What are some examples of U.S. regions or states where geographic isolation has led to strong accents or dialects?
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ohoh I wanna know
K_N0RRIS@reddit
Look up the gullah Islands of south carolina
lfxlPassionz@reddit
I wouldn't say it's isolation because practically every city has it's own.
However, my state has a distinct accent.
Here in Michigan we have a unique mix of culture and a very fast-paced way of speaking where our words are merged together. This is combined with the "Midwest accent" to create something very specific to Michigan.
Here's a few examples and reasons:
The majority of our cities are named based on native American words.
There's a long history of people escaping to Michigan to run away from violence in the south and often were trying to escape to Canada (a huge underground railroad spot btw) creating a weird mix of words inspired from Spanish, European, and French and other languages.
This is also partially due to trade routes that begin and end at the great lakes, which did isolate us in a way where we were a little late to join the United States compared to other states in this half of the country.
So we say things like:
Didja yeet? = Did you eat (some people even just say jeet)
Spanlish. It's common to hear Spanish words thrown into conversation even though we are mainly speaking English.
Pop = soda
Liddle = little (we often don't pronounce t sounds and a double t is pronounced as a d sound)
FindYourselfACity@reddit
In brooklyn, we say “jeet yet.”
The “liddle” is actually a glottal stop and also used with words like kitten, button, cotton, etc. it’s not a Michigan thing.
lfxlPassionz@reddit
It's possibly Brooklyn has a similar accent but it is not a basic United States thing. People in other states are often very confused by these things.
I know my in laws had a lot to learn when they moved here from California.
FindYourselfACity@reddit
A glottal stop is not part of a Brooklyn based accent. There’s glottal stops in all languages. Those words (and a few others) are ones included in the US English glottal stop.
“Jeet” is also a conjugation used all over the country, not just Brooklyn.
lfxlPassionz@reddit
Ope is not a Michigan only thing it's a Midwest thing but we use it way more in Michigan
Live-Medium8357@reddit
oh I love to ask Michiganders about the begs of milk
lfxlPassionz@reddit
Lol we don't use those
Live-Medium8357@reddit
some of my friends do. maybe you don't.
lfxlPassionz@reddit
Are they in the UP? We don't have it available where I live in West Michigan
Live-Medium8357@reddit
oh you know what. that's minnesota.. my bad.
cerealandcorgies@reddit
I love hearing begs. And fleg, like flying the fleg.
rexallia@reddit
This is all very close to the dialect in Wisconsin. My grandma was from the UP and moved to SE WI where I was born and raised. Visited family in the UP a lot too. That could have something to do w it, but I recognize all of this
Pittypatkittycat@reddit
I hear and say jjjyeet yet? Pretty common in Ohio. We had an adorable neighbor with a thick Appalachian accent. He was from West Virginia but his accent sounded more like Maine.
No-Conversation1940@reddit
The accent in the upper midwest states is getting thicker, I swear. In that case, it's potential migrants going "it's fucking freezing up there, I won't move there" more than geographic isolation unless you're on the eastern end of the UP or something.
lfxlPassionz@reddit
I have no idea how this becaume a reply to a comment 😔 reddit is so broken
Physical-Incident553@reddit
And don’t forget party stores!
danielcc07@reddit
Even in other parts of sc that are isolated unique accents formed.
awfulmcnofilter@reddit
Gullah is a language, not just a dialect of English.
danielcc07@reddit
Its a pidgin. I grew up close to there.
comrade_zerox@reddit
Sure, but its otherwise a great example of the type of thing OP asked for.
awfulmcnofilter@reddit
I guess. It just seems reductive to minimize it to an accent. Like speaking Creole comes with an accent with English, but Creole is a straight up language, not a subset of English.
cerealandcorgies@reddit
and the Sea Islands of Georgia
Ozone220@reddit
you've got Gullah in parts of the outer banks too I'm pretty sure
cerealandcorgies@reddit
https://gullahgeecheecorridor.org/interactive-map-of-gullah-geechee-cultural-and-historic-resources/
technically not quite to the OBX but including SE NC including the Wilmington area, yes
Ozone220@reddit
ah yeah you're right. Not outer banks but NC.
Outer banks a little further north, just to give another reply to OP though, does have Hoi Toider as an isolated accent that's crazy. That's on Ocracoke I know
DangerousHour2094@reddit
Came to the comments looking for exactly this
kentar62@reddit
Birth place of the greatest bass player!
