Phoronix just posted a pic with Jensen Huang teasing “exciting things happening on Linux” — what are we expecting?
Posted by lajka30@reddit | linux | View on Reddit | 102 comments
LumpyFlint@reddit
When did the comments in /r/linux go this room temperature, I expected some interesting takes and it's like /r/technology in here
BinkReddit@reddit
How about I don't care? They haven't been good stewards of their Linux drivers for an exceptionally long time. They have plenty of money, so I'm happy to give my money to the companies that do a better job supporting my favorite operating system.
SupplePigeon@reddit
We want Linux to continue to flourish and grow. We can’t forever hold a grudge, progress be damned. If Nvidia wants to make their contributions to Linux better, why be petty about it?
acostoss@reddit
It's less about a grudge, and more about being burnt multiple times already and thus no longer willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
I'll believe it when I see it, but until then, it's more hot air.
boukensha15@reddit
Hmm..
May be I am crazy but I agreed both with this comment and the one it is a reply to. And upvoted them both. :)
Literallyapig@reddit
as a nvidia user (turing gpu), i've been using linux with it for years and never had many problems. with wayland specifically, i think nvidia actually started to care from the 555 drivers onwards, nowadays ive had no issues with them. the only thing thats sucks is the drivers being proprietary.
Floppie7th@reddit
Have they ever?
unixmachine@reddit
I followed the trend on Reddit and bought an AMD GPU to use on Linux. I've only had problems, and they were annoying problems like random system freezes. It's a bug that's been known for at least 5 years.
I've never had problems with Nvidia GPUs, they've always been solid. I'm using one now instead of a AMD GPU. People say there's a performance drop in DX12, but I haven't noticed it much, I don't usually play such new games.
BinkReddit@reddit
I have an AMD GPU in my production workstation and it Just Works. I also frequently try the mainline Linux kernel and I never have to worry if there's going to be issues with my graphics driver talking to the latest kernel.
unixmachine@reddit
I don't doubt it, it's a matter of personal experience. Computer hardware with diverse configurations is quite unpredictable.
That's why I'm no longer going to engage with narratives like "Nvidia is bad, AMD is good." I'll just share my experience. In my case, with two GPUs, a 6600XT and a 7600, I had many problems with both. At the same time, with a 1660 Ti, 3060 Ti, and 5070 Ti, I had no problems. Laptops with Intel graphics: the best experience of all of them. Laptops with AMD APUs: overheating (it was in 2011, AMD was very bad on Linux).
mrlinkwii@reddit
technically yes in the early 2000s , their was a point were nvidia drivers were miles better than amds
Floppie7th@reddit
Yeah, I used an Nvidia card back then for that reason - but they were never good. They were no better than they are today - proprietary blobs that mostly work for most setups.
ProFeces@reddit
You just described device drivers as a whole, especially in that time period. I've exclusively used Linux since the late 90's for my main PC, and there was almost no device from back then that didn't have significant driver issues unless the community, or you yourself, made drovers for them.
I'd argue that in that period of time, they were probably the best at supporting their hardware. Especially around 2003/4 when everyone started shifting to 64 bit OS'. Oh man what a nightmarish time for compatibility and support that was. Literally, the one piece of hardware I didn't have issues with was my GPU.
Floppie7th@reddit
And yet, now we have AMD providing a first-party open-source driver.
linuxwes@reddit
Nvidia used to be what the community recommended for Linux gaming because the drivers were significantly better than AMD.
spikederailed@reddit
Even on the windows side their drivers have not been great as of recently. Even if it was not for the 12v2x6 I would have purchased AMD for OpenSource drivers alone.
nicman24@reddit
Not really the case since the ai boom
kigurai@reddit
Nvidia drivers and cuda are literally my only recurring OS problems. It's certainly better than a few years ago, but it's still a pain at times.
nicman24@reddit
Rolling distro?
kigurai@reddit
No.
nicman24@reddit
shit distro then. sorry but if cachy can manage it, your distro needs to be better
FellTheCommonTroll@reddit
I'm on cachy, also been my experience that nvidia drivers have been the only consistent issue I've faced
nicman24@reddit
weird. cachy was so consistent i build a swarm of 150+ spot vms in gcloud - uni / gov staff
FellTheCommonTroll@reddit
It's mostly pretty good but the only issues I've had have been nvidia issues
nicman24@reddit
ah i wasn't clear. no i did that because of how good it was with nvidia and cuda
bloodguard@reddit
I'm guessing more of the same. They'll crow about their allegedly open source driver that just so happens to need all manner of mysterious closed source binary blobs to almost (but not quite) work.
