Nvidia really doesn't seem to care about gaming GPUs anymore — the company won't even bother to break down graphics sales in its big investor reports
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sa-he75@reddit
They have a new multi trillion toy.
wickedplayer494@reddit
Fixed, because Quadro/NVRTX/RTX PRO got absolutely 0 minutes of runtime at the last GTC, and the GTC before that. You think the "GAMING!!!" crowd has it bad, try the workstation market.
wtallis@reddit
Best illustrated by how Nvidia announced DGX Station with GB300 at GTC 2025, then announced it again at GTC 2026 with less RAM, and it's still not readily available. The prospect of selling $100k workstations that would be the undisputed best AI workstations on the market just isn't lucrative enough for them to bother getting the product out the door, because they're too busy printing money by putting the same silicon into servers that are sold by the rack-full.
cloudone@reddit
It’s not that they can’t be bothered. They have to maximize profits with their limited tsmc allocation
Elderbrute@reddit
It's wierd though because they aren't actually shipping thst many of the data centre cards they are just storing them ready for the data centres that may or may not ever be built.
Nvidia "investing" billions into companies that have not actually found gold yet so they can buy more shovels when they already have warehouses full of shovels they can't use.
few@reddit
They are actually shipping the data center variants like the b300's in large quantities. They're back ordered and have 6-8 week lead times, even for high-volume customers.
I get to play with B200's and B300's. An org I work with has been waiting months for an additional ~20x B300's.
On a personal level, getting individual cards is a pain. I relentlessly checked inventories, then drove an hour to pick one up in a local store.
But I can understand why they prioritize shipping 500k$ servers rather than 5k$ individual cards.
Elderbrute@reddit
Yes and no, your org can't buy is because the hyperscalers have bought the entire stock, NVIDIA won't sell you a card that oracle already bought and paid for. But Oracle, SoftBank, OpenAI etc bought enough GPUs to kit out every data centre they claimed to be building in 2025. Ignoring all the cancelled projects of which there are many Avalon was supposed to be 1.2GW by now but in reality it's not even 1/3rd of that, Which means they have at least 0.8GW sat ready to install that hasn't been installed most of which will be GPUs. Many of those GPU's are being stored for customer by Nvidia.
nVidia have been exploiting their position as the dominant player to force companies to buy GPU's the shortage is a self fulfilling prophecy, if you don't buy them today you won't be able to buy them tomorrow when you need them, and if you cant get them tomorrow well you'll be behind. Most of the GPUs nvidia has sold in 2025 have not been installed in a data centre, and will be at least 1 generation old by the time they are installed. Supermicro famously have $1.4billion in GPUs sat on their books due to Oracle going back on deals with them if there were really a shortage then this wouldn't be the case they would have all been snapped up in no time, but the shortage is being artificially induced by FOMO on an industrial scale.
ResponsibleJudge3172@reddit
It's basically an emotional plea to drop Nvidia for competition at this point, rather than objective rage
shadowtheimpure@reddit
The only hiccup is that CUDA is the gold standard for GPU compute...and CUDA is NVIDIA proprietary. ZLUDA as a compatibility layer is getting better, but it's not perfect.
Etroarl55@reddit
Vro didnt even mention ROCM by name 🥀
Strazdas1@reddit
ROCm isnt worth mentioning.
shadowtheimpure@reddit
Native ROCM would require the software devs to completely re-engineer their software to support it. ZLUDA simply translates the existing CUDA code to be compatible with ROCM.
EmergencyCucumber905@reddit
No they don't. HIP is syntactically and semantically 99.99% similar to CUDA. They just need to convert the CUDA code to HIP, which is automated, and rebuild. This is how most of the big projects do it.
Alternatively they can write everything in HIP and target both AMD and Nvidia.
From-UoM@reddit
So even less support for native ROCm making all apps CUDA mandatory
shadowtheimpure@reddit
ROCm hardware has a tiny share of the market. There is no money in supporting ROCm over CUDA until that changes. ZLUDA fills the gap.
Tai9ch@reddit
AI translating CUDA into whatever works pretty well.
Hopefully Nvidia fails to serve the dev market long enough that the moat gets completely filled in.
From-UoM@reddit
You do realize translating for Cuda would mean Cuda in the first place?
If things like Zluda are hurting ROCm even more with devs going "Eh, i will only write for Cuda. Who knows if for Zluda will even work. I will let them figure it out"
Tai9ch@reddit
If that were true then Proton would be bad for Linux gaming. People argued that for a while, but now it's obviously irrelevant. When most people run a game on Linux they don't even bother checking if it's a native binary or whether it uses DirectX vs. Vulkan - it all just works except for a few edge cases.
We're nearly at the same point with CUDA on AMD via HIPify, and Intel's catching up with SYCLomatic. If you're writing your own kernels you've got lots of choices (including higher level tools that transparently support everything), and if you're not writing them then you mostly don't need to care how they were written.
I mentioned AI before, and where AI comes in is that you don't need to learn the kernel languages to fix bugs or do light optimizations for your specific hardware when that comes up. And if you're actively working on ROCm or SYCL code, then existing CUDA code that's related is great pseudocode to feed your LLM friend.
From-UoM@reddit
All it will take is Microsoft not allowing DirectX emulation and kill linux gaming on the spot.
shadowtheimpure@reddit
Proton isn't emulation, it takes the native DX calls and translates them in real time to equivalent Vulkan calls. As such, there wouldn't be fuck all that MS could do as long as it doesn't use any proprietary code...which it doesn't.
From-UoM@reddit
They don't need block proton's translation.
They can just change DirectX and effectively block it from the inside. Its their code and software after all.
The next version of Direct X has been teased with Project Helix. Dont be suprised if Proton cannot run it at all.
shadowtheimpure@reddit
All it takes is documenting what the new DX calls do and map them to equivalent Vulkan calls. It would slow things down a little bit, but MS can't really obfuscate what the calls do otherwise developers wouldn't be able to use it to make games.
Express_Living2264@reddit
at this point that might simply mean devs not using dx anymore as they don't want to lose the steam deck compatibility.
shadowtheimpure@reddit
Would be best for the gaming industry as a whole to adopt Vulkan as the go-to rather than DX.
From-UoM@reddit
Down a little bit?
It will take years just like it took proton years to get DX12 translation which launched in 2015
shadowtheimpure@reddit
The first revision of Proton didn't release until 2018, and that was before the full weight of the open source community was behind it. Now the whole WINE team, plus the DXVK team and the Proton team at Valve are all-in and development and advancement are rapid.
