Suddenly, violently
Posted by adamsoutofideas@reddit | collapse | View on Reddit | 51 comments
For 100,000 years, a species had lived on this planet with our bodies and brains. That species and its ancestors were so successful, in a world so plentiful, they evolved a postnatal larval stage of complete helplessness that lasted years and required the full attention of an adult for that helpless infant to not die or be eaten. But here we are.
Was it cruelty that protected our ancestors or did they live surrounded by such bounty, they were ignored? Looking at their descendants,.it appears both strategies were successful.
2000 years ago, I am meant to believe, for the first time in the history of procreation, a human egg was fertilized by the creator of the universe so that he could grow up to preach a set of rules for living that would be eternally rewarded after death. A death that the rulers at the time were all too happy to hand out as part of their reign of cruelty to enslave the 99% of the population whose work was needed to support the obscene privilege of the very few. Since then, this pattern has been repeated, protected by the promise of endless reward or punishment for the suffering endured on earth in service of our masters.
For at least 90,000 of the years a species that looks like us has walked this earth, we lived with no master, no understanding beyond myth and whatever tribal culture had survived the bed time stories of our elders. It clearly wasn't out of a lack of capacity that we didn't spend our lives recording these stories; we painted scenes we chose to and could have recorded more. We apparently didn't need rules to be successful, which also means we didn't need leaders or eternal promises. We lived and life was enough.
Life was enough because we were free to live it. We followed our instincts which survival had cultivated over the infinite generations going back to the primordial soup because our history didn't start at some magical inception of our species because there are now hard boundaries in existence, only in the limited imaginations of a nervous scavenger trying to make sense of a life we're not living.
If youre an adult in any modern society you've been told some version of "life is suffering", by a spiritual advisor whose literal job is to convince those of us who recognize the absurdity of living for the happiness and privilege of our rulers while dismissing the importance of our own happiness as juvenile fantasy.
Ever since we've been working "for a greater good", deciding we wanted more out of life has been pathologized by the authority of the time. We were possessed before we were depressed, but there's always been someone whose job it was to tell us we were broken; we were the problem and happiness was accepting our place as servants to a machine that knew better.
But here we are, living the last years of a planet that would have lived forever if it weren't for the wisdom of the plans that were too big for us to understand.
If happiness isn't the purpose of life as an adult and our place isn't to question our role, but to focus on what's directly in front of us and keep our heads down, why are we building our own extinction? If there were a definition for the opposite of wisdom it would be a lifestyle that changed the climate of our only home so quickly, the people *still leading this fucking shit show wouldn't have been born in a world pre-dating the apocalypse the very same assholes engineered!*
One fucking lifetime of this shit to kill a planet that supported all life for billions of years including more generations of our own species living in balance with this world without any culture or education, than years we've lived under the regimes that had plans.
We've even managed to normalize dropping bombs on civilians inside the territory of leaders our leaders are fighting with, like murder and terrorism are a reasonable and meaningful path to political change.
Your discomfort is not the problem. You're right to feel out of place inside a zoo, solving a maze so your boss can eat the cheese at the end, so you can read more stories about the whims of an evil glutton whose power is your obedience. Your pathology used to be the instincts that protected you in an untamed wilderness, but now they're the disease the same rich fucks you work to support, will sell you the cure for to medicate and retrain you into complacency and the life plan, "the dream", you just happen to share with everyone else that involves spending all the fruits of your efforts remaining after paying for your fucking survival on the widgets made by the ultra rich.
What in the fuck are we all doing, going along with this, being miserable to support another day of being fucking miserable, inside a society that rewards cruelty and violating the values we preach, with privilege, wealth, and power. We vote for our bosses to run our lives out of some perverted expectation we're one day away from our own ship coming in, while we celebrate our exploitation as the nature of hard work.
If the purpose of life isn't happiness, what in God's infinite wisdom is the purpose? Dropping death from the sky on people because, despite living nearly identical lives, their skin, language, and culture aren't ours... and some of us take real comfort in dolling out pain and suffering to people that aren't like them like there's justice to be found in torturing people simply for being different.
The descendants of our ancient past that protected their young with wanton cruelty, have proven it is a functional strategy for survival, if cowardly and stupid... but so are the descendants of those who survived through trust and cooperation, or the cowards would have no one to exploit.