Dragosal@reddit
Gullah Gullah island is real? And not just a kids show from the 90s?
thatsnotideal1@reddit
Based on St Helena Island, SC and the greater Gullah culture of the sea islands
arcticfunky9@reddit
Binya binya!
newimprovedmoo@reddit
New Mexico has a dialect of Spanish that has held onto features that died out even in Spain by the 18th century.
FindYourselfACity@reddit
The southie accent. There’s a Boston accent and then there’s the southie accent.
Delco. I have actually needed translations before.
SelectionFar8145@reddit
Tangier Island, Virginia.
gasolinedreaming@reddit
Smith Island MD and Tangier Island VA - similar to the Ocracoke / Hoi Toider accent
metrawhat@reddit
The claim is that they speak in an accent that's closer to what English people sounded like during the colonial days. Both US English and England have evolved, not so much the people on the islands of the Chesapeake.
WARitter@reddit
It’s very similar to wear country accents in England which have also changed less than other English accents.
DeekanKwaz@reddit
Both northern Minnesota and the UP of Michigan are quite distinct.
Massive_Dirt1577@reddit
You are looking at the dialect/accent issue backwards.
Almost everywhere in the United States used to have more varied and pronounced regional dialect. Strong Appalachia, southern Louisiana, UP Michigan and Minnesotan are just the remaining notables. They are thickets of remaining old growth forest where everything else was clear cut.
The regional accents were bulldozed by radio, television and movies. Even in my memory (50 yo) I have seen local accents disappear as the old folks die off.
CannaBeeKatie@reddit
Maine it is only connected to New Hampshire, but it has a unique accent, more than Boston. Ask for directions and the staple answer is "Ya can't get theya from heeya." I love maine. But it takes a few days to master the accent.
pyronius@reddit
"sometimes, dead is betta."
qoes@reddit
The first time I heard a true Downeast accent I was shocked at how distinct it was, and I lived within a days drive
battlecat136@reddit
Maine is like if you took the older, fancier Boston accent and stretched it out by slowing it. Like the southern version of a Brahmin. I love it so much.
Maine also has an area where they speak French, Arcadia I think.
libananahammock@reddit
Van Buren is part of Francophone North America; according to the most recent American Community Survey data, up to 44.7% of the population age 5 and older speak French at home. Links with Québec and New Brunswick are consequently strong.
CarmelaSopranoNo1fan@reddit
Maine and Philly are my two favorite american accents
vashtachordata@reddit
I’ve been watching Maine cabin masters as something to have on in the background and their accents are a trip. At first it was hard to watch because they were so grating but now it’s growing on me.
MortynMurphy@reddit
https://youtu.be/x7MvtQp2-UA?si=vc-MRYFwP50ptmoL
My grandfather was one of the last speakers of Ocracoke Brogue. I can understand it but not speak it.
DrywallAnchor@reddit
I know someone from East Lake who pronounced a few words with an Ocracoke Brogue. He's not sure where he got it from but he thinks it's from but he thinks it's from listening to the older men on Hatteras Island when he was growing up.
Many_Inevitable_6803@reddit
That’s pretty cool!
MortynMurphy@reddit
Thank you! He was a cool dude too haha. He dropped out of school to support his sibs, ran moonshine up and down the OBX to make extra money, rebuilt a Ford Model T for a collector, and was the rescue wrecker/mechanic for a small swamp community for over 50 years. All while being able to sing like a Southern Frank Sinatra. I take after my other side of the family in every other possible way, but I got Grandaddy's pipes and think of him every time I sing. ❤️
Many_Inevitable_6803@reddit
That’s awesome! They don’t make them like him anymore!
MortynMurphy@reddit
I thought for a minute on how to respond to this. I certainly appreciate the compliment to a man I loved, don't get me wrong. I thank you for that sentiment and I agree he was one in million.
But I would never have wished him to be "made" the way he was. I don't want men to be "made" like this, young boys deserve better. He should have gotten diagnosed with a learning disability, but instead he had to rely on his daughter and granddaughter to pay his taxes and bills since he could not read very well. It embarrassed him until he died. He should not have had to drop out of school to take care of his siblings, he only had to because his father ran off and his mother died. No sixth grader should have to go break their back in tobacco fields and on fishing boats and in garages. He was a religious man and hated breaking the law, but moonshine was his best chance at making sure his baby sister had good clothes to wear to school. He could have been a singer, a high level engineer, any number of things outside Duplin County had he ever been given even a lick of support, but instead he got the same raw deal as most impoverished people. My family just got lucky that unlike a lot of men in his generation, he didn't turn towards anger or the bottle like most men in his situation.
