Well, everyone would die in the fight against Madara without her healing mark, and Chiyo wouldnt be alive to resurrect Gaara, but besides that, I don't think many changes would have happened. Maybe Naruto and Sasuke fight to completion at the 5 kage summit, but thats more up in the air.
This was the biggest plothole in the series, also relating to Gaara
'oh this kid has an atomic bomb on his back that will be the villages greatest weapon when he is an adult. Lets shunt him and hope he will not get emotionally unstable'
Bro if I had a Jinshurikii in my town this kid would eat at my place every day and then some
Well part of that was because they were afraid of his powers, but Gaara was also just a weapon for the village. Literally at this stage Gaara was the body while basically ninetails controlled it, but it was a perpetual cycle. Hate fuels anger, anger fueled hate.
Overall the Jinchuriki were treated well due to their abilities, the best being treated Killer B. But the people still had a reason to fear them when fourth mizukage was a literall fucking Tyrant.
Kids mirror the adults around them. It wasn’t really her fault she wasn’t taught better as a child. They really did leave it unaddressed in the long run thoigh
Sort of. Sakura still made fun of him for having no parents, in that particular scene she talked about how having no parents must've been the reason why he cant behave and all that
And then she encounters real poverty in the land of waves and learns from it. Maybe the show should have done six flashbacks of it and people would remember.
I don't understand why Naruto's orphan history is even not more famous.
His is "just" the Uchihas.
Naruto's is the fucking son of their village leaders, who died protecting said village. I don't remember if Naruto even was told he's a son of a leader, and the whole village respected their sacrifice by ostracizing and bullying said son. Who had a fox demon god inside that was just waiting to use his emotions to get out.
It was kept secret. Very few actually knew who his parents were, even though if anyone bothered to look and think about it, they probably would've been able to figure it out. It being kept secret is understandable to an extent as his parentage logically would've painted an even bigger target on his back, but he absolutely should've been told well before he actually found out.
Also, a lot of people seem to have very little to no knowledge on how this kind of thing even works in-universe, so it seems they thought he was literally the Ninetails, or they were scared of him being potentially unstable and dangerous (like Gaara, not that they knew who that was).
Also, Danzo is the biggest piece of shit and intentionally blabbed about his status before it could be kept under wraps apparently. Why you would risk your military deterrent like that isn't really clear, but the only reason I can think of is that it was a way to try and make Naruto dependent on him eventually, but that obviously didn't work out.
Japan has this weird thing about orphans being dishonored.
The case of Tokyo Rose comes to mind, a ww2 propagandist that was hired to demoralize the american troops over the radio. She sympathized with the west instead, so she would use cultural differences to get past the censors.
Case in point, she would call the US soldiers "Orphans" - which appeared to her Japanese superiors as a solid burn, while the US troops thought of it as an almost endearing nickname.
Sasuke: "end justify whatever mean" kind of guy. Black and white character with plenty black and not a lot of white. Traitor to his village and his people. Tries to literally kill Sakura and her friends 3 times if not more.
Tava vendo um post no insta da Sakura choramingando pq a Sarada ta se fudendo por ser filha do Sasuke ou alguma merda assim e eu to tipo: eh vc sabia oq tava procurando
Might as well mean she was dunking on the unpopular kid not because it's whay she thought but because she thought it would get her closer to her crush, which didn't work out and got her to cease
Everything bad about Sakura is just kishimoto not knowing how the fuck to write women characters, everything about her was molded around Sasuke even after he tried to murder her on various occasions. Not like he’s the only one guilty of it though, a lot of artists can’t write women, just look at MHA.
That’s why I don’t understand when they do live action remakes or adaptions in general people get pissed they are fleshed out . Invincible for example the comic was severely lacking the female characters having agency so the changes needed to happen
Nope, if the author only knows how to write women as PoS/annoying without making a compelling redemption arc or growth throughout the series and fans don't like them it's not the fans sexism that causes that. It's the author's fault.
What the fuck are you even talking about, I didn't say people dislike badly written female characters because they are sexist. I'm saying people don't want badly-written female characters to be fleshed out in adaptations because they are sexist.