You are not sick. Your revulsion is justified and accurate. Be proud of it. It's the deeper truth earned through surviving every generations challenges since the beginning of life on earth. The truth did not begin with the industrial revolution and doing the right thing didn't start with God authoring a book after impregnating a woman without intercourse.
We're ending the world for narratives no more absurd than Santa Claus.
Time to get up and do my part by gifting my life to burning oil for the death machine, lest the bank take my home and with it, my humanity. After all, the homeless aren't *real* people, are they? No, they're the problem, not the bank putting people out into the streets or the billionaires hoarding the wealth of nations... nope, it's the homeless and their drugs. That's the problem.
Rough way to wake up. Nothing a fistful of the good drugs doctors prescribe, made and sold by billionaires, won't numb for the day. Sorry, I mean "medicine". Thank God for all those evil street drugs the bad people take to make the difference so clear. The same parents who want homeless drug addicts punished even more than being robbed of their humanity by the rest of us, feed their children enough speed that they never go a day without their "medicine".
This fairy tale is my worst nightmare and the closest I can get to being heard is paying someone to pretend to listen while trying to steer my thoughts towards celebrating the nightmare and, failing that, feeding me more "medicine" until I'm too doped to tell the difference between dream and nightmare.
Interwebzking@reddit
Smoke ‘em if you got ‘em. Drink ‘em if you got ‘em. Happy Friday.
morganational@reddit
Diarrhea?
NiceSupermarket7724@reddit
Great post.
Your initial mention of the post-natal reality is essential to the pathology that led us here.
For many thousands of years now, maternity has been used, abused, and finally pathologized and mechanized.
Modern gynecology was founded by slaveholding rapists who publicly mutilated women’s genitals for audiences in the round.
The sheer psychological trauma of this has entwined the screams of women on the epidemic blueprint of every human being.
Matriarchy now.
Matriarchy recognizes that every child is sacred and should be the focus of the commons, not the needs of adults.
🌹🪻🌸🌺
MoshiMoshi93@reddit
I love you. Thank you.
Wollff@reddit
That's not the point behind this whole "life is suffering" thing.
No matter the age you live in, sometimes people have small children, and they die in sickness. Or sometimes they are eaten by animals. Or maybe starvation happens because the year is bad. Half the tribe doesn't make it.
Unless you are very lucky, a lot of life just is not very nice. Never has been.
Meh. The planet doesn't live forever. Life at some point started. And life at some point will end. In between there are a lot of ups and downs.
This is not the first mass extinction in the history of this planet. Chances are still reasonably good that it won't be the last either. There should be a few billion years left until the sun dies, and I don't think we will be able to kill off absolutely everything.
So let's not get overly emotional over this, shall we?
You really like romanticizing the shit out of the past, don't you?
We never lived "in balance with this world". We started killing off megafauna way, waaay before anyone ever even wrote the first word.
Nothing on this planet lives "in balance" anyway. Everything that lives here tries its best to eat as much as it can in order to make as many children as it can. Many species doing that to each other developed into stable ecosystems, which remain stable for a while. Until they topple.
In the past very innovative organisms got the idea to breathe out oxygen, and in turn they killed off most of the life that existed on the planet. A very long time ago that happened.
Or very innovative organisms start producing wood, an extremely stable substance, which at that time nothing in the world could break down. AFAIK that killed a lot of things in the long run.
"Balance" is a pipe dream. Balance only holds until the environment changes, or some organism does something novel, which turns out to be incredibly destructive. Then a stable state topples, and (almost) everything dies. That's normal.
I don't know. You don't think we should? Go out. Shoot a cop, or something. If you choose to not accept this mission... Well, then you now know why we are going along with this.
Oh please spare me with "doing the right thing", will you? What you consider "the right thing" in most places, cultures, and times on this planet has not been regarded as "the right thing". For more info on what interesting stuff people regarded as "the right thing" in different societies, talk to an anthropologist.
Hint: A lot of it isn't nice, and isn't even remotely compatible with what "the right thing" in modern western liberal society currently is.
On the one hand, I don't disagree. On the other hand, I despise the ignorant story that at some point, maybe before the industrial revolution, maybe before civilization and agriculture, maybe before we started killing off megafauna around the last ice age, there was some paradise where we lived happily and in balance with nature.
I am sure some cultures at some times to a certain degree did. Until either they fucked themselves up by destroying their environment, the environment fucked them up by catastrophic change, or other people fucked them up.