Many_Inevitable_6803@reddit
Fair. If I offended, I did not mean to and I apologize
MortynMurphy@reddit
Oh no, not offended at all! I just think that the reasons they don't make men like that anymore are good ones lol. More social support for societies might make for more boring grandpa lore, but I want children supported over anything else.
Many_Inevitable_6803@reddit
But based on your explanation, I still believe that your grandpa had an extremely strong sense of family, responsibility, and tenaciousness!
Various-Tomatillo407@reddit
Parts of Appalachia
HorseFeathersFur@reddit
Ayup
CemeteryDweller7719@reddit
I’m not sure if people even realize how thick that accent can get. My family is from a part of Appalachia that doesn’t really get visitors. There’s no motels around (closest is about an hour, maybe 1.5 hour drive), and there’s no little B&Bs. There’s nothing to draw tourists. There’s really nothing around there. (There’s a small little grocery store, almost like a convenience store about 30 mins away, but getting to Walmart is a lot longer drive!) There’s no hospital in the county. People don’t go there to visit, and if you do stumble into the county they recognize they don’t know you. (I mean, last I heard the county had about 3000 residents. They know!) That accent is THICK. Although not as thick as it was about 40 years ago. The old timers have died off.
sharpshooter999@reddit
Pfft, my county in Nebraska has 3k residents. We've got counties with 500 people too lol. That said, i listen to the Bear Grease Podcast. The host, Clay Newcomb, grew up in Merna, Arkansas. His dad has a thick (to me) accent, Clay has less of one, and his son could almost pass as Midwestern. They did an episode on linguistics (usually it's about anything hunting/fishing/historical) and how things change over time. Your family might be isolated physically, but do they have tv and internet?
devilbunny@reddit
Probably neither.
One big issue with Appalachia is that it’s mountainous, and while the mountains aren’t as tall as the Rockies, they are generally steeper. Signals don’t get down into the hollers well.
Ever wonder why the cable input on TV’s was labeled “CATV”? Because the first “cable TV” systems were “community antenna TV”, where a group of people in a valley (Pennsylvania was ground zero for this due to geography) collectively set up an antenna on a high ridge above town to receive signals and cabled the signal into their homes.
danielcc07@reddit
I attribute the rise of media to the watering down of accents. The town i grew up in only received two local channels, both over a hundred miles away from us. Forget about cable, and dish was super expensive then. The accents were so thick you could cut them with a knife. Now after youtube and internet they are well watered down.
chellebelle0234@reddit
Satellite. Near my parents house there's a little community that news featured a few years ago only having dial up. I am not sure if broadband has made it down in there yet. I know more than a few people back in the hollers around where I grew up that have used Hughes Net.
devilbunny@reddit
Ah, yeah, there is that, and Starlink, but you are wooded so that is very maybe (we have that problem too sometimes). Still, i live in Mississippi and thought I knew isolated people until I drove through WV. Even on the major roads, it’s empty.
Beautiful state and wonderful people, but you can’t make the mountains disappear.
otetrapodqueen@reddit
Yeah I'm from East Tennessee and there are accents I can barely understand, I was just trying to explain it to someone from Germany who was baffled hahaha
semisubterranean@reddit
Just tell them it's the English equivalent of Schweizerdeutsch.
chellebelle0234@reddit
I grew up in Cumberland Gap. My spouse grew up about 2 hours away in SWVA but with rather posh, very educated parents. She struggled at times to understand my father and his beloved hillbilly accent. We've been together 15 years and I still used idioms and slang and my accent that she just can't decipher.
jessipowers@reddit
This is exactly how my grandpa grew up except they did have a tiny store/lunch counter/post office that the holler was named after. I love his accent.
MuchDrawing2320@reddit
A lot of Appalachian English is way more choppy than other southern dialects and that’s a big factor in making it more difficult. Words spill out fast together.
bigbyandsnow@reddit
That is spot on. I could never place my finger on it but, the cadence is very different than the greater regional southern dialect.
cerealandcorgies@reddit
in my head I hear "closis wawmarts bout an arr, arr and a hafe"
Live-Medium8357@reddit
I know the isolation is the key, but I had to laugh since I have lived in areas where the county had like 1500 people so 3000 sounded really big for a moment.
sv36@reddit
Yeah as someone from the west side of Tennessee, you’d be surprised that most people you meet at the store or social places are going to have less of an accent than say going to someone’s family reunion and everyone being local to a place you’ve lived your whole life and not being able to understand half the people because they don’t get out and loose their accent over time, they just stay in their rural areas their whole lives and come the hour drive into the city and sound like someone from another country with a different accent/language. Like get into the sayings and phrases people use and you’ll start seeing the differences really hard.
