There should be a showe where Americans go back to the countries they claim and see how they survive
Posted by avian_bi@reddit | CrazyIdeas | View on Reddit | 42 comments
Italian Americans in Italy, Irish Americans in Ireland, Germans and others!
They have to work, live and be around only those people of that country.
I think it’d be funny seeing a self described Irish American try to interact with Irish people, or even better an Italian American in Italy!!!
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Shmolti@reddit
"Survive" lmao
The2awareraven@reddit
i’d happily go live in Italy do you think europe is some terrible place lol, and the irish people literally already speak english so it should be easy for the irish americans, sounds like just a really nice vacation not an entertaining show
dilucofmondstat@reddit
considering my irish american brother lived in ireland for three years and it seemed pretty manageable to navigate when i visited i can’t imagine it’s that difficult
TwinkleTubs@reddit
I think it's amusing how annoyed people get by americans being proud of where their family line is from, yet will say your racist for not using "African american" as soon as you see a person with dark skin in america.
Vespasian79@reddit
Yeaaaaah it’s sorta odd. I personally do not like the Italian-American over the top annoying personality trait but people being proud of their heritage in general is cool. I’ll agree it’s dumb when people legitimately think they’re somehow from that country even thought it’s been generations but let people have some fun. (Except eyetalians cuz it annoys me personally lol. Love the sopranos but damn if it didn’t make some people quite annoying lol)
jimbobsqrpants@reddit
I don't understand
We don't mind people being proud of heritage, we dislike Americans telling us that they are in fact Irish or Scottish because their grandparents grandparents came from just outside moycullen.
I genuinely don't understand the African American element, who is being called racist and by whom?
AssistanceChemical63@reddit
Last night I had a dream I was in Sweden in an outdoor market trying to befriend a pear shaped reindeer and got warned by a local that it bites.
VinceP312@reddit
Oh no, I have to go back to my family in Italy who I've visited a bunch of times.
Please don't torture me. 🥱
Optimal_Duty7521@reddit
“oh no, I don’t have crippling medical debt!”
ruinrunner@reddit
Americans having to “survive” in Europe? Sounds like it would be a pretty boring show because it wouldn’t be that hard lol
cozyberryhoney@reddit
The culture shock would be the entertaining part
andthenifellasleep@reddit
How about whoever can last the longest without being identified gets a cash prize... Perhaps with a panel of cultural judges
Questo417@reddit
There would be virtually no scenario where someone wins a show like this. Part of “American culture” used to be immigrants forsaking their heritage. Parents would refuse to teach their native language to their kids. Most of everything about where they’ve come from has been lost. What has remained is a bastardization of tropes.
EggInMyLeggings@reddit
The other alternative was diaspora groups that formed their own culture influenced by their heritage and the reality of their situation, and then that became Irish-American or Italian-American culture.
And then over time those cultures diverged even further from the culture of wherever that diaspora group was originally from.
Italian American diaspora communities famously came to America and created a lot of beef heavy dishes that are culinarily influenced but distinct from traditional Italian dishes because beef was a lot cheaper and readily available in the US. Braciole is a great example of this.
The Feast of the Seven Fishes is another example of this. Originally inspired by the Catholic tradition of abstaining from meat around Christmas, it morphed into a culturally tradition where Italian Americans formed a traditional Christmas Eve dinner where they'd have seven courses of seafood.
Boomshank@reddit
Well said, and woefully unheard
snyderman3000@reddit
The post says nothing about not being identified. It’s talking about surviving. Obviously we would be identified immediately from our accents. Doesn’t mean we couldn’t survive. My ancestry is mostly English. I would imagine anyone who’s doing well in America would do well in England and vice versa. I’m not sure what the struggle would be. Oh no, I have to start calling my fries chips! That chicken sandwich is a chicken burger now??? Oh god, how can I survive!?