Santa Claus narratives were born out of a long lasting wish for "the world to be better". And that was born because a world where rarely, but sometimes, a pack of African Wild Dogs might choose to disembowel your child in particular while it's still alive... Such a world just isn't always all that nice.
Okay. How many people holding that opinion have you personally gotten rid of today?
None? Are you going to start next week? No?
Well, here you have your answer. This is why things are the way they are. I don't expect anyone to do what you also are not doing. I made my peace with it.
It's not the worst of times, it's not the best of times. All in all, in geological timelines, things are pretty average. One mass extinction among many. And in human timelines? Just the same. Just another society going down the drain. Happened before. And if we make it out of this as a species, won't be the last time.
And if we don't make it out of this as a species? Not the first time some hominids die out. We probably killed all the others even before we made it out of Africa. The world was never particularly nice. And neither were we.
systematk@reddit
If nothing matters on your defined scale, if suffering is just noise between geological events, if mass extinction is unremarkable and emotional response to it is juvenile or naive, there's no coherent reason to do anything. Including comment on reddit. Including waking up. Including continuing to be alive.
Your response to someone who is struggling and is outpouring to a community in collapse with an emotional prose of how they feel inside is dismissive, disrespectful, and a sideshow of your fake nihilistic behaviors, because if you ACTUALLY believed what you were saying there, you wouldn't even bother responding with some long ass diatribe about how naive someone else is.
You are no better than anyone else here, so maybe step down off your pedestal that you seem to be looking down on others from and step into a reality where the human experience does matter, and what we do with our time does matter. Stop being a dick.
theCaitiff@reddit
OP also insists that humanity grew up in a time when everything was bountiful and resources were plentiful. Ah yes, the ice age, so bountiful. Scan forward a bit and famine after famine after famine show how rich the earth was. Those plagues that killed more people than any war? No big deal, just living in balance with nature things.
It is only AFTER industrialization that we start to see the alleged bounty of nature. Fritz Haber may have killed hundreds of thousands, but he's the reason that we ever crossed a billion people, let alone eight.
A-Supurb-Owl@reddit
Agreed. This isn’t a collapse post but a thinly veiled anti-religion missive that is rambling and mostly not rooted in real facts.
RandomBoomer@reddit
Thank you! Eloquently stated.
CasaSatoshi@reddit
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Im glad someone called put OP's rambling, incoherent, verbose tosh.
infrontofmyslad@reddit
In OP's defense, they might be young, and everyone feels that way when they're young. It isn't until you get older you realize it's an unlikely fluke we're here at all
Theinternetdumbens@reddit
In primate dominance hierarchies, the leader of the group is the one that can do the most damage to others.
krichuvisz@reddit
Sounds like a snipplet from my ongoing inner dialogue.
toxicshocktaco@reddit
Or AI
Varsoviadog@reddit
You will love VALIS from Phillip K Dick
theCaitiff@reddit
Ah, amphetamines, how he loved them. After two weeks without sleep, you start to see some wonderful things.
SomebodyUnown@reddit
Honestly, I understand your revulsion of modern society but stop romanticizing the past. Humans have been at war since before our species existed, wiping out our extremely close humanoid cousins whom we even bred with.
When you look at the first known set of laws and codified justice, the Hammurabi code, how cruel is it? And yet it clearly it must have elevated morality at the time, so how much more awful were humans back then?
Have we normalized dropping bombs on civilians? Clearly you are against it. Most of us in this thread are against it. I am against it. Modern ethics teach against this, and we codified the Geneva Conventions. Why did we have to? Because very very few people even debated whether killing enemy civilians were wrong in old wars and conflicts. Human suffering was much less considered when they were the out group. Yes there has been setback in morality in the last decade but philosophy, understanding of the human condition and suffering, and awareness of it all progresses every year.