I grew up my entire life in the same hour of where I was born but my parents were not originally from the area, there are still random phrases that I don’t know, or that my parents don’t know even after being there for nearly thirty years.
BUBBAH-BAYUTH@reddit
I remember watching a doc on MTV back in the 90s (maybe a True Life?) that features two twin brothers. I started watching sort of in the middle.
Whatever accent they had was so strong I genuinely couldn’t tell if they were extremely southern (US) or extremely Liverpudlian. I still think about that occasionally lol
DrywallAnchor@reddit
Hatteras and Ocracoke
Cactuswater906@reddit
Maryland's Smith Island accent. It has a lot of the speech patterns that the original English settlers had.
HandsomePotRoast@reddit
Queens, NY
Wide_Breadfruit_2217@reddit
Northern Maine fits.
Nice-Drawing2519@reddit
The gulf coast. All these big cities dotted everywhere, most of them in big chunks, and then there's the Gulf Coast. Mobile, New Orleans, Biloxi, Gulfport, Pensacola, etc. are the bigger cities of the gulf coast, and only 2 cities named have over 100k (New Orleans has ~350k i think, Mobile has just over 200k)
Our accent is pretty different from a standard southern accent. Same with culture! We have a deep Cajun culture that is mostly derived from French colonization in the United States.
Maleficent-Hawk-318@reddit
New Mexico has a unique regional dialect of Spanish due to its isolation; it sounds super archaic to other modern Spanish speakers.
It also has a couple of really distinct accents. I've recognized people from NM on the East Coast, and my sister once directly identified someone as being from NM while she was in Italy, just based on hearing them speak.
nottatroll@reddit
Northern New Mexico in particular.
GSilky@reddit
The San Luis Valley of Colorado was isolated that after the Mexican shepherds got into it in the early 1800s, they were able to maintain their speaking style and in the 1950s and 60s the valley was inundated with linguists fascinated by the archaic nature. Super formal and old fashioned Castilian, the kind you learn in Spanish class. Thees and thous level of fancy. There are still a few old-timers that speak that way, it's a trip.
OPsDearOldMother@reddit
The San Luis Valley is culturally an extension of New Mexico, where the dialect you're talking about comes from. The San Luis Valley was first settled by families from Taos, New Mexico who had by that point been established in New Mexico for hundreds of years already.
throw_every_away@reddit
Colorado trying to come in and take credit for our stuff yet again
Aggressive-Emu5358@reddit
C’mon now.
Southern-Usual4211@reddit
Its the Colorado way
Publicfalsher@reddit
a lot of those qualities are also present in old timers in mexico
bigbyandsnow@reddit
This s why I love Reddit. I have not heard of this this before! Thank you for my new rabbit hole this morning.
johnnybluejeans@reddit
Long Island, New York
udderlymoovelous@reddit
I grew up on LI and I don’t know anyone under 35 with that accent
johnnybluejeans@reddit
It’s funny I wrote a whole caveat about that when originally commented but then deleted it. It’s way less common with the under 40 crowd, but I still hear it plenty in young people. I did not grow up here so maybe my ear is more sensitive to it. I also hear it far less on the north shore compared to middle island and south shore.
CannaBeeKatie@reddit
Lon Guyland
cerealandcorgies@reddit
lawn guy land
PacSan300@reddit
You mean the Fran Drescher accent? /s
Chicago_Avocado@reddit
UP Michigan has a fun accent. I’m trying to remember a weird movie about deer hunting…
LetterheadClassic306@reddit
what helped me before is to compare local speech patterns by what people hear in media and then checking a local context from lived details. i’ve found this thing always gets more confusing after one podcast clip and assuming a whole area thinks the same. There are strong examples in the Appalachian regions around eastern Kentucky and western North Carolina, the Deep South accents in parts of Alabama and Georgia, and in parts of the Midwest where older influences still linger. You also see clear regional flavors in the Great Plains, especially in older communities, and in New England pockets where long history shapes vowel patterns. The best route is to start with historical migration maps and then watch local interviews because people carry way more than maps suggest.
SenorNickPapagiorgio@reddit
Wasn’t a version of this just asked yesterday?
ElijahNSRose@reddit
There use to be a ton of examples.