LAUAR@reddit
How would they do that?
msqrt@reddit
Just imagine if we didn't fumble this from the beginning and built everything on top of OpenCL instead.
Allfeelings0Logic@reddit
Yes because Radeon is not doing the exact same.
Allfeelings0Logic@reddit
Are they breaking down automobile chip sales because that's even worse than workstation, are they breaking down Nintendo chip sales because that's also worse. Everything that's not AI is small business but that doesn't mean Nvidia is going to stop selling Tegra Switch 2 chips to Nintendo.
-PANORAMIX-@reddit
Yeah basically the entire 3D market
DehydratedButTired@reddit
Nvidia hasn’t cared about gaming guys since the 30 series and only put up numbers for investors since then. Ai has held the priority since the RTX launch and the profits are so high now that they don’t have to pretend to care about gaming any more.
NeroClaudius199907@reddit
Did you personally buy Nvidia's competition even if rdna3 didn't have full suite like lovelace?
ResponsibleJudge3172@reddit
Considering RDNA3 had worse per SKU uplift than Blackwell,...
DehydratedButTired@reddit
SKU uplifts are out the window for everyone. You could argue that even Nvidia has dropped the quality of their sku tiers. A 5070 is what a 4060 used to be and the lower you go the bigger the quality drop.
Strazdas1@reddit
When will this utter nonsense stop being repeated? You are embarrassing yourself with not knowing how GPU naming works.
DehydratedButTired@reddit
Ah my bad. It’s just product naming. We should be paying less for improvements.
Strazdas1@reddit
We should be paying what we think is acceptable for performance we want. Otherwise - dont buy it.
DehydratedButTired@reddit
Vote with you wallet. What happens when there’s nothing you can afford because of artificial circumstances?
They don’t care about you anymore.
Strazdas1@reddit
Then you dont buy. A GPU isnt basic necessity. Or you adjust your values and just pay the price.
DehydratedButTired@reddit
I didn’t realize GPUs is for an upper class thing
Strazdas1@reddit
Its not. At current prices GPUs are not only affordable for lower classes, gaming is still one of the cheapest hobbies in existence in terms of dollars/hour.
If GPU is too expensive for you, that is caused by your own valuation of its worth and nothing else.
DehydratedButTired@reddit
Right. It’s my fault again. I shouldn’t expect progress or performance per dollar improvement.
Strazdas1@reddit
But you are getting tons of performance per dollar improvements?
DehydratedButTired@reddit
We are not by the numbers.
Strazdas1@reddit
Yes, we are. Have you forgotten to adjust for inflation?
ResponsibleJudge3172@reddit
4060 is the lowest tier GPU Nvidia makes. The AD107, and the only chip that argument of yours even applies to which is hilarious.
5060 has better specs in almost every way than 4060 never mind 4060
DehydratedButTired@reddit
As sku is an arbitrarily assigned number, they call it what they want. There have been 2060s with flawed 2080 skus.
If you took that 1070 by performance uplift and comparison percentage in comparison to the cards in the same tier, it would be about the 5080 in scale.
The charts here show it pretty clearly.
https://gamersnexus.net/gpus/great-nvidia-switcheroo-gpu-shrinkflation
Strazdas1@reddit
that chart makes no sense whatsoever. According to that chart a 5080 should be at 100% because thats the starting point of the chart in SKU naming.
EJ19876@reddit
Gaming is a much smaller part of Nvidia now than it was only a few years ago, absolutely, but it is still a division with thousands of staff & dedicated engineering resources that's producing considerable profits for the company at very health margins. There's zero indication that Nvidia doesn't care about gaming anymore, either. Drivers are frequently updated. DLSS continues to be updated. The 60 series is in the pipeline. They're producing & selling billions of dollars worth of 50 series.
Investors simply don't care about gaming anywhere near as much as they do about data centre, but that's for very obvious reasons. Data centre earned $195 billion in revenue and profit of $130 billion. The graphics division's figures for FY2026 were $22.4 billion in revenue and $9.1 billion profit. See the difference is scale here? Nevertheless, no sane company is going to abandon a market segment producing $9.1 billion profits. Nvidia's graphics division is as profitable as huge companies like Mercedes Benz, Salesforce, Sony, and IBM.
nisaaru@reddit
My problem is that I don't really get the long term business plan in 10+ years perhaps.
Sure the AI market has a lot of money coming in at the moment and who wouldn't want to ride this wave of easy money. But the actual core chips are "primitive" and not really protected by bazillions of patents and game driver knowhow like with GPUs. At least that's my armchair perspective on the needs for AI chips.
So it should be relatively easy to break into that market for everybody else especially with the kind of money thrown around.
All I really see is that NV have established products now but nothing stops other heavyweight to make their own which would be cheaper on the long run anyway and making your server farms either cheaper/profitable or bigger.
That would create a situation in the next 5-10+ years where the big companies have their own custom solutions or might offer theirs to lesser tier companies which then NV would compete with for market share.
What's wrong with my picture here?:-)
Strazdas1@reddit
Out of all the ones that tried, google is the only one who has a successfully competitive product. And they arent selling theirs.
nisaaru@reddit
At the moment and before the massive investments. But how will this look in 5-10 years is the question.
Strazdas1@reddit
Who knows. Amazon will probably sort its version out. Maybe facebook too. Others, i dont see it so far.
StarfieldEnjoyer@reddit
The upfront investment for any ASIC is insane, and that only grows with the size of the project. Making something like a GPU from scratch is inconceivably expensive for any company that is not backed by a state or billion dollar companies.
Then there comes two more problems, that same company has to bid for fab time against Nvidia, and most industry and scientific software is already written in CUDA.
Inevitable_Case_9931@reddit
That would imply that smaller companies can somehow keep up with the power needs for future compute power over 10-15 years which they won’t. Just like all industries once things are settled the big boys are going to buy up all the smaller startups that had infrastructure but not the money to continue in market.
nisaaru@reddit
I'm referring to the big companies like MS, Google, Amazon and co. which have the infrastructure+money to do their own chips. The volume of the AI investments has been so high that doing their own designs would just be a minor factor outside of time. So when they do that and maybe even sell their designs downwards NV's AI market would shrink a lot.
pesca_22@reddit
that would be true if this was an "and" market, you sell the racks AND the consumer boards to make more money, yet today market is an OR - you sell the racks OR the consumer boards as production is totally capped and already out sold for the next few years.
who in their right mind would prefer producing more consumer boards when it comes at the cost of producin less racks?
