reddit

Apes are stronger together.

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Organic-Specific-500@reddit

Admirable. I agree with you. I also think it’s coming no matter what, and what we really need is a lot more clean electricity in a sensible way, batteries and energy storage, and to not use potable fresh water to cool down equipment. Locate these things far away from residential areas and isolate the noise pollution.

Users need to use it efficiently - paying for compute will probably work itself out? I hope.

We need to transition folks to jobs (with higher pay) in education and healthcare. Humans caring for humans. Let automation and ai increase quality of life and free up people’s time, but share that wealth and reinvest it in people.

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Geo_Geoff@reddit

I agree. If we are going to push for AI as hard as we are, we have to make some steps to address the incoming fallout.

The US is already one of the “richest countries” in the world. There exists enough money to make things essentially post-scarcity.

Increase access to social services. With jobs disappearing and our economy structured on healthcare being provided by the employer, less people will have health insurance.

INSTEAD WE HAVE STATES INSTITUTING WORK REQUIREMENTS FOR MEDICAID AND MEDICARE. WHEN JOBS ARE DISAPPEARING.

What the actual fuck are we doing?

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demonmonkeybex@reddit

Tax these fucking billionaires because our lives depend upon it. Keep fighting against data centers. Keep fighting for the environment. And ffs keep voting BLUE!

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Plaid_Piper@reddit

In the realm of class warfare, this is the wealthy's final solution.

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Dear-Swordfish2385@reddit

Guy whose job is to sell you AI says AI is unstoppable

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Raclettegring@reddit

That was obvious from the start. Only the truly naive ones actually believed that the government would give them money to live a cool work free life while their robot butler helped around the house.

The reality will be mass poverty, riots and whatnot.

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FacebookNewsNetwork@reddit

I really think it’s hype.

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Least_Homework_9720@reddit

Respectfully, they need everyone to believe this in order to justify the price and growth of their product. Don’t listen to them. The technology isn’t that good or that capable of entirely replacing human workers and it may never be, for a lot of reasons. They’re not able to build data centers fast enough to scale it, and no one wants them built. They’re going to have to raise the price of their tech on an astronomical scale just to be profitable, and then there’s also data poisoning and the issue of increased ai content causing ai to get trained on ai.

It may not go away, but I just don’t think this tech is capable of doing what they’re saying unless they suddenly figure out a more sustainable way to scale it.

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bohemianprime@reddit

The Digital dust bowl

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TestTheTrilby@reddit

Tsarist Russia style fall could happen

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Various-Wait-6771@reddit

The mechanism exists. It’s called taxation.

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Barrack64@reddit

Hell of a sales pitch. This is the equivalent of ‘buy now before it’s all gone’.

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Sean1916@reddit

There’s a reason we’ve been seeing the elites buying homes in New Zealand or building bunkers. They know something is coming and they intend to be the ones to survive it.

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churchbeans@reddit

Not seeing any comments about this but all the red hats in the audience are because he is talking to the Vatican as the pope releases a big anti-AI encyclical. The general tone of the event is not pro-AI but it seems that in the interest of dialogue (??) they did have Olah talk. The encyclical itself is worth a read.

https://www.ncronline.org/vatican/vatican-news/pope-leo-present-his-encyclical-ai-alongside-anthropic-co-founder

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joaquinsolo@reddit

AI only replaces us in a world where we have stopped valuing each other.

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--John_Yaya--@reddit

If everyone loses their jobs because of robots and AI, who will buy all the products that robots ans AI will be producing? With no jobs, no one will have any money to buy anything. That dynamic makes replacing people with robots kind of pointless, doesn't it? Seems self-defeating.

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Gentle_Capybara@reddit

Line goes up. Quarter profits. That's all that matters. There's no long term planning in the market nowadays.

The true goal for them is to achieve the "too big to fail status", specially through defense and policing contracts. Then they can break, knowing that the Countries will pay the bill.

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matzateo@reddit

They will produce what they need and buy them from each other. I don't understand why you think the poor are actually important to them in this dynamic.

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SoberBobMonthly@reddit

Not really a problem since their 'vision' is not going to work.

Ignoring that AI can't actually do things like 'cut hair' or 'insert IV', its not going to work over the world. Hell it barely works locally. Any business that uses it and it causes its failure, will be replaced with a business and workers smart enough to not use it.