Now there are none.
Dear-Ad1618@reddit
The Gullah Geechee of the Carolina and Georgia Barrier Islands is a prime example of this. Their ancestors who still spoke African languages were able to escape slavery and establish their own communities. The language and culture they developed in their fiercely held isolation lives on to this day.
Starfoxmarioidiot@reddit
I don’t know if there’s a name for this as a dialect, but I can pick out someone who was homeschooled in a western state for religious reasons. They over annunciate, they don’t use contractions or conventional swears. There are a lot of people with two first names.
“By the prophet Allan Ray! Mother told you that you cannot set your reader on the ground! I will not tell tales on you, but father will see the dust and he will have you gather a switch with the firewood. May Lord Jesus forgive me when I take my measure of delight at your thrashing.”
That’s North Utah Mormonese for “Mom and Dad are gonna kill you when we get home!”
jessipowers@reddit
I follow Christian fundamentalists and Mormons are sort of a related interest. And you’re not kidding. There is a very specific way people raised this way speak. All of their word choices sound exactly like people whose main exposure to the English language is scripture and blustering sweaty preachers.
Starfoxmarioidiot@reddit
It really is a thing. I’ve had the pleasure of corrupting a few sheltered fundies with their first ever birthday parties. They always say something adorable like “Whatever do I do? Am I really supposed to tear the paper? It seems that would make the table untidy.”
Prize_Consequence568@reddit
All of them.
Now onward to the next post.
normiepitbullmom@reddit
There’s some islands in the Chesapeake Bay that still speak like they’re in Elizabethan England. Look up Tangier Island in Virginia and Smith Island in Maryland.
The population of these islands drop every year due to rising sea levels and economics, but they have distinct accents and dialects there.
loverurallife@reddit
The Cajun spoken in Louisiana.
SillyWillyC@reddit
It is actually interesting, here in the South there is a very distinct accent as I'm sure you are aware. However, as a born and raised Georgian who grew up in Atlanta, I don't have the accent (I have a neutral American accent) because Atlanta is like one of the only cities in the state that doesn't have it. You drive an hour or so (maybe a bit more) and people start having the accent. There are a few words I pronounce like a Southerner of course due to me being around people with the accent.
4Q69freak@reddit
The UP of MI. Because it has the second largest population of Fins in the world behind only Finland, Yoopers have a very thick, distinctive accent. Yous know whata mean der, eh? Watch the movie Escanaba In Da Moonlight, for reference.
Healthy_Blueberry_59@reddit
Ocacroke. But geographic isolation can happen anywhere. Geographic isolation happens everywhere. There is a particular variant of AAVE in my city that I can't understand at all, due to economic and social isolation of the people who speak it. Many people hardly leave their neighborhood.
Accomplished_Mix7827@reddit
Appalachia, definitely. One of the most unique subcultures in the country.
The Cajuns, too
bigbyandsnow@reddit
With the advent of radio, television, and the internet America’s regional accents have muddled into more “general” accents. The older Appalachian accent is unique. It has hard consonants. This lady sounds just like my Nana did.
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTBLv6J3B/
jessipowers@reddit
Thank you so much for sharing this. My grandpa and his sister are almost exactly the same age as the woman in the video. They were raised deep in a holler in southeastern Kentucky. I love hearing them talk, the sounds of their voices, the words and phrases they choose, the stories they have to tell.
bigbyandsnow@reddit
Check out Appalachian Funeral singing. There is one video of a lady under an umbrella that gets me every time. I can close my eyes and be transported back to my Nana’s house.
sweettea75@reddit
She sounds like Dolly Parton. It's amazing that Dolly has kept her accent her whole life.
bigbyandsnow@reddit
Nah Dolly accent has rounded out. It is softer than it used to be if you watch her old clips from the 50’s. It’s still there but less sharp.
GloomyEgg5689@reddit
Boonville CA. Boontling
unknowingbiped@reddit
The upper peninsula of Michigan. The worlds largest people of finnish heritage outside if finland.
Sisu
Which_Initiative_882@reddit
Ok, heres one for you. The Kern County accent. Back in the dust bowl a bunch of families moved from Oklahoma to Kern County CA. The accent is similar to the Okies, but with an odd twist to it. Its a drawl but with some local changes. It really throws off newcomers to the area and they think we are just faking a southrrn accent to sound country. What they dont realize is that even 15 years ago most people here were either farmers, ranchers, or oil field workers and not much inbetween. The accent still exists, myself being one, but its sadly disappearing as the area gets saturated by transplants from the LA area.
kritter4life@reddit
The whole thing being so large creates geographic isolation.
comingtoamiddle@reddit
Cajun from the Louisiana bayous.
