moving with pets | TheaterFire

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jquest303@reddit

Why would you move to the US during the second Trump presidency!? That’s the worst time in the history of time to move here! Get your cats and get on a plane and get outta here!

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jquest303@reddit

That’s almost as bad as moving to Gaza right now.

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fawnnk@reddit (OP)

is this post not about me leaving the usa? mind your business 😭

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Moving that far with two cats and coordinating with your husband is a lot of moving pieces. What helped us was putting all the pet requirements, vet records, transport timeline, and logistics in one place so we both knew what needed to happen and when. Works offline so you can check it anywhere without wifi during the move. On Etsy if you want to take a look.

I wrote a full guide on this: blog.clearfolks.com/moving/

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Pointy_in_Time@reddit

I’ve moved twice across the world with two cats. My advice is use a pet service. It’s expensive but worth it.

Also check if there are rabies concerns coming from USA to Ireland (not sure what the rabies status is in Ireland)

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lovepeacefakepiano@reddit

The cats will need rabies vaccines (Ireland has no rabies and prefers to keep it that way).

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Pointy_in_Time@reddit

Oh yeah that makes it more complex!! Hopefully it’s just vaccines and not like titer tests and exclusion periods…

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Early_Switch1222@reddit

USA to ireland with 2 cats is very doable. you have two main paths.

in-cabin or hold travel with you: KLM, aer lingus, lufthansa, and air france all allow pets in cabin (small only, usually 8kg max) or in cargo hold (any size up to weight limits). usually one pet per passenger so you and your husband each take one cat. ireland requires the EU pet passport / animal health certificate from a USDA-accredited vet, rabies titer testing 30 days before travel, and a microchip. timeline is ~3 months end-to-end from first vet appointment.

pet relocation service: starwood animal transport or air animal pet movers. expensive (4-6k usd for 2 cats across the atlantic) but they handle EVERYTHING. paperwork, vet appointments, airline coordination, customs at destination. if youre stressed and want zero administrative overhead, this is worth it.

one gotcha: ireland is rabies-free island so they take import requirements seriously. the rabies titer (blood test showing immunity) has to be done at least 30 days after vaccination AND at least 90 days before travel. miss this window and you get quarantined on arrival. plan backwards from your move date 4 months minimum.

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motorcitydave@reddit

To travel from the U.S. to Ireland with a pet, you must obtain a microchip, an up-to-date rabies vaccination, and an EU Health Certificate that is endorsed by the USDA within 10 days of travel. Dogs additionally require a tapeworm treatment administered by a vet between 24 and 120 hours before arrival. [1, 2, 3]
The necessary steps and timelines to prepare your pet for travel to Ireland include:

• Microchip: Your pet must be implanted with an ISO-compliant (11785) microchip before receiving any rabies vaccinations. • Rabies Vaccination: Your pet must be vaccinated against rabies after the microchip is scanned. If this is a primary (first-ever) vaccination or if it was given after a previous vaccine had expired, you must wait at least 21 days from the date of the vaccine before traveling. • EU Health Certificate: An accredited veterinarian must issue the health certificate. Both non-commercial and commercial certificates require endorsement by your regional USDA Endorsement Office within 10 days of your pet's arrival in Ireland. • Tapeworm Treatment (Dogs Only): Dogs must receive a tapeworm treatment containing praziquantel between 24 and 120 hours (1 to 5 days) before their scheduled arrival in Ireland. • Advance Notification: You must notify the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine (DAFM) of your pet's arrival at least 24 hours prior to landing by emailing them at petmove@agriculture.gov.ie. • Airline Requirements: Check with your specific airline regarding kennel requirements and whether your pet can fly in the cabin or as manifest cargo. Ireland strictly requires that all non-EU pets enter the country at an approved, designated point of entry, such as Dublin Airport. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

For detailed document instructions and to locate the proper forms, always refer to the USDA APHIS Ireland Pet Travel guidelines.

AI responses may include mistakes.

