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I Love EVs, But Kia and Hyundai Are Making That Harder

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Shitboxfan69@reddit

Finally, EVs have come far enough that people criticize an electric Kia for being a Kia than being electric. Gentlemen, we have witnessed the turning of a page.
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right-from-the-start@reddit

My old dealership had franchises with Toyota/Honda/Nissan/Hyundai/Kia. When u came in for service, they offered free shuttles to wherever you wanted to go (Mall, IKEA, etc.). Drivers were retired salesmen from these dealerships. Old timers. And I would talk to them about the different brands. Here’s what one guy said (and I think he nailed it): Toyota & Honda are customer oriented. Yes, they want to make the sale and the profit. But they are focused on continuously tweaking their engines/transmissions/platforms for reliability. And when something goes wrong, in many cases they have already issued a technical bulletin/recall which covers the repair. Hyundai/Kia: focused on bringing next level luxury/tech/styling to market first. But if you’re out of warranty, you are on your own. I forgot what he said about Nissan.
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Nefilim314@reddit

“Nissans are shit” prob. 
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countryboy4x4ing@reddit

This is totally unrelatable but what does it take to be able to post a question in this car's forum. Reddit messages back and says I don't have enough interaction so every time someone posts something in this car for them I reply to try to get involved and I go back repost my question and it still said that I do not have enough interaction and I a risk of spam
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HawtGarbage918@reddit (OP)

I'd say start with upvoting a lot for a couple weeks, then start responding to posts for another couple. It's a pretty restrictive sub but I think the mods just want to make sure you're real and not just spamming.
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countryboy4x4ing@reddit

What do you mean by upvoting?
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iatekane@reddit

It’s a Reddit thing
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countryboy4x4ing@reddit

I don't prefer electric vehicles myself, I'm more of a on hand physical mechanical person and also you got to know how to work on electricity do you ever want to be able to do any type of work on an electric vehicle so they just don't come in hand besides maybe saving money on electricity versus gasoline/diesel. And plus I don't think you can ever take a electric vehicle and modify it into a four wheel drive jacked up big mud tire vehicle. Jeep has a hybrid but it's still not fully electric and when I mean Jeep I mean the Wrangler modes
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No_Cherry_1423@reddit

You can probably turn an electric into a four wheel jacked up big mud tire etc. It still has all of those parts, the only thing that is really unable to be addressed is that you will likely kill the efficiency.
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countryboy4x4ing@reddit

That's just not practical, and I think it's a little too late to try to start saving the planet. Well I mean it's never too late but they sure took a little too long, and with how much force and Power it takes a vehicle to spend all four tires at exactly the same time I don't think an electric could do it and on top of that if you run out of battery it's not like you can carry a couple other batteries on you how you can with gasoline jugs.
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No_Cherry_1423@reddit

The efficiency issue is a real thing but the force and power isn’t; the torque of electric motors is insane.
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countryboy4x4ing@reddit

What is Daker?
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No_Cherry_1423@reddit

The top off-road race in the world. Its multiple days largely across the desert. Used to be across the Sahara but now is in the Arabian peninsula for safety plus funding.
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countryboy4x4ing@reddit

So you're saying a fully electric vehicle won the desert race?
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Critical-Magician421@reddit

There's nothing preventing an electric engine from performing well off road
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No_Cherry_1423@reddit

Yeah? It had a range extender in it. If you look at the vehicle you will see. It’s a big lifted 4 x 4 with huge off-road tires. Winning the race shows that it’s not just aesthetic, and it’s incredibly capable.
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countryboy4x4ing@reddit

I wonder what the difference is when it comes to putting bigger size tires and then re-gearing it vs doing the same on that electric one that won the race, 4 wheel driving is so expensive if your serious about it.
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BitScout@reddit

Newer models can literally hand out power through a V2L adapter. Takes some time to push the power to get to the next charge point, but walking to a gas station takes time as well.
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CorrectCombination11@reddit

Tldr: after sales service sucks.  As expected from the chaebol twins. 
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stoned-autistic-dude@reddit

I don’t think chaebol really matters outside of SK. Author mentions the federal tax credit expiring and that’s a US issue. The brand doesn’t have much control over how independent dealerships conduct business. It’s more of an issue with the dealership model. They can start penalizing the dealerships with poor customer service or incorporate secret shoppers possibly.
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DaBanninator@reddit

The fact that they build garbage has nothing to do with the tax credit.
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Teutonic-Tonic@reddit

Automakers can definitely influence their dealers. Kia/Hyundai dealers made their living for years selling inexpensive cars to sub-prime buyers and a certain culture developed. Now that they have more premium offerings like the Telluride and their EV lineup, a lot of these dealers are not adapting to the different expectations of buyers at higher income levels. Definitely not all dealers but definitely a trend in these brands.
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CorrectCombination11@reddit

> The brand doesn’t have much control over how > They can start penalizing the dealerships with poor customer service or incorporate secret shoppers possibly. It's a good start 
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DaBanninator@reddit

Friends don't let friends buy Hyundai Kia products.
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longgamma@reddit

Hyundai dealers are a special grade in dealership tier list. Not the good kind of special grade.
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emperorduffman@reddit

The man says he is an automotive journalist for 15 years, then says he bought a Hyundai for cheap and a first year production Kia. That long involved in the automotive trade and somehow missed that Hyundai and Kia are unreliable brands . This has less to do with EVs being bad and more to do with a crap manufacturer and someone who should know better.
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