Reasonable-Company71@reddit
Hawaii-Hawaiian Pidgin
Hoopajoops@reddit
Parts of Wyoming. Meet someone with a thick Cowboy accent and it's very difficult to understand them
frickenfantastic@reddit
Cajun
Small-Tax-2829@reddit
The Cajun bayou accent is impossible for city cajuns to understand. Source: I am a city Cajun
frickenfantastic@reddit
I get out into the middle of Louisiana and I start doubting we’re speaking the same language
BankManager69420@reddit
It’s less common than it used to be, but rural Oregonians often have a distinct twang accent. You could call it a “cowboy accent.” Sam Elliott the actor, for example, is from Oregon
MissouriOzarker@reddit
The Ozarks used to be this way, but nowadays it’s only the case for old timers in the most remote areas.
No-Conversation1940@reddit
It's interesting how outsiders view the Ozarks. I made a post on the Missouri positivity thread about growing up there and someone responded saying it made them pine for the old south or something.
No one I know from back there considers ourselves southern.
MissouriOzarker@reddit
I probably shouldn’t let this bother me as much as it does, but it’s just incredibly frustrating.
I grew up here. I live here. The only people around here who consider this to be the South are outsiders who relocated here laboring under that misconception.
anotherdamnscorpio@reddit
Yeah the Ozarks are their own thing.
Eogh21@reddit
Appalachia here, East Central Kentucky. We had ruffs over out heads, drank rut beer, swam in the crick. When you got a flat tire, you changed it with a tar arn (said quickly so it sounded like tarn), ate Arsh (Irish, russet) potatoes and my Granny loved bald (boiled)shrimp. If you needed someone to take you to town, you'd ask if they could carry you to town. If we were explaining how something happened "hit were like this or hit weren't like that."
I suppose because of our Scottish ancestry, we had things like "yetts" instead of gates and learned to pronounce "0" in books like boots and say aboot instead of about.
And we used a lot of old time phrases like our parents "wouldn't countenance" us misbehaving. If you really didn't like someone and wanted nothing to do with them, you "had no truck with them" and if you were in someone's way, they'd tell you to "get out of their road".
My husband is from West Texas and I had to translate for him because he didn't understand the words or the accent.
sorryimgay@reddit
Following the coastline of Louisiana alone, you can find countless various strong accents. Bayous and marshes can do a lot to isolate you from others
Adventurous-Ask2111@reddit
More rural parts of the country often have their own accents because they are so isolated from the rest. Ex. Appalachia, which is very mountainous. This acts as a natural barrier that separates a population and allows an accent to naturally form.
This also happens when the group of people choose to isolate themselves. You can usually hear an Amish person compared to a non-Amish person from Pennsylvania. The Amish are fine being their own group and dont like to be apart of the modern world if they dont have to.
In older generations, New York and New England have their own accents. Because of the higher immigrant population an accent naturally mixed over time. Or the immigrants adopted the accents in the area they now live in as a way to better assimilate.
Bawlmerese from Baltimore Maryland is a unique dialect. Idk much about how it started but its pretty distinct IMO
semisubterranean@reddit
I can't find the reference right now, but I remember reading a journal article many years ago that suggested the opposite. In much of the country, accents differences have lessened over the last century thanks largely to radio and TV (for example, most Southerners are now rhotic). However, the researchers found areas with large numbers of tourists and vacation homes had more exaggerated accents than more isolated places in the region. The accent serves as an in-group identifier (or shibboleth), which is only useful when an out-group population exists. Another study found store clerks with more exaggerated regional accents sold more souvenirs, providing additional incentive for exaggerated regional accents.
marvsup@reddit
Tangier Island in VA is a famous one that is arguably is due to geographic isolation: https://youtu.be/AIZgw09CG9E?si=-QmbErVkjz136-I0
Although, I would think it's not absolute isolation as I'm sure they had consistent contact with nearby mainlanders.
LilacOn_Green57934@reddit
Smith Island, MD in the Chesapeake Bay is also distinct.
WhiskyStandard@reddit
They also make a distinctive cake.
JThereseD@reddit
I went there several years ago, and I would be surprised to learn that they had much contact with people on the mainland based on their behavior. They tried to avoid us and didn’t even want to look at us. It’s pretty crazy that they didn’t even have motorized vehicles.
