Should I learn Roblox Game Development Or Start Ethical Hacking as a 16 year old?
Posted by SurpriseEarly1838@reddit | learnprogramming | View on Reddit | 19 comments
So I wanna start learning skills which would help me In my future but am stuck wether to go with roblox game development or Hacking, both are of my interest So anyone , opinions would be appreciated <3
mredding@reddit
Some brief history about myself - I have a BS in Game Design and Development, I've worked in game development, cluster computing, trading systems, web services, cloud platforms, databases, and now robotics. I've been at this personally and professionally for 37 years. Also, my brother is a world leading security expert.
You're 16, you're in high school. HIT THE MATHS. You don't even know it, but nothing is more important to you right now. The most common, boring, uninteresting, lowest paying labors in this industry are presentation and business logic. Slightly more interesting is infrastructure because you're dealing with big-data structural issues and throughput.
The better you are at math, the higher level in the industry you're going to gain access. Our leading problems today are all going to be modeled in linear algebra and calculus. You can either do it - or you can't, and that will relegate you forever to the lower tiers.
This will make you a high value engineer, +$200k. You'll also want to pick up some stats. If you learn finance, you can become a quant, and they make $200k-$1m, but you'll be dedicating yourself to the finance industry - the people and the cocaine drives me fucking crazy, so I have a love/hate relationship with it, love the money, and the tech, and finance is fascinating, but I hate the rest.
You can pursue game development, if you want - don't go to school for it. I did, but that was 25 years ago, the industry was different then. There were only TWO schools that offered degrees, and that carried clout. Now every university offers a game-dev program, and I've been on a few of those review panels, they suck.
Instead, get a traditional comp-sci degree, a 4 year BS at least. A masters would be wise, it'll pay for itself faster. Seriously consider applying to top tier schools like Cal Tech, Standford, Berkeley, UofI, MIT, Georgia Tech, Carnegie Mellon, Yale... Let them tell you no, don't decide on their behalf. You might be surprised - some of those in that list are more accessible to you than you realize; I leave that for you to figure out. Taking yourself seriously, dedicating yourself to your work, and fostering good relationships with influential people who can write a letter of recommendation goes a long-ass way.
You go to college not to learn a trade - it's not a vocational school. You go there to learn how to learn. The programming classes are the least important. You need to learn the fundamentals, the maths, the abstracts. I don't care what language you program in, that's an implementation detail. What I need is for you to understand the problem and think through a solution. I need you to write it down and communicate it. None of this figuring it out as you go bullshit.
Regardless, this is what the game industry looks for - good fundamentals. It's worth having, because if you want game-dev, you need a plan for AFTER game-dev. Very few stay in the industry for long. Eventually you realize the only people who care you're a game developer are middle-school boys, and only if you work on games they like. If you ever want a girlfriend - not while you're in the industry; the time you allocate to games is time you're not allocating to her.
Now about hacking and security... The best in the industry are people you'll never hear of. They don't talk, they listen. Hacking and security is a glamour job - so the industry is saturated with rockstars and egotists, trying to make a name for themselves. That's how you know they're seen as amateurs by the industry.
Penetration testing sounds fun, but has very limited industry value and doesn't actually get much use.
Let me just say it like this - disrupting foreign adversaries and cyber criminals gets a bounty put on your head, and the heads of all your known friends and family, just to get to you. What's $10k to get someone to put a pipe bomb under your car? My brother is retired now (not because he's old), but can never fly on a plane with family or colleagues.
And that's why everyone you've ever heard of is fucking bullshit. A lot of people shunt out of the industry the instant the threats come in, and if you're making yourself publicly known for what you've done to these hostile agents, they and their partners will get to you all the faster.
Not that these people don't have skills, but that it's a hobby, not a serious occupation.
The 9-5 boring (I mean that jokingly) security job is consulting, hardening, and analysis. More passive things - how not to get hacked, how you got hacked... Help corporate enterprises shore up their infrastructure, and people don't necessarily try to murder you for it.
SurpriseEarly1838@reddit (OP)
I just Think That learning Roblox Game development would help me build My problem solving skills and likewise In a Much enjoyable way rather than staring java and likewise on the screen As of Now while being a Noobie.
runicnet@reddit
Ethical hacking is the right age group I think you aged out of Roblox game dev
SurpriseEarly1838@reddit (OP)
im learning roblox game development to develop my interest In Programming things tho
Important_Coffee_845@reddit
Roblox game developement. Cuz ur 16 my friend. I cant stress that enough.
Its not 2004. You dont need to be having done this since you were a kid to understand it now cuz people are openly teaching this stuff. I think roblox will be a better way to learn for you. And youll have WAY more fun.
U have no idea who you are yet. You might think ethical hacking sounds cool but in 5 years you might be in culinary school. Or maybe youll be married with two kids. Idk man, but the chances youll still be deep into ethical hacking cuz u picked it up today are slim. You wont even be playing the same games, hopefully wont be dressing the same, and probably will have a different taste in music too.
Everyone is telling you to prepare for college and for adult life. Im gonna tell you to enjoy being a kid a little bit.
If you cant get the hacking stuff outta ur head and u do end up becoming an ethical hacker in five years, thats cool man. But I think my point will still stand.
SurpriseEarly1838@reddit (OP)
Ye u are right
bird_feeder_bird@reddit
Explore whatever you’re most curious about
SurpriseEarly1838@reddit (OP)
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viks98@reddit
agreed, you have lot of time just choose anything and go with it
lawful_manifesto@reddit
both are cool but roblox dev might give you more transferable skills for actual programming jobs later. lua is pretty easy to pick up and you learn game logic + scripting fundamentals that work in other engines too
ethical hacking is fascinating but usually requires solid programming foundation first anyway so maybe start with the game dev and see where it takes you
SurpriseEarly1838@reddit (OP)
Yes cuz chatgpt also told me that Foundation for programming is a must before U start ethical hacking
simonbleu@reddit
*inhales*
Key_Use_8361@reddit
honestly depends on what keeps you motivated longer a friend of mine learned programming through Roblox first because seeing immediate results kept him consistent web dev has broader career paths, but motivation matters way more early on
jcveloso8@reddit
Roblox dev is a more forgiving place to start. You'll see results faster and actually build a portfolio you can show people. Hacking is cool but requires deeper knowledge first. You can always learn security later once you understand how code breaks.
GreatMinds1234@reddit
Ethical hacking. You'll learn a lot more about everything at once and will have a lot more understanding about how different parts of the same system interact. Not to mention security which is important to know before you'll start some serious coding. Good luck to you and #updateme, please let me know how things are going.
Leather_Flan5071@reddit
Roblox Game development seems much better now. I don't know if you have the resources necessary to do Ethical Hacking; I didn't enter it when I wanted to because I didn't have the right stuff so I just stucked to scripting and back-end development
recursion_is_love@reddit
The real hacking require lot of background knowledge. It not simple as using tool as you saw in most video.
You need to start now. What ever path you take. Pick one and invest your time with it seriously.
NeoLogic_Dev@reddit
I would go to ethical hacking because this field is huge and changes fast
flag_ua@reddit
I mean, I'm not exactly sure how profitable "Roblox Game Development" will be for stable employment.
"Ethical Hacking" is really broad and not typically an entry level role. Both things will teach you skills to get some kind of job, but honestly there's not really a better option.