Need advice
Posted by Gabbybaker884@reddit | flying | View on Reddit | 8 comments
So I attended atp flight school when I was 18. Got my private,instrument,commercial and commercial multi all passed first try but when I went for the instructor cert I failed the oral twice and atp decided to kick me from the program. It’s now been 5 months since I finished. I’ve been taking a break because I’ve never experienced failure like that before in my life. Being told that I wasn’t trust worthy to be a pilot and getting dropped from the program was hard. But after some time alone I’ve learned a lot about my self and I am going to do what ever it takes to get my cfi. I’ve been told only having 2 failures on cfi arnt career ending but it’s easy to tell your self that it is. What are your guys opinions? Thanks
No_Diver_2133@reddit
Number one- Fuck ATP.
They do not set you up to become a good and knowledgable pilot, just to get through their program as fast as possible.
Two- No, you will be fine. You need to study hard and fill in the gaps ATP left.
Go get your CFI.
aftcg@reddit
Dude, you failed. It is a big deal, so get over it and get used to it. Its part of life. The faster you get over yourself the faster you're going to feel better.
You need to get your ass back into shape and prove them atp fukkers that you are a good pilot and their program failed you.
Quit yer bitchin and get to work!
Xerospeed360@reddit
That first big professional ‘failure’ hurts a lot, especially when a big part of your identity is tied to what you do. It sounds like you’re making a great choice to continue learning and growing. A lot of us have been there in one way or another and it’s not an easy thing to go through.
Find a good CFI that is sensitive to your bruised confidence and will help you through those weak spots.
It may be awkward, but insist on interviewing your individual CFI and make sure they’re a good fit for you. Find out if they’ve ever worked with someone in your shoes. Remember they’re going to be a partner with you in your comeback and you want someone invested in your success.
Best advice for the career:
learn how to tell the story. The best stories come from struggle and employers will be happy if you can explain what you learned along the way.
CaptMcMooney@reddit
adversity is the true teacher. my belief , a person that hasn't failed, is someone that's never really tried.
1.. do you, don't ask the internet about what's possible, I know there are people with 4+ fails who are captains at the legacies, i also know guys with 0 fails that will NEVER airline.
Complex-Brief69@reddit
I mean tbh get over it. Only thing worse than failing a checkride is giving up.
Go get your cert from another school but most importantly get back into it. You can’t take time off like that for something this benign.
2 checkride failures is not career ending at all. Perhaps it will slow you down, hiring is quite competitive but tbh if you didn’t take 5 months off you’d probably be instructing now with 200 hours dual given. That’s the real cost of taking time off like that.
helloworld204@reddit
Just more general advice as I’m just a student but significantly older than you.
1) get back in an airplane stay as proficient as possible, you don’t want to get into a death spiral of second guessing your skills
2) you’re young and have time to make up for “failures” maybe CFI isn’t right for you right now? Look into skydiving, power lines, survey work or Island hoping in the Bahamas, something else?
3) I’ve been around aviation my entire life, from ground work, parents being pilots friends with pilots, AF veteran, etc. failures are tough but use them as motivation to succeed not to stop yourself from all of your hard work.
Arkin3375@reddit
Learn from it, grow from it, own it, and move on
rFlyingTower@reddit
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So I attended atp flight school when I was 18. Got my private,instrument,commercial and commercial multi all passed first try but when I went for the instructor cert I failed the oral twice and atp decided to kick me from the program. It’s now been 5 months since I finished. I’ve been taking a break because I’ve never experienced failure like that before in my life. Being told that I wasn’t trust worthy to be a pilot and getting dropped from the program was hard. But after some time alone I’ve learned a lot about my self and I am going to do what ever it takes to get my cfi. I’ve been told only having 2 failures on cfi arnt career ending but it’s easy to tell your self that it is. What are your guys opinions? Thanks
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