Maurice_Foot@reddit
Um, all of it?
SabresBills69@reddit
in Chesapeake bay there are a few boat access only islands of tangier VA and smith island MD that lived off fishing. Thry speak with an old English accent
Ok-Astronaut2976@reddit
When I was in the army there was this one kid from Mississippi. I pretty much never understood what he was saying. It was like talking to Boomhauer.
JThereseD@reddit
Tangier Island
thornyrosary@reddit
The Cajuns of south Louisiana developed both a distinct dialect/patois and a very, very strong accent.
The Cajuns arrived in Louisiana penniless, and most were not given a hefty land grant. They arrived with literally nothing but their lives. Upon arrival, most of them found that the only help they could get was from those considered at the lowest of the social hierarchy: First Nations, free people of color, etc. These kind people showed the Cajuns how to survive in the hot, humid climate, and how to utilize food sources that weren't imported from Europe. Some of our traditions and 'unique' foodstuffs used even today directly stem from those early interactions. (Okra and file', I'm looking at you.)
Poverty and social spurning forced the Cajuns to go further into the unsettled regions of the Louisiana territory, although they tended to stay close to the waterways and shores which they knew in their native Arcadia. They tended to settle in specific areas, places where the land was considered inferior, worthless, not immediately accessible to trade/commerce, etc.: the swamps, the south Louisiana prairies, scrubland, shallow coastal islands, etc.
These settlements were self-supporting, and thrived into prosperity, all in a place where "normal" habitations of the time would have failed. Birth, adulthood, marriage, children, and death all occurred within the settlement. The Cajuns had their own churches, stores, markets, etc. The old Acadian traditions, recipes, and language survived, but of course they evolved over time. Due to a continued social stigma that saw Cajuns as backwoods and inbred, the settlements were maintained over several centuries. It was "safe", and even used as a haven by escaped slaves and Native Americans on the run.
The "breaking up" of these settlements occurred after WW I under the governorship of Huey P. Long, when it became mandatory for all children, including Acadian children, to attend school, which were mandatory English-speaking. Most of these kids spoke zero English, so they were both exposed to the blatant prejudices of "Anglo" children, and physically disciplined for speaking French at school. During WW II, many Cajuns either left the settlements to work in wartime efforts such as shipyards due to the very high pay, or they went into the Armed Forces, where they were used extensively as French translators. The old settlements became 'diluted' with those of Anglo, Irish, and other ethnic origins.
By that time, our French had evolved into a distinct patois, a mix of French, Native American, and English words. Today, most of us are bilingual, but our native language is still spoken by many, and if you hear the English, you'll wonder if you're really hearing English at all due to the thick accent. The French? I've heard a speaker of Parisian French once describe it as a fascinating delving into 18th century French. Our language, and our entire culture, is unique because of the prejudices of the past. What was once a shameful thing has become an ethnicity in which the state takes pride. Go figure, comme sa?
Source: Je suisse Acadienne. I'm a Cajun.
Mr_Boneman@reddit
Tangier Island Virginia.
msabeln@reddit
Thick accents? You just have to go to New York City and Long Island, which are hardly isolated places. I’ve heard it said that accents can change if you go just a few blocks. This is less pronounced these days due to gentrification.
I knew a girl from school who was teased for her Brooklyn accent, and she responded that she had a Lonk Guyland accent.
NativePA@reddit
PA dutch and Amish through social isolation have a messed up accent. Likely true of other Amish and mennonites around the country.
PNKAlumna@reddit
Anyone else who grew up in the PA Coal Region? ☺️
metrawhat@reddit
Pittsburghese
PNKAlumna@reddit
I was talking about the NEPA region’s version, but yeah, that would be another version.
ominouslyspecific@reddit
What about Martha's Vinyard Sign Language? There used to be a large population of deaf people on the island and the region had their own sign language that was different from ASL.
GSilky@reddit
Sign language is a fascinating study. Apparently there can be different "dialects" simply based on what school you learned it at, if the same instructors are there long enough. The various flows and gestures learned tend to be plastic, and if you learned an expression with a certain "cadence" of movements, it's difficult to change.
ShinyAppleScoop@reddit
And accents change with age or injury!
Loud_Inspector_9782@reddit
South Louisiana.
JimBones31@reddit
Tangier Island
Yeegis@reddit
There’s some parts of the South that developed rhotic accents that sound vaguely like a Northern English accent
Cerebral-Knievel-1@reddit
Tangier island in the Chesapeake bay
JenniferJuniper6@reddit
Staten Island, NYC.