Back then, the average person never thought of any of this. They would not be able to conceive how much better life could be. The fact that you and I and many other people are thinking of how life could be, should be is great progress, and millions of people are still fighting for the greater good every day instead of just accepting as is. You and I had the idea of the "greater good" because quality of life and human life has been steadily progressing for centuries. This is a decade of setback in human progress but this is also a decade of human progress manifesting underneath waiting for the moment to take hold and push back all the cruelty we've done lately. While homelessness is a ongoing problem, we have still been studying, testing, implementing solutions. Extreme poverty worldwide has dropped from over 20% in 2010 to 10% in 2025. Human life expectancy is still increasing. Quality of life is improving. Violence is dropping in the USA and many places worldwide. The Great Pacific Garbage Patch is being cleaned up, and they are working on the sources. Overall climate collapse is the biggest worry and yet that is being tackled since the previously biggest contributor China has made significant progress. Even the USA whom is fighting against renewables has added a record amount of it.
Have you considered volunteering for a cause you care about?
merRedditor@reddit
People had built better, healithier societies than we have now pre-agriculture, before everything was owned and commodified. The industrial revolution promised easier lives but just led to a lot of long hours in factories. Now, we're continuing to speed up in the wrong direction of greed leading the way, and our humanity only exists in the arts, which are slowly being phased out as well.
Where the hell is the Delorean?
Few_Fish8771@reddit
Prosperity comes from developing systems and efficiently exploiting opportunities, opportunities come from freedom, freedom comes from the frontier.
Those that wish to take your freedom wish to steal your opportunity for their profit preventing you from prosperity.
Mutualism and solidarity are the best ways forward combined with building systems at scale to create the goods services capital wealth and to provide resources to acquire money as a means of acquiring other forms of capital wealth systems goods or services. The frontier is the best place to build systems as they are under less control and subjugation by predators both legally and de facto. You can also better build systems to defend what you create on the frontier that protects you from the various predators.
khamm86@reddit
“They call it the American Dream because you’ve gotta be asleep to believe it”
- George Carlin
Prestigious-Copy-494@reddit
Maybe join a bowling league or something to stop the rumination.
sujirokimimame1@reddit
This should be required reading in school.
SutenSimba@reddit
Issac Brock is that you? Seriously though I empathize and understand mote deeply than I'd care to admit out loud It is peak insanity this "life" we are forced into
bottom_armadillo805@reddit
First, well written, I feel you. I especially enjoyed the part about owning our instincts about our predicament, and how they have been honed through evolution for millions of years.
So the following isn't meant to be negative or argumentative, just sharing thoughts. I take a little umbrage at some of this romanticizing. Life is suffering. The only people in all of human history who did not think that life is suffering are the people of the modern West, insulated by their immense wealth. Even just \~100 years ago, before some of the miracles of modern medicine, it was normal to see death that wasn't just old people getting old. My grandparents fled the Nakba and survived a war. A friend's parent fled the Khmer Rouge, their whole family died. There's genocide going on literally right now.
My baby died. I've talked to a bunch of people in support groups who have also lost children. My wife's friend is widowed, her husband taken by sickness. Life is suffering, and everybody but the Modern West knows it. It's true now, and always has been, and always will be. The insulation from this fact, or the fear of this fact, is a part of our current crisis. Can billionaires run away from suffering if they have enough money? Even if it means they kill everyone else? Can the Modern West plug their ears long enough, before the suffering comes for them, too?
Like you, I also have a resentment of religion, as someone who was raised religious. However, I think you underestimate the power of ancient religion. Ancient peoples surely had masters, and surely feared some long-forgotten, blood-thirsty gods like we do. In fact, it's my guess that with modern science, potentially we're the most free from religion that we've ever been.
Also, our purpose, so far as we have any, has always been "the greater good", that's how humans evolved to be this way. We're animals that evolved sociability, and were able to survive because of it.
ZenApe@reddit
We're all just meat for the grinder.
Big or small, it eats us all.
lukethe@reddit
Float to the top or sink to the bottom. Everything in the middle is the churn.
StarlightLifter@reddit
Goddamn that line hits. Sometimes I’m not sure if Amos is a villain or a hero, I guess in some ways that’s the point of his character. That said, a brilliant application here to OPs post. I’ll remember that.
comadrejautista@reddit
No bud, this planet was doomed from its inception. Stars are a blessing and a curse, because in a few billion years the sun it'll boil off the oceans and sterilize pretty much all of life on this planet. And if that didn't kill everything, the planet falling into a giant sun would do it.
