vMware Vsphere alternatives (moving away)
Posted by buturi1@reddit | sysadmin | View on Reddit | 13 comments
Hello guys
We have been considering moving away from vMware vSphere due to politics of Broadcom and their huge prices (probably they don't give a sh** anymore about small/medium companies). At this moment we have 4 clusters, three clusters are running on vsphere 7 (EOF) and one cluster is running on vsphere 8 (license until 2027 October.)
Cluster which runs on vsphere 8 have 256 cores and other three cluster which is running on vsphere 7 (EOF) have almost 256 cores (bunch of BL460 G9-G10). Active License cluster with vsphere 8 is running with Enterprise VVF (so as i read on reddit in near future or maybe even now broadcom is considering removing VVF entirely and pushing customers to more expensive VCF), we don't use much features of vMware vSphere under VVF and VCF probably is going to be overkill for us as with features and prices as well.
So in near future we are going to add two additional hosts to a cluster where vsphere 8 runs, existing 256 cores + maybe 128 cores (can not tell exactly) so probably licensing only that cluster (not talking to other three clusters) going to be a huge price bump...
Few weeks ago HP approached us and introduced their virtualization platform (HPE VM Essentials/Morpheus)
I started to build a small lab with three nodes to create a cluster, at this moment everything is good, i have not migrated any virtual machines and staff like that, just roaming around it to understand how it works and staff like that.
So did anyone tested HPE VM essentials in their production? Worth moving to it? Our virtual machines are productive, many of them are very important for business (from financial perspective) they are getting money for business...:))
So is it worth it?
malikto44@reddit
I wish Microsoft would put some TLC into Hyper-V and get a decent enterprise control plane going (no, SCVMM isn't it).
For a MS shop, going to Hyper-V makes sense, especially with licenses. To handle funky hardware, using StarWinds vSAN can also help, as you can use hardware RAID as hardware RAID and have the fast RAM caching enabled.
For a general shop, I'd look at Proxmox. It is getting there, and sooner or later, will have a decent enterprise control plane. The pain point is backend storage, but Proxmox has a number of ways to deal with this... and if worse comes to worst, go with NFS.
Miserable_Pear_6940@reddit
Nutanix!
We've moved to Nutanix and couldn't be happier.
Ontological_Gap@reddit
Lol, and you think you're going to saving money come renewal?
RiceeeChrispies@reddit
out of the frying pan and into the fire springs to mind
Miserable_Pear_6940@reddit
What makes you say that?
Ultron_Magnus@reddit
They've started jacking up prices after getting a bunch of VMware customers.
Have fun on your next renewal!
Ontological_Gap@reddit
Openshift virtualization engine is where it's at.
WorldsWorstSysadmin@reddit
I have been running heavy loads on Proxmox for years. We moved VMWare -> Citrix -> Proxmox, and have been perfectly happy with Proxmox.
With that said, if you're running a heavy Windows workload, you might just go to Hyper-V because Windows licensing on Proxmox isn't amazing.
WoTpro@reddit
I have 3 hosts running vSphere with VMware essentials plus licesning, i was offered 3 years of VVF with 48 cores for 8000 euros pr year, i am kinda tempted to pay it to just stay on for another 3 years and then migrate of if their direction has not changed toward small shopps
Library_IT_guy@reddit
For very small environments like mine, Hyper-V is actually fine. For a bit larger environment like yours, probably want Proxmox.
Intellivindi@reddit
have you looked at Cloudstack or Openstack?
hughgwayne@reddit
Not used HP but I'll share our situation: we have 6 nodes, 3 clusters of 2. a total of 152 cores and running perpetual vmware lic. We are about to move to hyper-v b/c its licensing is included in our data center renewal.
shimoheihei2@reddit
I've only seen people move to Proxmox or just move to the cloud personally, and I know Proxmox in particular works really well with the migration tools it has.