Although I haven't personally seen much complaining about a character being too fleshed out on a series, I can see sexism being the motivation behind that complaining. Not always, but it could certainly be a plausible reason
Kishimito doesn't know how to write women in a way that is absolutely terrifying when you think it through
But self-righteous live actions show runner adapting a popular series and trying to fix it because they think they know better are the bane of that entire industry and the main reason why most live actions are shitty as fuck
If something you want to adapt doesn't please you then don't adapt it, give it to someone who respect the author's idea, it's not your duty to fix it you are not a fan fiction high school teenager writer, you have serious responsabilities as you will open that work to more people
She's presented that way at the beginning so we can see her character growth as they face challenges, which culminates with her being Tsunade's apprentice.
Things happening to her are not character growth. The author said himself that he felt he is doing a bad job with his female characters and avoided writing them whenever possible. Basically none of the couples have any chemistry last I checked. "I love how you loudly dedicate your life to a girl that rejected you over and over again, and never even look at me. Let's marry offscreen." -> This shit is the opposite of cinema.
There are a couple of couples with chemistry, like Asuma and Kurenai, or Juraiya and Tsunade. He does better with older people than teens, but they arent the focus of the story, so they basically never show up.
I was bullied everyday for three years in middle school by this one girl. She even kicked me in the ribs one time. In my junior year of high school she sent me a text message for the first time ever, she basically called apologizing for tormenting me and asked for forgiveness because she felt terrible.
I forgive her and I like to think Naruto would do the same
PutridLaw4680@reddit
Why does her face remind me of this😭😭😭
EatBaconDaily@reddit
Not to be a well achktually nerd, but they hated him because he’s the ninetails and a goof off, orphan stuff had nothing to do with it
Blue_Ascent@reddit
Wouldn't he annoy the shit out of them with stupid pranks? It's been a long time sonce I read it.
jollycompanion@reddit
True, anon is gay and regarded.
Doesn't change the fact Sakura is the most useless character. Her not existing, would not impact the story one bit.
AwkwardZac@reddit
Well, everyone would die in the fight against Madara without her healing mark, and Chiyo wouldnt be alive to resurrect Gaara, but besides that, I don't think many changes would have happened. Maybe Naruto and Sasuke fight to completion at the 5 kage summit, but thats more up in the air.
Zeth22xx@reddit
Yeah her whole arc was really disappointing. Even Hinata had a better arc and she was just a side character.
LectureQuirky3234@reddit
This was the biggest plothole in the series, also relating to Gaara 'oh this kid has an atomic bomb on his back that will be the villages greatest weapon when he is an adult. Lets shunt him and hope he will not get emotionally unstable' Bro if I had a Jinshurikii in my town this kid would eat at my place every day and then some
assasin1598@reddit
Well part of that was because they were afraid of his powers, but Gaara was also just a weapon for the village. Literally at this stage Gaara was the body while basically ninetails controlled it, but it was a perpetual cycle. Hate fuels anger, anger fueled hate.
Overall the Jinchuriki were treated well due to their abilities, the best being treated Killer B. But the people still had a reason to fear them when fourth mizukage was a literall fucking Tyrant.
NethalGLN@reddit
Other kids didn't know that at this point. Just picked up the disdain from their parents.
ZombieJasus@reddit
Kids mirror the adults around them. It wasn’t really her fault she wasn’t taught better as a child. They really did leave it unaddressed in the long run thoigh
VictorAst228@reddit
I mean who actually watches the source material anyway
Gary_FucKing@reddit
Should’ve known jjk would end in trash when we got baited by the triple domain bullshittery in the worst arc of the series.
RaoulLaila@reddit
Sort of. Sakura still made fun of him for having no parents, in that particular scene she talked about how having no parents must've been the reason why he cant behave and all that
ZachF8119@reddit
The children don’t get what that means and being an orphan means even your parents don’t like you.
I_Am_Sharticus_@reddit
It's crazy that they chose to show her as irredeemable this early into the series and then never fix that.
Siphillex@reddit
Sasuke tells her off in the same scene and she doesn't do this again btw
SparkPlug_Lib@reddit
And then she encounters real poverty in the land of waves and learns from it. Maybe the show should have done six flashbacks of it and people would remember.
UristMcMagma@reddit
Those were filler episodes so I skipped them
MerryZap@reddit
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SparkPlug_Lib@reddit
That episode is not filler.
whoisalireza@reddit
What exactly does he tekk her?