Veedrac@reddit
Well, remember that NVIDIA's USP is their ecosystem. Selling consumer GPUs at below-market rates makes sense if that protects the bigger market.
Allfeelings0Logic@reddit
This just in Nvidia discountinues the 50 series and RTX Pro Blackwell cards. 60 series and RTX Pro Rubin are cancelled.
Guess what.. that's the exact opposite of what Nvidia will do.
cw88888@reddit
Do they even have consumer GPU sales much to begin with, considering the extreme pricing of GPUs, doubt many people are buying.
coolrunnings190@reddit
The extreme pricing exist because of the demand...
WildVelociraptor@reddit
That's irrelevant here
Strazdas1@reddit
How? Literally asks if anyone is buying them and demand is irrelevant? Demand is exactly whats relevant.
Strazdas1@reddit
They are 94% of all consumer GPU sales. And people are buying in millions.
WildVelociraptor@reddit
Exactly. Of course most of their money comes from enterprise/pro sales, their income from consumer GPUs is literally irrelevant.
UmaThurmish@reddit
inb4 I get downvoted by a stock bro as 90% of this subreddit is stock bros
ofcourse they don't. it's a K shaped economy. the billionaires and millionaires are doing 50% of the spending and have all the money, this isn't 2008 anymore. 2008 crash happened because people bailed out.. these companies can infinitely buy stuff from each other and the government prints more and more money, so inflation heavily benefits them as it inflates stock prices, thus their collateral, circular economy goes and goes
st0rm__@reddit
jfc stock bros, really? Redditors think adding "bro" to anything invalidates it, tech bro, crypto bro, ai bro... Maybe if you had made some smart investments you wouldn't be pissing yourself over yhe price of computer parts.
AndorinhaRiver@reddit
I mean, from my experience in the tech field, most investors don't really know what they're doing
Like I've never seen an economics guy who "likes tech" actually know much about tech, they often just focus on what's new and shiny
Strazdas1@reddit
I guess you dont actually talk to economic guys :)
LLMprophet@reddit
Not sure if you've been paying attention to the stock market because based on market action, finance bros also don't know what they're doing.
Strazdas1@reddit
You know what "bro" does? it invalidates anyone using that word.
king_of_the_potato_p@reddit
lol way to out yourself.
Minced-Juice@reddit
All it'll take for this to pop is some ballistic missiles headed for Nvidia's offices in the occupied territories.
Which has a non-zero and very high probability of happening.
x8code@reddit
NVIDIA creates the best gaming GPUs in the entire world, by a HUGE margin, and has the best driver software of any company out there.
FUD article
Etroarl55@reddit
It was only two generations ago where the 6950xt was beating the 3090 or 3090ti. Amd just gave up on the high end after that.
Strazdas1@reddit
no it wasnt. the entire 6000 series was trash.
jocnews@reddit
AMD didn't gave up, their RDNA 4 highend was chiplet-based and it didn't work. It's forced result of a cancelled product, not willingly abandoning the market.
jenny_905@reddit
It never beat either of those and long term the 6000 series was a very poor purchase.
Westdrache@reddit
I mean at that point Nvidia already had Decent DLSS and RT performance.
While AMD had non and came back from the 5XXX Series that didn't really sell well
zerinho6@reddit
I always wonder what these reports or people mean by "don't care about gaming." Isn't NVIDIA the one that actually has software support constantly extending across a wide range of gpu generations? And the one pushing for graphics innovation? And the GPU company which most sponsors and helps dev teams to add the tech they create?
I guess for those people what NVIDIA says matters more than what NVIDIA does.
-Outrageous-Vanilla-@reddit
Nvidia Is pushing for propietary tech that binds you to their ecosystem.
They don't play nice with open standards.
Strazdas1@reddit
is that why Nvidia open sourced more tech than AMD ever made, let alone open sourced? You do realize most games now have open source implementation of PhysX because its built into game engines? PhysX has been open source since 2018.
StickiStickman@reddit
Yea those evil proprietary techs like ... upscaling via Streamline and NTC that works on AMD and Intel?
Tonkarz@reddit
Well they’ve recently ended support for not-that-old GPUs and they seem to be not doing much innovation, just recycling DLSS in different ways. Pulsar is probably their biggest innovation in recent years and that was only revealed a few months ago.
StickiStickman@reddit
How the fuck is NTC "just recycling DLSS"? It's literally revolutionary.
Strazdas1@reddit
Invention of electric lighting does not look like much to a blind man.
soggybiscuit93@reddit
Are we talking about them ending Pascal game-ready driver support roughly a \~decade after launch (while still providing security updates until 2028).
I think 12 years of total software support is plenty reasonable.
ghenriks@reddit
Some of the gaming media are taking advantage of the segment of gamers who are upset that they can’t buy a high end card for $200 and the belief that if Nvidia isn’t willing to sell their dream card at that price then it must mean Nvidia is abandoning gaming
The facts don’t matter to this narrative
The fact that Nvidia continues to put significant resources into driver development and game optimization is ignored
The fact that Nvidia needs gaming GPUs to be the training ground for CUDA developers is ignored
The fact that Nvidia needs gaming hardware for the developers who are going to create the next big thing after LLMs that runs on and thus sells Nvidia hardware is ignored
Its not rational
unixmachine@reddit
Nvidia is even hiring people to develop specifically for game drivers... on Linux! Recent job postings involved hiring people with experience in Valve's Proton. And it's having an effect, decades-old bugs are being fixed at a rapid pace. This doesn't seem like the attitude of someone abandoning gamers. In fact, they're even speculating that Nvidia might launch a Steam Machine.
Strazdas1@reddit
The linux driver narrative is strange too. If you look outside of gaming Nvidia has the best drivers by far. Its only gaming where it has any issues on linux, you know, the platform people barely even used for gaming until proton.
JonWood007@reddit
As one of those "$200 GPU" buyers, rolls, fricking, eyes
Here's the reality of the situation. 10 years ago, we had options ranging from the 1050 for like $110, to the 1080 ti for $700. That gives us a lot of options at a lot of price ranges. You could get an entry level card on par with the previous 960 for $110, a very low and nonexistence price in the current market. You could get a 980 tier GTX 1060 6 GB for $250, the 980 ti tier 1070 was $379. These were reasonable prices. We would see performance double for around $250ish every 3 years or so. Compare the 8800 GT of 2007, to the GTX 460 of 2010, to the GTX 760 of 2013, to the 1060 of 2016.