Quoting this article:
And if that didn't nuke life on this planet, then:
Now, if you think all of this is speculative shit and none of that would happen or that the heat death of the universe is bullshit, well, fair. TBH we'll both be very much dead (if you're real at all. At this point I have no idea who is or isn't an "AI" bot)
lost_horizons@reddit
My fiancee talks like this. I know that within that frame, she's right, as are you. But you're talking billions of years. That grand time scale means literally nothing to anyone. I always push back on her, like, yeah sure eventually humanity will fade away or flare out, and other things will evolve or whatever.
But I'm talking about dealing with the issues of our time. Like Gandalf said, it's only for us to remedy the evil before us; the battles of the future are for the people around then to handle. I'm not worried about the species going extinct in 1 million years, I'm worried about the mother who can't feed her kid today, and the plastic in the oceans.
She also likes to see humans as a kind of geological force or something. Like it's our role to be this go-around's planet killing comet. I don't go in for that frame either. Humans lived a long long time, the majority of our time, in a relative homeostasis with the natural world. You can throw the megafauna extinction at me, but that's not unusual when an invasive species enters a new land unprepared for them. It did balance out after that. Dynamically, never perfectly or in a static way.
The problem isn't "humans" it is "civilization" which destroys soils (a major cause of civilizational collapse all through history) and environments in all of the ways.
comadrejautista@reddit
I get what you're saying, but I see this universe as deterministic in most aspects with a few chaotic elements (non-deterministic quantum mechanics) to stir things up. The resulting state is that we have zero control over anything, as in, free will is just an illusion in this weird movie/dream of a god/experiment/something. And if even if we wanna assume that multi-parallel universes are a thing, we only get to experience one of the results of whatever quantum thing shaped up as, and we won't ever see the other universe where it did something else but it'd be real either way. Save states aren't real or at least I have yet to find a way to rewind time and test different outcomes.
I don't believe in good and evil and I see everything as atoms attracting or repelling stuff and making more of something or less of something.
I don't see humans as the chosen or special creatures that had a role to kill a planet or extinct other species. I think any other life-form had the potential to end up in the same predicament as us. I don't know if, say, owl people, could've developed a way to move this planet to a different solar system, try to alter physics and freeze a sun in its current state or if they should leave this planet and find other places to spread their patterns (genes) until the inevitable end of all things (which seems to be the heat death of the universe. But who really knows?)
And yes, despite seeing the grand cosmic view, I also see the pain in others, in myself and in everything that is "sentient". A big part of me says "dude this fucking sucks". Hence one of the reasons that this consciousness rejects this reality and refuses to create another human mind. Life is just a shitty deal overall, and this human mind wishes to have never been born. But where did that wish even come from? I never picked this brain, body, country, time period, etc. And if I DID choose pre-birth somehow, I don't think I'm very good at this game or even know why I chose this shit build. But then again, I'm aware there's wayyyyyyyyy worse than this current meat bag. It still sucks tho, for reasons I don't really see the point in telling you or anyone else reading this.
A part of me in response to this weird reality and predicament wishes for everything to be joyous, pain-free, good and perfect. However, I'm very aware that my good and perfect might be someone's evil and imperfect. But regardless, if we completely eliminated suffering, "evil", pain or anything that is "negative", would reality even work without an opposite force? Seems that no, because this would be equal to the ultimate equilibrium state leading to the heat death of the universe. And it'd mean nothing ever happens again until...dunno, some "god-like" force resets the universe and here we go again with the opposites game for things to happen.
Ignoring everything else I wrote above, the only truth I know for sure is only one: Once you're dead you'll know what THIS was all about. No one can know anything for certain until that moment. And if it turns out I'm going to "hell" due to my supposedly chosen stupidity and refusal to do the arbitrary "good" that I was supposed to know with utmost conviction, despite no god ever showing up in front of me when I asked for clarification given the thousands of contradictions with multiple religions, then so fucking be it. To be fair, it's not like I could do a better job as a "god" if I was given developer access. I might just delete the whole universe. Or do nothing at all and just join the external observers of this universe eating quantum popcorn for gods or some shit.
Anyway, that's enough of these sleep deprived ranting thoughts. Good day to you and I apologize for this rather pointless rant.
lost_horizons@reddit
I fundamentally disagree regarding free will so I’m not sure we have much to say to each other on this, respectfully. I also do t think we are just physical atoms, so.
infrontofmyslad@reddit
I enjoyed this post. Hope you have a good day
GreenDemonClean@reddit
My hope is that long after we are gone new species evolve and thrive in what is left.