Siphillex@reddit
3rd chapter, Sakura makes fun of Naruto for being an orphan and sasuke tells her orphans are lonely and she disgusts him, something like that
hj17@reddit
She just kinda forgot that Sasuke is also an orphan
IISerpentineII@reddit
Famously an orphan, even
Misiok@reddit
I don't understand why Naruto's orphan history is even not more famous.
His is "just" the Uchihas.
Naruto's is the fucking son of their village leaders, who died protecting said village. I don't remember if Naruto even was told he's a son of a leader, and the whole village respected their sacrifice by ostracizing and bullying said son. Who had a fox demon god inside that was just waiting to use his emotions to get out.
IISerpentineII@reddit
It was kept secret. Very few actually knew who his parents were, even though if anyone bothered to look and think about it, they probably would've been able to figure it out. It being kept secret is understandable to an extent as his parentage logically would've painted an even bigger target on his back, but he absolutely should've been told well before he actually found out.
Also, a lot of people seem to have very little to no knowledge on how this kind of thing even works in-universe, so it seems they thought he was literally the Ninetails, or they were scared of him being potentially unstable and dangerous (like Gaara, not that they knew who that was).
Also, Danzo is the biggest piece of shit and intentionally blabbed about his status before it could be kept under wraps apparently. Why you would risk your military deterrent like that isn't really clear, but the only reason I can think of is that it was a way to try and make Naruto dependent on him eventually, but that obviously didn't work out.
Worldedita@reddit
Japan has this weird thing about orphans being dishonored.
The case of Tokyo Rose comes to mind, a ww2 propagandist that was hired to demoralize the american troops over the radio. She sympathized with the west instead, so she would use cultural differences to get past the censors.
Case in point, she would call the US soldiers "Orphans" - which appeared to her Japanese superiors as a solid burn, while the US troops thought of it as an almost endearing nickname.
whoisalireza@reddit
Based saske
TheKhalDrogo@reddit
I have never seen such a simp/gooner as sakura, entire personality base shifts on whatever Lasuke says in the moment
Ulanyouknow@reddit
AlmostAnchovy@reddit
I guess she has a kink. She even framed his photo from his Talib.... Akatsuki days.
0c_099@reddit
I really like how she represent a lot of woman in my country (Brasil) just falling in love with a literal criminal and 0 shame about it
Darievi@reddit
nunca pensei por esse lado mas nao mentiu
0c_099@reddit
Tava vendo um post no insta da Sakura choramingando pq a Sarada ta se fudendo por ser filha do Sasuke ou alguma merda assim e eu to tipo: eh vc sabia oq tava procurando
JessHorserage@reddit
Man...
home_rolled@reddit
☕️
PeikaFizzy@reddit
Once again hinata is better then Sakura by MILES
kamiloslav@reddit
Might as well mean she was dunking on the unpopular kid not because it's whay she thought but because she thought it would get her closer to her crush, which didn't work out and got her to cease
Mushiren_@reddit
Lasuke
ProbablyDizzy@reddit
Everything bad about Sakura is just kishimoto not knowing how the fuck to write women characters, everything about her was molded around Sasuke even after he tried to murder her on various occasions. Not like he’s the only one guilty of it though, a lot of artists can’t write women, just look at MHA.
jayeddy99@reddit
That’s why I don’t understand when they do live action remakes or adaptions in general people get pissed they are fleshed out . Invincible for example the comic was severely lacking the female characters having agency so the changes needed to happen
KSJ15831@reddit
C'mon... you do understand why people are pissed...
(It is sexism)
MinosML@reddit
Nope, if the author only knows how to write women as PoS/annoying without making a compelling redemption arc or growth throughout the series and fans don't like them it's not the fans sexism that causes that. It's the author's fault.
KSJ15831@reddit
What the fuck are you even talking about, I didn't say people dislike badly written female characters because they are sexist. I'm saying people don't want badly-written female characters to be fleshed out in adaptations because they are sexist.
MinosML@reddit
My bad, I misinterpreted the original comment.