By this logic we should've seen a $250 1080 ti tier card by 2019. We should be seeing 5070 tier hardware for that price by 2022. And yeah, 5090 tier performance should've been available by 2025. Instead nvidia invested in ray tracing and DLSS, went all in with that instead of just giving us better raster, and drastically raised the price of cards for the privilege. And before you say "but but inflation", they did that back in 2018. The RTX 2060 was a $350 card...closer to the GTX 1070 price tier. The 2070 was $500, which was closer to the 1080 price tier, the 2080 was $700, the previous 1080 ti price. They then gave us the 1660 ti for $270, replacing the 1060 6 GB. They bumped everything up a price tier.
And then they abandoned the low end of the market. They released that travesty of a 3050 for $250. That should've been an entry level $100-150 card. Let's give you "but inflation" by then. Okay, well, the 3060 should've been around $220, the 3060 ti maybe $270 or $300. 3070 should've been maybe $450. etc.
5000 series. The 5050 should be a $150 level entry card. Again, they still sell RX 6500s at that price, if not 6400s. The 5060 should be around $200-220 again. $300ish for a 5060 ti. Maybe a bit more for 16 GB. 5070 for $500 (finally). Etc.
Is that what we get? No! Instead its $250 for a 50 series card, the BARE MINIMUM 60 card is $300 with the good ones exceeding $400. it's INSANE!
I dont think my standards are unrealistic. Given the history of GPUs and how we'd see generations jump a solid 2 tiers of performance, with stuff like the 460, 660, and 1060 costing half of the price of the 280s, 580s, and 980s before them with similar levels of performance, I don't think ANY of this is unrealistic. Something is SERIOUSLY screwed with the GPU market, and quite frankly, it's very obvious the problem is these companies dont care about average consumers any more. They care about AI, they care about enthusiasts willing to drop $500+ on cards, and they DONT care about your typical $200 GPU buyers. We're "little people" to them. We dont matter. We're not profitable enough given they got rich friends in the AI biz and hobbyists willing to throw seeingly unlimited sums of money at jensen to play cyberpunk with super spicy shadows on.
So yeah, that's why we're complaining. But hey, make it act like we're "entitled" when all we're asking for is check notes, the same price/performance jumps we've seen until 2018 or so.
coffee_obsession@reddit
The cost per wafer that nvidia builds chips on has skyrocketed from one generation to the next, so the days of good, low end chips are long over. If you want to consider just inflation, the 1060 and 1070 are $346 and $525 respectively. That’s a 38.4% increase in cost from MSRP at release.
To get back to the original point, wafer costs for Pascal on 16nm in 2016, was upwards of $6,000 for a 300mm wafer. Adjusted, its $8,300. The same sized wafer on 5nm is about $18,500. That’s a 123% increase. Hold on to your seat cause 2nm is looking like its about $30,000 per wafer. So the only way to keep the same tier card costing roughly the same from one generation to the next is to decrease chip sizes which directly impacts raw performance, bandwidth, and VRAM pool.
JonWood007@reddit
"BUT BUT INFLATION!"
Ignoring that this crap started in 2018, before "inflation."
Really. Never seen a group so willing to defend higher prices for things.
Actually I have but it's always pathetic when it happens.
If tech is stagnating, then here's another solution, DONT RAISE SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS FOR GAMES. but NOOOOO we're just expected to pay MORE for cards to keep "progress" going at all costs. Even though games in 2026 only look marginally better than games from 2016 despite requiring several times more processing power to run.
Here's the thing. At the end of the day, I'm a consumer. I dont care about your fancy supply side BS. I just want cheap cards. I can't get cheap cards, then expand the lifespan of tech until it DOES become affordable. Dont just keep raising the fricking price of crap. At this point you're just pricing people out of the market in the name of "progress." Really it's that simple.
In other words. I DONT CARE. And that's the thing, to go full circle, they dont either. They dont care about producing an affordable product for me. They care about the people who will spend thousands on new cards.
So it's kinda proving my point either way.
coffee_obsession@reddit
Do you honestly expect costs to increase for any corporation and for none of them to get passed on to the consumer?
Also, can you say that your own income has not grown since 2016?
Raster has run its course and we need to look at other techniques to improve fidelity. Hence ray tracing and machine learning suit of technologies to improve visualization. Its a trade off of how much die space you want to give up for any given performance.
I'm also going to counter that games do look significant better in 2026 than they do in 2016. That is just a wacky point.
I cant force you to live in the real world, but it'll keep chugging along regardless of your willingness to accept it. Just don't live too deep into fantasy land where you get run over. Good luck to you out there.
GPUs are lasting longer than they ever have been before. You could still game pretty well on a 2XXX series card, you just have to be willing to lower graphical settings, but at least games wont be looking worse than they were 10 years ago. Your upfront costs are going to be higher if you want to buy a brand new card, obviously, but it is significantly easier to stretch your GPU's longevity today.
If you think cards today are not priced affordably, maybe its time to start browsing the used market for upgrades. A quick look at ebay shows a 4070 for $420 and 3080 at $330. You'll be gaming just fine on either one.
996forever@reddit
Everything you said can be true and yet it still has nothing to do with whether nvidia “cares about gaming” or not.
JonWood007@reddit
Well they sure af dont care about most gamers that's for sure.
996forever@reddit
For sure they don’t but they do care about the technology behind gaming.
ghenriks@reddit
GPUs have matured, the easy performance wins are long gone
Anyone old enough saw this with CPUs. The exciting days of the mid to late 90s. The first CPU to reach 1 GHz and then beyond. Significant clock boosts with each yearly release
But then we reached a limit. They couldn’t crank the clocks any higher and performance increases became minor to very minor
GPUs are now in the same boat. The easy gains are gone. Each node improves performance a bit but comes with a price increase. That is why Nvidia added ray tracing, because it was the only way to keep the improvements coming
And it isn’t unique to gaming. The performance gains for LLMs in Blackwell came from using a smaller number format FP4
JonWood007@reddit
People made the same excuse for the intel stagnation era and the +10% gains a year. And maybe the gains have gone. Still, they did pretty good up until pascal, and I'd argue turing still delivered very substantial gains. They just strapped on a ton of RT cores and raised the price $100. But seriously. Take the RT cores off and reduce the price and what do you get? a 2060 with 1080 performance for $250. A 2070 with 1080 ti performance for $400. You get the same price structure and a solid 60% gains in every price tier.
