The Ram Rumble Bee Could Shed 300 Pounds If People Actually Bought Single-Cab Trucks

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IWantToPlayGame@reddit

Yeah but nobody* wants single cab trucks.

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Snack_Powered_Human@reddit

In the UK and EU single cabs are a lot more tax friendly for businesses.

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I remember hearing something about this. Apparently, the UK government ruled that dual cab pickup trucks are too car-like to be considered commercial vehicles. They are now classified and taxed in the same way as luxury SUVs.

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scrappybasket@reddit

Yeah if the prices were way better in the us then they’d be popular

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yoscotti32@reddit

Idk, the single cab f150 is pretty sought after currently

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Lunatack47@reddit

Yeah it took me 8 months to find my 5.0 4x4 reg cab

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Vague_Disclosure@reddit

Current models or OBS?

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geko29@reddit

Current models. Buying and supercharging the standard cab/short bed became so popular that Ford increased the price of 4WD...on that configuration ONLY, to capitalize on the "DIY Lightning" trend.

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Deidris@reddit

and they're sick as hell, wish they would brand a "lightning" instead of the EV one

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leeps22@reddit

I went with ford because they were the only ones doing a regular cab long bed 1/2 ton with better than work truck trim. I guess my next truck is gonna be a 3/4 ton

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LeroyToThe@reddit

Single cab short bed f150 fucks

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errie_tholluxe@reddit

There are a fuckton of contractors that would buy them.

Crew cab trucks are for people who want a bed, but use the back seat for everything that should go there.

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Euler007@reddit

If this was true they would be produced. They have the sales figures from the past. Even solo guys would rather have the option of sitting people in the back even is it's seldom.

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errie_tholluxe@reddit

I feel it's more along the road of SUVs - they decided, marketing pushed it, now it's the new normal..

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Euler007@reddit

More like they designed them and sold a lot of them. And then stopped selling what wasn't selling them. Just like estates, sedans, and small sports cars.

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errie_tholluxe@reddit

Yeah, marketing will influence people like that. That's kind of the whole fucking point of marketing. It was mainly used to get around Cafe standards. And all the people downvoting me can suck it

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Justame13@reddit

Or people stopped riding in the bed so they need the extra seats now.

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Otherwise_Rub_4557@reddit

It's not just sitting people in the back. A lot of contractors and workers rear seats are stuffed with power tools. The extra lockable interior space is valuable. Also being able to recline the drivers seat is nice

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purz@reddit

Single cab trucks also ride like absolute shit. I run a contracting business and avoid them when I can so dunno what that dude is talking about lol

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Slimy_Shart_Socket@reddit

I may as well buy a Mustang, Camaro, Challenger then.

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Deidris@reddit

My single cab F150 is a mustang with a 6.5" bed, I love it

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RunnerLuke357@reddit

looks at my truck in the yard Nobody, yup nobody at all wants a single cab.

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Shomegrown@reddit

Not entirely true. CAFE standards killed the single cab/short beds. Although the current administration has rolled that back, you can't justify engineering/testing/certifying a new single cab body for a low volume niche performance truck. The business case for this relies on using what's already out there for cost reasons, and that's not a single cab.

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Lower_Kick268@reddit

Yeah and it would sell way less units and be 300% more of a pain in the ass to use as a daily

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RunnerLuke357@reddit

I daily a single cab, I've yet to find where that has been a problem other than carrying passengers (which is NOT and everyday for lots of people). People carry too much shit with them on the regular. I can fit a decent bit behind the seat and if I need to carry more there is a bed for that.

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Lower_Kick268@reddit

Which is exactly why it sucks, you have to rent a car to carry more than 3 people, that's a pain in the ass. Or you have to put a locking box on the bed because the cab doesn't have much room

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TROGDOR_X69@reddit

nope. feature. im never called apon to drive

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DetroitLionsEh@reddit

I hate the single cab for the ride quality.

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bobmclightning@reddit

Not being able to carry passengers is a huge problem though, that's like one of the main uses of an automobile. I would struggle to justify buying a truck that can't carry more passengers than my motorcycle.