Derdachss@reddit
Am I the only one thinking about something related to the upcoming N1/N1x cpus? Linux support from day one, maybe?
Dark_Fox_666@reddit
hahhhha bro Michael looks stoned AF!
Mgladiethor@reddit
F nvidia f apple
sequential_doom@reddit
Some AI garbage probably.
Spunkie@reddit
I'm guessing just free AI credits or something of the like 🤔
MonkAndCanatella@reddit
it'll be an ai flavored distro nothing more
Kazko25@reddit
Yep. That’s all NVDA does anymore.
rafuru@reddit
AI bullshit. Jensen is a fckn scammer that will convince everyone that they need AI somehow.
We really need an actual chip competitor to burst Nvidia's bubble.
jason-reddit-public@reddit
Kind of like custom asics started to be used for crypto mining, Google and other companies AI chips are chipping away at NVidia's dominance (in the DC). A couple more years and folks might be able to afford gaming GPUs again (though HBM and other fab capacity still might prevent this).
BinkReddit@reddit
I'm waiting for the price of RAM to be reasonable again. 😞
jason-reddit-public@reddit
That's going to take longer. Same with flash.
DDOSBreakfast@reddit
They can't keep spending money at this rate for a long time. Their revenues let alone profits from AI have been fairly minimal.
jason-reddit-public@reddit
I agree we are in a bubble but the frontier players with deep pockets are all in. (The smartest players are selling the shovels.)
mrlinkwii@reddit
how are they a scammer , curious
DerekB52@reddit
Because AI is a scam. It can maybe do 10% of what people are promising(i'm probably being too generous)
directheated@reddit
Scammer that has returned more to shareholders than any other mega cap company ever
feivel123@reddit
ye but right now hes trying his hardest to keep the buibble alive
directheated@reddit
It’s only a bubble if you’re viewing AI for its most rudimentary use. For CS and medicine it’s as big a game changer as the invention of the computer.
feivel123@reddit
I think bezos said it in a good way: its a bubble that will eventuality burst but we will keep many good features.
directheated@reddit
Sure I can accept that, the data center spending doesn’t make sense to me but what do I know
techma2019@reddit
Found the guy profiting from all the despair Nvidia is pushing the economy into.
directheated@reddit
Yes I am the only one that has an S&P500 or Us total stock market index fund where NVDA is 15 to 20% of its holdings. You nailed it!
techma2019@reddit
Top 10% of Americans own roughly 87%–90% of U.S. stocks.
https://www.fool.com/research/how-many-americans-own-stock/
You aren't the "only one", but you're definitely in the major minority.
Enjoy the privilege.
directheated@reddit
And what do you suppose pension funds are held as? And are you just discarding the the other 90% of Americans just because they don’t hold the same percentage?
techma2019@reddit
Individuals with pension funds don't get a say when they get taken off a cliff by your Great Leather Jacket. He's literally trying to ensnare all capital to socialize the losses when the music stops.
directheated@reddit
My entire point which you fail to grasp is that a market crash would have no effect on the wealthy, it would be an inconvenience, it would have a drastic effect on the economy and hence that other 90% (which I’m taking your word on as I’m not reading a Motley Fool article). So by you (or that other chap) saying I was the only one profiting of this would be dead wrong, by your own circular logic me holding a significant amount either via stock, index funds or LEAPS would mean that a market crash would have the least effect on me. Assuming
Infinity-of-Thoughts@reddit
Imagine being a Linux sub, talking about "returning to investors".
Tyg13@reddit
Sure, we ruined the economy by creating a massively overinflated bubble by shoving incredibly expensive AI technology into everybody's faces...
But for a brief moment, we created quite a lot of value for shareholders!
Infinity-of-Thoughts@reddit
There are competitors.
What you need is people buying them, and thus investing in them.
unixmachine@reddit
Perhaps some kind of Steam Machine. Last year Nvidia was looking for engineers with experience in Proton and FEX-Emu.
bubblegumpuma@reddit
That sounds most like they're cooking something Tegra related, if they're looking at poking into FEX. Nvidia Shield 2, Linux edition? Not-a-Nintendo-Switch? IDK, this is all very, "...okay? Details, anyone?"