Instead we got RT, which is basically useless to normal gamers since no one wants to play games at 30 FPS just to have super ultra shadows on.
3000 series. Maybe a bit more of an incremental gain, but meh, we had gens like that too. But a 3060 with 1080 ti performance? if that sold at $220/250 or something that would've been solid. The 3060 ti had 2080 super level performance. Sell a $600 last gen equivalent for $300-350 or so, hell yeah!
I mean, I dont know how you guys can honestly look at me with a straight face and say the stuff you're saying.
4000 series, can we talk about how the 4070 has performance equivalent of a 3090? Again, 70 cards having the performance of a previous 80 ti/90 style card used to be common. And nvidia did it again.
And the 5000 series. A bit of a bummer at the high end, but still, we're now talking 3060/4060 tier performance at the 5050 level, 5060 is on par with a 3070, the 5060 ti is at 87% of the 4070's level of performance.
Again, we keep the same price structure, things are still improving. Maybe we dont get my prediction of 5090 level performance by 2025. I'll concede that much to you. maybe that 8x increase from the 8800 gt to the 1060 in 9 years wasnt gonna happen. Still, would the 3.25x increase we get going to the 5060 ti make sense? And this isnt even going into how one of the techtubers, either HW unboxed or gamers nexus looked at the die size of these cards and notes how anemic the die sizes of these cards are and how the 60 cards are equivalent to what the 50 cards used to be.
Seriously. We're getting scammed. It's the intel quad core era all over again, just instead of stagnation we're getting all the progress coming with all of these new tiers of cards and performances that push out the budget gamers, make the old midrange the new budget, and make the old enthusiasts the new midrange with the new enthusiasts spending $1k+ on cards.
Really. I dont get how you guys can just defend this behavior it's straight up predatory.
BenFoldsFourLoko@reddit
people were shitting on Intel for 14nm++++++++++++
and Intel got bogged down trying to get to newer nodes. TSMC and other current attempts at reaching cutting edge nodes aren't getting bogged down, they're taking normal amounts of time
so when Nvidia has to wait for TSMC or current era Intel, and when TSMC isn't literally a part of Nvidia like Intel's foundries are, it's not shocking that a slowdown has come
JonWood007@reddit
Still doesn't justify gpus being so ridiculously expensive or price/performance bejng virtually frozen for 3-4 years now.
BenFoldsFourLoko@reddit
Yeah, I'm less defending it and more just saying it's not that insane.
Or at least, the most general and bare facts aren't so insane.
What's still insane is Nvidia charging more than their MSRP, and them giving the paltry amount of VRAM that they did.
$1,000 for a 5070 Ti is nuts lol. $750 for a 5070 Ti with 16GB of VRAM, or a fucking 5070 with 12GB is nuts lol.
LAwLzaWU1A@reddit
Gamers truly are the most oppressed group. 😞
Different_Lab_813@reddit
RT cores and Tensor cores take a small amount of die space, fact that you don't know this makes your ramblings moot.
JonWood007@reddit
Gee funny being told that after years of being told gpus were expensive because they needed that stuff now.
Different_Lab_813@reddit
Thing said by brain dead redditors GPUs are expensive and they won't be becoming cheaper.
JonWood007@reddit
Oh really and why is that?
alpharowe3@reddit
A high end card is like a grand or more wtf you talking about $200?
Not to mention RAM, and SSD prices. The DIY gaming PC hobby is certainly not in a good place right now.
ghenriks@reddit
My point was there is a vocal part of the gaming community who expect that price, not that it is realistic
alpharowe3@reddit
No one expects that. I got a 7900xt with 20gb of vram for $600 3 years ago.
If you want to beat my card by more than 20% with NV you need a 5080 and the cheapest 5080 is $1300 MORE THAN DOUBLE THE PRICE and it has 25% less vram.
kwirky88@reddit
That’s before 2024 which saw 20-38% inflation in the MSs equity markets year over year, depending on the month. Inflation has been insane since 3 years ago, so expecting a top tier gpu for $600 isnt realistic. Sit on it, until it dies.
king_of_the_potato_p@reddit
Got my 9070xt red devil for $649….
The nvidia options that are better are 1K+ and even then only slightly better.
alpharowe3@reddit
NV would probably have performance out pacing inflation if it had focused resources on gaming gpu hardware instead of AI and upscaling software, no? 5090 is like 300% faster for example.
jinjuwaka@reddit
A huge part of the problem is that the datacenter billionaires are hording hardware, buying out entire production runs years in advance.
Even with limits hit for GPUs we should be seeing a rise in AI cards for enthusiast usage. However, the billionaires are trying to use AI to replace their employees so they don't need to pay anyone a salary anymore.
kwirky88@reddit
The execs prefer being slapped in the face with large wads of money they get to keep.
DiggingNoMore@reddit
It's supposed to be $999.
Jiopaba@reddit
"Nobody believes that, that's just a ridiculous strawman" except I was reading the someone bitching about precisely that exact thing like four comments up, how there's no more $200 budget cards and even if we account for inflation it should be like $250 then or $300 at the absolute most.
itsjust_khris@reddit
It's not ridiculous that people are upset getting a "decent" gpu costs more than it did previously. It's also not ridiculous gaming media doesn't care about what else you can do with a GPU, no amount of explanation is going to make someone who games care about non gaming applications. At the end of the day they aren't buying the cards to develop CUDA programs.
-WingsForLife-@reddit
Don't forget tertiary stuff like G-Sync Pulsar
Radiant-Sherbet-5461@reddit
Tech journalists geared towards consumers and gamers have absolutely nothing to report so in order to survive (and thrive) they've turned to the rageclickbait machine.
TheIndecisiveBastard@reddit
TBF Jensen “Moore’s law is dead” Huang and the DLSS 5 bunch (debacle) have shown that NVIDIA’s at least a little out of touch with the general gaming audience.
Strazdas1@reddit
You mean the general gaming audience is blind and made up false narratives about DLSS5 early tech demo? Remmeber all the people saying its redrawing the image and changing facial features? thats completely false btw which anyone with a simple image editor can prove for themselves.