KennstduIngo@reddit
On my first trip to UK I had to move between terminals at Heathrow and didn't realize I needed to retain my ticket for exiting the train. Fortunately they let me through anyway, but I could have ended up in the Tower of London.
snyderman3000@reddit
Wow, that was a close one. Glad you made it out, brother 😆
earthhominid@reddit
A friend of mine literally just left to Italy to try and survive in the land of his ancestors. I sure hope he makes it without getting too tan or too well fed
NotAllOwled@reddit
I saw a cultural documentary on this called The White Lotus. I believe the Italian-Americans involved had something of a mixed experience, especially the one who looked like salt-and-pepper Christopher Moltisanti.
richrich07@reddit
Oh no, free money to … live in Europe? How will I deal with the racism of people trying to be nice to me?
AsainGlockgirl99@reddit
I think people are just talking about ethnicity when they say this and I don't have a problem with people saying it. Also if we're talking Europeans specifically it probably wouldn't be that interesting, most places in Europe are similar enough to America that they would have no issue surviving there.
jahathebrn@reddit
Well we'd be safe in England at least
Practical-Ordinary-6@reddit
I think that would be interesting also but not maybe for the reason you do.
Your statement makes clear you don't understand the usage of Irish-American in the US. There's nothing so called about it. It's part of our history and our culture has developed on a different continent. It's not too surprising that you're clueless about it since you don't have that historical experience.
AltForObvious1177@reddit
You mean the show would just be Americans going on vacation?
mstivland2@reddit
Norway has that!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt_for_Norge
Fight_those_bastards@reddit
I volunteer as tribute!
Pick from either Germany, France, England, Ireland, or Italy, I’ve got ancestors from all of them.
It’ll be a struggle for sure, but I think I could manage.
Icelock@reddit
Don't threaten me with a good time
Arcamorge@reddit
My mom is so incredibly excited to visit Hastings England because she is distantly related to one of the people who came over with William the conqueror.... I hope she has a nice trip regardless
I think any random white person has the same level of relation
helikophis@reddit
My mother's family is ethnically Irish and I did live in Ireland. It was great. No issues at all. What makes you think Irish Americans would find it difficult to interact with Irish people? I've been all over Western Europe and Ireland was by far the most similar to the USA. Very car-centric, heavy drinking culture, lots of sports bars.
3Duder@reddit
The only awkward moment I had was my first night at a restaurant and I asked the waitress what the "egg mayonnaise" was.
burns_before_reading@reddit
So you want African Americans to go back to Africa? Or are you only considering the white people to be American?
andthenifellasleep@reddit
So I think the hook of the TV show would be a "fish-out-of-water comedy". Whereby people who claim a heritage from a place, but have no cultural connection besides slightly racist stereotypes, are challenged to assimilate with their supposed culture.
Whilst many black people claim ties to the African diaspora - there is often a deep trauma of "stolen heritage", as people can't always say exactly where their ancestors come from. It would be insensitive to make a comic show about this lack of cultural tie. Moreover, whilst the black community has been downtrodden in the states for so long, their pan African identity is often a stronger or equal bond in comparison to white Americans. So again to saterise this would be of poor taste.
Here the target of the humour is focused on people who "cosplay" as Irish/Italian/German etc whilst making little effort to understand the cultures they are affecting.
Sufficient-Job7098@reddit
Europeans think that a children or grandchild of Turkish immigrants born in Germany are Turks and not German.
Europeans think that Roma people living in Croatia are fundamentally different from Croats even though Roma first moved to Europe 1500 ago.
But for some reason Europeans also believe that children or grandchildren of German or Irish immigrants became plain Americans.
TCFNationalBank@reddit
Bro invented vacation
andthenifellasleep@reddit
I wonder how many people from the US would not appreciate the satire intended by this...
(Preemptively braces for downvotes)
Wurm42@reddit
I'm from the US, and I think it could be a fun show!
andthenifellasleep@reddit
Honestly, it's a fun TV pitch for any nationality.
I'd love to see some UK celebrities go on a foreign exchange programme
Tomj_Oad@reddit
You mean deportation to home countries for white ppl?
Make sure they don't have citizenship where they're going just to up the fun!
Quitcha_Bitchin@reddit
They do it every day go back to their homelands or the places their ancestors came from. No different then an irishman going to Chicago.
I do not know what you imagine would happen, language barriers aside and with todays tech that's not a problem we are all basically the same.