GameKing505@reddit
This would be super cool but I doubt it
Narishma@reddit
A Linux-powered leather jacket.
secret019960609@reddit
their faces are so interesting
shroddy@reddit
What I hope: Something VM related to make it easier to use the Gpu in a VM, maybe even sharing it between host and vm.
What I expect: Some kind of "low ai rate" Gpus where your local LLM or image generation runs at half the speed or not at all.
Cesar_PT@reddit
Bro looks like he's being held hostage by Larabel
HovercraftStock4986@reddit
if it involves jensen huang it will be bad for the average user
Conscious_Battle_363@reddit
instant reminds me of linus flipping nvid bros off
Cylian91460@reddit
Probably nothing
isabellium@reddit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfDvXo6Y6sk
2rad0@reddit
Since nobody knows or cares, I'll go out on a limb and say maybe they will revive 3dfx for computer graphics cards, and lead nvidia to slaughter in the autocomplete slop farms which by the way are looking more like military targets these days than civilian infrastructure.
Megame50@reddit
If Nvidia were to open source a mesa driver I'd eat my hat. And my shoes.
ZunoJ@reddit
Enshittification is what I expect
wildcarde815@reddit
real support for arm + efi so that we can actually install a modern os on nvidia arm chips?
BawdyMonkey@reddit
Marketing.
helgur@reddit
Hot air and/or bullshit. I have no expectations whatsoever from these people.
kornerz@reddit
glas_haus1111@reddit
my money is on some ai datacenter garbage
icantgetnosatisfacti@reddit
Price increase?
Cytomax@reddit
the only exciting thing would be jensen huang leaving
skyrider1213@reddit
Honestly, I just want Steam Big Picture mode to work without performance issues on linux - I have an old Nvidia Gpu sitting around that I'd love to put into a living room PC, but big picture is too unstable to work with it.
yyg-linux@reddit
they're going to make nvidia drivers even more proprietary and difficult to install.
DoubleOwl7777@reddit
i dont know but fuck nvidia either way.
lwbrtnss@reddit
/sys/ai/cluade/tokens
ironhaven@reddit
Thisarticle is about how Greg Heartman used a framework desktop to run a llm vulnerability scanner.
Jensen is very mad that it was not NVIDIA so he is probably setting up some hardware for a new headline
mooky1977@reddit
AI data center bullshit?
DadoumCrafter@reddit
Their CPU? That would be the best thing that I could actually see happen.
typhon88@reddit
It’s being bought by nvidia and becoming closed source
MarkSuckerZerg@reddit
Linux 2: rewritten into rust. GCC replaced with Claude
Crazyachmed@reddit
You just hurt me 😥
UpAndAdam7414@reddit
Huang is even starting to look like he’s AI generated.
SystemAxis@reddit
My guess is better Wayland/Vulkan support and general Linux driver improvements. NVIDIA has clearly been investing more into Linux recently. Could also be some AI and compute announcements mixed in, since a lot of NVIDIA’s Linux focus is in that space too.
luckynar@reddit
Acording to the track record, high speculative prices for hardware. And maybe... some ads if you use Nvidia drivers.
Ghjjfslayer@reddit
This is what advanced Linux users really look like on a good day
Key_Pace_2496@reddit
Probably some bullshit.
Capable_Music7299@reddit
I'm so glad this sub hates nvidia
Userwerd@reddit
Going to opensource all deprecated drivers /S
Expensive_Finger_973@reddit
AI in their proprietary Linux drivers.
No_Bid_8043@reddit
AI generated articles on Phoronix
CheesecakePerfect156@reddit
Nvidia fuck you
keremimo@reddit
100% AI bullshit.
If you believe they will announce “We fixed Nvidia drivers once and for all, even for hybrid laptops” or something else that people actually desire, you will be very disappointed.
It is AI. It is always AI.
Sixguns1977@reddit
Nothing good.
esmifra@reddit
That they are going to exploit Linux ecosystem to make more money for Nvidia AI products.
If the pc GPU market is no longer interesting enough for Nvidia do care much about it, why would Linux market would even begin to get their interest?
Bearyalis@reddit
Just another pump and dump from NVIDIA, something like they will sell them GPU's but lease the capacity back or some "circular" financing bs. It will be nothing that will actually make peoples life's better.
L3R4F@reddit
Standalone VERA cpu?
Zebra4776@reddit
Idk. Nvidia has always just worked for me on Linux since the 10 series or so. But if they can improve on that even more then great I guess.