Throwawayeconboi@reddit
Did you not see DLSS 5? Clearly, they don’t care about gaming or the art itself. It’s simply a testing ground for their GPU technologies which strengthen other aspects of their business.
postrap@reddit
pushing for graphics innovation lol
Devatator_@reddit
They've certainly done a lot more than AMD and Intel, while not even feeling threatened by them
ResponsibleJudge3172@reddit
They also, we're the only ones who actually did seperate gaming from their reports til now
Ok-Replacement6893@reddit
Which would you care more about? A $2000 card or a $20,000 card? Especially when there's a mad rush to build data centers full of the more expensive one.
alpharowe3@reddit
So does AMD, no?
soggybiscuit93@reddit
These headlines are getting pretty hyperbolic.
Nvidia is combining gaming and workstation GPUs into a single category for financial reporting because they're both in the single digits for their revenue.
But Nvidia has corned a multi-$billion market. They may not prioritize this segment as much anymore, but they're certainly not going to just give up one of their near monopoly markets that generates over $10B per year. They'll continue to put less effort into it, but they're not gonna just hand it over. If anything, Nvidia's competition seems to be putting less effort into taking this market from them then Nvidia has put into holding it.
As for merging gaming and workstation - That's also how Intel and AMD report CPU revenue. Threadripper, Desktop, and Laptop are all reported under a single "Client and Gaming" line item.
BobSacamano47@reddit
What makes you think Nvidia hasn't been putting in a ton of effort to hold this market?
soggybiscuit93@reddit
Because they really haven't. RTX50 series for gaming was released on N4 despite N3 being available so they could use the latest node allocation for their datacenter products.
They've delayed the release of RTX60 series.
They're putting in the effort to hold the market. But they're certainly not aggressively competing, because who would they aggressively compete against?
ResponsibleJudge3172@reddit
But datacenter is ALSO on N4 so how does that work? The only N3 is the laptop APU they are launching
soggybiscuit93@reddit
I suppose, but Rubin is launching by Q3, and consumer replacement to 50 series is TBD.
Strazdas1@reddit
If Nvidia follows its usual schedule, it would be announced next year. So... its too early to dig any graves i think.
Strazdas1@reddit
Nvidia not using the latest node due to wafer size issues has been a thing for a very long time though.
StickiStickman@reddit
They literally haven't? It's been 1 years and 4 months since the RTX 5000 launch at January 2025.
For comparison, RTX 4000 launched October 2022.
soggybiscuit93@reddit
RTX 6000 is expected late 2027 / early 2028, so ~3 years post RTX50 series launch
StickiStickman@reddit
Yea, not that much longer than 4000 to 5000.
soggybiscuit93@reddit
Nvidia has maintained a 2 year cadence between gens for over 15 years. This extends the gap to a 3 year cadence.
If Nvidia maintained their typical cadence, RTX60 would be coming out in Q4 of this year or Q1 of 2027 the earliest.
Instead this gen is taking an additional year, not coming out to Q4 2027 / Q1 2028. That's a 50% increase in time between the two gens.
FlyingBishop@reddit
Making the cards at all is pretty aggressive when they could probably sell them for twice as much as datacenter cards if they wanted to.
a5ehren@reddit
10x, actually.
adelphepothia@reddit
i don't know how you can claim this. what is even the benchmark for putting in a ton of effort? because they're certainly putting in more effort than the competition. they've led the integration of various new techniques and they continue to do so. this may be r/hardware, but hardware isn't everything. and did i mention their hardware is still at the top? nvidia could put in even more effort than they are now, and people here would still say they aren't doing enough.
Different_Lab_813@reddit
Reddit has it's narative which spread even techtubers, creating massive echo chamber with no critical thought or curiosity to do simple analysis with publicly available data.
Devatator_@reddit
Ikr?
Eon-Knight9@reddit
I would bet that the Nvidia gaming team is just as large or larger than it has ever been. Nvidia is growing and hiring more people. But I would also bet that the very best on the gaming team are all now working on the datacenters team as there is more money for it.
ResponsibleJudge3172@reddit
At least that makes more sense.
Especially with the much faster cadence datacenter has vs the seeming slow down of consumer products cadence
zzzoom@reddit
Data center represents more than 90% of their revenue. Why would an investor care?
Kougar@reddit
Investors should care because this isn't a sustainable market. When the AI bubble implodes NVIDIA is going to have to come racing back to gamers and workstation users to make up the gap. AI will never go away at this point, but a market sustainable level of AI won't be anywhere remotely near to its size today, maybe enough to comprise a moderate part of a revenue pie.
Scary-Jaguar-9072@reddit
A person wouldn't buy Nvidia stock at its current valuation if they believed 90% of its revenue was at risk.
Kougar@reddit
Stock markets haven't reflected reality in a long time. The top 10% own over 90% of US stocks anyway, and it's been clearly demonstrated they don't live in the real world. In the unlikely event they did, then I'm sure people buying it probably are oblivious to the history. Which is that NVIDIA's gaming revenue was a majority of their profit pie less than five years ago, and the rest of it was workstation and servers. A rug pull on the AI market will have fun knock on effects too given NVIDIA has leveraged hundreds of billions into various AI companies, it's literal customers.
Scary-Jaguar-9072@reddit
I dunno man. I think if I'm trying to get investment advice I'd probably trust people who have been successful at making money in the past compared to random redditors. No doubt stocks crash and burn all the time, but I don't think saying "investors are stupid and out of touch" really is the best explanation.
Kougar@reddit
Assuming or pretending 90% of the stock market is just common random people is no less misleading.
Strazdas1@reddit
I think recent estimate was 99.5% of stock transactions are bots trading.
Scary-Jaguar-9072@reddit
Who ever said that?
Kougar@reddit
You did, it's directly implied it with your statement "A person wouldn't buy Nvidia stock at its current valuation if they believed 90% of its revenue was at risk." Most stocks & trades are not regular people, they're either corpos, algorithms, or 10%er's, therefore it's best to not assume a common person is applying normal thinking there.
996forever@reddit
Stock market has never meant to reflect anything but what people think/project.
HanseaticHamburglar@reddit
a person, maybe not. But people, people are dumb, panicy animals and they will absolutely throw good money after bad
nibuchan@reddit
Investors don't care. They just invest. If the AI bubble implodes, they gonna invest on something else. That's how it works
Snoo63@reddit
What happens if the bubble lasts long enough that domestic computers give up and surrender to the idea of cloud gaming?
Any_Mine_6368@reddit
When the bubble pops, you'll have much much much more serious things to worry about.
Are they going to let it pop is the question? It's only profitless because they're allowing it to exist for extremely cheap prices (at the cost of a Netflix subscription). The moment they all pull back and up the price to what it should be or restrict it to token usage only, AI will start generating money.
