The Ram Rumble Bee Could Shed 300 Pounds If People Actually Bought Single-Cab Trucks
Posted by Least_Confidence_225@reddit | cars | View on Reddit | 77 comments
IWantToPlayGame@reddit
Yeah but nobody* wants single cab trucks.
Snack_Powered_Human@reddit
In the UK and EU single cabs are a lot more tax friendly for businesses.
cerberaspeedtwelve@reddit
I remember hearing something about this. Apparently, the UK government ruled that dual cab pickup trucks are too car-like to be considered commercial vehicles. They are now classified and taxed in the same way as luxury SUVs.
scrappybasket@reddit
Yeah if the prices were way better in the us then they’d be popular
yoscotti32@reddit
Idk, the single cab f150 is pretty sought after currently
Lunatack47@reddit
Yeah it took me 8 months to find my 5.0 4x4 reg cab
Vague_Disclosure@reddit
Current models or OBS?
geko29@reddit
Current models. Buying and supercharging the standard cab/short bed became so popular that Ford increased the price of 4WD...on that configuration ONLY, to capitalize on the "DIY Lightning" trend.
Deidris@reddit
and they're sick as hell, wish they would brand a "lightning" instead of the EV one
leeps22@reddit
I went with ford because they were the only ones doing a regular cab long bed 1/2 ton with better than work truck trim. I guess my next truck is gonna be a 3/4 ton
LeroyToThe@reddit
Single cab short bed f150 fucks
errie_tholluxe@reddit
There are a fuckton of contractors that would buy them.
Crew cab trucks are for people who want a bed, but use the back seat for everything that should go there.
Euler007@reddit
If this was true they would be produced. They have the sales figures from the past. Even solo guys would rather have the option of sitting people in the back even is it's seldom.
errie_tholluxe@reddit
I feel it's more along the road of SUVs - they decided, marketing pushed it, now it's the new normal..
Euler007@reddit
More like they designed them and sold a lot of them. And then stopped selling what wasn't selling them. Just like estates, sedans, and small sports cars.
errie_tholluxe@reddit
Yeah, marketing will influence people like that. That's kind of the whole fucking point of marketing. It was mainly used to get around Cafe standards. And all the people downvoting me can suck it
Justame13@reddit
Or people stopped riding in the bed so they need the extra seats now.
Otherwise_Rub_4557@reddit
It's not just sitting people in the back. A lot of contractors and workers rear seats are stuffed with power tools. The extra lockable interior space is valuable. Also being able to recline the drivers seat is nice
purz@reddit
Single cab trucks also ride like absolute shit. I run a contracting business and avoid them when I can so dunno what that dude is talking about lol
Slimy_Shart_Socket@reddit
I may as well buy a Mustang, Camaro, Challenger then.
Deidris@reddit
My single cab F150 is a mustang with a 6.5" bed, I love it
RunnerLuke357@reddit
looks at my truck in the yard Nobody, yup nobody at all wants a single cab.
Shomegrown@reddit
Not entirely true. CAFE standards killed the single cab/short beds. Although the current administration has rolled that back, you can't justify engineering/testing/certifying a new single cab body for a low volume niche performance truck. The business case for this relies on using what's already out there for cost reasons, and that's not a single cab.
Lower_Kick268@reddit
Yeah and it would sell way less units and be 300% more of a pain in the ass to use as a daily
RunnerLuke357@reddit
I daily a single cab, I've yet to find where that has been a problem other than carrying passengers (which is NOT and everyday for lots of people). People carry too much shit with them on the regular. I can fit a decent bit behind the seat and if I need to carry more there is a bed for that.
Lower_Kick268@reddit
Which is exactly why it sucks, you have to rent a car to carry more than 3 people, that's a pain in the ass. Or you have to put a locking box on the bed because the cab doesn't have much room
TROGDOR_X69@reddit
nope. feature. im never called apon to drive
DetroitLionsEh@reddit
I hate the single cab for the ride quality.
bobmclightning@reddit
Not being able to carry passengers is a huge problem though, that's like one of the main uses of an automobile. I would struggle to justify buying a truck that can't carry more passengers than my motorcycle.
bw4064@reddit
Ten years ago I worked at a CDJR dealership in central PA as a salesperson. We sold lots of Jeeps and Rams. Very few cars.
We were a small store with a sales staff of five or six that usually sold around fifty new and used cars a month.
I have heard the conversation repeated over and over from customers that we should stock regular cab trucks and if we did someone would buy them.
So for at least two years my sales manager would order one or two regular cab trucks just to have for stock. They were only available in lower or mid level trims. Most of the time we would order them with the 5.7 Hemi. Although I remember at least one we got with the 3.6.
It turned out to be a total waste of space on the floor plan. The trucks would sit on the lot for darn near a year. They all either got dealer traded away or sent over to our sister store and eventually moved to the used side.
Bear in mind this was ten years ago when incentives were good and interest rates were low. There is a loud vocal minority that screams up and down they want regular cab trucks but in reality they can’t or won’t buy them new.
During this time you could walk into the dealer and order a Ram 1500 in regular, quad, or crew cab and it would show up about three months later. In three years I saw exactly ONE person order a regular cab truck.
We were really open about giving people the option to order too. We took deposits and ordered tons of Jeeps and Rams to get customers the exact vehicle they wanted.