I'm a damn dirty socialist type, and even I can see how the cold hand of capitalism and true production will absoloutely bash the shit out of AI hype.

Pushing it back into being the actual medium grade productivity tool that it is, is what will actually occur.

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engineered_academic@reddit

correction: We have no peaceful mechanism to share the wealth. There are a lot more of us than there are of them.

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Geo_Geoff@reddit

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Dazzling_Outcome_436@reddit

"Remember, there will come a time when the poor, the oppressed, will only have the rich and the greedy to eat."

-- QZB, "The Banker"

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peanutbutter4all@reddit

Move to direct democracy! No more AIPAC and rigged elections. The public will now choose to represent themselves at all times.
Equal access based economy! No more people owning the means of production and everyone else as customers.
Meritocracy! No more inheriting $10 billion and acres of land for having the right family name. Those who sacrifice their time and sweat to make society function, should get more than the rest.
Environment and resource surveillance, not people surveillance! Track our impact on the environment and our food to ensure safe homes protected from natural disasters and a changing climate.

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ComfortableNumb9669@reddit

Tech bro bullshit being framed as a fact is very interesting indeed. This guy will literally make bank with statements like these because the market cap of his company goes up. Meanwhile their "AI" can't tell you 2+2 unless it was specifically "taught" that the answer is 4.

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susanrez@reddit

This is hilarious. The wealthy are only wealthy because we allow it. Please refer to the French Revolution.

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RatGodFatherDeath@reddit

The permanent underclass

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slartbangle@reddit

So we can replace human labour on broad fronts, freeing people to live in greater ease and plenty than before. Much like the invention of cooking, or shelter.

If there's 'no mechanism to share', we can probably fix that issue.

Especially as it seems that that is the only barrier to the next golden age.

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418Miner@reddit

AI-enabled agents are good and getting better week by week. don't kid yourself that it's all slop.

forget mass unemployment. aside from the height of the COVID pandemic unemployment in the US hasn't gotten above 11% in the last hundred years. what happens to the economy if unemployment rises to 20% due to less need for white collar workers and incremental productivity gains due to automation like automated semis and warehouse robots? the consumer economy would crater. that might well be enough to trigger a crisis.

AI doesn't have to "replace everybody but the elites" to trigger economic catastrophe (bank failures, stock market crash, etc). maybe the breaking point is higher than 20%. it might be substantially lower.

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mystery_biscotti@reddit

I believe some of us on the sub use local models (open weights) as another tool in our toolbox for when SHTF. I'm certainly not replacing anyone with a tiny model. You can fine-tune the model locally to get it oriented toward things like prep. I can run one in a laptop charged by a solar panel. I can keep one that can view images and a database full of plant inages on my computer too, which helps if I need to identify something new and invasive.

My opinion is that we need a better plan than "winner take all" when it comes to AI. The fact is, companies only have plans for consolidating power and profit at any cost currently. The Pope has an encyclical letter "Magnifica Humanitas" that addresses the subject from a Catholic perspective, but as a non Catholic I found it interesting reading.

Could I become a Luddite, only stock up on books, etc? Yeah, people have done that for thousands of years. But I also find value in small, local tools of all types.

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ThaFresh@reddit

do the CEOs ever wonder what happens when their pool of income (ie regular people) dries up?

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sovietarmyfan@reddit

Doesn't the elite realize that the proles when unhappy, rebel?

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riquelm@reddit

And then they will spread the plague...COVID was just a a test

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Dissonant-Cog@reddit

First, SECourses sub is propaganda with ultimate intent to funnel people into its media sphere of influence. You’ll notice every title in that sub uses load language, everything is “massive” or “bombshell.” It’s leveraging other propaganda and conspiracy sources such as Prof Jiang channel and Tucker Carlson to create a specific narrative.

People on here have already hinted at the question, is this a marketing technique to get more business stakeholders to “buy-in” to the notion that replacing their human labor, the expensive, inefficient automatons made of flesh and bone, always complaining, always demanding more, more pay better conditions, with cheaper, more efficient versions made of silicon and plastic an inevitability.

There is no mechanism for some future possibility because it’s not certain. It’s also placing unearned power into the hands of tech companies, these are mechanisms for wealth extraction, nothing more, governance should be kept within the scope of government, there are no mechanisms in place because the people have yet to demand it. If there people do not make a demand that involves a vision of the future, one will be manufactured for you, and massive amounts of resources will be spent to convince you of its primacy as the only viable option.