And they WILL do that, for sure. Hence why the top 15 models are all proprietary.
Kougar@reddit
Raising prices won't work until there's actual, real bona fide use cases. And sure there are some, but there doesn't appear to be nearly enough to allow it. Random CEOs and managers aren't going to keep buying subscriptions and throwing tokens at all their employees who pretend to use them when the prices go up, most of the revenue stream is just from people trying to figure out how to make use of AI. All the experimenters, the trial users, and the managers that don't see direct empirical returns are going to drop off when prices go up. People that subscribe to multiple models today will cut back and pick just the best one too. The sustainable market for AI is way smaller than any of those CEOs will admit.
Any_Mine_6368@reddit
I mean... As an engineer, I can tell you that IDEs like windsurf + unlimited tokens can make even the most average team deliver a product at half the time it would take a competent team. Time to market wins, you can save some money on juniors... Overall no way companies pull back on that investment.
CarretillaRoja@reddit
When the AI bubble implodes, investors will be long time out of NVDA
Kougar@reddit
Where will they be? Won't matter if they stay in the stock markets. AI popping is going to wreck all tech stocks, all semiconductor stocks, all the AI stocks... and AI companies are so heavily leveraged in debt that financial stocks will drop too. If the AI bubble pops badly enough all the surplus, idle datacenters are going to crater demand for new hardware below previous normal levels. There's all sorts of other knock on effects resulting from all of that that will swing back to hit general stock markets. The US is barely skirting above recession territory already, so a hard pop and multiple AI companies going bankrupt should be enough to drop the US into a proper extended recession too, which itself will hit stocks. All it will take is the bubble popping instead of deflating.
kwirky88@reddit
according to the steam hardware survey, nvidia's share of discrete gaming gpus is 89%. amd is 10.5% and intel is 0.5%.
zzzoom@reddit
That 89% market share could vanish overnight and it wouldn't make a dent in their total revenue. It doesn't matter to investors.
jott1293reddevil@reddit
That market share is still estimated to account for almost $7 billion. As an investor in Nvidia I absolutely care about a safe, reliable 8% of total revenue. However profit wise, I understand why Nvidia are making hay while the sun is shining and building data centre chips as fast as possible while they’re out in front of the market.
CheesyCaption@reddit
If they lose that revenue, they also lose the expense and then redirect that hardware to data centers.
The only reason they care about gaming gpus is because programmers can put an Nvidia gpu in their pics and use CUDA at home.
Gaming is a loss leader.
Zarmazarma@reddit
Gaming is not a loss leader... it was literally the majority of their profit until like 2022. Gaming cards are still high margin, even, just not as high margin as selling an $80,000 H100.
CheesyCaption@reddit
4 years ago things were different.
king_of_the_potato_p@reddit
They use the same wafers and they only get so many wafers.
One product printed nets significantly more money so there is lost revenue there.
king_of_the_potato_p@reddit
That 89% includes decade old gpus…
What gaming makes in a decade they clear in a few months on datacenters.
Vladraconis@reddit
It's 89% of gaming / professional consumers. That 89% is 10% out of nVidia's revenue.
An analogy : 1 is 100% of 1, but 1 is also 10% of 10. We are talking about 10.
akanosora@reddit
Doesn’t matter. Nvidia can have 100% of the gaming GPU market and they still can care less.
Prince_Uncharming@reddit
Couldn’t* care less.
RedofPaw@reddit
They could shut down their gaming GPU wing. So they could care less, but they still don't care a lot.
ElephantWithBlueEyes@reddit
Because their GPUs can do anything.
When AMDs 6000 series could only do gaming and pictures on par with Nvidia, Nvidia's 3000 and 4000 could do raytracing, 3D, videoediting, gamedev way better than AMD.
When 7000 series got out, it got better in raytrace and videoediting, but still suck in 3D and gamedev. And only with 9000 series AMD finally caught up.
Nvidia did everything (gaming, non-gaming) for at least last 6 years
TheOmegaFalcon@reddit
FSR Is opensource and can be used on ANYTHING. Same performance as dlss. Raytracing? That shit cant even run on Nvidia 5000 cards properly...waste of Energy Physix? Dead. CUDA? Meaningless
Skensis@reddit
Nvidia should just leave the consumer GPU business if they really don't care.
ResponsibleJudge3172@reddit
But they won't, otherwise why would they bother making Gsync ulsar, the new path tracing algorithm, the new AI graphics tech, etc in the last 6 months?
Obviously they don't care /s
__some__guy@reddit
Makes me wonder if I should get an overpriced RTX 5090 right now, before they are €4000+ and rising, with no new GPUs for a few years.
The_real_bandito@reddit
I don’t blame them but who will take up their mantle? AMD doesn’t make good video cards that are as good.
arby80@reddit
It is one thing to cater to data centers. It is another thing for Wong to publicly state that he does not care at all about the original customers who built his company. They are now hiding their gpu sales for personal computers and stating that everyone will purchase cloud computing power in the future.
Gambler_720@reddit
Why does it matter as long as Nvidia continues to provide great long term support for their GPUs and keeps trying to come up with new features?
arby80@reddit
Because they are just going to trickle out consumer grade GPUs at obsurd prices with little to know advances in their new GPUs as Wong has publicly stated he does not care about personal computing and expects everything to move to cloud computing. And they are shoveling out billions of GPUs to data centers that are years down the road. Once they actually need to install the GPUs they will be obsolete and want the newest model.
Westdrache@reddit
I kinda hope it's because if inverstors see how little gaming GPUs make in profit, they'd push to completly abandon them, so they hide the abysmall revenue to continue pushing out cards.
I genuinly think Nvidia wants to stay relevant in gaming because if you grow up with an Nvidia card you are more likely to choose them in the future for wherever your career path takes you.
Mind you I am not saying they ARE doing this I am saying I HOPE this is the reason
anor_wondo@reddit
Mostly yes. Investors are not forward thinking. At least not as much as the leadership in a company who hold the stock throughout the hype cycles
ComplexEntertainer13@reddit
And if they leave that market. That opens up an area where a CUDA competitor can get a foothold on the consumer side a lot more easiliy. Which down the line could develop into a real professional/server alternative as well.
To maintain CUDA dominance, they need the gaming market. If they lose consumer graphics compute, they are setting themselves up to risk being de-throned eventually.
anor_wondo@reddit
It looks like this clickbait bullshit is no longer working. People are finally tired of the fake outrage machine
Raintitan@reddit
It makes me wonder if DLSS would have progressed so fast if they needed to make more money on hardware in the gaming market.
exilus92@reddit
Every generation, we get better fps per dollar from nvidia. If developpers decide to use 19 extra layers of abstraction to make their job a bit easier and now the laucher alone requires 1gb of ram... that's the dev's faults.