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bw4064@reddit

Ten years ago I worked at a CDJR dealership in central PA as a salesperson. We sold lots of Jeeps and Rams. Very few cars.

We were a small store with a sales staff of five or six that usually sold around fifty new and used cars a month.

I have heard the conversation repeated over and over from customers that we should stock regular cab trucks and if we did someone would buy them.

So for at least two years my sales manager would order one or two regular cab trucks just to have for stock. They were only available in lower or mid level trims. Most of the time we would order them with the 5.7 Hemi. Although I remember at least one we got with the 3.6.

It turned out to be a total waste of space on the floor plan. The trucks would sit on the lot for darn near a year. They all either got dealer traded away or sent over to our sister store and eventually moved to the used side.

Bear in mind this was ten years ago when incentives were good and interest rates were low. There is a loud vocal minority that screams up and down they want regular cab trucks but in reality they can’t or won’t buy them new.

During this time you could walk into the dealer and order a Ram 1500 in regular, quad, or crew cab and it would show up about three months later. In three years I saw exactly ONE person order a regular cab truck.

We were really open about giving people the option to order too. We took deposits and ordered tons of Jeeps and Rams to get customers the exact vehicle they wanted.

In spite of what people say the demand for new regular cabs just isn’t that strong.

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Drzhivago138@reddit

OK, and? That's 300 lbs. on a truck that has a base weight of over 4800.

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JJJBLKRose@reddit

Because they have engineers who can get that information? Hell, they likely did the design work on it and decided it wasn't worth it.

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foytizzle@reddit

If I remember correctly, they were planning a single cab version for this generation back in 2018 but it got cancelled

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Drzhivago138@reddit

Because they have engineers who can get that information?

How do you "get that information" if there's no regular cab to benchmark?

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JJJBLKRose@reddit

That's literally what engineers do. Do you think they just guess all the time? They design things down to the gram of weight, calculating the amount of material needed and then using the weight of the material to simulate the total weight. This isn't even new with modern software either.

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Master-CylinderPants@reddit

The material for the extra interior weighs x and the frame/body is y. If only there was some sort of high school level math that could tell us what x + y is.

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JMccovery@reddit

Simulation from a previous regular cab model, or the HD cab?

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IsTheShibaInU@reddit

Do you think that the first time they know the weight of the vehicle is when it rolls off the assembly line?

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desf15@reddit

From simulation I guess. They know how it should be made, and from which materials so it's not like it some kind of rocket science to get approximate number.

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Substantial_Heat_550@reddit

Huh… Today I learned that dodge discontinued the single cab.

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Clover-kun@reddit

Not even fleets want single cabs, can shove more dudes in a crew cab

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Shienvien@reddit

What we (specific we here) really want is the length of the longest pickup with single cab. Extra extra long bed.

A pickup shouldn't only fit a third of the stuff a van does, but with more rainwater and often more securing work.

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Beneficial-Focus3702@reddit

Also it’s nice to be able to lock stuff up in the cab.

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Drzhivago138@reddit

Dodge always had a single cab. Ram still has it in the HD models (as do Ford and GM), and you can even get it above base trim, though the take rate outside of commercial fleets is pretty low.

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Antique-Dragonfly615@reddit

Good luck finding them

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IAmWellBehaved@reddit

Yeah, but regular cab trucks are wildly impractical and compromised at anticipated Rumble Bee prices. You can objectively seat more people in current pony/muscle cars, all while not having the handling of a car. They're fun for enthusiasts online but just as many mock "coupe SUVs", regular cab performance trucks similarly take on a lot of the disadvantages all the way around. Same reason they didn't make these RWD.

Conversely, I wouldn't be shocked if they added the crew cab configuration in the future, should sales and demand be there.

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PurpleSausage77@reddit

5.0L Coyote 10spd reg cab short box F150 4x4 weigh 4400lbs.

Those trucks move out, “Mexican GTR” they’ve been nicknamed, and I’d rather have one of those with a blower on it over any of these Rams.

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DaftPancake@reddit

If my grandmother had wheels she’d be a bike.

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ikilledtupac@reddit

Ok