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ReasonablePossum_@reddit

"Bombshell"???? lmao

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Optimal-Kick-3446@reddit

That why you fight back any ai robots you destroy

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wolfhound27@reddit

The French had a solution to the wealth distribution

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monFlyDay@reddit

Hey - remember when blockchain was going to collapse the global financial market? Yea - how’d that go?

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JohnnycompUtah@reddit

Anthropic doing doomerism while building the thing they claim will cause endless disaster? You don’t say.

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funsized43@reddit

I like how the billionaires pitch Universal Basic Income, but they can't even talk about paying more taxes.

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FIRElady_Momma@reddit

The pitch it because they know that no government will go for it.

It's a smokescreen.

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Za_Lords_Guard@reddit

Or increasing employee pay.

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Particular-Policy513@reddit

This is not a bombshell, we knew this, global warming is destroying the world, a small percentage will get to go with them to the stable areas when the AMOC collapses and the wars start, it wont be you.

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HarryBallsanya420@reddit

The only hypothetical benefit for replacing labor would be if workers owned the workplace because they could benefit from that circumstance, it would be their choice and they could have more free time. Yet that’s not the cause.

Instead we have top down control over labor by a small subset of the population that has also pushed the idea hyper individualism being virtuous instead of the government providing safety nets for systemic failures.

There is no political will for universal basic income. They’ll just call it a handout to the lazy during what they’re saying is going to be a devastating change of how labor operates in this country.

There are some glaring contradictions that emerge from displacement of large swaths of labor in a service economy.

I don’t think anyone really thinks that far out. But regardless we this is the end result of a two party system that actively manages people’s expectations of what’s politically possible so people expect nothing, blame themselves for economic failures, and now you want to displace them with nothing there to help them.

Hungry people won’t stay hungry for long.

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ExtensionMoose1863@reddit

What do you mean we have no mechanism to share lol

2 pretty easy ways off the top... Tax it or have everyone have an ownership stake (stocks). I thought these guys were smart

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MrCorporateEvents@reddit

This is just an Anthropic ad more or less.

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FIRElady_Momma@reddit

But it isn't aimed at the workforce.

It's aimed at CEOs.

And it's working.

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scruffman99@reddit

I dont trust the gay lisp

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Big_Fortune_4574@reddit

They sell you this “catastrophe” so you wont notice the actual catastrophe this industry will unleash on the global economy by being a complete waste of money.

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rodimustso@reddit

They 100% have a way, and they've been testing it. Social credit score, they want what Beijing has across all of America... obviously the rich elite are exempt from it though

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hourefugee@reddit

Of course they’re going to say that, his wallet is tied directly to promising it will do everything. They’ve bet the farm that cramming ever greater numbers of GPUs at the model is going to grant them some insurmountable competitive advantage.

I’ll be that guy, this whole thing is going to ram into a wall and blow up in their faces.

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Wise_Artichoke6552@reddit

AI man whose check depends on AI says AI is the best and all the cool, beautiful, smart people are giving him lots and lots of money. So much money that if you don't chip in, they'll leave you in the dust, if not kill you outright. So get scared, poors, because my produce is oh so clever and much more wonderful than you.

Wake me up when Anthropic can mop and make burgers at a human pace and without an anonymous indian pilot. Insulated rich people have no idea how complicated the world is, they just see that if that chant AI three times in the bathroom mirror, money appears.

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VinnieVidiViciVeni@reddit

It’s fucking wild to move forward a release something knowing there’s a huge probability of cataclysm.

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No-Professional-1884@reddit

It’s only wild if you’re not a shareholder. Then, it’s called increasing profitability.

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VinnieVidiViciVeni@reddit

I mean, yes, as far as short and medium term motivation, but what about after the magic line goes up and you have decimated the customer base for products and services?

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IncomingAxofKindness@reddit

Just design an AI to divy up all the resources, how easy is that??

Just make sure to program the "benevolence/malevolence" setting appropriately. Boy would that be a massive 'oopsie'.

Looking forward to techno utopia any day now. Already clearing out some room for my yacht on the side yard.

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neurobashing@reddit

Doesn't his argument rely on the (almost certainly false) premise that AI will continue to get better, the money will sort itself out instead of a bubble popping and wiping out most of the players, and people becoming broadly happy to use AI? The number of things that have to go "right" for that outcome to appear seems .... monumental

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