To quote George Carlin (as yourself a master of words), “the planet is FINE… the people are fucked”
Grand-Page-1180@reddit
I doubt they'll be any walking, talking species like us, I think I would just like to see nature take over like it was meant to. Abstract thinking, complex language and culture were flukes.
Top_Hair_8984@reddit
Or a very bad experiment.
Liveitup1999@reddit
They will come again long after people are gone. Might take millions of years but another species will evolve to a complex lifeform. 65 million years ago there were no large mammals. It took a long time for the planet to recover. Who knows maybe there will be some small pockets of humanity that survives but most will not after a major crises. Whether from war or famine or disease humans will continue to grow until it reaches a breaking point. As with other animals we will continue to expand until the food runs out.
Top_Hair_8984@reddit
"We're ending the world for narratives no more absurd than Santa Claus.." Certainly agree with this snippet. We're beyond idiocy, we've gone completely insane with what we've come to believe is our role in life, take. Take everything, you deserve it. And here we are.😶
TheArcticFox444@reddit
Humanity is just following its evolutionary destiny...unimpeded by rational thought. The enemy isn't without...it's within. The enemy, if you really try to be honest with yourself, is modern mans' overblown, ever demanding ego.
In medicine, when human tissue becomes swollen and inflamed, it gets "-itis" tacked onto it...tonsillitis, appendicitis, etc. so I will say that modern man suffers from egoitis. The most public--and dramatic--example of egoitis today was democratically elected and sits in the White House as the leader of the free world!
The study of human nature, including the human ego, is--or should be--the intellectual jurisdiction of academias' psychology, sociology, behaviorism, and a variety of other related --ology and --ism disciplines. How did they miss the massive case of egoitis that plagues modern man? The answer probably lies in the publish-or-perish culture within academia itself.
Publish-or-perish probably played a role in the degradation of science itself. The development of science was one of humankinds' greatest invention to discovering the truth but, it to, fell victim to egoitis. (See: Science Fictions: How Fraud, Bias, Negligence and Hype Undermine the Search for Truth by Stuart Ritchie; 2020.)
Egoitis has been around for a long, long time...predating civilization itself. And it's had a hand in both building and destroying civilizations for the past 10,000 years. Founders of various religions decried the human ego but the organized religions that sprang up in their footsteps fell victim to egoitis..."my religion is better than your religion!" And, so it goes.
If it wasn't so sad it would, indeed, be absolutely comical.
tennezzee88@reddit
wall of drivel, per usual in here
os_enty@reddit
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
2xtc@reddit
Very arch, very depressing, sounds quite a lot to me like teenage angst and ennui.
People have always loved - each other, collective connectivity, mind-altering substances, so Plus ça change really IMO.
RedisaPsyop5647@reddit
A giant asteroid could take us all out in a flash at any moment, and there's nothing we can do about it. Live while you can.
CastAside1812@reddit
Sir this is a Wendey's
lost_horizons@reddit
I don't usually read the long posts but this was great, glad I did. Great, if depressing as fuck. I can relate to it but I also don't let myself stew in it. The good life is still all around us, we've just been blind to it.
Sounds Pollyanna of me to say but I believe it. Once in a while I take a break from drowning in this despairing world and peak my head above the waves and see that beauty, the open sky and the shore of a green good country.
Or really it's more like turning down the volume knob on the hateful staticky rage and doom music they pipe in, and hearing the birdsong and gentle wind in the trees that was there all along. They got us on a wrong wavelength, but shifting is something we can always do.
Freedom starts between the ears, as Edward Abbey said.
No-Diamond3881@reddit
I’ve always turned to Abbey’s writing to keep things in perspective.
Eiswolf999@reddit
Altering states of mind with substances is as old as humanity itself. Also painting vulvas on walls. And moving the body to rhythmic music. It’s Friday. Have fun.
capsfan19@reddit
Yeah. Don’t be acting like my Friday night is something new and different.
GreenDemonClean@reddit
Since you control the weather, make it a nice one ok? I’d love to spend the day in my garden. Working the soil, nurturing living things and creating food sources… might be the one thing thats kept me out of the doom spiral.
That and riding my bike really really fast.
jprefect@reddit
*nymph phase =\= larval phase
JBmadera@reddit
wow, best thing I've read in a very, very long time. thank you so much!
mgustafson5150@reddit
Brilliant and depressing.