Younger gamers really need to go watch game footage from the 2010 - 2018. you'll find games that looks 90% as good as a AAA 2026 game but it runs on 2gb vram and an 8 core core cpu.
Die4Ever@reddit
You mean an 8 THREAD CPU, or even just 4 threads in many cases lol
exilus92@reddit
the cpu I bought in 2015 had 8 cores.
But feel free to defend the ever increasing hardware requirements for games that don't look better.
I'm old, I have a good career, I don't care that much if I have to pay an extra 200$ on Ram and an extra 600$ on my gpu when I upgrade next year compared to what I paid for my last built in 2023. I can afford it easily for me and for my kids. But can you? And why the fuck are you wasting your time actively defending developer laziness? Why does a text chatting software requires more resources today than what was required to run Windows 7 plus Warcraft 3, a copy of AutoCAD in the background and a skype video call with 2 of your friend all at the same time in 2011?
king_of_the_potato_p@reddit
Is an incredibly false statement, you’ve been a lot less gen on gen and per dollar starting on the 40 series.
Plenty of charts are readily available out there. The fact that the new 70 used to match or beat last gen’s top tier and now only barely beats the same model tier is a huge decline.
The 3070 matched/beat the 2080ti, the 4070 didn’t beat the 3070ti, the 5070 is also lacking comparison and in some cases the 5060ti and 5060 actually LOSE to older 60 series depending on workload.
JonWood007@reddit
Fair. While 2026 games do look better than 2016 games were clearly at a point of diminishing returns and the system requirements we face aren't worth the visuals.
Beautiful_Ninja@reddit
I find it hilarious that people consistently think Nvidia has "given up" on gaming GPU's when they are the only ones even really bothering to make them anymore. AMD and Intel combine for 5% marketshare quarter in, quarter out yet somehow Nvidia is the one ignoring the market. You don't get to 95% marketshare without also making roughly 95% of the product available.
NeroClaudius199907@reddit
People want their Nvidia gpus cheaper.
Inevitable_Case_9931@reddit
A better product is a better product. Hence the price disparity and how they still even when priced higher sell more.
ChinoGambino@reddit
If Nvidia's quarterly earnings hold up all year then Geforce and prosumer segments will account for less than 1% of their business. At this point geforce is just a rounding error on their books. It surreal how much money is being thrown in the furnace for LLMs.
HiCZoK@reddit
obviously. FE cards are impossible to get. They've not stocked them for months. And 5070ti basically does not exist
FauxReal@reddit
They like money and there's more money in AI datacenters.
Exostenza@reddit
They also won't bother to fix long standing issues in their drivers while they continue to create more - I hate the driver/software situation for my 5090 so much. I can't wait for AMD to put out a halo card so I can jump ship back to solid drivers/software.
Nvidia doesn't care about gamers at all anymore and Jensen said they're no longer a gaming company. Gamers, in their corporate structure, are an afterthought of an afterthought at this point and it shows in every driver release.
bigbugzman@reddit
It’s only a matter of time before they abandon the consumer market. The staff, R&D and expenses could be used for the ultra profitable segment.
Psyclist80@reddit
Drop in the bucket currently...hopefully will come back in focus when AI boom tails off
jenny_905@reddit
Idiotic article given Nvidia are very much leading the market and show no signs of losing any share.
pesca_22@reddit
how many consumer gpu they would need to sell to get more money than selling a single rack vera rubin?
g2g079@reddit
If they broke it down, it would be easier to tell which ones are going to China.
UlteriorMotive66@reddit
In another news, the sky is blue!
Doredrin@reddit
It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever from a free market perspective that massive investment and revenue in commercial GPU production will not ultimately benefit the civilian GPU market. I understand that there could be all sorts of temporary disruptions to civilian markets etc, but ultimately in the grand scheme of things it should benefit the civilian sector. If in 10 or so years after all of this chaos has subsided somehow gaming GPUs are in a worse state then they were before the AI craze it will undoubtedly mean the free market has been heavily manipulated for political or social reasons. Gamers have been in the cross hairs of politicians since the 90s and it's totally feasible that backroom deals could be made regarding government related issues relating to AI infrastructure to screw over gamers. If that is the case they are making a grave mistake. Gaming is the little brother to the military ultimately and the last thing you want to do is piss off the military industrial complex. Political power grows from the barrel of a gun not a checkbook.
king_of_the_potato_p@reddit
Well, they also don’t want to report on or highlight a segment that’s in decline.
Appropriate_Name4520@reddit
Nvidia "doesent give a shit about gamers" yet they still do the most for them make it make sense.
lol_cat01@reddit
This Sub and GamersNexus non-stop NVDA bashing ? and now you want them to care ? LOL cry more. I hope NVDA gives you haters another price increase
hurtfulthingsourway@reddit
People acting like they cared before. They only thing they care about is $$$$$$$$$$$ maybe some of they people working for Nvidia cared but over all it's about $$$$$.
jaegren@reddit
Nvidia already has a monopoly on the gaming market. Why would they bother.
MrLyle@reddit
You know something, if Nvidia doesn't release another gaming GPU and we're stuck with the 50 series or 3 o 4 years with only software updates, I'm perfectly ok with that. In fact, I believe it'll be very healthy for the gaming industry.
noiserr@reddit
i bet game developers would actually start optimizing their games again.
NeroClaudius199907@reddit
Bad news teletubers are about to ragefarm this, good news people can finally stop attributing "care" for corporation when Money is #1 priority
siegevjorn@reddit
Why would they care? 5060 ti 16gb is less than $600. But rtx pro 5000 72gb is $10,000.
hackenclaw@reddit
rofl, if they really dont care, they wont even release RTX50 series.
They can keep selling RTX40 for another 2 years.
tastethecourage@reddit
RTX50 series released like 1.5 years ago didn’t they
hackenclaw@reddit
which proved my point nvidia still care about gaming.
If they REALLY dont care about Gaming, they can drag RTX40 series from 2022 till 2026.
soggybiscuit93@reddit
Your first comment makes it sound like you're saying Nvidia didn't release RTX50 series, so I fixed it for to clarify what you meant
Kevlar_socks@reddit
The current generation is the 50 series...