ZombiePrepper408@reddit
Bill Burr the comedian has a hypothesis;
The worse the weather is, the thicker the accent.
battlecat136@reddit
Considering I'm from the same place as Bill, I'm gonna agree with that. In the last three days our weather went from 92 and sunny, to 95 and humid, to 58 and windy. No wonder we have attitude problems, we're tempered in chaos.
CandidateHefty329@reddit
Gullah in South Carolina
kentar62@reddit
Balmore, hon
Sea_Macaron_7962@reddit
People in Louisiana that live over the swamps.
MemoryMaker_1660@reddit
I moved to Kansas City from Chicago and people asked where my accent was from. I never thought Chicago had an accent until I watched the Blues Brothers.
stayweird3000@reddit
The Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Say ya to da UP, eh?
hungaryboii@reddit
Pittsburgh has yinz and Philly has jawnt
Vachic09@reddit
Ocracoke
HoyAIAG@reddit
Hawaii
Embarrassed-Cause250@reddit
Rural Alaska.
AwesomeOrca@reddit
Not sure this is exactly what you're looking for, but the German Triangle in Texas (area between New Braunfels, Fredericksburg, and Schulenburg) has a large population descended from German immigrants who came in the 1800s and who speak German with a thick Texas drawl, which is wild to me. The dialect is dying out, but there are a lot of recordings of it on YouTube.
BUBBAH-BAYUTH@reddit
NC’s Hoi Toider accent (Ocracoke Brogue)
MortynMurphy@reddit
I said the same thing! My grandfather spoke Ocracoke Brogue. I can understand it but not speak it.
ShadowOfTheBean@reddit
NC State (?) did a documentary about the Brogue in the 80s. It's sad because they knew the accent was dying but it's nice to hear it.
Takes me back to my childhood, having McDonalds breakfast with the old salts in the smoking section talking about guys named Chimney and Toad getting a DUI driving over the bridge, one on a riding mower the other in the wagon being towed behind.
If ya ever need a hit of nostalgia, check it out.
MortynMurphy@reddit
Yeah that one is the doc I always recommend to people if they ask for more info about it!
ShadowOfTheBean@reddit
I hate that all the dingbatters moved in and mommucked it up.
(Both dingbatter and mommuck are Ocracoke Brogue for the uninitiated)
I grew up hearing the old timers talking with it and it's sad it's dead now.
auntmarybbt@reddit
Southeastern Oklahoma
ActuaLogic@reddit
Here are a couple of YouTube videos:
https://youtu.be/AR8a-SG6l0k?si=fqjcpPoziaP8JEuu
https://youtu.be/go6qDjwO69M?si=xgRdJP1i5eGrG9D6
HeyAQ@reddit
Pittsburgh, which differs from other parts of western Pennsylvania and from the Ohio and WV counties that surround it.
NateInEC@reddit
Geographic isolation in America? Definitely a variety of accents, but I don't think they are the result of isolation.
ShadowOfTheBean@reddit
The OBX was isolated both geographicly and socially (they were abolitionist with free black families living along them) so the Ocracoke Brogue came about.
Appalachia, on the west side of the state was much the same (one steep road that required specialized carts to move west from Old Fort that was tolled). I can't make a claim to knowledge that there were free black families in that area though.
Side note: the descendants of one of the free black families still lives there today. If you stop at the rest area in Manteo, there's a small graveyard that has the families ancestors there. The state imminent domained the spot from the Collins Tract, named after the Collins family. I lived close to and went to school with one of the Collins girls.
RIP Adora
marvsup@reddit
Tangier Island, VA? https://youtu.be/AIZgw09CG9E?si=-QmbErVkjz136-I0
NateInEC@reddit
Still isolated 😂.
pikkdogs@reddit
Welcome to the UP of Michigan Eh?
DabbledInPacificm@reddit
Colombia - for many reasons including geography, economics, immigration, and civil conflict. Every major city - even those just a few hours apart - has different dialects and culture.
Optimal_Shirt6637@reddit
Appalachia
tbnbrks@reddit
Does Staten Island count?
steely_92@reddit
The Amish people that live in the same area as my parents still speak Pennsylvania German and have a strong accent.
Wodan11@reddit
Not really a thing except as very few exceptions. Accents in the States are much more heavily influenced by intermingling of different settlers and origin nations/languages.
GarciaWolf@reddit
Philly accent is one of the most studied accents in the world..
Seamus_MacDuff@reddit
North Dakota