In spite of what people say the demand for new regular cabs just isn’t that strong.
Drzhivago138@reddit
OK, and? That's 300 lbs. on a truck that has a base weight of over 4800.
JJJBLKRose@reddit
Because they have engineers who can get that information? Hell, they likely did the design work on it and decided it wasn't worth it.
foytizzle@reddit
If I remember correctly, they were planning a single cab version for this generation back in 2018 but it got cancelled
Drzhivago138@reddit
How do you "get that information" if there's no regular cab to benchmark?
JJJBLKRose@reddit
That's literally what engineers do. Do you think they just guess all the time? They design things down to the gram of weight, calculating the amount of material needed and then using the weight of the material to simulate the total weight. This isn't even new with modern software either.
Master-CylinderPants@reddit
The material for the extra interior weighs x and the frame/body is y. If only there was some sort of high school level math that could tell us what x + y is.
JMccovery@reddit
Simulation from a previous regular cab model, or the HD cab?
IsTheShibaInU@reddit
Do you think that the first time they know the weight of the vehicle is when it rolls off the assembly line?
desf15@reddit
From simulation I guess. They know how it should be made, and from which materials so it's not like it some kind of rocket science to get approximate number.
Substantial_Heat_550@reddit
Huh… Today I learned that dodge discontinued the single cab.
Clover-kun@reddit
Not even fleets want single cabs, can shove more dudes in a crew cab
Shienvien@reddit
What we (specific we here) really want is the length of the longest pickup with single cab. Extra extra long bed.
A pickup shouldn't only fit a third of the stuff a van does, but with more rainwater and often more securing work.
Beneficial-Focus3702@reddit
Also it’s nice to be able to lock stuff up in the cab.
Drzhivago138@reddit
Dodge always had a single cab. Ram still has it in the HD models (as do Ford and GM), and you can even get it above base trim, though the take rate outside of commercial fleets is pretty low.
Antique-Dragonfly615@reddit
Good luck finding them
IAmWellBehaved@reddit
Yeah, but regular cab trucks are wildly impractical and compromised at anticipated Rumble Bee prices. You can objectively seat more people in current pony/muscle cars, all while not having the handling of a car. They're fun for enthusiasts online but just as many mock "coupe SUVs", regular cab performance trucks similarly take on a lot of the disadvantages all the way around. Same reason they didn't make these RWD.
Conversely, I wouldn't be shocked if they added the crew cab configuration in the future, should sales and demand be there.
PurpleSausage77@reddit
5.0L Coyote 10spd reg cab short box F150 4x4 weigh 4400lbs.
Those trucks move out, “Mexican GTR” they’ve been nicknamed, and I’d rather have one of those with a blower on it over any of these Rams.
Deidris@reddit
Loving mine, can't wait for my whipple
walmarttshirt@reddit
I could lose about 90lbs if I didn’t need legs.
jiggajawn@reddit
There was a wrestler that was missing a leg that DOMINATED because he wrestled at a much lower weight class compared to similar sized dudes with two legs.
Facts_pls@reddit
Surely the handicap of one less leg was more than the weight advantage...
AntalRyder@reddit
Cheater
EWPsies@reddit
"And if my grandmother had wheels, she'd have been a bike!"
KSAWill@reddit
And if my grandmother had wheels she would be a bicycle
Lilmumblecrapper@reddit
Yah me too, 90.1 if they took the twig and berries.
Beneficial-Focus3702@reddit
I wish single cab trucks were more common tbh.
Possibility-of-wet@reddit
I would if they sold single cabs anywhere lol
Petrol_Head72@reddit
What a dumb title. Have you seen how many Mexican GT-Rs exist?
MakesYourMise@reddit
the people this matters to were never going to buy this
East-Independent6778@reddit
New trucks are so cartoonishly big that single cabs don’t look good anymore. The proportions are just off.
CaptainGo@reddit
Behold the glory of the single cab Tundra's massive door
MakesYourMise@reddit
she kinda cute tho
kstetter@reddit
El Caminos will always look better
OllieFromCairo@reddit
The pick up car is underrated.
yoscotti32@reddit
Id agree about the single cab Chevy, but I think the single cab f150 looks pretty great, personally
Drzhivago138@reddit
The "hastily shortened" version they presented is also longer than what a real DT single cab would be. The way it's laid out there, it would have even longer doors than the 2nd gen Tundra. And you can see where the seats are in that one.
pichufur@reddit
Just make it a flat bed too!
Heavy_Gap_5047@reddit
I could shed 300lbs if I dumped your mom.
dirtydriver58@reddit
Lol
Ok_Two_2604@reddit
Will they actually sell it that way? Even if it’s technically available, will you be able to find one? I spent a year looking for an extended cab Ranger lariat and just gave up.
Nervous_Olive_5754@reddit
It's only 300lbs different? No point in having two versions.
Deathlands1@reddit
You mean if dealers ever had them on the lot….
Land_of_Kirk_@reddit
Or were willing to order them
Drzhivago138@reddit
Or if the factory even made them. The HD models still have a regular cab, but they're still on the old body from 2009. This gen 1500 debuted about 8 years ago with no regular cab, and none has since been added.
KingMario05@reddit
So do it, and bee the first.
You won't, huh? Cowards.
DaftPancake@reddit
If my grandmother had wheels she’d be a bike.
ikilledtupac@reddit
Ok