[1] https://www.aphis.usda.gov/pet-travel/us-to-another-country-export/pet-travel-us-finland-malta-ireland-including-northern [2] https://www.aphis.usda.gov/pet-travel/us-to-another-country-export/pet-travel-us-finland-malta-ireland-including-northern-0 [3] https://www.facebook.com/groups/1180884898968404/posts/2944924785897731/ [4] https://www.reddit.com/r/MoveToIreland/comments/1m1ldx5/here_are_my_notestimeline_on_getting_my_dog_from/ [5] https://irelandmoveclub.com/community/pets/updated-pet-info-for-my-move/

That's an AI summary, but here's the steps: 1) read up to date rules on US Aphis for entry for your specific pet, cats and dogs have different rules as do each EU country, so my experience moving dogs and cats to Germany and Italy isn't 100% applicable. 2) find a USDA certified vet to to verify all the vaccines etc are in order 3 months in advance. If a record is missing you may need to re-vaccinate and wait 6 weeks for the pet to be allowed entry. The USDA certified vet also needs to administer any vaccines required to make sure the right info is in each record (chip scan). 3) book the flight with pet cargo, KLM and Lufthansa are great, all US airlines basically did away with this except small pets in cabin so you may have a road trip to get to the right airport for a direct flight operated by Lufthansa or KLM. 4) book your vet appointment based on your departure date to get the USDA certified EU pet health certificate for each pet. You will probably need to prepay an overnight delivery to yourself for the paperwork so make sure it's getting mailed to where you will be 24 hrs before the flight if in case you have to travel for a road trip.

This makes the cost hundreds per pet instead of thousands for pet transport where you are not accompanying them in transit. It's easy enough, but stressful to get the timing right.

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Embarrassed_Key_4539@reddit

You already did it, just do the same thing but the other way 😅

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fawnnk@reddit (OP)

i thought it would be obvious so my bad actually but we got the cats here in usa

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Embarrassed_Key_4539@reddit

Oh word, ok so since there is two of you it should be easy. You will each carry a kitty on the plane. Check Ireland’s vaccine requirements and if they need to quarantine. Then you go to a vet here and get a USDA certified health certificate for each kitty, this will probably be a few hundred each. You will need to pay for them on the plane too. But it’s very easy and doable. I’m moving to Central America next month with 6 dogs, so I know a bit about moving animals. I’m just not sure of the entry requirements from Ireland but you’ll be able to find that easily.

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ataylorm@reddit

They can fly in the flight with you. Usually one pet per person. KLM allows them, or did a few years ago. You will need the USDA export paperwork, your vet can help you with that.

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ShinsOfGlory@reddit

I moved almost twice that distance with two dogs, a beagle and a german shepherd, USA to Thailand.

First off, it's mostly the administrative and bureaucratic stuff that is stressful. For instance, we had to change planes in Taiwan so we had to get an import permit for Taiwan on top of our final destination of Thailand.

Both Thailand and Taiwan don't really communicate with you so if you were expecting some gentle hand holding, much like that girl I liked back in high school, you have to adjust your expectations to being thrilled they respond at all.

And both countries insist on only approving your import permit the week you fly. So you have to make flight and all the other arrangements all rolling the dice on this import permit and the foreign governments won't even look at your application until the week you fly. LOL.

The only big deal is that there are some timing issues with the vax dates and your fly dates. Like they have to be vaccinated no more than X days ago and no more than Y days ago. So, you have to line up all of the vaccinations with your flight window, and if your flight window changes, the animals need all new shots.

Everything else is just simple following of whatever the import requirements are for your destination country (Ireland).

Expect a rabies titer test, parvo shots, etc. Many vets have done the pet health passport thing multiple times before and have the paperwork ready and know what shots are required.

There are some regulations about the type of crate if you are going to have them in cargo. Pay particular attention to any requirements for metal fasteners as many manufacturers cheap out and use plastic fasteners. Specific brands and models are often recommended so just stick to what has worked for others.

For us, it was really stressful because we had so much going on with the move itself. We were selling a house, two cars, a motorcycle, etc AND moving dogs. We also ended up having to live out of a hotel for 2-weeks because of the way the house sale closing and the airline flights lined up so everyone was very cranky (including the dogs - lol).

You can also hire a service who will take care of everything for you. They tend to be wildly expensive for the service they perform but they are used by people who absolutely cannot handle the government paperwork and hassle. They will hand hold you through the process and do all of the pick ups and drop offs.

Pick your poison, pay someone $$$$ or do it yourself and 😭😭😭😭