Although I haven't personally seen much complaining about a character being too fleshed out on a series, I can see sexism being the motivation behind that complaining. Not always, but it could certainly be a plausible reason
LesserValkyrie@reddit
Kishimito doesn't know how to write women in a way that is absolutely terrifying when you think it through
But self-righteous live actions show runner adapting a popular series and trying to fix it because they think they know better are the bane of that entire industry and the main reason why most live actions are shitty as fuck
If something you want to adapt doesn't please you then don't adapt it, give it to someone who respect the author's idea, it's not your duty to fix it you are not a fan fiction high school teenager writer, you have serious responsabilities as you will open that work to more people
-esperanto-@reddit
Her loving saucegay after all of that is the most realistic fucking part for a white woman character
baz4k6z@reddit
She's presented that way at the beginning so we can see her character growth as they face challenges, which culminates with her being Tsunade's apprentice.
Neomataza@reddit
Things happening to her are not character growth. The author said himself that he felt he is doing a bad job with his female characters and avoided writing them whenever possible. Basically none of the couples have any chemistry last I checked. "I love how you loudly dedicate your life to a girl that rejected you over and over again, and never even look at me. Let's marry offscreen." -> This shit is the opposite of cinema.
AwkwardZac@reddit
There are a couple of couples with chemistry, like Asuma and Kurenai, or Juraiya and Tsunade. He does better with older people than teens, but they arent the focus of the story, so they basically never show up.
baz4k6z@reddit
I was referring more to her personal growth. As a couple with Sasuke, I agree with you, their story made zero sensell
ParticularConcept548@reddit
>Zero accountability
Realistic writing
HubrisOfApollo@reddit
i hate all de orfans in de whol worl
grodr2001@reddit
I was hoping for nacho Libre reference in here
ShiraLillith@reddit
Anon when anime depicts learned behavior.
The entire village was shunning Naruto because what he was and the kids picked it up.
JustChillin3456@reddit
It’s been 20 years FFS, forgive the teenage girl for being mean 🤦🏻♂️
Cocori-co@reddit
Lol,what a bully apologist.
JustChillin3456@reddit
It’s not that big a deal
I was bullied everyday for three years in middle school by this one girl. She even kicked me in the ribs one time. In my junior year of high school she sent me a text message for the first time ever, she basically called apologizing for tormenting me and asked for forgiveness because she felt terrible.
I forgive her and I like to think Naruto would do the same
TurKiball@reddit
Nahh i aint gonna
icantfeelmysegs@reddit
Nah, that's actually pretty accurate, children are pieces of shit
Reading_username@reddit
Literally watched a 20 month old toddler push an 18 month old toddler to the ground today, for literally no reason.
Ran up, looked at her for a minute, pushed her over, walked away.
Obvious from context they didn't even know each other, just sudden toddler beef.
Can confirm -- children are their own special breed of awful sometimes
ImVeryChil@reddit
I thought you were saying that you then ran up and pushed her over lol
Sen-oh@reddit
Incoming downvotes from people who have no kids
neoncumstainlol@reddit
I get she's a kid and all but fuck did they really think people were going to like her after this shit?
orphen369@reddit
Gotta blame studio Pierrot for this one, she dont even be saying all that in the manga
mamaguebo69@reddit
Sasuke should've killed her in this scene
richtofin819@reddit
Someone never read series of unfortunate events the 100% true to life retelling of the horrors of being an orphan.
While we are on the subject ahem
"Orphans living in the orphan shack, orphans living in the orphan shack"
3merite@reddit
She said this to the other orphan in her team btw
Practical_chair961@reddit
While their orphan sensei watches from afar btw
Gary_FucKing@reddit
Fucking kishi.
Ale4leo@reddit
Funny how she said that to the guy who had his entire family killed when he was a kid. You'd think that a fangirl like her would know that.
Skeeno-TV@reddit
i barely watched Naruto but i think it was a well known fact in their village that Sasukes family was murdered,insane thing that she doesnt know this
NoScrying@reddit
Wasn't she from a civvie family and emulated Ino because she was popular or something like that?
Tenko-of-Mori@reddit
Sakura is a hateable prick but there is nothing unrealistic about kids hating someone for this. Kids are brootal
Honeysenpaiharuchan@reddit
Average K-drama plot.
HunnyHunbot@reddit
Only one with parents on the team, so privileged
Riipp3r@reddit
Sakura was the queen of simps. Opinion invalidated.
THEPIGWHODIDIT@reddit
Canon greentext